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Absolutely, I was just pointing out that most dog bites come from handbag-accessory dogs not the big bad agressive ones.MrOneLung said:
Few of them have had to have a funeral director turn up after though.Stuart_the_Red said:If I’m not mistaken more people are bitten by chihuahuas than breeds considered to be “aggressive”!0 -
That’s some intense eyes he’s got there!guinnessaddick said:
We got Magnus (we gave him that name) from a dog home, he cost us £185. We believe he is a springerpoo.T_C_E said:So many people buy a dog not only knowing nothing about dogs but their chosen breed.The wonderfully named Cockerpoo fetching 2/3k I’m told is also available under the name of crossbreed/mongrel from most rescues for £150/250, this isn’t some elite pedigree owner looking down on crossbreeds it’s people that get one because “they don’t moult” they do lose hair but just not in the quantity of other breeds, no other research is done into the fact they are both working dogs and I’ve never known a cocker spaniel without a high drive and like a poodle is a working dog. Result you get a dog with both requirements and the need to be doing something, a walk to the post office isn’t enough but it doesn’t moult so we’ll get one and wonder why it’s bouncing off the walls because we couldn’t be arsed to correctly exercise it today!Children like the dogs have to be taught how to behave and earn each other’s respect, you won’t see my grandchildren laying on my dogs for a supposedly cute photo and likewise you won’t see my dogs jumping up at them.
I only today corrected a lady on a mobility scooter when she tried to encourage Bow to put his paws up on her scooter so she fuss him easier, as I said when he sees you again on your walking frame if he were to get the same signal she’s on her arse.
Training is not something you can forget about for a day it’s repetitive, day in day out.
He has given us so much more to our family. However we don’t know his history, as he was found on the streets. He hates hoses and will run a mile when he see you with one.0 -
Too much Guinness I presumeBoom said:
That’s some intense eyes he’s got there!guinnessaddick said:
We got Magnus (we gave him that name) from a dog home, he cost us £185. We believe he is a springerpoo.T_C_E said:So many people buy a dog not only knowing nothing about dogs but their chosen breed.The wonderfully named Cockerpoo fetching 2/3k I’m told is also available under the name of crossbreed/mongrel from most rescues for £150/250, this isn’t some elite pedigree owner looking down on crossbreeds it’s people that get one because “they don’t moult” they do lose hair but just not in the quantity of other breeds, no other research is done into the fact they are both working dogs and I’ve never known a cocker spaniel without a high drive and like a poodle is a working dog. Result you get a dog with both requirements and the need to be doing something, a walk to the post office isn’t enough but it doesn’t moult so we’ll get one and wonder why it’s bouncing off the walls because we couldn’t be arsed to correctly exercise it today!Children like the dogs have to be taught how to behave and earn each other’s respect, you won’t see my grandchildren laying on my dogs for a supposedly cute photo and likewise you won’t see my dogs jumping up at them.
I only today corrected a lady on a mobility scooter when she tried to encourage Bow to put his paws up on her scooter so she fuss him easier, as I said when he sees you again on your walking frame if he were to get the same signal she’s on her arse.
Training is not something you can forget about for a day it’s repetitive, day in day out.He has given us so much more to our family. However we don’t know his history, as he was found on the streets. He hates hoses and will run a mile when he see you with one.1 -
Two police horses have been attacked and injured by a dog while they were out on patrol in west London.
Police horses Snaffles and Yvonne, with mounted officers Leon Astley and Grace Miller-McCormack, were in Shepherd's Bush Green at about 11:30 BST on Monday when it happened.
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I fucking hate to hear stories like this. Do the same to the owners in a crocodile swamp.
Returned the dog to its owner? FFS
If you can’t command the dog, keep it on a lead.
What annoys me is that if this was in somewhere like Spain, the local OB would ave just shot the dog.
