@cafcfan1990 if you think getting rid of three or four players currently with our injuries makes sense without getting replacements in at the same time or you know what, BEFORE we let players go then in my opinion that is suicide.
The squad was light already.
JFC, Stockley, Mac (played yesterday!), Kirk - despite their limitations will all be needed between now and May to keep us in this division if we don't get replacements.
This is a tried and tested path we've been down before and why blind faith is installed I have no idea.
"Wait and see" "It's only X days into the window"
This has been trotted out for the last 3 windows.
We have every right to be sceptical of our owner!
JFC is the only one who has gone and he's barely played, apart from cup competitions which we are pretty much out of (wouldn't have started Tues anyway). Do we even need a CM to replace him? Yes, I'd like one if we can bring in a bit of quality but in terms of like for like, what would be the point in signing another Nile John?
Mac is pretty much disliked universally. Yes he played yesterday but Wollacott shouldn't be far away. There is always the option to get a keeper in on a short-term emergency loan so even if he left tomorrow I can't see us being weaker.
I also think we can afford to lose Lavelle with Thomas and O'Connell back and Ness involved. I agree on any of the others. I'm not fussed if Stockley, Kirk or DJ leave, but I would want someone in first.
There's no blind faith but I'm not going to get my knickers in a twist over players who do not improve us, regardless of whether the squad was light. It was a bit like when Claydon left on loan. Yes, he was an option at left-back but not a very good one so it made no difference either way IMO.
We already have a small squad and people are happy with our squad getting EVEN smaller without replacements in first.
We're doing the window backwards and again will find ourselves short in Feb when injuries hit.
That is because the new players wages have to come out of the ones who leave, so they have to go first. There is no transfer budget otherwise.
We’re 19pts off 50 which should be safety and have 19 games left. I’m probably going against the grain here, but do we need to bring anyone in? Providing Leaburn isn’t sold and doesn’t get injured, I think at most, we need a forward as cover.
Between the rest of the squad, even if we offload Stockley, Mansfield & Kirk for example, I think we have enough to stay up. This isn’t me advocating there’s an appropriate level of talent, it’s still massively off being able to get us out this division, but I would rather we don’t risk bringing in another Mansfield or Aneke in Jan, just for the sake of it, thus impacting next season.
For me, getting rid of a few like Stockley, JFC, Mansfield and Kirk would be a good window. We’re not going up. We’ve probably got enough in the tank to stay up. Why not shed some of the mediocrity that’s clogged up the squad and finally, do a proper plan for 23/24? Unless something really good comes along, I think any additions with contracts until the end of the season would be a risk
We’re 19pts off 50 which should be safety and have 19 games left. I’m probably going against the grain here, but do we need to bring anyone in? Providing Leaburn isn’t sold and doesn’t get injured, I think at most, we need a forward as cover.
Between the rest of the squad, even if we offload Stockley, Mansfield & Kirk for example, I think we have enough to stay up. This isn’t me advocating there’s an appropriate level of talent, it’s still massively off being able to get us out this division, but I would rather we don’t risk bringing in another Mansfield or Aneke in Jan, just for the sake of it, thus impacting next season.
For me, getting rid of a few like Stockley, JFC, Mansfield and Kirk would be a good window. We’re not going up. We’ve probably got enough in the tank to stay up. Why not shed some of the mediocrity that’s clogged up the squad and finally, do a proper plan for 23/24? Unless something really good comes along, I think any additions with contracts until the end of the season would be a risk
We have got 3 squad spaces free. We have no cover at left back, no viable alternative at center foward or winger if any of the front 3 get knack. Even if it's just 3 loans I want those spaces filled.
If JRS and Sessegnon were recalled and Leaburn flogged or injured we would be up shit street.
We’re 19pts off 50 which should be safety and have 19 games left. I’m probably going against the grain here, but do we need to bring anyone in? Providing Leaburn isn’t sold and doesn’t get injured, I think at most, we need a forward as cover.
Between the rest of the squad, even if we offload Stockley, Mansfield & Kirk for example, I think we have enough to stay up. This isn’t me advocating there’s an appropriate level of talent, it’s still massively off being able to get us out this division, but I would rather we don’t risk bringing in another Mansfield or Aneke in Jan, just for the sake of it, thus impacting next season.
For me, getting rid of a few like Stockley, JFC, Mansfield and Kirk would be a good window. We’re not going up. We’ve probably got enough in the tank to stay up. Why not shed some of the mediocrity that’s clogged up the squad and finally, do a proper plan for 23/24? Unless something really good comes along, I think any additions with contracts until the end of the season would be a risk
We have got 3 squad spaces free. We have no cover at left back, no viable alternative at center foward or winger if any of the front 3 get knack. Even if it's just 3 loans I want those spaces.
