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What players realistically would you want at Charlton next year...

king addick
king addick Posts: 3,702
edited March 2023 in General Charlton
Curious for peoples views but watching the Forest Green game, I wouldnt mind us taking Charlie Savage on loan next year. Looks a decent talent and can really get up & down the pitch.

Whats other people thinking?
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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,324
    My knowledge of the lower leagues is rubbish these days.

    Need to get back to playing Football Manager more, used to be so much more aware of players (name not necessarily their talent) when playing that a lot more - Was looking at the top scorers from League Two the other day, and was a bit disappointed to see most are in their thirties now.

    Macauley Longstaff is probably an obvious name, but bet there are fans from 72-clubs who are thinking the same.

    Wont be surprised if he goes direct to the Championship.
  • bolloxbolder
    bolloxbolder Posts: 7,964
    The number 8 for Accrington, Lee, looked really good a couple of weeks ago and I see he is their top scorer, despite being a midfielder.

    Always like Ronan Curtis at Pompey. Got a bit of John Robinson about him, attitude wise.
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,027
    Sorry King Addick, I can't answer that question because the word 'realistically' has totally thrown me. I'm afraid I don't pay much attention to individual players at a level that's realistic for Charlton.  All I can talk about are the obvious ones I see in from of me every week. I'd defiantly want to hold on to Maynard-Brewer, Dobson and Leaburn. I'd be quite happy to hang on to Blackett-Taylor, Clare, Hector and Fraser. I guess that Rak-Sakyi will be plying his trade in The Championship next season, in which case I'm hoping that that's with his contracted team ;). The rest I'm probably not that fussed about.  As for anyone coming in, I think the priority is a goalscorer, but whoever we get I want players who are willing and able to play to a decent level for the vast bulk of the season. I'm tired of us signing injured and inconsistent players. I want to know that every match we're going to put up a fight. 
  • LTKapal
    LTKapal Posts: 1,312
    bolloxbolder said:


    Always like Ronan Curtis at Pompey. Got a bit of John Robinson about him, attitude wise.
    Contrary, he gives me Charlie Kirk vibes
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,041
    LTKapal said:
    bolloxbolder said:


    Always like Ronan Curtis at Pompey. Got a bit of John Robinson about him, attitude wise.
    Contrary, he gives me Charlie Kirk vibes

    I'm not convinced about Curtis either , not sure he'd be any better than what we have. 
  • Lewis Coaches
    Lewis Coaches Posts: 5,408
    Anyone who is willing to give 100 percent and fight hard for his place in the side.
    Dont give a monkeys what else happens on the pitch just show you care.
  • charltonnick
    charltonnick Posts: 3,063
    Is this the latest idea of the recruitment team , ditch the black box and ask Charlton Life  :/
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,256
    Gilbey 
  • MartinCAFC
    MartinCAFC Posts: 3,221
    Good targets to aim for are players who made it into the League One & Two teams of the year, team's player of the year and young player of the year, captains, players who played 30+ games. Obvious but players who scored goals this season not someone from 2+ seasons ago. Free agents that fans would want to keep at there club, can't really name the players to fill these criteria but pretty sure a lot of the Chris Powell summer 2011 signings came from the above criteria.
  • Fortune 82nd Minute
    Fortune 82nd Minute Posts: 8,339
    cabbles said:
    Gilbey 
    And his mate at Stevenage, Forster-Caskey.

    Those 2 with Dobson would be a decent midfield 3.
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  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,730
    edited March 2023
    The thing is, we need a squad so maybe there is a place for certain players as part of that. But we need to bring in better. An example is Morgan. It has looked like it is time for him to go but he could be a useful squad player and we are not going to get any money out of him. I'm sure Holden will have some tough decisions to make.
  • Stefco
    Stefco Posts: 848
    Leaburn
    Hector
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    Lewis Coaches said:
    Anyone who is willing to give 100 percent and fight hard for his place in the side.
    Dont give a monkeys what else happens on the pitch just show you care.
    This
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    MartinCAFC said:
    Good targets to aim for are players who made it into the League One & Two teams of the year, team's player of the year and young player of the year, captains, players who played 30+ games. Obvious but players who scored goals this season not someone from 2+ seasons ago. Free agents that fans would want to keep at there club, can't really name the players to fill these criteria but pretty sure a lot of the Chris Powell summer 2011 signings came from the above criteria.
    You mean like Kirk, Lavelle, McGrandles, MacGillivray, O'Connell, Gilbey?