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Chihuahuas are aggresive. They are also small so that in itself means they are less dangerous. Our dog JJ is a chihuahua Jack Russell cross and he considers it his role to guard the house but he is as loving as you can get when he gets to know you. It just takes half an hour rather than instantly. And a few treats!Stuart_the_Red said:If I’m not mistaken more people are bitten by chihuahuas than breeds considered to be “aggressive”!1 -
Give him a medal, might calm him down.MuttleyCAFC said:
Chihuahuas are aggresive. They are also small so that in itself means they are less dangerous. Our dog JJ is a chihuahua Jack Russell cross and he considers it his role to guard the house but he is as loving as you can get when he gets to know you. It just takes half an hour rather than instantly. And a few treats!Stuart_the_Red said:If I’m not mistaken more people are bitten by chihuahuas than breeds considered to be “aggressive”!0 -
The problem is with the more bigger and dangerous dog types, is even if they are trained fantastically, they can still be unpredictable if the owners aren't around or nearby and act differently.
Could get anxious, could feel its owner is in danger, could become territorial.
My uncle had an Alsation that only he could enter the room with first. It would go for anyone else who tried to enter his house without him. Shit owner etc yeah but the dog wouldn't bother anyone as long as he was in the room, so I've seen how dogs behaviours can drastically change.
Think that put me off big dogs for life, nearly losing my thumb to an Akita probably didn't help either.
I think you should need a license to own certain dog breeds or it's illegal. Vigorous training to receive a license and prove you can look after one. Most of these scruffs wouldn't have dogs then. Too many in it just cause they're insecure and want a big legal weapon.3 -
As with almost everything to do with animals, the problem with dogs is the owners. There's a woman near me who's got an XL Bully who put a post up on the local Facebook group moaning at people for crossing the road when she comes near them with her muzzled fucking thunderbeast - telling everyone he's harmless and just wants to be friendly and have people come over to pet it. Yeah, of course love - that's why you called the thing 'Dinosaur'. I've seen the fucking thing and the last thing I want to do is pet it. She'd literally get dragged down the fucking road if it actually went for anyone.
Fucking attention seeking shithouse.12 -
The main problem, as I see it, as a non-dog owner, is basically: thick c***s.
The common thread amongst a lot of social problems imo.
Paying the price now for so many years of crumbling education and bombardment with brain dead "entertainment".
Being stupid is now somehow seen as desirable.10 - Sponsored links:
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I once heard a stunt actor say they would much rather stage a high speed motorcycle crash than do a stunt involving horses, because motorbikes are more predictable than animals.
When a dog owner assures you their dog is harmless and friendly, I keep the words of the stunt actor in mind.2 -
I make you right, I cant remember what commedian I saw who summed up perfectly what me and my mates think. It was along the lines of "when someone brings a thick bloke down the pub, they'd get told, don't bring him along again, he's thick"ArmchairAddick said:The main problem, as I see it, as a non-dog owner, is basically: thick c***s.
The common thread amongst a lot of social problems imo.
Paying the price now for so many years of crumbling education and bombardment with brain dead "entertainment".
Being stupid is now somehow seen as desirable.
Now some of the drongos who get in my local, and this has probably always been the case, are the loudest. The thickest and least funny or interesting and I dont know how the system has let us and them down so badly by not making it clear they need to fuck off and drink in weatherspoons instead. Twitter probably
Anyway, dogs. Its never the decent owners whose dogs go loco. I say this as someone who used to own a very violent dog (when provoked) and the volume of dogs that would come up to her, when she was on the lead and even after me telling them she wasn't friendly on the lead they would yell back, (because these pricks never have their animals on a lead nor do the dogs have any recall at all because why bother teaching them that, or teaching them how to behave full stop for that matter) "its ok they are friendly"
Then having to field a situation between a angry dog with a bite force I didn't want to consider and an idiot with their dog they can't control
I'm a big believer in letting people live their lives without intrusion from governments however idiots and their insistence on getting status dogs that really belong in a zoo like XL American Pitbuls needs some firm governance. Fuck knows who is going to do it though seeing as the government are intent on cutting everything and there aren't any old bill anymore unless a football game is on
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Why the fck are they off their leads the fucking idiots! The owners should face a £500 fine each and have to pay for vet bills.clive said:Two police horses have been attacked and injured by a dog while they were out on patrol in west London.
