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January Transfer Window - Jan 2023 (Deadline Day starts page 112)
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Doesn’t often work like that in the real world. A player in his position can take his time and see what offers come in. I’ll be surprised if he’s playing in L1 next season.NabySarr said:
Agree. Should start with Sessegnon, his contract is up in the summer and Fulham are staying up so aren’t going to keep him. Should be all over that now before there’s more competition in the summerPelling1993 said:I'd rather bring in 2/3 permanent of real quality for next season rather than 5/6 crap frees and loans0 -
Are Plymouth spending lots of money?supaclive said:
Let's not mix fact with fiction. They got bought by a big American Pension fund IN APRIL 2021. Hired the most impressive on paper candidate from the lower leagues in Paul Cook (IN MARCH 2021) and it didn't work out. Regrouped, bought some solid players, got rid of some of last year's players and are now third in division 1, 2 points outside the automatic places and 9 points ahead of 4th. Their ownership have owned them for less than 2 years.kodfish said:
And they still are.Oggy Red said:
Exactly. Ipswich in recent years always seem to sign about 20 players a season.eastterrace6168 said:What's this obsession with bloody Ipswich, who cares about any players they sign, I don't...if, and it's a big IF and when we get going will be worth reading, hopefully 🤷♂️
They've been a Third Division club all that time.
Isn't what has happened with them, what we want for Charlton? New owners who add funds and actually try and get us out of this god awful division? Surely that's what we are wanting. Ipswich are much closer to achieving this than us. No sane Charlton fan can want what we have now? We all know that it will take lots of money to turn this club around and get us into the Championship?
I can't believe people moan or say look at Ipswich, they're in league 1 just like us. They're trying to get out of Division 1 and it will take LOTS of money to take on Plymouth, Derby, Sheff Wed, Ipswich et al - that's just reality....0 -
Yes he is probably too good for us. But it would be nice if we tried to offer him a London option where he is already settled, with guaranteed first team football. We are probably only going to bring in average at best players this window so it would be great if we could at least try and keep some of the good players we have now like Sessegnon and DobsonScoham said:
Doesn’t often work like that in the real world. A player in his position can take his time and see what offers come in. I’ll be surprised if he’s playing in L1 next season.NabySarr said:
Agree. Should start with Sessegnon, his contract is up in the summer and Fulham are staying up so aren’t going to keep him. Should be all over that now before there’s more competition in the summerPelling1993 said:I'd rather bring in 2/3 permanent of real quality for next season rather than 5/6 crap frees and loans0 -
As long as they do it respectfullyScoham said:
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Stockley apparently is a loan, which begs the question… why are we not just bloody selling him? I can’t imagine he would be hard to get a fee for1
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Yep, they did say please...Pelling1993 said:
As long as they do it respectfullyScoham said:
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As Golfie said, we need to bring players in before we let Stockley go. Some people seem to look at our best eleven and forget about the squad.9
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To be fair they are bottom of the football league so I would imagine most players going there would be loans with view to a permanent if they stay up.000__Jaaaaay__000 said:Stockley apparently is a loan, which begs the question… why are we not just bloody selling him? I can’t imagine he would be hard to get a fee for3 -
Told by someone last week that the EFL had received paperwork for a "forward player" joining us.LonelyNorthernAddick said:
Is this based off any info you have or just guesswork?Dazzler21 said:I'm now certain one was due to complete last week and pulled out last minute.
No name, just a forward player (could be a winger or a striker).
Then it went deftly quiet but the person is adamant it happened.1 - Sponsored links:
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Now JFC has gone we have 3 spaces in the squad. I expect a net increase, from now, of 3.supaclive said:
3 in and 3 out? That won't help the overall position with the squad. We will end up either light at left back, centre forward or somewhere else - I would hazard a guess at wide midfield.Cafc43v3r said:
Bringing people in and having funds avaliable aren't the same thing. I would be shocked if we spend a transfer fee. I would be shocked if we don't bring in at least 3.FishCostaFortune said:
I have not watched Andy Scott's first interview, but this is apparently what he said::Covered_End_Lad said:Comes across well.
