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Next Manager Search - August 2023
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But he hasn’t turned it down has he .Braziliance said:In regards to us allegedly being turned down I wonder if it's because of what we are offering and if there's an issue with wages and guarantees etc.
With all due respect if you're willing to be interviewed then you're foot is half way out the door from wherever you were/are anyway.
I am personally happy that the Stockport Manager turned us down. All the names that have been mentioned like Appleton, Cowley, Johnson have done better than him and then some.
What now concerns me is why are they saying no? We are offering it on a short term basis, are we offering a low salary, are we saying we don't have money for signings etc.
I don't see it as an insult getting rejected by a manager from a lower league, bigger clubs than us have been rejected by managers, it happens. More so want to know what is being said that is allegedly putting these candidates off1 -
According to this it looks unlikely he’s been offered the job, so stop flapping that he’s turned us down he’s probably just had an interview end of. We’re interviewing a lot of managers.
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I don't know, hence why I said allegedly, that's what I've read. I've now read two different managers have turned us down.Bedsaddick said:
But he hasn’t turned it down has he .Braziliance said:In regards to us allegedly being turned down I wonder if it's because of what we are offering and if there's an issue with wages and guarantees etc.
With all due respect if you're willing to be interviewed then you're foot is half way out the door from wherever you were/are anyway.
I am personally happy that the Stockport Manager turned us down. All the names that have been mentioned like Appleton, Cowley, Johnson have done better than him and then some.
What now concerns me is why are they saying no? We are offering it on a short term basis, are we offering a low salary, are we saying we don't have money for signings etc.
I don't see it as an insult getting rejected by a manager from a lower league, bigger clubs than us have been rejected by managers, it happens. More so want to know what is being said that is allegedly putting these candidates off
So I'm just asking if that is the case I wonder if it's because we are offering poor wages, a short term contract or lack of control over transfers etc. If of course we have been turned down0 -
Is managing a squad that should be "challenging" in the championship that much different to managing a squad that should be "challenging" in league 1?LargeAddick said:
10th in the Championship though.Cafc43v3r said:
You mean he was 10th, mid table, like the Cowleys were when they got sacked?soapboxsam said:Cafc43v3r said:
How did it work out for Rob Edwards and Watford?Callumcafc said:
Hiring a successful L2 manager worked out horrendously for Rob Edwards and Luton as well.StrikerFirmani said:The last manager from League 2 did great, signed plenty of players from L2 as well for us. That ended well.
Worked out very well at Watford.
He was in the top half of the table in 10th place after just 10 games and he got a years money when sacked. Win/win situation and now he has overachieved at Luton.
The whole point is success is relative, and in the eye of the beholder.
Some say Jackson was a success for finishing midtable, some say he was a failure.
All managers "fail" when they aren't backed and/or in control. Some occasionally fail when they are both, but that's actually quite rare when you look how many, about 30 a year, are sacked.
Of the 17(ish) managers we have had since Curbs they have basically all, ultimately failed. 2 of them should never have been appointed but I can, honestly inly think of one that was backed and failed.1 -
I wouldn’t imagine it’s wages . The latter is more likelyBraziliance said:
I don't know, hence why I said allegedly, that's what I've read. I've now read two different managers have turned us down.Bedsaddick said:
But he hasn’t turned it down has he .Braziliance said:In regards to us allegedly being turned down I wonder if it's because of what we are offering and if there's an issue with wages and guarantees etc.
With all due respect if you're willing to be interviewed then you're foot is half way out the door from wherever you were/are anyway.
I am personally happy that the Stockport Manager turned us down. All the names that have been mentioned like Appleton, Cowley, Johnson have done better than him and then some.
What now concerns me is why are they saying no? We are offering it on a short term basis, are we offering a low salary, are we saying we don't have money for signings etc.
I don't see it as an insult getting rejected by a manager from a lower league, bigger clubs than us have been rejected by managers, it happens. More so want to know what is being said that is allegedly putting these candidates off
So I'm just asking if that is the case I wonder if it's because we are offering poor wages, a short term contract or lack of control over transfers etc0 -
At this level, I think managers have something that works for a certain period, but then they don’t have the ability to change it once it gets worked out, or players transition. As you say, I don’t think some of the stuff we’ve seen in recent years even has a plan A associated with it.Jac_52 said:
Yup I'd be quite happy with a manager that has a Plan A that they can actually successfully execute to get results more often than not.Garrymanilow said:
To be honest it sounds like the description of every Football League manager ever. It's all a variation of 'doesn't have a Plan B' which is basically supporter code for 'sometimes we lose and I think we could have done something else with all this hindsight I have so he's rubbish'. The subs thing is a pretty common complaint from fans as well. Though to be honest given we've only got about 8 fit professionals at any given time at Charlton a bloke who doesn't like to make any subs will feel right at home.Braziliance said:
This sounds scarily familiar..000__Jaaaaay__000 said:Asked my mate about challinor and this is what I got… Can’t say it sounds too exciting and the general consensus I have seen from Stockport fans is he is struggling this year.
