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January Transfer Window - Jan 2023 (Deadline Day starts page 112)
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Who? I haven’t seen one person saying they’re happy to lose Stockley without replacing him.golfaddick said:
This in spades.SELR_addicks said:
Mad that people are already trying to justify a transfer window if we sign no one at all.Cafc43v3r said:
We have got 3 squad spaces free. We have no cover at left back, no viable alternative at center foward or winger if any of the front 3 get knack. Even if it's just 3 loans I want those spaces.cabbles said:We’re 19pts off 50 which should be safety and have 19 games left. I’m probably going against the grain here, but do we need to bring anyone in? Providing Leaburn isn’t sold and doesn’t get injured, I think at most, we need a forward as cover.Between the rest of the squad, even if we offload Stockley, Mansfield & Kirk for example, I think we have enough to stay up. This isn’t me advocating there’s an appropriate level of talent, it’s still massively off being able to get us out this division, but I would rather we don’t risk bringing in another Mansfield or Aneke in Jan, just for the sake of it, thus impacting next season.For me, getting rid of a few like Stockley, JFC, Mansfield and Kirk would be a good window. We’re not going up. We’ve probably got enough in the tank to stay up. Why not shed some of the mediocrity that’s clogged up the squad and finally, do a proper plan for 23/24? Unless something really good comes along, I think any additions with contracts until the end of the season would be a risk
If JRS and Sessegnon were recalled and Leaburn flogged or injured we would be up shit street.
We had a rubbish squad leftover from summer, if we sign no-one we enter february with it even worse.
We started the season light up front, and now with Aneke breaking down even before he steps on the pitch some people don't even mind if Stockley goes and not replaced !!!!
Jesus. Some people are mad and/or delusional. Do they not have memories of what happened last season when we were playing Kanu & Burstow for 6 weeks because Washington, Stockley AND Aneke were all out injured.
What happens in Feb 2and when Leaburn pulls his hammy & us out for 2 months. Oh Yes, we go back to playing JRS & DJ up front. That worked well didnt it.
I give up.5 -
Based on what we’ve seen over the past 2 years, I prefer to maintain low expectations from any transfer window as far as Charlton are concerned, be it 9th January or the afternoon/evening of 31st January. We’ve heard all the words before and then seen the deeds, or lack of more like. I always hope to be pleasantly surprised but……....2
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@cables did on the previous page.cafcfan1990 said:
Who? I haven’t seen one person saying they’re happy to lose Stockley without replacing him.golfaddick said:
This in spades.SELR_addicks said:
Mad that people are already trying to justify a transfer window if we sign no one at all.Cafc43v3r said:
We have got 3 squad spaces free. We have no cover at left back, no viable alternative at center foward or winger if any of the front 3 get knack. Even if it's just 3 loans I want those spaces.cabbles said:We’re 19pts off 50 which should be safety and have 19 games left. I’m probably going against the grain here, but do we need to bring anyone in? Providing Leaburn isn’t sold and doesn’t get injured, I think at most, we need a forward as cover.Between the rest of the squad, even if we offload Stockley, Mansfield & Kirk for example, I think we have enough to stay up. This isn’t me advocating there’s an appropriate level of talent, it’s still massively off being able to get us out this division, but I would rather we don’t risk bringing in another Mansfield or Aneke in Jan, just for the sake of it, thus impacting next season.For me, getting rid of a few like Stockley, JFC, Mansfield and Kirk would be a good window. We’re not going up. We’ve probably got enough in the tank to stay up. Why not shed some of the mediocrity that’s clogged up the squad and finally, do a proper plan for 23/24? Unless something really good comes along, I think any additions with contracts until the end of the season would be a risk
If JRS and Sessegnon were recalled and Leaburn flogged or injured we would be up shit street.
We had a rubbish squad leftover from summer, if we sign no-one we enter february with it even worse.
We started the season light up front, and now with Aneke breaking down even before he steps on the pitch some people don't even mind if Stockley goes and not replaced !!!!
Jesus. Some people are mad and/or delusional. Do they not have memories of what happened last season when we were playing Kanu & Burstow for 6 weeks because Washington, Stockley AND Aneke were all out injured.
What happens in Feb 2and when Leaburn pulls his hammy & us out for 2 months. Oh Yes, we go back to playing JRS & DJ up front. That worked well didnt it.
I give up.