If JRS and Sessegnon were recalled and Leaburn flogged or injured we would be up shit street.
Mad that people are already trying to justify a transfer window if we sign no one at all.
We had a rubbish squad leftover from summer, if we sign no-one we enter february with it even worse.
We’re 19pts off 50 which should be safety and have 19 games left. I’m probably going against the grain here, but do we need to bring anyone in? Providing Leaburn isn’t sold and doesn’t get injured, I think at most, we need a forward as cover.
Between the rest of the squad, even if we offload Stockley, Mansfield & Kirk for example, I think we have enough to stay up. This isn’t me advocating there’s an appropriate level of talent, it’s still massively off being able to get us out this division, but I would rather we don’t risk bringing in another Mansfield or Aneke in Jan, just for the sake of it, thus impacting next season.
For me, getting rid of a few like Stockley, JFC, Mansfield and Kirk would be a good window. We’re not going up. We’ve probably got enough in the tank to stay up. Why not shed some of the mediocrity that’s clogged up the squad and finally, do a proper plan for 23/24? Unless something really good comes along, I think any additions with contracts until the end of the season would be a risk
We have got 3 squad spaces free. We have no cover at left back, no viable alternative at center foward or winger if any of the front 3 get knack. Even if it's just 3 loans I want those spaces.
If JRS and Sessegnon were recalled and Leaburn flogged or injured we would be up shit street.
Mad that people are already trying to justify a transfer window if we sign no one at all.
We had a rubbish squad leftover from summer, if we sign no-one we enter february with it even worse.
But if that happened how would you vent your mock outrage at everything in life? You would feel dead inside.
We’re 19pts off 50 which should be safety and have 19 games left. I’m probably going against the grain here, but do we need to bring anyone in? Providing Leaburn isn’t sold and doesn’t get injured, I think at most, we need a forward as cover.
Between the rest of the squad, even if we offload Stockley, Mansfield & Kirk for example, I think we have enough to stay up. This isn’t me advocating there’s an appropriate level of talent, it’s still massively off being able to get us out this division, but I would rather we don’t risk bringing in another Mansfield or Aneke in Jan, just for the sake of it, thus impacting next season.
For me, getting rid of a few like Stockley, JFC, Mansfield and Kirk would be a good window. We’re not going up. We’ve probably got enough in the tank to stay up. Why not shed some of the mediocrity that’s clogged up the squad and finally, do a proper plan for 23/24? Unless something really good comes along, I think any additions with contracts until the end of the season would be a risk
We have got 3 squad spaces free. We have no cover at left back, no viable alternative at center foward or winger if any of the front 3 get knack. Even if it's just 3 loans I want those spaces.
If JRS and Sessegnon were recalled and Leaburn flogged or injured we would be up shit street.
Mad that people are already trying to justify a transfer window if we sign no one at all.
We had a rubbish squad leftover from summer, if we sign no-one we enter february with it even worse.
Not trying to justify it, merely pointing out that other than getting six month deals in as cover, we run the risk of impacting next season. Safety is key and I think we’ll have enough as it stands, maybe bring in one or two. But I’m not confident offering out 1 and a half or 2 year contracts based on the last few years
With so many games to go, we shouldn't be writing off a play off place, even if it is unlikely. But we are going to need some decent additions which we have no evidence of happening yet. In terms of relegation, we shoud be ok but a few injuries in certain positions as we are now and we can't rule it out.
It is an interesting one. Realistically we are not going up or down this season, signings or not, so you can see the reasoning for not pushing it.
But, the club needs a lift and it needs excitement and it needs momentum going into next season so I think a couple of exciting signings (Including a striker) will help lift the season and encourage the fans things are moving in the right direction and convince players in the summer that we are a good club to join.
It is an interesting one. Realistically we are not going up or down this season, signings or not, so you can see the reasoning for not pushing it.
But, the club needs a lift and it needs excitement and it needs momentum going into next season so I think a couple of exciting signings (Including a striker) will help lift the season and encourage the fans things are moving in the right direction and convince players in the summer that we are a good club to join.
We desperately need a couple of bodies, the right bodies in the right places, but I would be shocked if we paid a fee and gave anyone a 3.5 year deal like we did with Chuks and Fraser last January. And DJ the year before.
For what it's worth I believe the original left back target is off but a different one is close and could happen tomorrow.
Also Bonne (to the end of the season) AND Wickham (18 month highly incentive based contract) are both possible.
JRS being recalled is now less likely as they were worried we would stick with 352.