Holden didn't have any plans, Garner had a plan A but couldn't execute and don't think JJ had a plan beyond play 532 either so it's been a while.0 -
This is going to muddy the waters a bit I know... but i just walked past Nandos Bexley Heath and in one of the window tables i saw Challinor, Moore, Cowley and Powell sharing a whole chicken, a boneless platter, and some fully loaded chips. I can't be certain but i think Powell might have had a dish of spiced grains and butternut squash in front of him as well. Appeared to be discussing the virtues of long throw ins. Curbs was taking notes.18
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I work in QA on FM24 and yeah it's decent tbf!ForeverAddickted said:
What is it you do there if you dont mind me asking?ProperCharlton said:
I only get 5 free copies... Sorry mate 😐😂Callumcafc said:
Gizzadiscount on FM24 :-) @ProperCharltonSELR_addicks said:ProperCharlton said:This is gonna be the worst potential ITK post of all time but fuck it.
Darren Moore just gave a talk at my job. Whilst saying goodbye to people Moore stated he is staying in London overnight and the host wished him luck for tomorrow.
No idea what he's doing tomorrow but hopefully he's interviewing to be our manager.
Playing football manager isn't a job y'know
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As much as we all want to know who the new manager is going to be, the decision makers don't need to rush, as at this stage even if a new manager is announced now it is likely going to be Pearce in charge for Saturday still.
Gives them two weeks before our next important game.1 -
More likely to find out if it's someone like Cowley or Appleton if they're there on Saturday in the stands.
If there's no out of work managers there on Saturday it's more likely to be someone already in a job.
I doubt we'll find out before next week1 -
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I’ve never been more of a fan of WIOTOS than I am right now.
All this speculating and posturing is so tiresome.10 -
Reverse psychology in play here.ROKERITE said:
I'm a bettor but next manager markets are something I never touch. It would be a surprise if Charlton chose Challinor (how's that for alliteration?) but Stockport would be a good next job for the Cowleys.ForeverAddickted said:All those who have put money on Cowley are gonna be disappointed then.
Challinor is now the favourite
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Do you mean we have got Boy George as our next boss?thenewbie said:
By George I think you have solved itTo_Be_Franck said:What if...all these names being leaked is to lengthen the odds on our actual appointment...Charlie and his mates all lump on someone at 33/1, appoint them and...bingo...funds for a striker on deadline day2 -
the squad is a shockerSam_777 said:Hard to tell if people are being genuine or facetious when saying legendary managers couldn’t get a tune out this mob. Regardless of how there may be some right crap in this team, a competent manager should be able to out-compete at least 17 of the shite clubs in this division & get top 6.I’m not accepting the squad is not good enough as an excuse, it’s such a red herring.These players are not coached correctly & regardless of what Holden said, there was no identity being built, no clear style, you can see that from his incoherent team selections.Garner was pants in the end but at least you could see a distinct style of play.Whoever they bring in needs to have a clear and concise idea of how they want to play & stick to it. Like Russell Martin said, have a plan A & don’t worry about b,c,d etc. just make plan A better.
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At this rate Dean Holden will have a chance of being hired again16
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Lovely Swedish player - lean and quick.Lewis Coaches said:
We had him around 2001 and he was acquired from Benfica.
Those were the days6 -
Charlie boy has some support.vff said:
My apologies. Charlie Methven nothing to do with anything going on at Charlton. It's all someone else’s doing. No responsibility for anything at all - budget, strategy, useless plan - working for free. Maligned unfairly. Please can you message my sincere apologies.RonnieMoore said:
Apart from a simple fact that CM has nothing to do with appointing a new manager .vff said:I applaud 👏 Scott & Methven looking at managers with League 2 & National League experience. Its a win all round for Charlton. Excellent to have a manager experienced in League 2 & National League given the direction Methven, Scott & his pals club are sending the club in.These L2 / unemployed managers will also be cheap to hire & fire & perfect for pinning the blame on & distracting from the Methven & Scott genius strategy - when everything goes even more pearshaped.Charlton supporters have the added benefit of getting used to the standard of football coming our wayin future seasons, so its not too much of a shock. Throw ins should improve though. Happy days !Methven can also get those costs down by getting the budget down to national league / league two levels. Man of his word is Charlie. Not sure 🤔 why any Charlton supporter is unhappy given Scott & Methven solid preparation for the future.
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He ran around like Bambi on Ice... Got his autograph in Bexleyheath Shopping Centre (Along with Anthony Barness) prior to us winning the League @ Blackburn.BigDiddy said:
Lovely Swedish player - lean and quick.Lewis Coaches said:
We has him around 2001 and he was acquired from Benfica.