Although he didnt actually say he'd be happy not replacing Stockley he said that he doesn't mind if Stockley goes & then in the next breath said he didnt want the players leaving to be replaced with players on 18 month / 2.5 year contracts ........implying what?? That we'd not replace Stockley like-for-like and just rely on a loan ?0 -
When the concerns are imaginary in the first place. Like 'we are not signing anybody', What's the point of creating a made up scenario and then slamming the club for it? Wait til there's a legit reason, surely?Fanny Fanackapan said:Major said:Same few people offering what ifs and ranting on about it. Rant when/if it happens or doesn't -depending on what you are winding yourselves up about. January 8 ffs.
When doe concern become a rant ??
I'm basically reading posts from genuine fans who, like myself, want the very best for our club within certain financial constraints and who are seriously worried that the rumours if a " new broom/s" intentions are to continue TS's stringent cutback plan.
Lifers far with more genuine info than me , including Airman, are even mentioning the possible closure of our well respected Academy ! And that any incoming in January will be loanees or freebies....
If those issues fail to set off a warning bell in your head, then so be it.
But that's not the view of the majority on here IMO.
Well we all have opinions. Some have agendas.3 -
I can't speak for Cabbles but I presumed they meant let's get through the season and then look to make our more major signings in the summer than January panic buys. I don't necessarily agree with that, we need to make some decent signings whenever we can. But they still didn't say anything about Stockley and not replacing him which was your initial accusation.golfaddick said:
@cables did on the previous page.cafcfan1990 said:
Who? I haven’t seen one person saying they’re happy to lose Stockley without replacing him.golfaddick said:
This in spades.SELR_addicks said:
Mad that people are already trying to justify a transfer window if we sign no one at all.Cafc43v3r said:
We have got 3 squad spaces free. We have no cover at left back, no viable alternative at center foward or winger if any of the front 3 get knack. Even if it's just 3 loans I want those spaces.cabbles said:We’re 19pts off 50 which should be safety and have 19 games left. I’m probably going against the grain here, but do we need to bring anyone in? Providing Leaburn isn’t sold and doesn’t get injured, I think at most, we need a forward as cover.Between the rest of the squad, even if we offload Stockley, Mansfield & Kirk for example, I think we have enough to stay up. This isn’t me advocating there’s an appropriate level of talent, it’s still massively off being able to get us out this division, but I would rather we don’t risk bringing in another Mansfield or Aneke in Jan, just for the sake of it, thus impacting next season.For me, getting rid of a few like Stockley, JFC, Mansfield and Kirk would be a good window. We’re not going up. We’ve probably got enough in the tank to stay up. Why not shed some of the mediocrity that’s clogged up the squad and finally, do a proper plan for 23/24? Unless something really good comes along, I think any additions with contracts until the end of the season would be a risk
If JRS and Sessegnon were recalled and Leaburn flogged or injured we would be up shit street.
We had a rubbish squad leftover from summer, if we sign no-one we enter february with it even worse.
We started the season light up front, and now with Aneke breaking down even before he steps on the pitch some people don't even mind if Stockley goes and not replaced !!!!
Jesus. Some people are mad and/or delusional. Do they not have memories of what happened last season when we were playing Kanu & Burstow for 6 weeks because Washington, Stockley AND Aneke were all out injured.
What happens in Feb 2and when Leaburn pulls his hammy & us out for 2 months. Oh Yes, we go back to playing JRS & DJ up front. That worked well didnt it.
I give up.
Although he didnt actually say he'd be happy not replacing Stockley he said that he doesn't mind if Stockley goes & then in the next breath said he didnt want the players leaving to be replaced with players on 18 month / 2.5 year contracts ........implying what?? That we'd not replace Stockley like-for-like and just rely on a loan ?0 -
Whilst i understand those saying it's still early in the window and of course it hasn't affected us yet, we have 3 more league games to play in January. Getting a couple of players in key areas in now, ahead of what will be 3 very tough games could be the difference between getting 1 point and 6-7.
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What's this obsession with bloody Ipswich, who cares about any players they sign, I don't...if, and it's a big IF and when we get going will be worth reading, hopefully 🤷♂️7
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We'll soon end up with no strikers and a pretty threadbare squad especially given our injuries.
If we approach next season in the same way it will be another struggle. Seems to be very little ambition at present.
