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  • Richard J said:







    Wasn't he the Lincoln fan who talked about Gilbey last year?
    Yes
  • seth plum said:
    I think we can finally rule out the notion that the Shamocracy had any kind of plan as to what to do next after they sacked Dean Holden
    Sadly I agree 
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    The last manager from League 2 did great, signed plenty of players from L2 as well for us.  That ended well.   
    Hiring a successful L2 manager worked out horrendously for Rob Edwards and Luton as well.
    How did it work out for Rob Edwards and Watford?


    Worked out very well at Watford.
    He was in the top half of the table in 10th place after just 10 games and he got a years money when sacked. Win/win situation and now he has overachieved at Luton.
    You mean he was 10th, mid table, like the Cowleys were when they got sacked?

    The whole point is success is relative, and in the eye of the beholder.  

    Some say Jackson was a success for finishing midtable, some say he was a failure.

    JJ wasn't a failure if you take a team from 22nd to 13 despite what the experts said on CL.
    If he was a failure we would have ended up in League 2.
    Not saying he was a success but he did well with and I quote many posters on CL.
    "The worse squad in living memory"
    By the Ipswich 4-0 there was chaos behind the scenes (Washington) as we hadn't reached the high target that had been set for Jackson from 22nd place.
    But your completely missing the point.

    Jackson got sacked for finishing 13th.
    Edwards got sacked for being 10th.
    Cowley got sacked for being 12th.

    Some people will say they got sacked, therefore they failed.  Some people will say they hadn't failed so shouldn't have been sacked.  Some will say it was best for both sides if they parted ways.

    There is no manager, they we are ever going to get, that has never failed AND has manages at at least league 1 level.  That includes Powell, Bowyer, Richardson and anyone else you would care to name.
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  • Cafc43v3r said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    The last manager from League 2 did great, signed plenty of players from L2 as well for us.  That ended well.   
    Hiring a successful L2 manager worked out horrendously for Rob Edwards and Luton as well.
    How did it work out for Rob Edwards and Watford?


    Worked out very well at Watford.
    He was in the top half of the table in 10th place after just 10 games and he got a years money when sacked. Win/win situation and now he has overachieved at Luton.
    You mean he was 10th, mid table, like the Cowleys were when they got sacked?

    The whole point is success is relative, and in the eye of the beholder.  

    Some say Jackson was a success for finishing midtable, some say he was a failure.
    10th in the Championship though.
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  • Can’t believe this Rob Edwards tangent I started…
  • JamesSeed said:
    vff said:
    I applaud 👏 Scott & Methven looking at managers with League 2 & National League experience. Its a win all round for Charlton. Excellent to have a manager experienced in League 2 & National League given the direction Methven, Scott & his pals club are sending the club in.

    These L2 / unemployed managers will also be cheap to hire & fire & perfect for pinning the blame on & distracting from the Methven & Scott genius strategy -  when everything goes even more pearshaped. 
    Charlton supporters have the added benefit of getting used to the standard of football coming our wayin future seasons, so its not too much of a shock. Throw ins should improve though. Happy days !

    Methven can also get those costs down by getting the budget down to national league / league two levels. Man of his word is Charlie. Not sure 🤔 why any Charlton supporter is unhappy given Scott & Methven solid preparation for the future. 
    Our best manager ever was not even a manager but a coach when he joined us and had never been a manager …… all managers have to start somewhere even Pep and co needed that break 
    J S was manager of Orient for a year before joining us, not a coach. 👍😊
    You sure James, is your source better than the Plymouth Herald……………. Oh hang on a minute 😉
  • Fumbluff said:
    Further to a second interview, talks are now advancing with Mickey the pipe from Sidcup. 
    Mickey is currently coaching Crockenhills U18 team but what has attracted the Charlton SMT is that he can also fix their bogs, for free…
    10/10
  • vffvff
    edited August 2023
    Challinor, Appleton , Cowley.
    Doesnt matter what order they will probably all have a go by the end of the season.

    It will be a huge surprise imo that the absentee owners SE7 Partners SMT (Scott / Methven - it wasn't me, not me mate, everything going wrong is someone elses' fault, I only take credit for things that go well) hire is still in post by the end of the season.
  • Fumbluff said:
    Further to a second interview, talks are now advancing with Mickey the pipe from Sidcup. 
    Mickey is currently coaching Crockenhills U18 team but what has attracted the Charlton SMT is that he can also fix their bogs, for free…

    Don’t suppose you’ve got Mickeys number?
  • vffvff
    edited August 2023
    If true, our billionaire owners won't be happy getting rejected by the Stockport manager

    That's if they know about us which I'm beginning to doubt 

    Has anyone checked with the billionaires,  that they are aware that they are actually owners of a UK football club ? If so, that to flip the club in the Championship & making some money, requires some sustained investment to get there ? Ipswich the example not shoestring Charlie (sell off the youth products, if any of them survive the rushed development and potential shattering of their confidence).
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  • edited August 2023
    Richard J said:






    Wasn't he the Lincoln fan who talked about Gilbey last year?
    Yes
    I have no idea what is going on.

