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Peterborough United vs Charlton Athletic | Saturday 21st January 2023 | Match Preview - GAME OFF
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So, is this now the Postpostponedmatch thread...😉7
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They can go F themselves. I kept a close eye on the forecast - it was -2 for a few hours this morning and obviously low either side. I do Parkruns on Saturdays and lots of amateurs read the forecasts and postponed Saturday parkruns with 12+ hours notice because ice.ForeverAddickted said:Gonna be an investigation from Peterborough
https://www.theposh.com/news/club-investigate-postponement
I travelled north in good faith, with a local Peterborough article in mind saying "there is no chance of postponement '. See the Peterborough thread for the link. I bought a train ticket as late as possible then met 3 mates, who brought 3 kids. It's even more unfair on them.
So, it was predictable and very avoidable. If it's -2 overnight and one stand covers the pitch the first pitch inspection should NOT be 13:30.
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Lift the carpet and brush!!! The information from our club and the referee together with the cover up by Peterborough should be sent to the EFL to decide whether posh failed to take sensible precautions and caused financial loss to supporters and CAFC. Penalty to be decided on level of fault by Peterborough. Over £100k financial loss by supporters and CAFC they should replay the game at the Valley and pay for their own fans to travelForeverAddickted said:Gonna be an investigation from Peterborough
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There are three stakeholders in the decision to decide whether a EFL game is off or on - one isnt "a local referee"!!MuttleyCAFC said:What you do if you are a proper club is get a local ref to have a look in the morning if the match ref isn't there. They actually announced all was fine. They should at least be made to refund the costs of our fans and indeed their ones too.
There was nothing unpredictable about the weather. In fact the sun has been glaring and bright since this morning.
First, the senior stadium official for health and safety. He/she to decide whether conditions inside and immediately outside are safe (no snow/ice, as an example).
Secondly, the Police Office in charge of the game for the day; responsible for internal customer control and responsible for external approaches to the game being safe (usually snow/ice impact upon travelling).
The match referee, being responsible for the safety of players on the physical pitch.
Having said all that, I am surprised that a pitch inspection wasn't made earlier in the morning. I would not know whether the club failed to advise the match referee earlier that there could be some doubt about the match proceeding or whether the match referee should take some responsibility for a late pitch inspection.4 -
Can us fans get our money back for match tickets?0
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Yes see my post for your attention on previous page😉Karim_myBagheri said:Can us fans get our money back for match tickets?0 -
Usually after a postponement you have the option to get a refund or use them for the rearranged fixture.Karim_myBagheri said:Can us fans get our money back for match tickets?
As the rearranged fixture is likely to be midweek it’s likely a few hundred fans won’t be able to make it & will need a refund.0 -
Just got home, I don’t usually let things get to me but I’m fuming over that late postponement. Peterborough should face some punishment over that.9
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1 point deduction for Posh, free coach transport for our fans for the rearranged game, £30 each for travel and expenses for our lot that went today and we beat them up there midweek in the rearranged game.
None of these things will happen of course, particularly the last one..0 -
There really needs to be a shake up of the 'is it on or off' assessments .. I'd favour games being called off on the Friday evening/ day before the game is due if there is a lot of doubt .. weather forecasts are very accurate nowadays and it would be sensible to pay heed of them and not wait until 1/2 an hour before kick off to make a decision.
Local referees should asses the state of the pitch and surrounding streets, terraces etc on the evening before the game and if there is ANY doubt, the game needs to be postponed
This might not save money spent on advance train fares or hotels but it would prevent wasted travel and extra expenditure. I'll wager that if this regime were in place, far more games that should have been called off will be called off than the reverse
This might mean smaller clubs losing revenue through wasted catering supplies (local food banks would love them as a gift) and security, programme printing etc, but that would happen if the game were called off 24 hours or 10 minutes before kick off time. There will still be income of course when the game is eventually played4 - Sponsored links:
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No one knew that at the time though. The fact is we were all in Peterborough and the only person letting us know what was happening was Louis.ValleyGary said:
So the Charlton comms team should cop the blame when they’ve done fuck all wrong. Sounds fair…..KBslittlesis said:Can we all just cut people a bit of slack?
Folk are angry & they’re lashing out verbally. It’s the virtual equivalent of going home and kicking the cat.
Do we really have to make them feel worse by pointing out they’re blaming the wrong people? Not really going to make them feel better is it, when they’re out of pocket with feck all to show for it.
If you’re gonna publicly vent on a social media platform, at least direct it in the right way.