It is an interesting one. Realistically we are not going up or down this season, signings or not, so you can see the reasoning for not pushing it.
But, the club needs a lift and it needs excitement and it needs momentum going into next season so I think a couple of exciting signings (Including a striker) will help lift the season and encourage the fans things are moving in the right direction and convince players in the summer that we are a good club to join.
We desperately need a couple of bodies, the right bodies in the right places, but I would be shocked if we paid a fee and gave anyone a 3.5 year deal like we did with Chuks and Fraser last January. And DJ the year before.
For what it's worth I believe the original left back target is off but a different one is close and could happen tomorrow.
Also Bonne (to the end of the season) AND Wickham (18 month highly incentive based contract) are both possible.
JRS being recalled is now less likely as they were worried we would stick with 352.
Is it the Palace left back? I presume that Shane Ferguson won't happen now. He started for Rotherham yesterday.
We’re 19pts off 50 which should be safety and have 19 games left. I’m probably going against the grain here, but do we need to bring anyone in? Providing Leaburn isn’t sold and doesn’t get injured, I think at most, we need a forward as cover.
Between the rest of the squad, even if we offload Stockley, Mansfield & Kirk for example, I think we have enough to stay up. This isn’t me advocating there’s an appropriate level of talent, it’s still massively off being able to get us out this division, but I would rather we don’t risk bringing in another Mansfield or Aneke in Jan, just for the sake of it, thus impacting next season.
For me, getting rid of a few like Stockley, JFC, Mansfield and Kirk would be a good window. We’re not going up. We’ve probably got enough in the tank to stay up. Why not shed some of the mediocrity that’s clogged up the squad and finally, do a proper plan for 23/24? Unless something really good comes along, I think any additions with contracts until the end of the season would be a risk
We have got 3 squad spaces free. We have no cover at left back, no viable alternative at center foward or winger if any of the front 3 get knack. Even if it's just 3 loans I want those spaces.
If JRS and Sessegnon were recalled and Leaburn flogged or injured we would be up shit street.
Mad that people are already trying to justify a transfer window if we sign no one at all.
We had a rubbish squad leftover from summer, if we sign no-one we enter february with it even worse.
Not trying to justify it, merely pointing out that other than getting six month deals in as cover, we run the risk of impacting next season. Safety is key and I think we’ll have enough as it stands, maybe bring in one or two. But I’m not confident offering out 1 and a half or 2 year contracts based on the last few years
Sign good players and I hope they would impact next season yes.
Fraser was a january signing. We can sign players with beyond 6 months time in mind.
We’re 19pts off 50 which should be safety and have 19 games left. I’m probably going against the grain here, but do we need to bring anyone in? Providing Leaburn isn’t sold and doesn’t get injured, I think at most, we need a forward as cover.
Between the rest of the squad, even if we offload Stockley, Mansfield & Kirk for example, I think we have enough to stay up. This isn’t me advocating there’s an appropriate level of talent, it’s still massively off being able to get us out this division, but I would rather we don’t risk bringing in another Mansfield or Aneke in Jan, just for the sake of it, thus impacting next season.
For me, getting rid of a few like Stockley, JFC, Mansfield and Kirk would be a good window. We’re not going up. We’ve probably got enough in the tank to stay up. Why not shed some of the mediocrity that’s clogged up the squad and finally, do a proper plan for 23/24? Unless something really good comes along, I think any additions with contracts until the end of the season would be a risk
We have got 3 squad spaces free. We have no cover at left back, no viable alternative at center foward or winger if any of the front 3 get knack. Even if it's just 3 loans I want those spaces.
If JRS and Sessegnon were recalled and Leaburn flogged or injured we would be up shit street.
Mad that people are already trying to justify a transfer window if we sign no one at all.
We had a rubbish squad leftover from summer, if we sign no-one we enter february with it even worse.
Not trying to justify it, merely pointing out that other than getting six month deals in as cover, we run the risk of impacting next season. Safety is key and I think we’ll have enough as it stands, maybe bring in one or two. But I’m not confident offering out 1 and a half or 2 year contracts based on the last few years
Sign good players and I hope they would impact next season yes.
Fraser was a january signing. We can sign players with beyond 6 months time in mind.
Fraser was also a deadline day signing, proving you may have to wait to get the players you want.
I understand both sides' opinions regarding the transfer window but our body of work for the last two years, under the current ownership gives no crumb of comfort.
I would have no issue with Bonne or Wickham but for Wickham read Aneke and Bonne is marmite to most Charlton fans.
I doubt his record this year inspires many but face it. It's probably as good as it's going to get.
If we get a left back in and 2 forwards, we'll be better than we were.
