Ryan Whelan is not a reliable source. I doubt it's even been offered formally to anyone yet, let alone been turned down.
He was the original source of him getting the job in the first place.
He’s just a bloke with a website and a Twitter blue tick trying to buy a bit of credibility by piggybacking on other established journos. I’m yet to be convinced he has his own reliable sources.
Look at any of his articles of any substance and it’s just a rehash of what Alan Nixon, Pete O’Rourke or Darren Witcoop have already reported.
Asked my mate about challinor and this is what I got… Can’t say it sounds too exciting and the general consensus I have seen from Stockport fans is he is struggling this year.
This sounds scarily familiar..
To be honest it sounds like the description of every Football League manager ever. It's all a variation of 'doesn't have a Plan B' which is basically supporter code for 'sometimes we lose and I think we could have done something else with all this hindsight I have so he's rubbish'. The subs thing is a pretty common complaint from fans as well. Though to be honest given we've only got about 8 fit professionals at any given time at Charlton a bloke who doesn't like to make any subs will feel right at home.
The last manager from League 2 did great, signed plenty of players from L2 as well for us. That ended well.
Hiring a successful L2 manager worked out horrendously for Rob Edwards and Luton as well.
How did it work out for Rob Edwards and Watford?
Worked out very well at Watford. He was in the top half of the table in 10th place after just 10 games and he got a years money when sacked. Win/win situation and now he has overachieved at Luton.
You mean he was 10th, mid table, like the Cowleys were when they got sacked?
The whole point is success is relative, and in the eye of the beholder.
Some say Jackson was a success for finishing midtable, some say he was a failure.
JJ wasn't a failure if you take a team from 22nd to 13 despite what the experts said on CL. If he was a failure we would have ended up in League 2. Not saying he was a success but he did well with and I quote many posters on CL. "The worse squad in living memory" By the Ipswich 4-0 there was chaos behind the scenes (Washington) as we hadn't reached the high target that had been set for Jackson from 22nd place.
Asked my mate about challinor and this is what I got… Can’t say it sounds too exciting and the general consensus I have seen from Stockport fans is he is struggling this year.
This sounds scarily familiar..
To be honest it sounds like the description of every Football League manager ever. It's all a variation of 'doesn't have a Plan B' which is basically supporter code for 'sometimes we lose and I think we could have done something else with all this hindsight I have so he's rubbish'. The subs thing is a pretty common complaint from fans as well. Though to be honest given we've only got about 8 fit professionals at any given time at Charlton a bloke who doesn't like to make any subs will feel right at home.
Yup I'd be quite happy with a manager that has a Plan A that they can actually successfully execute to get results more often than not.
Holden didn't have any plans, Garner had a plan A but couldn't execute and don't think JJ had a plan beyond play 532 either so it's been a while.
I applaud 👏 Scott & Methven looking at managers with League 2 & National League experience. Its a win all round for Charlton. Excellent to have a manager experienced in League 2 & National League given the direction Methven, Scott & his pals club are sending the club in.
These L2 / unemployed managers will also be cheap to hire & fire & perfect for pinning the blame on & distracting from the Methven & Scott genius strategy - when everything goes even more pearshaped.
Charlton supporters have the added benefit of getting used to the standard of football coming our wayin future seasons, so its not too much of a shock. Throw ins should improve though. Happy days !
Methven can also get those costs down by getting the budget down to national league / league two levels. Man of his word is Charlie. Not sure 🤔 why any Charlton supporter is unhappy given Scott & Methven solid preparation for the future.
Apart from a simple fact that CM has nothing to do with appointing a new manager .
I won't call you a prick because our leader has said not to. So I shall only think you are a prick
This is gonna be the worst potential ITK post of all time but fuck it.
Darren Moore just gave a talk at my job. Whilst saying goodbye to people Moore stated he is staying in London overnight and the host wished him luck for tomorrow.
No idea what he's doing tomorrow but hopefully he's interviewing to be our manager.
The last manager from League 2 did great, signed plenty of players from L2 as well for us. That ended well.
Hiring a successful L2 manager worked out horrendously for Rob Edwards and Luton as well.
How did it work out for Rob Edwards and Watford?
Worked out very well at Watford. He was in the top half of the table in 10th place after just 10 games and he got a years money when sacked. Win/win situation and now he has overachieved at Luton.
You mean he was 10th, mid table, like the Cowleys were when they got sacked?
The whole point is success is relative, and in the eye of the beholder.