Those were the days5 -
Can't confirm if this was the same day but I once met him in WH Smith in Bexleyheath. Was very nice from what I can remember as I no doubt talked nonsense to him.ForeverAddickted said:
He ran around like Bambi on Ice... Got his autograph in Bexleyheath Shopping Centre (Along with Anthony Barness) prior to us winning the League @ Blackburn.BigDiddy said:
Lovely Swedish player - lean and quick.Lewis Coaches said:
We has him around 2001 and he was acquired from Benfica.
Those were the days
First goal that came to mind was him scoring away at Derby, ran from the halfway line before putting it past the keeper.5 -
He was the first ever Charlton player I put in my FA Premium Loog sticker album back in 2000.
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Didn’t Darren Moore get sacked for being in 4th place with Wednesday?Cafc43v3r said:
But your completely missing the point.soapboxsam said:Cafc43v3r said:
You mean he was 10th, mid table, like the Cowleys were when they got sacked?soapboxsam said:Cafc43v3r said:
How did it work out for Rob Edwards and Watford?Callumcafc said:
Hiring a successful L2 manager worked out horrendously for Rob Edwards and Luton as well.StrikerFirmani said:The last manager from League 2 did great, signed plenty of players from L2 as well for us. That ended well.
Worked out very well at Watford.
He was in the top half of the table in 10th place after just 10 games and he got a years money when sacked. Win/win situation and now he has overachieved at Luton.
The whole point is success is relative, and in the eye of the beholder.
Some say Jackson was a success for finishing midtable, some say he was a failure.
JJ wasn't a failure if you take a team from 22nd to 13 despite what the experts said on CL.
If he was a failure we would have ended up in League 2.
Not saying he was a success but he did well with and I quote many posters on CL.
"The worse squad in living memory"
By the Ipswich 4-0 there was chaos behind the scenes (Washington) as we hadn't reached the high target that had been set for Jackson from 22nd place.
Jackson got sacked for finishing 13th.
Edwards got sacked for being 10th.
Cowley got sacked for being 12th.
Some people will say they got sacked, therefore they failed. Some people will say they hadn't failed so shouldn't have been sacked. Some will say it was best for both sides if they parted ways.
There is no manager, they we are ever going to get, that has never failed AND has manages at at least league 1 level. That includes Powell, Bowyer, Richardson and anyone else you would care to name.3 -
I had a cracking conversation with him in the bogs at the player of the year do when he had a massive cast on his leg.ForeverAddickted said:
He ran around like Bambi on Ice... Got his autograph in Bexleyheath Shopping Centre (Along with Anthony Barness) prior to us winning the League @ Blackburn.BigDiddy said:
Lovely Swedish player - lean and quick.Lewis Coaches said:
We has him around 2001 and he was acquired from Benfica.
Those were the days
Those were the days.
Still never worked out what two of our players were doing in a cubical together the year before mind.10 -
I was going to question the Barness autograph, but he was with us until 2000ForeverAddickted said:
He ran around like Bambi on Ice... Got his autograph in Bexleyheath Shopping Centre (Along with Anthony Barness) prior to us winning the League @ Blackburn.BigDiddy said:
Lovely Swedish player - lean and quick.Lewis Coaches said:
We has him around 2001 and he was acquired from Benfica.
Those were the days1 -
I’d be really shocked if we announced a manager until after this weekend. I think a win and Pearce will have a huge chance of getting the job. I definitely think Rodwell and Methven will want to see if he can do it. Potentially a much cheaper option, with a Charlton connection who the new mob can talk about ‘promoting from within’2
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There’s a good time coming, but it’s a good time coming!0
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Garry Monk?0
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Marry Gonk1
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I genuinely thought he’d left us by 97cabbles said:
I was going to question the Barness autograph, but he was with us until 2000ForeverAddickted said:
He ran around like Bambi on Ice... Got his autograph in Bexleyheath Shopping Centre (Along with Anthony Barness) prior to us winning the League @ Blackburn.BigDiddy said:
Lovely Swedish player - lean and quick.Lewis Coaches said:
We has him around 2001 and he was acquired from Benfica.
Those were the days0 -
Recommended by Scott Minto when he was at BenficaBigDiddy said:
Lovely Swedish player - lean and quick.Lewis Coaches said:
We had him around 2001 and he was acquired from Benfica.
Those were the days2 -
He had, then came back. Was in a suit for a pile on at Wembley.cabbles said:
I genuinely thought he’d left us by 97cabbles said:
I was going to question the Barness autograph, but he was with us until 2000ForeverAddickted said:
He ran around like Bambi on Ice... Got his autograph in Bexleyheath Shopping Centre (Along with Anthony Barness) prior to us winning the League @ Blackburn.BigDiddy said:
Lovely Swedish player - lean and quick.Lewis Coaches said:
We has him around 2001 and he was acquired from Benfica.
Those were the days1
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