Police horses Snaffles and Yvonne, with mounted officers Leon Astley and Grace Miller-McCormack, were in Shepherd's Bush Green at about 11:30 BST on Monday when it happened.
Then again its the UK, nothing will happen!2 -
The sad thing is, I could fill this thread with pages of our dog’s positive achievements in the last week alone and it would barely raise an eyebrow (or like in this case) but someone, somewhere in this country gets a dog, has zero idea what to do or how to do it, it then it bites some one and everyone has an opinion, it’s not a criticism of anyone here but it’s the way of the world. When my dogs are in public places they and I wear cameras, why because I need to protect my dogs from others who can’t control their dogs, we are not talking youngsters with status dogs we’re talking 50+ folk with dogs that should they be allowed to aggressively approach my dog they will get hurt, my dogs will tolerate but they are still dogs and should fifi-trixiebelle be allowed to get in their faces Bow is more than capable of breaking its back. (For the record I wouldn’t allow that to happen)
But what would make the headlines if it happened? Therapy Dog (a German Shepherd that works in a primary school ) attacks little dog.All the while tv allows these tv programs to air that convince people that training is sorted in an hour, we’re in trouble.My dogs have worked in schools since 2013 and been Therapy dogs since 2010/11 without incident (touch wood it stays that way) and they are trained every day and will be for the rest of their lives, training is not an hour in a church hall, training is keeping them stimulated so they don’t get into mischief or worse.
Incidently, we had to have paramedics out to my wife earlier this week who touch advantage of our dogs and enjoyed 5 minutes relaxing with them .I ask anyone who thinks this doesn’t happen, to walk from my house to school and see for themselves the stress they are put under by poor dog handling by others and then see for themselves the reception they get from 500 children at school.The dog almost always pays the ultimate price for poor owners and that with its life.
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I have nothing but admiration for what you (and your dogs) do and in many ways people like yourself (or even just normal, responsible dog owners who love their family pet) are victimised by the few idiots.
The problem is that if I am taking my 6 year old son to the park and someone is walking a dog then I have to very quickly try and work out if they are a responsible owner and a well trained dog or potentially a threat. I've had dogs myself of various sizes but even so I feel obliged to err on caution.2 -
Dogs have specific personalities and breeding traits. I can't imagine being mauled by a spaniel, poodle, lab or a dachshund. Even if their owner is a right wing, tattooed bully.
A family dog Alfie was a staffy who was lovely but I wouldn't have him home with young children. They are fighting animals.
Owners of these attack canines have to be held more to account after tragedies.1 -
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Alas totally the opposite. Pete Price seems a total dickhead. His only evidence was there are millions of squeaky toys sold. A spaniel, poodle, lab or a dachshund arent going to be affected. Attack dogs aren't normal.
The guy has a point. The interviewer bullied him without giving a rational point of view.0 -
Was he a right wing tattooed bully though?0
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Unlikely. Just a media "star" who thinks he can legitimise his opinions by his listener numbers, and cut the guy off if he gets into strife.Rate said:Was he a right wing tattooed bully though?
J O'B doesn't use those tactics, he invites important people to challenge his logic.0 - Sponsored links:
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Ironically, three of the four breeds you named were originally bred for hunting with the Dachshund bred to take on badgers.Gisappointed said:Dogs have specific personalities and breeding traits. I can't imagine being mauled by a spaniel, poodle, lab or a dachshund. Even if their owner is a right wing, tattooed bully.
A family dog Alfie was a staffy who was lovely but I wouldn't have him home with young children. They are fighting animals.
Owners of these attack canines have to be held more to account after tragedies.Where as the German Shepherd was originally bred to herd sheep and if necessary protect the flock.0 -
Thanks for the insight which I'd never have guessed. I think spaniels hunting history is collecting shot birds, similar poodles, but X-bullys are not bred as lap-dogs.
I know you own GS's, please don't bring them to the Valley if you disagree with me.0 -
If the club invite them they’ll be there, no one is forcing you to touch them and they won’t touch you so all is good 👍Gisappointed said:Thanks for the insight which I'd never have guessed. I think spaniels hunting history is collecting shot birds, similar poodles, but X-bullys are not bred as lap-dogs.