Some say Jackson was a success for finishing midtable, some say he was a failure.
JJ wasn't a failure if you take a team from 22nd to 13 despite what the experts said on CL. If he was a failure we would have ended up in League 2. Not saying he was a success but he did well with and I quote many posters on CL. "The worse squad in living memory" By the Ipswich 4-0 there was chaos behind the scenes (Washington) as we hadn't reached the high target that had been set for Jackson from 22nd place.
But your completely missing the point.
Jackson got sacked for finishing 13th. Edwards got sacked for being 10th. Cowley got sacked for being 12th.
Some people will say they got sacked, therefore they failed. Some people will say they hadn't failed so shouldn't have been sacked. Some will say it was best for both sides if they parted ways.
There is no manager, they we are ever going to get, that has never failed AND has manages at at least league 1 level. That includes Powell, Bowyer, Richardson and anyone else you would care to name.
This is gonna be the worst potential ITK post of all time but fuck it.
Darren Moore just gave a talk at my job. Whilst saying goodbye to people Moore stated he is staying in London overnight and the host wished him luck for tomorrow.
No idea what he's doing tomorrow but hopefully he's interviewing to be our manager.
The last manager from League 2 did great, signed plenty of players from L2 as well for us. That ended well.
Hiring a successful L2 manager worked out horrendously for Rob Edwards and Luton as well.
How did it work out for Rob Edwards and Watford?
Worked out very well at Watford. He was in the top half of the table in 10th place after just 10 games and he got a years money when sacked. Win/win situation and now he has overachieved at Luton.
You mean he was 10th, mid table, like the Cowleys were when they got sacked?
The whole point is success is relative, and in the eye of the beholder.
Some say Jackson was a success for finishing midtable, some say he was a failure.
I applaud 👏 Scott & Methven looking at managers with League 2 & National League experience. Its a win all round for Charlton. Excellent to have a manager experienced in League 2 & National League given the direction Methven, Scott & his pals club are sending the club in.
These L2 / unemployed managers will also be cheap to hire & fire & perfect for pinning the blame on & distracting from the Methven & Scott genius strategy - when everything goes even more pearshaped.
Charlton supporters have the added benefit of getting used to the standard of football coming our wayin future seasons, so its not too much of a shock. Throw ins should improve though. Happy days !
Methven can also get those costs down by getting the budget down to national league / league two levels. Man of his word is Charlie. Not sure 🤔 why any Charlton supporter is unhappy given Scott & Methven solid preparation for the future.
Our best manager ever was not even a manager but a coach when he joined us and had never been a manager …… all managers have to start somewhere even Pep and co needed that break
J S was manager of Orient for a year before joining us, not a coach. 👍😊
You sure James, is your source better than the Plymouth Herald……………. Oh hang on a minute 😉
Challinor, Appleton , Cowley. Doesnt matter what order they will probably all have a go by the end of the season.
It will be a huge surprise imo that the absentee owners SE7 Partners SMT (Scott / Methven - it wasn't me, not me mate, everything going wrong is someone elses' fault, I only take credit for things that go well) hire is still in post by the end of the season.
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Look at any of his articles of any substance and it’s just a rehash of what Alan Nixon, Pete O’Rourke or Darren Witcoop have already reported.
JJ wasn't a failure if you take a team from 22nd to 13 despite what the experts said on CL.
If he was a failure we would have ended up in League 2.
Not saying he was a success but he did well with and I quote many posters on CL.
"The worse squad in living memory"
By the Ipswich 4-0 there was chaos behind the scenes (Washington) as we hadn't reached the high target that had been set for Jackson from 22nd place.
However if true, I do think that location and moving his family etc could have a massive say in what he would want to do.
Holden didn't have any plans, Garner had a plan A but couldn't execute and don't think JJ had a plan beyond play 532 either so it's been a while.
So I shall only think you are a prick
Doesnt matter what order they will probably all have a go by the end of the season.
Playing football manager isn't a job y'know
Jackson got sacked for finishing 13th.
Edwards got sacked for being 10th.
Cowley got sacked for being 12th.
Some people will say they got sacked, therefore they failed. Some people will say they hadn't failed so shouldn't have been sacked. Some will say it was best for both sides if they parted ways.
There is no manager, they we are ever going to get, that has never failed AND has manages at at least league 1 level. That includes Powell, Bowyer, Richardson and anyone else you would care to name.
That's if they know about us which I'm beginning to doubt