I always try to give constructive criticism and say what I see. Until last Saturday I hadn't seen the skill on the ball with a good 1st touch so I was slightly amazed when he did the fancy footwork and skill and a lovely cross for Fullah who unfortunately hit the the crossbar which I felt gutted for Karoy who didn't get an excellent assist. He fitted like a glove when replacing Berry for 65 minutes against Wycombe in the team's A* performance.
I read that he was skilful in the U18's + U21's but the majority of times I watch him live or on Sky plus, his control of the ball leaves a lot to be desired so it's difficult to be totally positive.
I accept he is still learning the demands of the midfield role in the competitive 3rd tier plus Nathan rates him and possibly as Anderson is still only 20 1/2 years old with confidence and experience he will improve.
Unlike his buddy TC, Karoy seems comfortable doing interviews; wish him well and his all round game can have an upward trajectory.
I think Karoy does a great job from the bench but quite possibly as has been suggested by others, his ideal position is Doc's position. If we cast our minds back to Huddersfield at home, Doc was away due to his wife giving birth and Anderson was terrific.
We also saw later that he can't fill in for TC and central midfield is his position as it stands now. We have to rememeber his young age. Personally I think the sky is the limit for the lad and don't quite understand how a few others can't see it. Maybe I'm wrong but I don't think so.
I think some are naturally patient with young players and look for the potential. TC is a good example of why we should be patient with KA and others, as I said in the post match thread, this is a really exciting group due to the number of players coming through, and even if none of them are outstanding at 17.
KA has the potential to be a more complete box to box player than Doc, but for now Doc has the place as he’s more consistent.
I think Karoy does a great job from the bench but quite possibly as has been suggested by others, his ideal position is Doc's position. If we cast our minds back to Huddersfield at home, Doc was away due to his wife giving birth and Anderson was terrific.
We also saw later that he can't fill in for TC and central midfield is his position as it stands now. We have to rememeber his young age. Personally I think the sky is the limit for the lad and don't quite understand how a few others can't see it. Maybe I'm wrong but I don't think so.
I think some are naturally patient with young players and look for the potential. TC is a good example of why we should be patient with KA and others, as I said in the post match thread, this is a really exciting group due to the number of players coming through, and even if none of them are outstanding at 17.
KA has the potential to be a more complete box to box player than Doc, but for now Doc has the place as he’s more consistent.
Nearly every young player goes through the early stage of showing potential but not being consistent. People see the poor performances and write them off
I like Karoy, but he is a bit inconsistent. Maybe that's because Jones has used him in various dirrent roles and he hasn't quite nailed down an exact position yet. My cousin came to the Burton game and he was asking about players who came off the bench. I was trying to describe Karoys style and said something along the lines of "he runs around a lot, gets stuck and that's why Jones likes him" about 5 seconds later he sprinted about 20yrds, clattered some geezer leaving him in a heep and sent the ball into the west lower "just like that" ha! I was very surprised by that Neymar-esque turn, but shows he's got a bit more to him than what I described.
I like Karoy, but he is a bit inconsistent. Maybe that's because Jones has used him in various dirrent roles and he hasn't quite nailed down an exact position yet. My cousin came to the Burton game and he was asking about players who came off the bench. I was trying to describe Karoys style and said something along the lines of "he runs around a lot, gets stuck and that's why Jones likes him" about 5 seconds later he sprinted about 20yrds, clattered some geezer leaving him in a heep and sent the ball into the west lower "just like that" ha! I was very surprised by that Neymar-esque turn, but shows he's got a bit more to him than what I described.
I would guess a lot of it's down confidence, as it seemed to be with TC. Aribo was very skilful on the ball but he took a while to really show it in the first team. Anderson's a different type of midfielder, but he has had the odd moment of skill where he looks like he can be more than just a battling midfielder.
I think Karoy does a great job from the bench but quite possibly as has been suggested by others, his ideal position is Doc's position. If we cast our minds back to Huddersfield at home, Doc was away due to his wife giving birth and Anderson was terrific.
We also saw later that he can't fill in for TC and central midfield is his position as it stands now. We have to rememeber his young age. Personally I think the sky is the limit for the lad and don't quite understand how a few others can't see it. Maybe I'm wrong but I don't think so.
I think some are naturally patient with young players and look for the potential. TC is a good example of why we should be patient with KA and others, as I said in the post match thread, this is a really exciting group due to the number of players coming through, and even if none of them are outstanding at 17.
KA has the potential to be a more complete box to box player than Doc, but for now Doc has the place as he’s more consistent.
