There's some states on here bloody hell! You'd have thought we'd have sold De Bruyne and Haaland.
I really hate comments like this.
The concern is obviously not about offloading the likes of Kirk and Lavelle on loan. It’s about the Machiavellian transfer manoeuvring.
This is not Robert Lee joining Newcastle when we’re in second spot in the league.
This is leaving us up shit creek without a paddle in the Third Division. The longer we accept this the more it’ll happen.
A threadbare squad plugged with journeymen on short term deals and loans. We’re better than that, or we should be.
If you think on top of that selling a player with a modicum of talent in EOC doesn’t cause anger and unrest then you’re a fool.
Sorry I just can't agree. If we were in real danger of going down or in the top 10, I'd agree. "Plugging the squad with journeymen" will make no difference to the future of this club.
Seriously, read your last sentence back again. If you think signing other clubs’ players on loan and picking up journeymen on short terms deals won’t have a detrimental effect on the future on the club, then you don’t understand how a successful club should be run.
I think you need to read what you have yourself written - "short term deals"
Got to feel sorry for DH in all this, doubt he’s had much input or he surely wouldn’t have left himself so thin at the back.
Just my opinion, but he came in not as a successful applicant to a vacancy, but as part of a team brought in with clear short term objectives. He is a good orator who knows what to say to fans, but he’ll be fully onboard with all of this.
100%.
There's been a few quotes from various managers or observers that this team has massively under achieved, not from what i've seen, they are simply not good enough. Whatever you think of the reasons for the clear out, it's not before time, just have a look at the defensive record. Our most consistent players have been Dobson, Sessegnon and Fraser, Saki has just return to form and Innis and Ness have laid their bodies on the line since Holden took over. We can all see Leaburn's potential and the kids coming through are going to be better than the people moved out of the club today, those players needed to go and I'm glad to see the back of them and hopefully Sandgaard.
So you don’t foresee any injuries or suspensions ?
I do but I still think we can cope, there's nineteen games left, as much as I think the points could be gained to get to the playoffs, it's a long shot but if you have an opportunity to move certain players out, even on loan, take it. The squad is not in a good place with half a dozen players not involved in matchdays and we have enough to cope.
Oh come on Thomas are you serious ?
Have you worked out the difference between left and right yet ?
Got to feel sorry for DH in all this, doubt he’s had much input or he surely wouldn’t have left himself so thin at the back.
Just my opinion, but he came in not as a successful applicant to a vacancy, but as part of a team brought in with clear short term objectives. He is a good orator who knows what to say to fans, but he’ll be fully onboard with all of this.
100%.
There's been a few quotes from various managers or observers that this team has massively under achieved, not from what i've seen, they are simply not good enough. Whatever you think of the reasons for the clear out, it's not before time, just have a look at the defensive record. Our most consistent players have been Dobson, Sessegnon and Fraser, Saki has just return to form and Innis and Ness have laid their bodies on the line since Holden took over. We can all see Leaburn's potential and the kids coming through are going to be better than the people moved out of the club today, those players needed to go and I'm glad to see the back of them and hopefully Sandgaard.
So you don’t foresee any injuries or suspensions ?
I do but I still think we can cope, there's nineteen games left, as much as I think the points could be gained to get to the playoffs, it's a long shot but if you have an opportunity to move certain players out, even on loan, take it. The squad is not in a good place with half a dozen players not involved in matchdays and we have enough to cope.
Oh come on Thomas are you serious ?
Have you worked out the difference between left and right yet ?
There's some states on here bloody hell! You'd have thought we'd have sold De Bruyne and Haaland.
I really hate comments like this.
The concern is obviously not about offloading the likes of Kirk and Lavelle on loan. It’s about the Machiavellian transfer manoeuvring.
This is not Robert Lee joining Newcastle when we’re in second spot in the league.
This is leaving us up shit creek without a paddle in the Third Division. The longer we accept this the more it’ll happen.
A threadbare squad plugged with journeymen on short term deals and loans. We’re better than that, or we should be.