Any one still giving them grief is clearly a wally, but the radio silence until the actual postponement was annoying.4 -
Going from Louis original tweets, and subsequently Holden’s comments, it sounds like there was literally a 20 - 40 minute window when all of the sudden the ref turned up and saw the pitch and decided to call it off.Croydon said:
No one knew that at the time though. The fact is we were all in Peterborough and the only person letting us know what was happening was Louis.ValleyGary said:
So the Charlton comms team should cop the blame when they’ve done fuck all wrong. Sounds fair…..KBslittlesis said:Can we all just cut people a bit of slack?
Folk are angry & they’re lashing out verbally. It’s the virtual equivalent of going home and kicking the cat.
Do we really have to make them feel worse by pointing out they’re blaming the wrong people? Not really going to make them feel better is it, when they’re out of pocket with feck all to show for it.
If you’re gonna publicly vent on a social media platform, at least direct it in the right way.
Any one still giving them grief is clearly a wally, but the radio silence until the actual postponement was annoying.
This was not a pre planned inspection because Peterborough said one was not needed.
It took me 10 seconds to google ‘Peterborough FC’ to find the news article saying that it wouldn’t be an issue and the game would go ahead, and a further 10 seconds to look at Louis tweets and have an educated guess that everything happened very quickly.
I can’t believe people are using the guise of ‘fans are angry’, or ‘they didn’t know’ as an excuse to justify verbal abuse towards individuals who had nothing to do with the shit show today.
I worked in a front of house role for a period of time and no wonder it was a miserable experience.4 -
Absolutely piss poor decision made at last minue. Posh reassured everyone game would go ahead and I apologise for telling supporters it would be on. The club is an embarressment.2
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I thought the ref had initially said it needed an inspection at midday?FishCostaFortune said:
Going from Louis original tweets, and subsequently Holden’s comments, it sounds like there was literally a 20 - 40 minute window when all of the sudden the ref turned up and saw the pitch and decided to call it off.Croydon said:
No one knew that at the time though. The fact is we were all in Peterborough and the only person letting us know what was happening was Louis.ValleyGary said:
So the Charlton comms team should cop the blame when they’ve done fuck all wrong. Sounds fair…..KBslittlesis said:Can we all just cut people a bit of slack?
Folk are angry & they’re lashing out verbally. It’s the virtual equivalent of going home and kicking the cat.
Do we really have to make them feel worse by pointing out they’re blaming the wrong people? Not really going to make them feel better is it, when they’re out of pocket with feck all to show for it.
If you’re gonna publicly vent on a social media platform, at least direct it in the right way.
Any one still giving them grief is clearly a wally, but the radio silence until the actual postponement was annoying.
This was not a pre planned inspection because Peterborough said one was not needed.
It took me 10 seconds to google ‘Peterborough FC’ to find the news article saying that it wouldn’t be an issue and the game would go ahead, and a further 10 seconds to look at Louis tweets and have an educated guess that everything happened very quickly.
I can’t believe people are using the guise of ‘fans are angry’, or ‘they didn’t know’ as an excuse to justify verbal abuse towards individuals who had nothing to do with the shit show today.
I worked in a front of house role for a period of time and no wonder it was a miserable experience.
Not saying the verbal abuse is OK, it isn't. I just don't feel communication was handled well.0 -
Funny enough I suspect he is directly responsible for 90% of my "ITK" stuff. No wonder it's normally wrong! But he can't keep his mouth shut.PragueAddick said:Is the gobby twat who owns Posh still on Twitter? If so I have a number of observations to make to him.While I’m at it I will accuse him of being behind the Fraser tweets midweek. I’ve no proof of that, but he’s a gobby twat, so If you live by the sword…
Loves talking to agents. Not sure if it's stupidity, needing to be relevant or what but he will happily tell anyone anything.1 -
Funny fact, there is a Springfield in everyone of the lower states. Which is why Springfield, of Simpson's fame, is called Springfield.blackpool72 said:
Springfield you say.SDAddick said:
And I'll just say that our back garden here in Springfield, OR is a little muddy, but they could still play on it.Gribbo said:
The green out the front of ours in sunny Reigate is nice and moist and I can run the Flymo over it in 20 minutes -SDAddick said:OK, so the real crime here is not finding a new venue. We've got a garden in Herts. We've got a local park where someone walked their dog. I know a couple of parks in Norwich that get some sun so should be fine. WHY DIDN'T THE POSH THINK OF THIS SOONER?!?!?!
So we're up to, what, six venues now?
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I remember Andy D' Urso postponing a home match of ours against Southampton (on Boxing Day I think) with bugger all notice some years back. Everyone had arrived or set off at least as the postponement was announced so late.
