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January Transfer Window - Jan 2023 (Deadline Day starts page 112)

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  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    NabySarr said:
    I'd rather bring in 2/3 permanent of real quality for next season rather than 5/6 crap frees and loans
    Agree. Should start with Sessegnon, his contract is up in the summer and Fulham are staying up so aren’t going to keep him. Should be all over that now before there’s more competition in the summer 
    Doesn’t often work like that in the real world. A player in his position can take his time and see what offers come in. I’ll be surprised if he’s playing in L1 next season.
  • sm
    sm Posts: 2,958
    supaclive said:
    kodfish said:
    Oggy Red said:
    What's this obsession with bloody Ipswich, who cares about any players they sign, I don't...if, and it's a big IF and when we get going will be worth reading, hopefully 🤷‍♂️
    Exactly. Ipswich in recent years always seem to sign about 20 players a season.

    They've been a Third Division club all that time.




    And they still are. 
    Let's not mix fact with fiction.   They got bought by a big American Pension fund IN APRIL 2021.   Hired the most impressive on paper candidate from the lower leagues in Paul Cook (IN MARCH 2021) and it didn't work out.   Regrouped, bought some solid players, got rid of some of last year's players and are now third in division 1, 2 points outside the automatic places and 9 points ahead of 4th.  Their ownership have owned them for less than 2 years.

    Isn't what has happened with them, what we want for Charlton?   New owners who add funds and actually try and get us out of this god awful division?   Surely that's what we are wanting.   Ipswich are much closer to achieving this than us.   No sane Charlton fan can want what we have now?    We all know that it will take lots of money to turn this club around and get us into the Championship?

    I can't believe people moan or say look at Ipswich, they're in league 1 just like us.   They're trying to get out of Division 1 and it will take LOTS of money to take on Plymouth, Derby, Sheff Wed, Ipswich et al - that's just reality.... 

    Are Plymouth spending lots of money?
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,284
    Scoham said:
    NabySarr said:
    I'd rather bring in 2/3 permanent of real quality for next season rather than 5/6 crap frees and loans
    Agree. Should start with Sessegnon, his contract is up in the summer and Fulham are staying up so aren’t going to keep him. Should be all over that now before there’s more competition in the summer 
    Doesn’t often work like that in the real world. A player in his position can take his time and see what offers come in. I’ll be surprised if he’s playing in L1 next season.
    Yes he is probably too good for us. But it would be nice if we tried to offer him a London option where he is already settled, with guaranteed first team football. We are probably only going to bring in average at best players this window so it would be great if we could at least try and keep some of the good players we have now like Sessegnon and Dobson 
  • Stockley apparently is a loan, which begs the question… why are we not just bloody selling him? I can’t imagine he would be hard to get a fee for 
  • Yep, they did say please... ;)
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    As Golfie said, we need to bring players in before we let Stockley go. Some people seem to look at our best eleven and forget about the squad. 
  • Stockley apparently is a loan, which begs the question… why are we not just bloody selling him? I can’t imagine he would be hard to get a fee for 
    To be fair they are bottom of the football league so I would imagine most players going there would be loans with view to a permanent if they stay up. 
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    Dazzler21 said:
    I'm now certain one was due to complete last week and pulled out last minute. 

    No name, just a forward player (could be a winger or a striker). 

    Is this based off any info you have or just guesswork? 
    Told by someone last week that the EFL had received paperwork for a "forward player" joining us. 

    Then it went deftly quiet but the person is adamant it happened. 
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  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    edited January 2023
    supaclive said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Comes across well.

    Said we will be doing early business.
    No-one will leave until we have added to the squad
    Those that do leave will be fringe players only.
    There are funds to spend.
    I have not watched Andy Scott's first interview, but this is apparently what he said::

    1: There's four league matches in January, I would say if we don't have anyone in by the second match then it is not 'early'.

    2: JFC has left, we have added no one. 

    3: No matter what people think if his ability, or if he should have played more, he was a fringe player.

    4: Remains to be seen. But I think if funds were available we would have been able to bring someone in early, instead of waiting for prices to reduce.


    Bringing people in and having funds avaliable aren't the same thing.  I would be shocked if we spend a transfer fee.  I would be shocked if we don't bring in at least 3.
    3 in and 3 out?   That won't help the overall position with the squad.   We will end up either light at left back, centre forward or somewhere else - I would hazard a guess at wide midfield.

    Kirk, DJ and Stockley out?   All 3 on decent salaries and decent transfer fees.   They'll be replaced with loans or free signings.   Again I say,,,, I wouldn't be against Bonne or Wickham but Wickham on paper is not any better/safer bet than Aneke - the last half a season has been an anomaly and Bonne's goalscoring record is worse than Stockley's.

    We are simply polishing turds and it'll mean we won't go down, but let's all be honest, we'll be way, way, way short of being able to put together a side for a promotion push next season.    Which is what a club with the history, size and ambitions of Charlton should be doing, at the very least.....
    Now JFC has gone we have 3 spaces in the squad.  I expect a net increase, from now, of 3.  

    Next season is 100% dependent on who owns us bu then, isn't it? 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Stockley apparently is a loan, which begs the question… why are we not just bloody selling him? I can’t imagine he would be hard to get a fee for 
    If we could get a fee for him we wouldn't be selling him.  No way is he going to give up he last 18 months on his contract to sign for a club that could be in the national league in 4 months time either.
  • Stockley apparently is a loan, which begs the question… why are we not just bloody selling him? I can’t imagine he would be hard to get a fee for 
    Loan at stockleys request? There is a chance that gillingham could be non league next year. 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    edited January 2023
    Scoham said:

    Does that mean both Stockley and DJ are going to Gillingham on their best behaviour 😀

    Or should it read:
    Stockley and DJ could be going to Gillingham and Mansfield respectively  👍
  • supaclive
    supaclive Posts: 6,514
    sm said:
    supaclive said:
    kodfish said:
    Oggy Red said:
    What's this obsession with bloody Ipswich, who cares about any players they sign, I don't...if, and it's a big IF and when we get going will be worth reading, hopefully 🤷‍♂️
    Exactly. Ipswich in recent years always seem to sign about 20 players a season.