But it's only (kind of) getting us to the bare minimum where we should have been pre season!
It is positive because it's better than what we had but nothing more.
But if Wickham, Bonne and a left back is all that happens, I could have done that effin job, no idea why we'd need Andy Scott......
We’re 19pts off 50 which should be safety and have 19 games left. I’m probably going against the grain here, but do we need to bring anyone in? Providing Leaburn isn’t sold and doesn’t get injured, I think at most, we need a forward as cover.
Between the rest of the squad, even if we offload Stockley, Mansfield & Kirk for example, I think we have enough to stay up. This isn’t me advocating there’s an appropriate level of talent, it’s still massively off being able to get us out this division, but I would rather we don’t risk bringing in another Mansfield or Aneke in Jan, just for the sake of it, thus impacting next season.
For me, getting rid of a few like Stockley, JFC, Mansfield and Kirk would be a good window. We’re not going up. We’ve probably got enough in the tank to stay up. Why not shed some of the mediocrity that’s clogged up the squad and finally, do a proper plan for 23/24? Unless something really good comes along, I think any additions with contracts until the end of the season would be a risk
We have got 3 squad spaces free. We have no cover at left back, no viable alternative at center foward or winger if any of the front 3 get knack. Even if it's just 3 loans I want those spaces.
If JRS and Sessegnon were recalled and Leaburn flogged or injured we would be up shit street.
Mad that people are already trying to justify a transfer window if we sign no one at all.
We had a rubbish squad leftover from summer, if we sign no-one we enter february with it even worse.
This in spades.
We started the season light up front, and now with Aneke breaking down even before he steps on the pitch some people don't even mind if Stockley goes and not replaced !!!!
Jesus. Some people are mad and/or delusional. Do they not have memories of what happened last season when we were playing Kanu & Burstow for 6 weeks because Washington, Stockley AND Aneke were all out injured.
What happens in Feb 2and when Leaburn pulls his hammy & us out for 2 months. Oh Yes, we go back to playing JRS & DJ up front. That worked well didnt it.
Same few people offering what ifs and ranting on about it. Rant when/if it happens or doesn't -depending on what you are winding yourselves up about. January 8 ffs.
Same few people offering what ifs and ranting on about it. Rant when/if it happens or doesn't -depending on what you are winding yourselves up about. January 8 ffs.
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When doe concern become a rant ?
I'm basically reading posts from genuine fans who, like myself, want the very best for our club within certain financial constraints and who are seriously worried that the rumours if a " new broom/s" intentions are to continue TS's stringent cutback plan.
Lifers far with more genuine info than me , including Airman, are even mentioning the possible closure of our well respected Academy ! And that any incoming in January will be loanees or freebies....
If those issues fail to set off a warning bell in your head, then so be it.
But that's not the view of the majority on here IMO.
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There is no transfer budget otherwise.
Ipswich bring in George Hirst on loan from Leicester
Now that's just being greedy when some of us haven't made one addition yet.
If JRS and Sessegnon were recalled and Leaburn flogged or injured we would be up shit street.
We had a rubbish squad leftover from summer, if we sign no-one we enter february with it even worse.
If you are seriously saying let's just get rid of players you must have rocks in your head!
But, the club needs a lift and it needs excitement and it needs momentum going into next season so I think a couple of exciting signings (Including a striker) will help lift the season and encourage the fans things are moving in the right direction and convince players in the summer that we are a good club to join.
For what it's worth I believe the original left back target is off but a different one is close and could happen tomorrow.
Also Bonne (to the end of the season) AND Wickham (18 month highly incentive based contract) are both possible.
JRS being recalled is now less likely as they were worried we would stick with 352.
Fraser was a january signing. We can sign players with beyond 6 months time in mind.
We started the season light up front, and now with Aneke breaking down even before he steps on the pitch some people don't even mind if Stockley goes and not replaced !!!!
Jesus. Some people are mad and/or delusional. Do they not have memories of what happened last season when we were playing Kanu & Burstow for 6 weeks because Washington, Stockley AND Aneke were all out injured.
What happens in Feb 2and when Leaburn pulls his hammy & us out for 2 months. Oh Yes, we go back to playing JRS & DJ up front. That worked well didnt it.
I give up.
I'm basically reading posts from genuine fans who, like myself, want the very best for our club within certain financial constraints and who are seriously worried that the rumours if a " new broom/s" intentions are to continue TS's stringent cutback plan.
Lifers far with more genuine info than me , including Airman, are even mentioning the possible closure of our well respected Academy ! And that any incoming in January will be loanees or freebies....
If those issues fail to set off a warning bell in your head, then so be it.
But that's not the view of the majority on here IMO.