    There is no criteria that's anything close to sure fire success, else everyone would try and sign exactly the same players.

    Morrison and Yann are two examples of players who's previous clubs fans would have "driven them here themselves".  BWP had only shown any real goal scoring form for 4 months before we signed him.

    You wont ever get the recruitment right until the manager gets a significant input in to, not necessarily whom, but what he wants.  Especially at league 1 level you need to be very clear on what you want the player to do, not just that he is a decent player.


  • Richard J
    Richard J Posts: 8,033
    edited March 2023
    Ever since I was young and saw Phil Walker tear us apart for Millwall in the 70's I have always kept an eye on opposition players who play well against us, I agree with @kingaddick that Charlie Savage looked excellent against us for FGR and would be a good addition next season if we could get him.

    In goal AMB and Wollacott are too good to be competing for the gloves in L1. Reluctantly I think Jo Jo needs to move on.If so we would possibly need a Premier League sub to push AMB next season as I don't think Harness would be a number 2. He needs regular games.Maybe a loan?

    In defence I feel Egbo and Kane could be good options at Right Back if both can prove their fitness. At Left Back we need two options. Maybe one that could cover LCB and a LWB. Central Defence I want to see Hector resign and would consider Inniss and Thomas depending on budget and othet cover options.

    Midfield. What happens with Albie? Personally I think it might be time to part company. He needs to be playing regularly.

    Forward. We need alternative options to Leaburn and at least one left footed winger to replace JRS.

    I guess the possible names will emerge over the next few weeks.

    ,
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,355
    king addick said:
    Curious for peoples views but watching the Forest Green game, I wouldnt mind us taking Charlie Savage on loan next year. Looks a decent talent and can really get up & down the pitch.

    Whats other people thinking?
    son of Robbie, might mean that we'd get a few more media mentions albeit on the absolute rubbish 'programme' that is 6 0 6
  • Karim_myBagheri
    Karim_myBagheri Posts: 12,725
    Shame you put in the word realistically. Cos I got a feeling Messi might be on a free at the end of the season. 
  • Billy_Mix
    Billy_Mix Posts: 2,707
    AMB, Wollacott
    Clare, Hector, Egbo
    Morgan, Dobbo, CBT, Campbell
    Leaburn, Kanu
    plus 2 leftbacks, 2 CHs and striker of similar quality to those above
    recruited by the start of preseason Holden then has a chance of turning them into a squad

    those I really don't want to see: Penney, Kirk, McGrandles, Aneke, Lavelle, Kilkenny, Payne, DJ
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,730
    I doubt we will lose Aneke next season. Also not sure we can keep AMB and Wollacott. I think you forgot Fraser too who I suspect we will keep. I think we will keep Inniss too. We have to remember that those we are keeping that are currently starters may be decent squad players.
  • Karim_myBagheri
    Karim_myBagheri Posts: 12,725
    Billy_Mix said:
    AMB, Wollacott
    Clare, Hector, Egbo
    Morgan, Dobbo, CBT, Campbell
    Leaburn, Kanu
    plus 2 leftbacks, 2 CHs and striker of similar quality to those above
    recruited by the start of preseason Holden then has a chance of turning them into a squad

    those I really don't want to see: Penney, Kirk, McGrandles, Aneke, Lavelle, Kilkenny, Payne, DJ
    Agree with all that but think you still need a decent 1st team winger and midfielder plus an extra 2 for the squad. Another centre forward being one. 

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  • Karim_myBagheri
    Karim_myBagheri Posts: 12,725
    I've only seen him once but is hector worth keeping? 
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,355
    Karim_myBagheri said:
    I've only seen him once but is hector worth keeping? 
    yes, i m o he's a good foil and contrast to Inniss, happy bringing the ball out of defence, good positional player .. my one caveat is that his career record shows he never stays too long anywhere
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Lincsaddick said:
    Karim_myBagheri said:
    I've only seen him once but is hector worth keeping? 
    yes, i m o he's a good foil and contrast to Inniss, happy bringing the ball out of defence, good positional player .. my one caveat is that his career record shows he never stays too long anywhere
    We are only his 4th professional club...