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would take him over most others I've seen mentionedOh Eddie Youds... said:2 -
Elthamaddick said:
would take him over most others I've seen mentionedOh Eddie Youds... said:
Could see it happening- they've got Chaplin,Hirst,John-Jules, Jackson , Adhame and Ladapo now so could see Ladapo being allowed to leave.0 - Sponsored links:
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Come out of that with 9 or 10 points and we are back in the mix.killerandflash said:
Our next 4 games are Barnsley, Posh, Bolton and Exeter. Come out of that run with say just 2 or 3 points, and the gap to the bottom 4 will close.BigRedEvil said:We're 9 points above relegation, we're unlikely to get dragged in to a scrap and unlikely to make the play offs. No rush to bring players in now imo
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In my original post I did say at most, we need a forward for cover of Stockley goes. Cafc43 pointed out losing Rak Saki and Sessegnon would also leave us exposed as well, he has a point. My main issue is that I don’t trust us to bring in the right players if we offer anything other than contracts till the end of the season.cafcfan1990 said:
I can't speak for Cabbles but I presumed they meant let's get through the season and then look to make our more major signings in the summer than January panic buys. I don't necessarily agree with that, we need to make some decent signings whenever we can. But they still didn't say anything about Stockley and not replacing him which was your initial accusation.golfaddick said:
@cables did on the previous page.cafcfan1990 said:
Who? I haven’t seen one person saying they’re happy to lose Stockley without replacing him.golfaddick said:
This in spades.SELR_addicks said:
Mad that people are already trying to justify a transfer window if we sign no one at all.Cafc43v3r said:
We have got 3 squad spaces free. We have no cover at left back, no viable alternative at center foward or winger if any of the front 3 get knack. Even if it's just 3 loans I want those spaces.cabbles said:We’re 19pts off 50 which should be safety and have 19 games left. I’m probably going against the grain here, but do we need to bring anyone in? Providing Leaburn isn’t sold and doesn’t get injured, I think at most, we need a forward as cover.Between the rest of the squad, even if we offload Stockley, Mansfield & Kirk for example, I think we have enough to stay up. This isn’t me advocating there’s an appropriate level of talent, it’s still massively off being able to get us out this division, but I would rather we don’t risk bringing in another Mansfield or Aneke in Jan, just for the sake of it, thus impacting next season.For me, getting rid of a few like Stockley, JFC, Mansfield and Kirk would be a good window. We’re not going up. We’ve probably got enough in the tank to stay up. Why not shed some of the mediocrity that’s clogged up the squad and finally, do a proper plan for 23/24? Unless something really good comes along, I think any additions with contracts until the end of the season would be a risk
If JRS and Sessegnon were recalled and Leaburn flogged or injured we would be up shit street.
We had a rubbish squad leftover from summer, if we sign no-one we enter february with it even worse.
We started the season light up front, and now with Aneke breaking down even before he steps on the pitch some people don't even mind if Stockley goes and not replaced !!!!
Jesus. Some people are mad and/or delusional. Do they not have memories of what happened last season when we were playing Kanu & Burstow for 6 weeks because Washington, Stockley AND Aneke were all out injured.
What happens in Feb 2and when Leaburn pulls his hammy & us out for 2 months. Oh Yes, we go back to playing JRS & DJ up front. That worked well didnt it.
I give up.
Although he didnt actually say he'd be happy not replacing Stockley he said that he doesn't mind if Stockley goes & then in the next breath said he didnt want the players leaving to be replaced with players on 18 month / 2.5 year contracts ........implying what?? That we'd not replace Stockley like-for-like and just rely on a loan ?
my reasons are
We’ve probably got enough to stay up, although I take people’s points about being exposed in certain positions.The club is still a s***show. We don’t know what direction we’re headed after this season, with Holden only appointed until the end of the season, I think that Scott fella is only here until the end of Jan. In our current state, we’re not set up for long term signings imo
Do you trust our recruitment process based on the last 2 Jan windows? Stockley, Mansfield, Schwartz, Aneke - even though some of you may point to Fraser, he’s hardly set the world alight, and although he’s scored in the last 2 games, people have a very short term reactionary view of our players. All Aneke had to do against Exeter was come on and score, he’s being branded a cheat code. Look at him now. We don’t know if we’ve finally got the player we all thought we had, just because Fraser has scored 2 goals in the last 2 games. We have had a failed transfer policy for the last few years, handing out long contracts and wages like 5k a week to Stockley, who’s on the verge of joining Gillingham. If you don’t think we’ve had a failed transfer policy then look at our league position and some of the dross you’ve had to watch
We need a proper reset. Jettisoning players like Stockley, Kirk, JFC and whoever else, could be just as important as who we sign. We’re in this mess because the likes of Aneke, Mansfield etc are contracted to 2024. If we do have potential owners coming in, getting rid of underperformers sends a good message.