    They've been a Third Division club all that time.




    And they still are. 
    Let's not mix fact with fiction.   They got bought by a big American Pension fund IN APRIL 2021.   Hired the most impressive on paper candidate from the lower leagues in Paul Cook (IN MARCH 2021) and it didn't work out.   Regrouped, bought some solid players, got rid of some of last year's players and are now third in division 1, 2 points outside the automatic places and 9 points ahead of 4th.  Their ownership have owned them for less than 2 years.

    Isn't what has happened with them, what we want for Charlton?   New owners who add funds and actually try and get us out of this god awful division?   Surely that's what we are wanting.   Ipswich are much closer to achieving this than us.   No sane Charlton fan can want what we have now?    We all know that it will take lots of money to turn this club around and get us into the Championship?

    I can't believe people moan or say look at Ipswich, they're in league 1 just like us.   They're trying to get out of Division 1 and it will take LOTS of money to take on Plymouth, Derby, Sheff Wed, Ipswich et al - that's just reality.... 

    Are Plymouth spending lots of money?
    Not lots of money, but they have a MUCH better squad than us as they haven't been woefully mismanaged for the last umpteen years!

    So, you want us to take this squad, spend no money and get promoted in the next 2 years?

    Righty-ho.....
  • Gills hoping to snap up Stockley to compete with their tea lady for top scorer. 
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,255
    We’d free up about 5/6k a week in wages if Stockley goes 
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,310
    Another day gone.
  • msomerton
    msomerton Posts: 2,972
    So it looks more and more likely that all they are looking for is out of contract players who are or the hill , crocked or bot and have be sitting on their backside for 6 months or more.
    The usual Charlton strengthening of the squad.
    As you may gather I do not believe in the rumors of money for transfers or for that matter in take overs either.
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  • balham red
    balham red Posts: 1,278
    I do remember a time, quite a few years ago admittedly, that most people wanted the club to not be run by rich owners, but to be run in a sustainable way. I've noticed that trend change over the years as we've dropped further down the leagues.

    Now everyone wants someone to come in and spend a considerable amount of money on a frankly terrible investment opportunity, but not have any active involvement in the club.

    You have to wonder what the motivation for that would be, given it's unlikely there's a billionaire charlton fan willing to step up?
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,446
    https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/andy-scott-outlines-charlton-athletics-clear-plans-for-january-transfer-window/

    “Primarily the idea is that we want to bring players in. That is going to be the biggest concern and the biggest workload that we’re going to do is bring players in.

    Once we’ve done that and we’ve brought in the right players we can assess the squad properly. See which players aren’t going to contribute as much as they want to or we want them to.

    And if there are players that are wanted by other clubs and we can move them out in a good deal for the football club and we can use those funds to strengthen again then we will do that."

    December 22nd. 

  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    edited January 2023
    Letting Stockley move on before replacing him would be a very different scenario to that of Forster-Caskey. That would be the first red flag IMO.

    As mentioned many times, JFC plays in an area of the pitch where we have more than half a dozen other players in the squad capable. His presence, or lack of, will not materially affect our squad depth.

    By contrast, Jayden’s omission would absolutely have a detrimental affect on squad depth. His production is definitely not good enough and if a suitable replacement is brought in first, I’m absolutely in favour of moving on.

    Having no replacement in and leaving this club with Leaburn, a crocked Aneke and Kanu as our forward line options as a result would be squad suicide.


    But it’s not happened yet so I’m not going to beat the club over the head until it gets announced.
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,517
    edited January 2023
    While I can see the Gillingham/Stockers deal happening, can't see anything happening until towards the end of the window, when we will have got some decent cover in already, no one would be daft enough...would they..to deal before that.  🤷‍♂️🤞
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,348
    Wouldn't surprise me if Bonne had already signed and the club were planning to announce it as close to the Man Utd game as possible in order to distract from any fan dissatisfaction. 
  • Apparently towards the end of the window, the chains loosen up and it's easier to get bargains and negotiate better deals.
  • msomerton
    msomerton Posts: 2,972
    I do remember a time, quite a few years ago admittedly, that most people wanted the club to not be run by rich owners, but to be run in a sustainable way. I've noticed that trend change over the years as we've dropped further down the leagues.

    Now everyone wants someone to come in and spend a considerable amount of money on a frankly terrible investment opportunity, but not have any active involvement in the club.

    You have to wonder what the motivation for that would be, given it's unlikely there's a billionaire charlton fan willing to step up?
    I have wanted a multi billionaire since the prem days. When it became obvious that Murray et al did not have the resources to compete in the prem. But yes  every  one went on about doing it the Charlton way what ever that is.
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    Here's Candy

    Hari Nef ser Candy Darling en un biopic de la actriz - Shangay

    I can't find a picture of her nuts.
  • If if's and but's were candy and nuts, we'd all be a lot better off...🤷‍♂️
    Here's Candy

    Hari Nef ser Candy Darling en un biopic de la actriz - Shangay

    I can't find a picture of her nuts.

  • IanJRO
    IanJRO Posts: 691
    Would be madness to let Stockley leave before anyone comes in. We are already a striker light and trying to sign 2 half decent ones in January will be nigh on impossible.