Football clubs don't give a f**k about the fans. The negative attitude to fans charters etc is a small tangible example.0 -
Listen to the DH interview and it says all you need to know about who is ultimately to blame.3
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One of the things that should come out of this is that the Premier League and EFL should instruct all referees that if there is any doubt on the weather he must turn up and do an early morning inspection of the pitch and if there is any doubt call the game off then. There are too many occasions on which a Ref turns up 2 hours or so before the kickoff and calls the game off then. I remember a Boxing Day home game we played against Southampton some years back when the ref called the game off at 10:30 with a 12:30 Kick Off, long after the Southampton fans, and indeed some of ours were travelling to the game. That is unacceptable.1
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The ref was indeed there at 12:00 for a pitch inspection, however apparently according to Holden when we rang the club secretary at around that time, they said there was not one happening.Croydon said:
I thought the ref had initially said it needed an inspection at midday?FishCostaFortune said:
Going from Louis original tweets, and subsequently Holden’s comments, it sounds like there was literally a 20 - 40 minute window when all of the sudden the ref turned up and saw the pitch and decided to call it off.Croydon said:
No one knew that at the time though. The fact is we were all in Peterborough and the only person letting us know what was happening was Louis.ValleyGary said:
So the Charlton comms team should cop the blame when they’ve done fuck all wrong. Sounds fair…..KBslittlesis said:Can we all just cut people a bit of slack?
Folk are angry & they’re lashing out verbally. It’s the virtual equivalent of going home and kicking the cat.
Do we really have to make them feel worse by pointing out they’re blaming the wrong people? Not really going to make them feel better is it, when they’re out of pocket with feck all to show for it.
If you’re gonna publicly vent on a social media platform, at least direct it in the right way.
Any one still giving them grief is clearly a wally, but the radio silence until the actual postponement was annoying.
This was not a pre planned inspection because Peterborough said one was not needed.
It took me 10 seconds to google ‘Peterborough FC’ to find the news article saying that it wouldn’t be an issue and the game would go ahead, and a further 10 seconds to look at Louis tweets and have an educated guess that everything happened very quickly.
I can’t believe people are using the guise of ‘fans are angry’, or ‘they didn’t know’ as an excuse to justify verbal abuse towards individuals who had nothing to do with the shit show today.
I worked in a front of house role for a period of time and no wonder it was a miserable experience.
Not saying the verbal abuse is OK, it isn't. I just don't feel communication was handled well.
Holden only spoke to the ref at around 13:20 when he got to ground, and that is when he found out that he had actually planned an earlier inspection.
So either the ref didn’t tell Peterborough he was going to do this, or Peterborough lied.
Either way, I really fail to see what really the comms team could have done in that situation.
What do you think would have been a good example of communication from our comms team here?
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The best thing we should do as fans is make sure we are up there en mass for the rearranged fixture and get behind the team .Holden will fire the players up with how posh have taken the piss out of our fans, and we can make it a really great atmosphere for the team .5
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Don't want no posh dudes on my patch!SDAddick said:
And I'll just say that our back garden here in Springfield, OR is a little muddy, but they could still play on it.Gribbo said:
The green out the front of ours in sunny Reigate is nice and moist and I can run the Flymo over it in 20 minutes -SDAddick said:OK, so the real crime here is not finding a new venue. We've got a garden in Herts. We've got a local park where someone walked their dog. I know a couple of parks in Norwich that get some sun so should be fine. WHY DIDN'T THE POSH THINK OF THIS SOONER?!?!?!
So we're up to, what, six venues now?
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They are playing a training game on the pitch at the moment apparently...0
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Entirely down to Peterborough. If they had indicated that the pitch might be a problem, the referee or another local official would have arrived much earlier to do an early inspection. Like all the other clubs who called off games this morning.0
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We should be awarded the game 3-0. 3 goals for Stockley and 3 assists for Kirk, to increase their transfer value.5
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They are training on the half of the ground that isn’t frozen . Holden said that one half was rock hard and unplayableButtleJR said:They are playing a training game on the pitch at the moment apparently...0 -
They have been reassuring everyone all week that game was not in doubt. Its farcical.killerandflash said:Entirely down to Peterborough. If they had indicated that the pitch might be a problem, the referee or another local official would have arrived much earlier to do an early inspection. Like all the other clubs who called off games this morning.1 -
Exactly. Similarly if there were any doubt on the Friday they could have got a local ref in then. Let’s not forget the match ref could live many miles away so can’t just pop round for a quick pitch inspection. This is entirely down to Peterborough and their ground staff.killerandflash said:Entirely down to Peterborough. If they had indicated that the pitch might be a problem, the referee or another local official would have arrived much earlier to do an early inspection. Like all the other clubs who called off games this morning.1 -
This is exactly the contempt that clubs treat supporters. They want your money and they could not give a shite about you.1