If you think on top of that selling a player with a modicum of talent in EOC doesn’t cause anger and unrest then you’re a fool.
Sorry I just can't agree. If we were in real danger of going down or in the top 10, I'd agree. "Plugging the squad with journeymen" will make no difference to the future of this club.
Seriously, read your last sentence back again. If you think signing other clubs’ players on loan and picking up journeymen on short terms deals won’t have a detrimental effect on the future on the club, then you don’t understand how a successful club should be run.
I think you need to read what you have yourself written - "short term deals"
Yep short term. So won’t be here in the summer. So we have to start all over again. And possibly with a new manager.
See where this is going? Keep up.
But you don’t think short termism damages the long term aspirations of a football club?
No striker is happening. No-one is gonna come in and agree to be fourth choice for a team that plays one up front.
If that was the case teams would only ever have 2 strikers as no-one would join them knowing that they weren't first choice.
I despair.
Not trying to make excuses because I don't rate the approach here either but those are the facts of the situation. We're up the creek without a paddle until the club has proper ownership in place.
When you expect nothing, you can't be disappointed.
45 mins and counting Where's the striker? Where's the supposed Edwards deal?
What striker?
Why are you so convinced we are signing a striker
People go on about needed a striker but in reality only 5 teams have scored more than us this season, and logically we play 1 upfront, Bonne/Leaburn rotate and Aneke as reserve when fit then we have Kanu who can play their if needed as well.
Im more concerned that we have lost CBs and conceding is where we have been having issues
You not heard of injuries ? loss of form ? suspensions ?
Cast your mind back just 12 months when the transfer window shut without us getting back up for our strikers & then Washington AND Stockley both got injured & we were playing Burstow & Kanu upfront.
But of course, that can't happen again.
Your moaning we are signing a 30 year old winger because he isn't one for the future
Your moaning we are not signing a striker to be 4th choice in case we get injuries
Instead of moaning tell us who you think we could get
But remember based on your guidelines
They have to be
A striker Good enough to play Young that we can sell on
But also remember this
They have to be willing to be backup to Bonne/leaburn
They have to be willing to accept this season is probably over
They have to accept we could be sold
They have to accept are managers contract is over in may and the new manager may not want him.
Sooooooo you got this magical name or you just gonna carry on moaning
45 mins and counting Where's the striker? Where's the supposed Edwards deal?
What striker?
Why are you so convinced we are signing a striker
People go on about needed a striker but in reality only 5 teams have scored more than us this season, and logically we play 1 upfront, Bonne/Leaburn rotate and Aneke as reserve when fit then we have Kanu who can play their if needed as well.
Im more concerned that we have lost CBs and conceding is where we have been having issues
You not heard of injuries ? loss of form ? suspensions ?
Cast your mind back just 12 months when the transfer window shut without us getting back up for our strikers & then Washington AND Stockley both got injured & we were playing Burstow & Kanu upfront.
But of course, that can't happen again.
Your moaning we are signing a 30 year old winger because he isn't one for the future
Your moaning we are not signing a striker to be 4th choice in case we get injuries
Instead of moaning tell us who you think we could get
But remember based on your guidelines
They have to be
A striker Good enough to play Young that we can sell on
But also remember this
They have to be willing to be backup to Bonne/leaburn
They have to be willing to accept this season is probably over
They have to accept we could be sold
They have to accept are managers contract is over in may and the new manager may not want him.
Sooooooo you got this magical name or you just gonna carry on moaning
Holden has had nothing to do with these sales, no manager in his right mind would let seven players and replaced with four two of which are left backs
Holden said when he joined that the squad was too big and imbalanced. I think, assuming we get Edwards, we’re a cb light but other than that we look more balanced.
It’s all slightly irrelevant as we’re not going up and we’re not going down. So signing anyone for longer than the rest of this season when the ownership is so uncertain seems pointless.
And anyone telling me that it was worth keeping any of the players we’ve got rid of bar O’Connell isn’t being honest with themselves.