    Reading
    Chelsea
    Fulham.
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,355
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Lincsaddick said:
    Karim_myBagheri said:
    I've only seen him once but is hector worth keeping? 
    yes, i m o he's a good foil and contrast to Inniss, happy bringing the ball out of defence, good positional player .. my one caveat is that his career record shows he never stays too long anywhere
    We are only his 4th professional club...

    Reading
    Chelsea
    Fulham.
    load of bollocks ..

    2009–2015Reading54(3)
    2009→ Bracknell Town (loan)3(0)
    2009→ Didcot Town (loan)3(0)
    2010→ Havant & Waterlooville (loan)1(0)
    2010→ Oxford City (loan)6(0)
    2010–2011→ Horsham (loan)11(1)
    2011→ Dundalk (loan)11(2)
    2011–2012→ Barnet (loan)27(2)
    2012→ Shrewsbury Town (loan)8(0)
    2012–2013→ Aldershot Town (loan)8(1)
    2013→ Cheltenham Town (loan)20(1)
    2013–2014→ Aberdeen (loan)20(1)
    2015–2019Chelsea0(0)
    2015–2016→ Reading (loan)26(1)
    2016–2017→ Eintracht Frankfurt (loan)22(1)
    2017–2018→ Hull City (loan)36(1)
    2018–2019→ Sheffield Wednesday (loan)37(2)
    2019–2022Fulham28(0)
    2023–Charlton Athletic

  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Lincsaddick said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Lincsaddick said:
    Karim_myBagheri said:
    I've only seen him once but is hector worth keeping? 
    yes, i m o he's a good foil and contrast to Inniss, happy bringing the ball out of defence, good positional player .. my one caveat is that his career record shows he never stays too long anywhere
    We are only his 4th professional club...

    Reading
    Chelsea
    Fulham.
    load of bollocks ..

    2009–2015Reading54(3)
    2009→ Bracknell Town (loan)3(0)
    2009→ Didcot Town (loan)3(0)
    2010→ Havant & Waterlooville (loan)1(0)
    2010→ Oxford City (loan)6(0)
    2010–2011→ Horsham (loan)11(1)
    2011→ Dundalk (loan)11(2)
    2011–2012→ Barnet (loan)27(2)
    2012→ Shrewsbury Town (loan)8(0)
    2012–2013→ Aldershot Town (loan)8(1)
    2013→ Cheltenham Town (loan)20(1)
    2013–2014→ Aberdeen (loan)20(1)
    2015–2019Chelsea0(0)
    2015–2016→ Reading (loan)26(1)
    2016–2017→ Eintracht Frankfurt (loan)22(1)
    2017–2018→ Hull City (loan)36(1)
    2018–2019→ Sheffield Wednesday (loan)37(2)
    2019–2022Fulham28(0)
    2023–Charlton Athletic

    You know what a loan is? 
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,355
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Lincsaddick said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Lincsaddick said:
    Karim_myBagheri said:
    I've only seen him once but is hector worth keeping? 
    yes, i m o he's a good foil and contrast to Inniss, happy bringing the ball out of defence, good positional player .. my one caveat is that his career record shows he never stays too long anywhere
    We are only his 4th professional club...

    Reading
    Chelsea
    Fulham.
    load of bollocks ..

    2009–2015Reading54(3)
    2009→ Bracknell Town (loan)3(0)
    2009→ Didcot Town (loan)3(0)
    2010→ Havant & Waterlooville (loan)1(0)
    2010→ Oxford City (loan)6(0)
    2010–2011→ Horsham (loan)11(1)
    2011→ Dundalk (loan)11(2)
    2011–2012→ Barnet (loan)27(2)
    2012→ Shrewsbury Town (loan)8(0)
    2012–2013→ Aldershot Town (loan)8(1)
    2013→ Cheltenham Town (loan)20(1)
    2013–2014→ Aberdeen (loan)20(1)
    2015–2019Chelsea0(0)
    2015–2016→ Reading (loan)26(1)
    2016–2017→ Eintracht Frankfurt (loan)22(1)
    2017–2018→ Hull City (loan)36(1)
    2018–2019→ Sheffield Wednesday (loan)37(2)
    2019–2022Fulham28(0)
    2023–Charlton Athletic

    You know what a loan is? 
    you are a soppy and argumentative bore .. it's pitiful how you bend the truth to prove a wrong opinion .. now bore off
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Lincsaddick said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Lincsaddick said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Lincsaddick said:
    Karim_myBagheri said:
    I've only seen him once but is hector worth keeping? 
    yes, i m o he's a good foil and contrast to Inniss, happy bringing the ball out of defence, good positional player .. my one caveat is that his career record shows he never stays too long anywhere
    We are only his 4th professional club...