Lastly, Jan windows are notoriously hard to do decent business in for most clubs, even those well run.On those points, I wouldn’t be too fussed if the window was one where the mediocrity is moved on, and all we got were short term deals as cover (if needed).
Some of you may see it differently, I understand that0 -
Just to cheer you up Aneke is here to 2025.cabbles said:
In my original post I did say at most, we need a forward for cover of Stockley goes. Cafc43 pointed out losing Rak Saki and Sessegnon would also leave us exposed as well, he has a point. My main issue is that I don’t trust us to bring in the right players if we offer anything other than contracts till the end of the season.cafcfan1990 said:
I can't speak for Cabbles but I presumed they meant let's get through the season and then look to make our more major signings in the summer than January panic buys. I don't necessarily agree with that, we need to make some decent signings whenever we can. But they still didn't say anything about Stockley and not replacing him which was your initial accusation.golfaddick said:
@cables did on the previous page.cafcfan1990 said:
Who? I haven’t seen one person saying they’re happy to lose Stockley without replacing him.golfaddick said:
This in spades.SELR_addicks said:
Mad that people are already trying to justify a transfer window if we sign no one at all.Cafc43v3r said:
We have got 3 squad spaces free. We have no cover at left back, no viable alternative at center foward or winger if any of the front 3 get knack. Even if it's just 3 loans I want those spaces.cabbles said:We’re 19pts off 50 which should be safety and have 19 games left. I’m probably going against the grain here, but do we need to bring anyone in? Providing Leaburn isn’t sold and doesn’t get injured, I think at most, we need a forward as cover.Between the rest of the squad, even if we offload Stockley, Mansfield & Kirk for example, I think we have enough to stay up. This isn’t me advocating there’s an appropriate level of talent, it’s still massively off being able to get us out this division, but I would rather we don’t risk bringing in another Mansfield or Aneke in Jan, just for the sake of it, thus impacting next season.For me, getting rid of a few like Stockley, JFC, Mansfield and Kirk would be a good window. We’re not going up. We’ve probably got enough in the tank to stay up. Why not shed some of the mediocrity that’s clogged up the squad and finally, do a proper plan for 23/24? Unless something really good comes along, I think any additions with contracts until the end of the season would be a risk
If JRS and Sessegnon were recalled and Leaburn flogged or injured we would be up shit street.
We had a rubbish squad leftover from summer, if we sign no-one we enter february with it even worse.
We started the season light up front, and now with Aneke breaking down even before he steps on the pitch some people don't even mind if Stockley goes and not replaced !!!!
Jesus. Some people are mad and/or delusional. Do they not have memories of what happened last season when we were playing Kanu & Burstow for 6 weeks because Washington, Stockley AND Aneke were all out injured.
What happens in Feb 2and when Leaburn pulls his hammy & us out for 2 months. Oh Yes, we go back to playing JRS & DJ up front. That worked well didnt it.
I give up.
Although he didnt actually say he'd be happy not replacing Stockley he said that he doesn't mind if Stockley goes & then in the next breath said he didnt want the players leaving to be replaced with players on 18 month / 2.5 year contracts ........implying what?? That we'd not replace Stockley like-for-like and just rely on a loan ?
my reasons are
We’ve probably got enough to stay up, although I take people’s points about being exposed in certain positions.The club is still a s***show. We don’t know what direction we’re headed after this season, with Holden only appointed until the end of the season, I think that Scott fella is only here until the end of Jan. In our current state, we’re not set up for long term signings imo
Do you trust our recruitment process based on the last 2 Jan windows? Stockley, Mansfield, Schwartz, Aneke - even though some of you may point to Fraser, he’s hardly set the world alight, and although he’s scored in the last 2 games, people have a very short term reactionary view of our players. All Aneke had to do against Exeter was come on and score, he’s being branded a cheat code. Look at him now. We don’t know if we’ve finally got the player we all thought we had, just because Fraser has scored 2 goals in the last 2 games. We have had a failed transfer policy for the last few years, handing out long contracts and wages like 5k a week to Stockley, who’s on the verge of joining Gillingham. If you don’t think we’ve had a failed transfer policy then look at our league position and some of the dross you’ve had to watch
We need a proper reset. Jettisoning players like Stockley, Kirk, JFC and whoever else, could be just as important as who we sign. We’re in this mess because the likes of Aneke, Mansfield etc are contracted to 2024. If we do have potential owners coming in, getting rid of underperformers sends a good message.