Said we will be doing early business.
No-one will leave until we have added to the squad
Those that do leave will be fringe players only.
There are funds to spend.
1: There's four league matches in January, I would say if we don't have anyone in by the second match then it is not 'early'.
2: JFC has left, we have added no one.
3: No matter what people think if his ability, or if he should have played more, he was a fringe player.
4: Remains to be seen. But I think if funds were available we would have been able to bring someone in early, instead of waiting for prices to reduce.
Kirk, DJ and Stockley out? All 3 on decent salaries and decent transfer fees. They'll be replaced with loans or free signings. Again I say,,,, I wouldn't be against Bonne or Wickham but Wickham on paper is not any better/safer bet than Aneke - the last half a season has been an anomaly and Bonne's goalscoring record is worse than Stockley's.
We are simply polishing turds and it'll mean we won't go down, but let's all be honest, we'll be way, way, way short of being able to put together a side for a promotion push next season. Which is what a club with the history, size and ambitions of Charlton should be doing, at the very least.....
Next season is 100% dependent on who owns us bu then, isn't it?0 -
If we could get a fee for him we wouldn't be selling him. No way is he going to give up he last 18 months on his contract to sign for a club that could be in the national league in 4 months time either.000__Jaaaaay__000 said:Stockley apparently is a loan, which begs the question… why are we not just bloody selling him? I can’t imagine he would be hard to get a fee for0 -
Loan at stockleys request? There is a chance that gillingham could be non league next year.000__Jaaaaay__000 said:Stockley apparently is a loan, which begs the question… why are we not just bloody selling him? I can’t imagine he would be hard to get a fee for0 -
Scoham said:
Does that mean both Stockley and DJ are going to Gillingham on their best behaviour 😀
Or should it read:
Stockley and DJ could be going to Gillingham and Mansfield respectively 👍3 -
Not lots of money, but they have a MUCH better squad than us as they haven't been woefully mismanaged for the last umpteen years!sm said:
Are Plymouth spending lots of money?supaclive said:
Let's not mix fact with fiction. They got bought by a big American Pension fund IN APRIL 2021. Hired the most impressive on paper candidate from the lower leagues in Paul Cook (IN MARCH 2021) and it didn't work out. Regrouped, bought some solid players, got rid of some of last year's players and are now third in division 1, 2 points outside the automatic places and 9 points ahead of 4th. Their ownership have owned them for less than 2 years.kodfish said:
And they still are.Oggy Red said:
Exactly. Ipswich in recent years always seem to sign about 20 players a season.eastterrace6168 said:What's this obsession with bloody Ipswich, who cares about any players they sign, I don't...if, and it's a big IF and when we get going will be worth reading, hopefully 🤷♂️
They've been a Third Division club all that time.
Isn't what has happened with them, what we want for Charlton? New owners who add funds and actually try and get us out of this god awful division? Surely that's what we are wanting. Ipswich are much closer to achieving this than us. No sane Charlton fan can want what we have now? We all know that it will take lots of money to turn this club around and get us into the Championship?
I can't believe people moan or say look at Ipswich, they're in league 1 just like us. They're trying to get out of Division 1 and it will take LOTS of money to take on Plymouth, Derby, Sheff Wed, Ipswich et al - that's just reality....
So, you want us to take this squad, spend no money and get promoted in the next 2 years?
Righty-ho.....0 -
Jayden Stockley told me he was settled at Charlton and where he lives in Godstone, Surrey, in the Summer But unfortunately his Cafc form has gone to pot since 4-3-3 came about under Adkins and Garner. His form under JJ in a 2 up front was decent League 1, hence his 20 goals in all competition plus he missed games through that back injury last season.
Shows how his stock has fallen if it's Gillingham 24th in League 2 and not Sheffield Wednesday and Portsmouth who both showed interest 18 months ago to buy him.
Wednesday eventually went for Michael Smith who has improved with age even though I saw his potential when watching Charlton U21 on several occasions including his 5 goals in the Kent cup final.