    I got the feeling that he was very anti Charlton and wasn't the most reliable of sources.

  • This is gonna be the worst potential ITK post of all time but fuck it. 

    Darren Moore just gave a talk at my job. Whilst saying goodbye to people Moore stated he is staying in London overnight and the host wished him luck for tomorrow.

    No idea what he's doing tomorrow but hopefully he's interviewing to be our manager.


    Playing football manager isn't a job y'know  ;)
    Gizzadiscount on FM24 :-)  @ProperCharlton

    I only get 5 free copies... Sorry mate 😐😂
  • Addick_8 said:
    There is going to a massive reaction to this that we are being rejected now by Stockport managers etc. 

    However if true, I do think that location and moving his family etc could have a massive say in what he would want to do. 
    If that reason is true he is a plonker.
    I have never applied for a job in Bradford because I don’t want to live there. Why on earth would he be applying for a job in London if he does not want to live here?
    Or maybe it is even worse. Did he apply for the job without even discussing it with his wife and family?

    I think it more likely he didn’t get the job and is saying he turned it down so he can look his players in the face and tell them to play for the shirt.
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    This is gonna be the worst potential ITK post of all time but fuck it. 

    Darren Moore just gave a talk at my job. Whilst saying goodbye to people Moore stated he is staying in London overnight and the host wished him luck for tomorrow.

    No idea what he's doing tomorrow but hopefully he's interviewing to be our manager.


    Playing football manager isn't a job y'know  ;)
    Gizzadiscount on FM24 :-)  @ProperCharlton

    I only get 5 free copies... Sorry mate 😐😂
    What is it you do there if you dont mind me asking?

    Sounds like a great place to work
  • Redrobo said:
    Addick_8 said:
    There is going to a massive reaction to this that we are being rejected now by Stockport managers etc. 

    However if true, I do think that location and moving his family etc could have a massive say in what he would want to do. 
    If that reason is true he is a plonker.
    I have never applied for a job in Bradford because I don’t want to live there. Why on earth would he be applying for a job in London if he does not want to live here?
    Or maybe it is even worse. Did he apply for the job without even discussing it with his wife and family?

    I think it more likely he didn’t get the job and is saying he turned it down so he can look his players in the face and tell them to play for the shirt.
    Who is to say he applied for it? 
    Considering we were still interviewing today, I reckon there is a good chance that we asked to speak to Stockport, they said yes and then he said no thank you.
    A key indicator is the fact Rich Cawley never said it was as close as some of twitter accounts or rumours that was spreading. I don’t think he has rejected a job offer and I am quite pleased as I don’t think he would be a good appointment. 
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    In regards to us allegedly being turned down I wonder if it's because of what we are offering and if there's an issue with wages and guarantees etc.

    With all due respect if you're willing to be interviewed then your foot is half way out the door from wherever you were/are anyway.

    I am personally happy that the Stockport Manager turned us down. All the names that have been mentioned like Appleton, Cowley, Johnson have done better than him and then some.

    What now concerns me is why are they saying no? We are offering it on a short term basis, are we offering a low salary, are we saying we don't have money for signings etc.

    I don't see it as an insult getting rejected by a manager from a lower league, bigger clubs than us have been rejected by managers, it happens. More so want to know what is being said that is allegedly putting these candidates off 
  • Addick_8 said:
    Redrobo said:
    Addick_8 said:
    There is going to a massive reaction to this that we are being rejected now by Stockport managers etc. 

    However if true, I do think that location and moving his family etc could have a massive say in what he would want to do. 
    If that reason is true he is a plonker.
    I have never applied for a job in Bradford because I don’t want to live there. Why on earth would he be applying for a job in London if he does not want to live here?
    Or maybe it is even worse. Did he apply for the job without even discussing it with his wife and family?

    I think it more likely he didn’t get the job and is saying he turned it down so he can look his players in the face and tell them to play for the shirt.
    Who is to say he applied for it? 
    Considering we were still interviewing today, I reckon there is a good chance that we asked to speak to Stockport, they said yes and then he said no thank you.
    A key indicator is the fact Rich Cawley never said it was as close as some of twitter accounts or rumours that was spreading. I don’t think he has rejected a job offer and I am quite pleased as I don’t think he would be a good appointment. 
    Saying you are not interested in applying does not mean you have turned down the job.
    It is also not was said by the individual telling the story.
  • Glad I haven't got a season ticket. Will be going Saturday & then that's my lot for a while. Daughter of to Uni & a house move all planned for the next 6 weeks


    Fuck me it's not that bad - it's only football.
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