I like Karoy, but he is a bit inconsistent. Maybe that's because Jones has used him in various dirrent roles and he hasn't quite nailed down an exact position yet. My cousin came to the Burton game and he was asking about players who came off the bench. I was trying to describe Karoys style and said something along the lines of "he runs around a lot, gets stuck and that's why Jones likes him" about 5 seconds later he sprinted about 20yrds, clattered some geezer leaving him in a heep and sent the ball into the west lower "just like that" ha! I was very surprised by that Neymar-esque turn, but shows he's got a bit more to him than what I described.
I would guess a lot of it's down confidence, as it seemed to be with TC. Aribo was very skilful on the ball but he took a while to really show it in the first team. Anderson's a different type of midfielder, but he has had the odd moment of skill where he looks like he can be more than just a battling midfielder.
I think Karoy does a great job from the bench but quite possibly as has been suggested by others, his ideal position is Doc's position. If we cast our minds back to Huddersfield at home, Doc was away due to his wife giving birth and Anderson was terrific.
We also saw later that he can't fill in for TC and central midfield is his position as it stands now. We have to rememeber his young age. Personally I think the sky is the limit for the lad and don't quite understand how a few others can't see it. Maybe I'm wrong but I don't think so.
I think some are naturally patient with young players and look for the potential. TC is a good example of why we should be patient with KA and others, as I said in the post match thread, this is a really exciting group due to the number of players coming through, and even if none of them are outstanding at 17.
KA has the potential to be a more complete box to box player than Doc, but for now Doc has the place as he’s more consistent.
Did Russell Slade teach us nothing?!
Russell Slade taught us to stand with our hands in our pockets -improved the menu at the players Canteen at Sparrows lane - Insisted that players under contract that were injured were monitored during the summer- and be patient !
Big Russell is/was better behind the scenes than being a manager as well as being the polar opposite to manic finger bitting Welsh religious Nathan in the technical area on match days. NJ definitely looks more interested 😀
Karoy is not far short of being a terrific player. But it amazes me that someone, so obviously talented, so often cannot play a simple 10 yard pass effectively, either hitting it too hard, or behind the man etc. I'm sure it must be down to a lack of composure or concentration, but it's something that he needs to iron out in his game.
So far, he has had most of his best games off the bench. That's not really surprising though, got to remember he's only 20 years old and playing in the hardest position on the pitch (centre midfield), as well as alternating between being played as an "8' or a "10".
For me, he's got bags of talent - great energy, gets the tackles in, presses well and gets the turnovers and he is - don't laugh - a good passer of the ball. What he lacks now is consistency, mainly in terms of his first touch and weight of pass.
Karoy has all the physical skills to be a championship level box to box midfielder with one major glaring flaw as has been discussed on here ad nauseum (ball control) which causes him to look like league two quality at times. He will never be an attacking mid as he doesn’t have the creativity. The key to his development is can he learn to better in that dimension of his game.. so far he hasn’t shown any progress in that regard but in theory you would hope with more experience, it will connect for him. He is hard to project. I could see him playing in the championship in a few years but it wouldn’t surprise me if he was playing non league either
Karoy is not far short of being a terrific player. But it amazes me that someone, so obviously talented, so often cannot play a simple 10 yard pass effectively, either hitting it too hard, or behind the man etc. I'm sure it must be down to a lack of composure or concentration, but it's something that he needs to iron out in his game.
He is far way of being a terrific player technically, has a great engine, but technically he is deficit, its ok in league 1, but the further you move up the leagues the more that will become apparent and be exposed.
Karoy is not far short of being a terrific player. But it amazes me that someone, so obviously talented, so often cannot play a simple 10 yard pass effectively, either hitting it too hard, or behind the man etc. I'm sure it must be down to a lack of composure or concentration, but it's something that he needs to iron out in his game.
He is far way of being a terrific player technically, has a great engine, but technically he is deficit, its ok in league 1, but the further you move up the leagues the more that will become apparent and be exposed.
I don't think you are factoring his age into your comments. If he was 26, we can could have a good idea of his level but he can rise with us, assuming that we rise of course.
Karoy has all the physical skills to be a championship level box to box midfielder with one major glaring flaw as has been discussed on here ad nauseum (ball control) which causes him to look like league two quality at times. He will never be an attacking mid as he doesn’t have the creativity. The key to his development is can he learn to better in that dimension of his game.. so far he hasn’t shown any progress in that regard but in theory you would hope with more experience, it will connect for him. He is hard to project. I could see him playing in the championship in a few years but it wouldn’t surprise me if he was playing non league either
Not sure about that. He can get forward and has scored a few goals. Very versatile young player.