From where Jayden lives just 5 minutes from M25 Junction 6, Gillingham would be doable without moving and getting a caravan on the isle of Sheppey !
Would the new American owner make Stockley a marquee signing and play him in a two up front and pay him a similar wage to his Charlton deal ?
He has lost his way at Cafc and it would be best for both club and player. A gentle giant off the pitch and couldn't be more different from his on pitch demeanor.20 -
Gills hoping to snap up Stockley to compete with their tea lady for top scorer.0
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We’d free up about 5/6k a week in wages if Stockley goes2
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Another day gone.0
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So it looks more and more likely that all they are looking for is out of contract players who are or the hill , crocked or bot and have be sitting on their backside for 6 months or more.
The usual Charlton strengthening of the squad.
As you may gather I do not believe in the rumors of money for transfers or for that matter in take overs either.2 - Sponsored links:
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I do remember a time, quite a few years ago admittedly, that most people wanted the club to not be run by rich owners, but to be run in a sustainable way. I've noticed that trend change over the years as we've dropped further down the leagues.
Now everyone wants someone to come in and spend a considerable amount of money on a frankly terrible investment opportunity, but not have any active involvement in the club.
You have to wonder what the motivation for that would be, given it's unlikely there's a billionaire charlton fan willing to step up?2 -
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/andy-scott-outlines-charlton-athletics-clear-plans-for-january-transfer-window/
“Primarily the idea is that we want to bring players in. That is going to be the biggest concern and the biggest workload that we’re going to do is bring players in.
“Once we’ve done that and we’ve brought in the right players we can assess the squad properly. See which players aren’t going to contribute as much as they want to or we want them to.
And if there are players that are wanted by other clubs and we can move them out in a good deal for the football club and we can use those funds to strengthen again then we will do that."
December 22nd.
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Letting Stockley move on before replacing him would be a very different scenario to that of Forster-Caskey. That would be the first red flag IMO.
As mentioned many times, JFC plays in an area of the pitch where we have more than half a dozen other players in the squad capable. His presence, or lack of, will not materially affect our squad depth.
By contrast, Jayden’s omission would absolutely have a detrimental affect on squad depth. His production is definitely not good enough and if a suitable replacement is brought in first, I’m absolutely in favour of moving on.
Having no replacement in and leaving this club with Leaburn, a crocked Aneke and Kanu as our forward line options as a result would be squad suicide.
But it’s not happened yet so I’m not going to beat the club over the head until it gets announced.13 -
While I can see the Gillingham/Stockers deal happening, can't see anything happening until towards the end of the window, when we will have got some decent cover in already, no one would be daft enough...would they..to deal before that. 🤷♂️🤞0
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Wouldn't surprise me if Bonne had already signed and the club were planning to announce it as close to the Man Utd game as possible in order to distract from any fan dissatisfaction.1
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Apparently towards the end of the window, the chains loosen up and it's easier to get bargains and negotiate better deals.3
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I have wanted a multi billionaire since the prem days. When it became obvious that Murray et al did not have the resources to compete in the prem. But yes every one went on about doing it the Charlton way what ever that is.balham red said:I do remember a time, quite a few years ago admittedly, that most people wanted the club to not be run by rich owners, but to be run in a sustainable way. I've noticed that trend change over the years as we've dropped further down the leagues.
Now everyone wants someone to come in and spend a considerable amount of money on a frankly terrible investment opportunity, but not have any active involvement in the club.
You have to wonder what the motivation for that would be, given it's unlikely there's a billionaire charlton fan willing to step up?1 -
Here's Candyeastterrace6168 said:If if's and but's were candy and nuts, we'd all be a lot better off...🤷♂️
I can't find a picture of her nuts.3 -
Wheresmeticket? said:
Here's Candyeastterrace6168 said:If if's and but's were candy and nuts, we'd all be a lot better off...🤷♂️
I can't find a picture of her nuts.
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Would be madness to let Stockley leave before anyone comes in. We are already a striker light and trying to sign 2 half decent ones in January will be nigh on impossible.
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