Lastly, Jan windows are notoriously hard to do decent business in for most clubs, even those well run.On those points, I wouldn’t be too fussed if the window was one where the mediocrity is moved on, and all we got were short term deals as cover (if needed).
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Exactly. Ipswich in recent years always seem to sign about 20 players a season.eastterrace6168 said:What's this obsession with bloody Ipswich, who cares about any players they sign, I don't...if, and it's a big IF and when we get going will be worth reading, hopefully 🤷♂️
They've been a Third Division club all that time.
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I said weeks ago that this window is not the best for recruitment, but we clearly a few players across the team.
The last 2 wins take a little pressure off, but the real story is about the sale of the club.
Will we keep Leaburn? Will Stockley be replaced with a striker who can score a few?
Club is a mess with TS in charge and until he sells and someone rids us of RD, it will remain a mess.
I'm still not hopeful this window will bring any real change.
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I'd rather bring in 2/3 permanent of real quality for next season rather than 5/6 crap frees and loans11
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I'm now certain one was due to complete last week and pulled out last minute.
No name, just a forward player (could be a winger or a striker).
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Isn’t the real story trying to escape relegation?0
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Do think people are massively overplaying our chances of going down. We're crap but we aren't in the worst 4 teams in this tinpot league17
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I think you would have to pay a bit of a premium to sign people on long term deals. We ended up top heavy with center mids, and short in other areas but that was more down to arrogance and incompetence.Pelling1993 said:I'd rather bring in 2/3 permanent of real quality for next season rather than 5/6 crap frees and loans
Of there is a different take over to the one that's pending they might want to bring their own manager in who might not fancy the players we have just signed. Alternatively there might be no take over and we could be lumbered with more long term contracts.
Fill the obvious gaps first, get safe, plan for next season from March.
We won't go down with what we have got, unless we have more injuries to key players. Or the 2 loans are recalled.
We will have more injuries. Its not impossible.8 -
Hope you’re right but I think it’s fancifulCafcSCP said:
Come out of that with 9 or 10 points and we are back in the mix.killerandflash said:
Our next 4 games are Barnsley, Posh, Bolton and Exeter. Come out of that run with say just 2 or 3 points, and the gap to the bottom 4 will close.BigRedEvil said:We're 9 points above relegation, we're unlikely to get dragged in to a scrap and unlikely to make the play offs. No rush to bring players in now imo0 -
Is this based off any info you have or just guesswork?Dazzler21 said:I'm now certain one was due to complete last week and pulled out last minute.
No name, just a forward player (could be a winger or a striker).0 -
Despite buying 20 players a season they still managed to get a slower centre back partnership than Inniss and Lavelle in Woolfenden and Keogh. That takes some doing.Oggy Red said:
Exactly. Ipswich in recent years always seem to sign about 20 players a season.eastterrace6168 said:What's this obsession with bloody Ipswich, who cares about any players they sign, I don't...if, and it's a big IF and when we get going will be worth reading, hopefully 🤷♂️
They've been a Third Division club all that time.4 -
JRS's form drops off again, Kirk continues being Kirk, CBT picks up an injury and has to start his consistency from scratch again, the midfield trio of Dobson, Fraser and Morgan (that looked great a few weeks back) becomes shite again, Inniss continues his form of league one's best defender/ top serial killer and suddenly we're back flirting with a relegation battle.
Yes we've had two great back to back wins but let's not kid ourselves that we don't need much work to do this window.
Now, announce Bonne and the palace loanee we have/haven't signed 😊4 -
They only started signing all the best L1 players last season…..& this year they are consequently looking nailed on for promotion.Oggy Red said:
Exactly. Ipswich in recent years always seem to sign about 20 players a season.eastterrace6168 said:What's this obsession with bloody Ipswich, who cares about any players they sign, I don't...if, and it's a big IF and when we get going will be worth reading, hopefully 🤷♂️
They've been a Third Division club all that time.
I’d personally say their strategy has been a success.3 -
We're a pretty poor side and have been amongst the worst teams of late. There are certainly teams with worse squads.Pelling1993 said:Do think people are massively overplaying our chances of going down. We're crap but we aren't in the worst 4 teams in this tinpot league
Our defence needs strengthening.3 -
On paper no but a few injuries/suspensions or a bad run of form and we could very easily be sucked back in.Pelling1993 said:Do think people are massively overplaying our chances of going down. We're crap but we aren't in the worst 4 teams in this tinpot league1 -
If if's and but's were candy and nuts, we'd all be a lot better off...🤷♂️0