Holden’s contract is up at the end of the season and there are no guarantees that he will be here for next season. Why would you move out seven players, bring in four and leave yourself light in two. We have brought in another midfielder where we have more than enough, we now have two strikers and three CB’s a twenty year old, one who is an accident waiting to happen and the third hasn’t played football for a year.
With Innis reputation we wouldn’t’ be surprised if he got injured or sent in the not to far distant future then we have a 20 year old who playing at Torquay at the start of the season
Because that's his agreed job. I took a job once where the team of 40 were nearly all poor performers and I had to replace them with effective workers and reduce the headcount by 30%.
45 mins and counting Where's the striker? Where's the supposed Edwards deal?
What striker?
Why are you so convinced we are signing a striker
People go on about needed a striker but in reality only 5 teams have scored more than us this season, and logically we play 1 upfront, Bonne/Leaburn rotate and Aneke as reserve when fit then we have Kanu who can play their if needed as well.
Im more concerned that we have lost CBs and conceding is where we have been having issues
You not heard of injuries ? loss of form ? suspensions ?
Cast your mind back just 12 months when the transfer window shut without us getting back up for our strikers & then Washington AND Stockley both got injured & we were playing Burstow & Kanu upfront.
But of course, that can't happen again.
Your moaning we are signing a 30 year old winger because he isn't one for the future
Your moaning we are not signing a striker to be 4th choice in case we get injuries
Instead of moaning tell us who you think we could get
But remember based on your guidelines
They have to be
A striker Good enough to play Young that we can sell on
But also remember this
They have to be willing to be backup to Bonne/leaburn
They have to be willing to accept this season is probably over
They have to accept we could be sold
They have to accept are managers contract is over in may and the new manager may not want him.
Sooooooo you got this magical name or you just gonna carry on moaning
No fucking clue mate. But its not my job to know.
Get Gallen to tell you where best to invest £200k & how to calculate the Pension Lifetime Allowance on a DB scheme then I'll find you a striker.
There's some states on here bloody hell! You'd have thought we'd have sold De Bruyne and Haaland.
I really hate comments like this.
The concern is obviously not about offloading the likes of Kirk and Lavelle on loan. It’s about the Machiavellian transfer manoeuvring.
This is not Robert Lee joining Newcastle when we’re in second spot in the league.
This is leaving us up shit creek without a paddle in the Third Division. The longer we accept this the more it’ll happen.
A threadbare squad plugged with journeymen on short term deals and loans. We’re better than that, or we should be.
If you think on top of that selling a player with a modicum of talent in EOC doesn’t cause anger and unrest then you’re a fool.
Sorry I just can't agree. If we were in real danger of going down or in the top 10, I'd agree. "Plugging the squad with journeymen" will make no difference to the future of this club.
Seriously, read your last sentence back again. If you think signing other clubs’ players on loan and picking up journeymen on short terms deals won’t have a detrimental effect on the future on the club, then you don’t understand how a successful club should be run.
I think you need to read what you have yourself written - "short term deals"
Yep short term. So won’t be here in the summer. So we have to start all over again. And possibly with a new manager.
See where this is going? Keep up.
But you don’t think that short termism damages the long term aspirations of a football club?
Righto.
We started the season with Mac as one of our keepers, we now have AMB. That's an improvement. Stockley was contributing nothing, we've replaced him with Bonne, that's probably an improvement. Neither McGrandles or JFC contributed anything, Kilkenny is better on paper than both. Kirk has done nothing, I doubt Edwards will be worse. We've improved at full-back with the signings of Kane and Penney.
Are you honestly telling me you wanted Mac, Stockley, Kirk, Lavelle, Thomas or JFC as part of a promotion winning squad next season. Can you remind me where those players have gone/are going? Chelsea are buying everyone with a pulse but I don't remember them bidding for any of them?
O'Connell is the only loss and even he can't get in the team at the minute. He is our best CB on the ball but our reliance on this isn't what it was under Garner.
