I know its water under the bridge and afew years back and different owners.But should we have kept Phil Parnkinson a bit longer.He seems to have done well since he left.
He left Charlton almost 12 years ago now and has managed Bradford , Bolton , Sunderland and Wrexham since. Our problems since he left are the owners not the managers . Having said all that i'd welcome him back but i don't expect he'd come near us with a barge pole.
Parrkinson did the best he could with the limited resources available. The longest non winning run in Charlton’s history, only broken by an enjoyable 1-0 defeat of Palace. Decent person but terrible football (I know, no better than much of went after).
Given Charlton’s continued ownership dysfunction - , there is no way on earth he would leave a well resourced Wrexham. Wrexham, who at their current trajectory, & Charlton via Duchatelet greed / Sangaard delusion & ineptness / Methven gamble creek - could easily bypass Charlton in a couple of enjoyable promotion seasons. This particular if the alleged US billionaire or other suitable takeover doesn’t happen.
If the situation turns around & Charlton do surprisingly get a decent takeover then I would want to stick with Dean Holden, who is doing a great job under the current constrained circumstances. I would trust Holden if there was money to spend.
I do wish Parkinson well though and don't begrudge
him a decent go, with a club with funds. He has managed a lot of difficult
situations with clubs with no money
He wasn’t a bad manager for us once he he got the job, however he got the job because the club couldn’t afford to sack him along with Pardew. The club said before he was appointed, they would do so, depending on results. That being the case, he shouldn’t have got it.
The better the players you have the better a manager seems. Chris Powell struggled with the same players that Parkinson had. That why after the Dagenham defeat and Chris Powell was told he didn't know what he was doing, a total rebuilt took place in the summer. The rest is history.
Phil Parkinson probably needs to get Wrexham up as Champions or at least win the Playoffs. He won't be there next season if Wrexham are still in the National League.
He was a decent bloke and a decent manager, who steadied a horrendously sinking ship under Pardew and made the club start looking back up instead of down. Not wholly dissimilar in character to Holden. Had real time for the fans.
A couple of days before a Milwall game, he was in Bluewater doing some Christmas shopping and I just said 'hi' going past and wished him luck for the game and he stopped and chatted to me for 20-30 minutes all about Charlton and football in general.
I believe we were still in the play offs when he left. Time has moved on and getting Powell in was clearly right for our club, but I will always remember him for being one of the good guys. As you say, his record since has been very respectable.
He had more of the season and had a worse ppg record than Pardew when we went down with the most pathetic of seasons and he would have known the players because he was Pardews assistant . He then chose , mistakenly Rob Elliot over Randolph and we were sliding out of the play offs before an injury to Elliot (I think against Gillingham) got Randy back in as no.1 and helped push us back up the table . Didn’t know how to get the best out of Jonjo Shelvey for us and didn’t pick him when he was already showing he was gonna be decent for us . Nice bloke , wrong club and probably wrong time . Should never have been given the job permanently ‘based on results’ .
Parkinson did badly for us in the Championship and then pretty well in L1 given how dreadful the squad was. Powell couldn't do a thing with the squad he inherited from Parky - a lot of our fans forget how much he struggled.
A decent guy who has always had to work with limited resources.
echo all the sentiments, shouldn't have been made permanent but what a man and really cared about us. I remember feeling really bad for him after he got sacked, he was a pundit when we were on sky a week or two after, kept stopping himself saying "we" when talking about charlton and you could see that hurt him.
Parky was a make do manager. He could come in, get next to no budget, have some poor players to deal with and get a bit out of them by playing simple football. It’s true that Powell struggled with the same players, but a big part of that was Powell trying to enforce a new, more difficult way of playing on what he had to see who was worth keeping. As it turned out, basically no-one. Jackson was the only true first teamer in what Powell had, with Waggy as - in Powell’s mind - a back up. At the time we had Parky though we really did need a manager who could get something out of very little so he kept us going until Powell could come in and I remember him positively for that. One thing I will say is we definitely had players under Parkinson who I view as a lot worse than what we have now and we were threatening the playoffs a lot more then than we currently are. Who would trade Leaburn for Abbott or McCormack for Dobson in their ‘prime’?
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Our problems since he left are the owners not the managers . Having said all that i'd welcome him back but i don't expect he'd come near us with a barge pole.
Also is this a club record or close to the record?
It was bizarre that Parky got the job after a terrible spell as caretaker. Maybe it was cheaper than paying him off as well?
He did do well the next season though to be fair,
I like Parky as a person and always pleased to see him have some success but it was right to let him go when we did.
I wouldn't have swapped the Powell season to find out if Parky could have done better, he had enough time with us.
That why after the Dagenham defeat and Chris Powell was told he didn't know what he was doing, a total rebuilt took place in the summer. The rest is history.
Phil Parkinson probably needs to get Wrexham up as Champions or at least win the Playoffs.
He won't be there next season if Wrexham are still in the National League.
A couple of days before a Milwall game, he was in Bluewater doing some Christmas shopping and I just said 'hi' going past and wished him luck for the game and he stopped and chatted to me for 20-30 minutes all about Charlton and football in general.
I believe we were still in the play offs when he left. Time has moved on and getting Powell in was clearly right for our club, but I will always remember him for being one of the good guys. As you say, his record since has been very respectable.
Probably cos he weren't like Pardew telling them how great they were, but point being that
Most players often have different views of managers.
He then chose , mistakenly Rob Elliot over Randolph and we were sliding out of the play offs before an injury to Elliot (I think against Gillingham) got Randy back in as no.1 and helped push us back up the table .
Didn’t know how to get the best out of Jonjo Shelvey for us and didn’t pick him when he was already showing he was gonna be decent for us .
Nice bloke , wrong club and probably wrong time .
Should never have been given the job permanently ‘based on results’ .
A decent guy who has always had to work with limited resources.