    Reading
    Chelsea
    Fulham.
    load of bollocks ..

    2009–2015Reading54(3)
    2009→ Bracknell Town (loan)3(0)
    2009→ Didcot Town (loan)3(0)
    2010→ Havant & Waterlooville (loan)1(0)
    2010→ Oxford City (loan)6(0)
    2010–2011→ Horsham (loan)11(1)
    2011→ Dundalk (loan)11(2)
    2011–2012→ Barnet (loan)27(2)
    2012→ Shrewsbury Town (loan)8(0)
    2012–2013→ Aldershot Town (loan)8(1)
    2013→ Cheltenham Town (loan)20(1)
    2013–2014→ Aberdeen (loan)20(1)
    2015–2019Chelsea0(0)
    2015–2016→ Reading (loan)26(1)
    2016–2017→ Eintracht Frankfurt (loan)22(1)
    2017–2018→ Hull City (loan)36(1)
    2018–2019→ Sheffield Wednesday (loan)37(2)
    2019–2022Fulham28(0)
    2023–Charlton Athletic

    You know what a loan is? 
    you are a soppy and argumentative bore .. it's pitiful how you bend the truth to prove a wrong opinion .. now bore off
    If your using youth loans to prove some ill thought out nonsense hypothesis knock yourself out. 
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,278
    Away from the obvious positions such as a striker, couple wingers, left back, centre back etc. I’ll say one people probably won’t think of.

    Elliott Watt.

    Deep lying midfielder who plays for Salford. Really progressive with the ball, always looking to get on the ball and break the lines. Technically very good whilst still doing a job on the defensive side. Won’t get forward and score you goals from runs into the box, but will see the runs of those who do and strikers in behind.

    Already has 15 assists this season and could easily end up with 20 by the season finishing.

    Watt next to Dobbo would allow players like Fraser to push on and get the goals we know he can and have seen him get this season.
  • Karim_myBagheri
    Karim_myBagheri Posts: 12,725
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Lincsaddick said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Lincsaddick said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Lincsaddick said:
    Karim_myBagheri said:
    I've only seen him once but is hector worth keeping? 
    yes, i m o he's a good foil and contrast to Inniss, happy bringing the ball out of defence, good positional player .. my one caveat is that his career record shows he never stays too long anywhere
    We are only his 4th professional club...

    Reading
    Chelsea
    Fulham.
    load of bollocks ..

    2009–2015Reading54(3)
    2009→ Bracknell Town (loan)3(0)
    2009→ Didcot Town (loan)3(0)
    2010→ Havant & Waterlooville (loan)1(0)
    2010→ Oxford City (loan)6(0)
    2010–2011→ Horsham (loan)11(1)
    2011→ Dundalk (loan)11(2)
    2011–2012→ Barnet (loan)27(2)
    2012→ Shrewsbury Town (loan)8(0)
    2012–2013→ Aldershot Town (loan)8(1)
    2013→ Cheltenham Town (loan)20(1)
    2013–2014→ Aberdeen (loan)20(1)
    2015–2019Chelsea0(0)
    2015–2016→ Reading (loan)26(1)
    2016–2017→ Eintracht Frankfurt (loan)22(1)
    2017–2018→ Hull City (loan)36(1)
    2018–2019→ Sheffield Wednesday (loan)37(2)
    2019–2022Fulham28(0)
    2023–Charlton Athletic

    You know what a loan is? 
    you are a soppy and argumentative bore .. it's pitiful how you bend the truth to prove a wrong opinion .. now bore off
    If your using youth loans to prove some ill thought out nonsense hypothesis knock yourself out. 
    wish i never bloody asked. 
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,674
    I'd love to get Sam Nombe from Exeter

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