I know you own GS's, please don't bring them to the Valley if you disagree with me.1 -
I don't want to be approached by other people's dogs when I'm out. I don't want them pawing and sniffing around me or have them drool on me. A lot of dog owners seem to think that it's OK for their dog to invade my space.10
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I agree with that.ME14addick said:I don't want to be approached by other people's dogs when I'm out. I don't want them pawing and sniffing around me or have them drool on me. A lot of dog owners seem to think that it's OK for their dog to invade my space.
"Don't worry, he's friendly". Well I won't be if you don't get him the fuck off me.3 -
Other dog owners can be so infuriating sometimes. We have two Border Terriers. One doesn’t like other dogs and will bark at them and go a bit loco. As a result we never let him off the lead, unless we are somewhere like a deserted beach in the Scottish Islands and there are no other dogs around. Even then if we see a dog in the distance then he’s back on the lead. We don’t think he’ll harm them but it’s not fair for him to get in their faces, barking at them and generally being a nuisance. However, the amount of times we have been on the village green, in a local park, on the beach etc. and another dog has come running up to him and barking in his face and then the other owner is surprised when our dog reacts badly. It’s always ‘oh, don’t mind him he’s friendly’ and I have to point out ‘well my dog doesn’t obviously think so and your dog has just got in his personal space and been a nuisance’.
I don’t mind other dogs being off lead but only if they are not going to make a beeline for other dogs and be a nuisance to them. Dogs are fine in general, it’s the owners that are the problem.0 -
Unfortunately, legislation has to account for worst-case scenarios. And also unfortunately, at least when it comes to listed dangerous dogs themselves, they often seem to be most popular with people who lack the necessary means to care for such animals—whether that’s intelligence and common sense, adequate property size or type, or simply the willingness to exercise and train the dog properly.
What inevitably happens is that these dogs end up confined to kitchens and are only let out into the back garden to go to the toilet. Not only is it nearly impossible to train a dog in those conditions, but the animal also misses out on essential socialisation with other dogs and people, doesn’t get to release energy, and suffers mentally as a result. I’ve seen it happen with a Springer Spaniel. A friend bought one from a working kennel but didn’t take the time to train it, and the dog became totally out of control. You could see it was going mad from boredom. Thankfully, it was rehomed and, as far as I know, is doing okay now. But if you swap a Springer for an XL Bully, you can start to see how this goes very wrong, very quickly. Of course, there are responsible owners—but in my opinion, they are a massive minority when it comes to these types of breeds.
Personally, I think the best approach is to spay and neuter all of them, aiming for the breed to phase out over the next 10–12 years, followed by a complete ban on ownership. Which I believe is what's happening?4 -
Micky FlanaganCarter said:
I make you right, I cant remember what commedian I saw who summed up perfectly what me and my mates think. It was along the lines of "when someone brings a thick bloke down the pub, they'd get told, don't bring him along again, he's thick"ArmchairAddick said:The main problem, as I see it, as a non-dog owner, is basically: thick cunts.
The common thread amongst a lot of social problems imo.
Paying the price now for so many years of crumbling education and bombardment with brain dead "entertainment".
Being stupid is now somehow seen as desirable.
Now some of the drongos who get in my local, and this has probably always been the case, are the loudest. The thickest and least funny or interesting and I dont know how the system has let us and them down so badly by not making it clear they need to fuck off and drink in weatherspoons instead. Twitter probably1 -
Dogs are wonderful creatures and literally are man’s best friend but they are still intrinsically unpredictable and no sensible dog owner can ever be 100% sure of how their dog will react to a situation and that’s even highly trained dogs. We have a nine month old Cockerpoo and we’re currently taking her to training sessions to instill as much obedience as we can in her. We also have three grandchildren ages 10, 4 and 2 and I’d never be complacent enough to leave any of them with the dog without supervision. Each breed has specific characteristics and quite why anyone would want to own a breed that is naturally aggressive is beyond my understanding. I’m all for much stricter controls on owning dogs of all flavours.3