I take your point about another rebuild in the summer but this was always going to be the case if Sandgaard was our owner anyway. I repeat what I said earlier, this window will not determine the future of the club. Getting rid of Sandgaard is what's important. Bodging the squad won't relegate or promote us, which is exactly the case as it was a few weeks ago.
45 mins and counting Where's the striker? Where's the supposed Edwards deal?
What striker?
Why are you so convinced we are signing a striker
People go on about needed a striker but in reality only 5 teams have scored more than us this season, and logically we play 1 upfront, Bonne/Leaburn rotate and Aneke as reserve when fit then we have Kanu who can play their if needed as well.
Im more concerned that we have lost CBs and conceding is where we have been having issues
You not heard of injuries ? loss of form ? suspensions ?
Cast your mind back just 12 months when the transfer window shut without us getting back up for our strikers & then Washington AND Stockley both got injured & we were playing Burstow & Kanu upfront.
But of course, that can't happen again.
Your moaning we are signing a 30 year old winger because he isn't one for the future
Your moaning we are not signing a striker to be 4th choice in case we get injuries
Instead of moaning tell us who you think we could get
But remember based on your guidelines
They have to be
A striker Good enough to play Young that we can sell on
But also remember this
They have to be willing to be backup to Bonne/leaburn
They have to be willing to accept this season is probably over
They have to accept we could be sold
They have to accept are managers contract is over in may and the new manager may not want him.
Sooooooo you got this magical name or you just gonna carry on moaning
No fucking clue mate. But its not my job to know.
Get Gallen to tell you where best to invest £200k & how to calculate the Pension Lifetime Allowance on a DB scheme then I'll find you a striker.
Ok.
But Gallen isn't moaning about how you do your job is he.
So if you can't do Gallens job, stop moaning about it and let him get on with it
Comments
1st choice: Leaburn.
Peterborough signed. Decent prospect today to play understudy to Clarke Harris.
We don't exclusively play one up front though....Holden likes a 352 and has changed to two up towards the end of games.
We have Two strikers. Plus a cheat code sometimes. We're forcing ourselves to be wedded to playing a one striker formation.
Everyone EVERYONE agreed we were a forward short after the summer window, we're right back there again. (Possibly/ probably)
Righto.
When you expect nothing, you can't be disappointed.
Your moaning we are not signing a striker to be 4th choice in case we get injuries
Instead of moaning tell us who you think we could get
But remember based on your guidelines
They have to be
A striker
Good enough to play
Young that we can sell on
But also remember this
They have to be willing to be backup to Bonne/leaburn
They have to be willing to accept this season is probably over
They have to accept we could be
sold
They have to accept are managers contract is over in may and the new manager may not want him.
Sooooooo you got this magical name or you just gonna carry on moaning
Thought we were a bit unbalanced at first, but now ...
I took a job once where the team of 40 were nearly all poor performers and I had to replace them with effective workers and reduce the headcount by 30%.
Get Gallen to tell you where best to invest £200k & how to calculate the Pension Lifetime Allowance on a DB scheme then I'll find you a striker.
Ok.
I just saw Chris Martin has leftBristol City…always rated him in the past.
Just 5 minutes until the window SLAMS shut!
Are you honestly telling me you wanted Mac, Stockley, Kirk, Lavelle, Thomas or JFC as part of a promotion winning squad next season. Can you remind me where those players have gone/are going? Chelsea are buying everyone with a pulse but I don't remember them bidding for any of them?
O'Connell is the only loss and even he can't get in the team at the minute. He is our best CB on the ball but our reliance on this isn't what it was under Garner.
I take your point about another rebuild in the summer but this was always going to be the case if Sandgaard was our owner anyway. I repeat what I said earlier, this window will not determine the future of the club. Getting rid of Sandgaard is what's important. Bodging the squad won't relegate or promote us, which is exactly the case as it was a few weeks ago.
So if you can't do Gallens job, stop moaning about it and let him get on with it