Added some real bite (especially that brave header which signalled we meant business through to full time) and a 40 yard accurate through ball to Godden too.
Think he's really come on, still things to work on but made a real impact coming off the bench yesterday. If I was feeling contrary I'd say that, at this moment in time, I think he's a better player than Doc.
Added some real bite (especially that brave header which signalled we meant business through to full time) and a 40 yard accurate through ball to Godden too.
I think that bites always been there, the aggression to win the ball and bravery to challenge in the air is one of the reasons NJ rates him so highly.
With goal in the Wycombe league and moments like that ball though to Godden it’s great to see him offer more with the ball.
If he can do it consistently then Doc’s place in the team is there to be won. Doc’s consistent and hard working, but he doesn’t stand out when it comes passing, creativity or goalscoring.
Think he's really come on, still things to work on but made a real impact coming off the bench yesterday. If I was feeling contrary I'd say that, at this moment in time, I think he's a better player than Doc.
Think the academy tinted glasses are blinded some people, the only thing he is better at Doc then is his engine, I cant deny he is wholehearted and technical, but he is still pretty technically poor
Added some real bite (especially that brave header which signalled we meant business through to full time) and a 40 yard accurate through ball to Godden too.
I think that bites always been there, the aggression to win the ball and bravery to challenge in the air is one of the reasons NJ rates him so highly.
With goal in the Wycombe league and moments like that ball though to Godden it’s great to see him offer more with the ball.
If he can do it consistently then Doc’s place in the team is there to be won. Doc’s consistent and hard working, but he doesn’t stand out when it comes passing, creativity or goalscoring.
What's very clear at the moment is NJ and the rest of the backroom team are actually coaching players. We've seen improvements in lots of our players, young and more established, that I'm sure are the fruits of many hours of hard work and listening to good advice at Sparrows Lane. I think for now Karoy is still best off the bench where that burst of energy and aggression must be nightmare a tiring opposition, but I agree that you can see where his skills are building towards.
Added some real bite (especially that brave header which signalled we meant business through to full time) and a 40 yard accurate through ball to Godden too.
I think that bites always been there, the aggression to win the ball and bravery to challenge in the air is one of the reasons NJ rates him so highly.
With goal in the Wycombe league and moments like that ball though to Godden it’s great to see him offer more with the ball.
If he can do it consistently then Doc’s place in the team is there to be won. Doc’s consistent and hard working, but he doesn’t stand out when it comes passing, creativity or goalscoring.
I think you're missing out the fact that Doc is a leader, and captain of the team...
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I always try to give constructive criticism and say what I see. Until last Saturday I hadn't seen the skill on the ball with a good 1st touch so I was slightly amazed when he did the fancy footwork and skill and a lovely cross for Fullah who unfortunately hit the the crossbar which I felt gutted for Karoy who didn't get an excellent assist. He fitted like a glove when replacing Berry for 65 minutes against Wycombe in the team's A* performance.
I read that he was skilful in the U18's + U21's but the majority of times I watch him live or on Sky plus, his control of the ball leaves a lot to be desired so it's difficult to be totally positive.
I accept he is still learning the demands of the midfield role in the competitive 3rd tier plus Nathan rates him and possibly as Anderson is still only 20 1/2 years old with confidence and experience he will improve.
Unlike his buddy TC, Karoy seems comfortable doing interviews; wish him well and his all round game can have an upward trajectory.
https://www.charltonafc.com/news/view/60ae46e91b819/support-billy-frenchs-fundraiser-for-parkinsons-uk-and-mind-in-sport
https://www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=185560
Russell Slade taught us to stand with our hands in our pockets -improved the menu at the players Canteen at Sparrows lane - Insisted that players under contract that were injured were monitored during the summer-
and be patient !
Big Russell is/was better behind the scenes than being a manager as well as being the polar opposite to manic finger bitting Welsh religious Nathan in the technical area on match days. NJ definitely looks more interested 😀
I'm sure it must be down to a lack of composure or concentration, but it's something that he needs to iron out in his game.
For me, he's got bags of talent - great energy, gets the tackles in, presses well and gets the turnovers and he is - don't laugh - a good passer of the ball. What he lacks now is consistency, mainly in terms of his first touch and weight of pass.
Love this, Karoy always seems to be doing some sort of heartwarming post after matches these days
With goal in the Wycombe league and moments like that ball though to Godden it’s great to see him offer more with the ball.
If he can do it consistently then Doc’s place in the team is there to be won. Doc’s consistent and hard working, but he doesn’t stand out when it comes passing, creativity or goalscoring.