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  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,484
    edited September 2023
    Wheresmeticket? said:
    https://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/90815/has-bowyer-lost-it/p1

    That's just one.  It's 158 pages long so happy reading!
    Cheers mate.

    Just thought that if the interviews were that infamous, someone could've reeled off a few quotes
  • colthe3rd
    colthe3rd Posts: 8,486
    covered_end_junior said:
    colthe3rd said:
    People who want Bowyer back have extremely short memories. You forget just how bad things were, lots of talk about how toxic the place was. Just go back and look at some of his post match interviews to remind yourselves.
    Bowyer had a fantastic first 6 months with us and did well just getting us into the playoffs. 

    He then got us promoted. Almost kept us up with a poor squad and an absolute shambles behind the scenes + working and managing a team through covid. 

    Yes his final few months were poor but we need someone to come in and have an impact straight away, something Bowyer has proven he can do. 

    All in all it took about 3 years for it to go wrong under Bowyer, most managers don’t last that long anyway. 

    We could do far worse. Anyway, according to Cawley no approach has been made.
    Yeah this is the one thing that is slightly making me doubt myself about Bowyer coming back that he did have that immediate impact. However I do think a big part is the personalities in the squad then likes of Taylor, Pearce, Bielik etc seemed to be the types that would respond well to that more direct approach. Hard to know with all the new signings what they'd be like but regardless it would seem more of a short term approach.
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    Gribbo said:
    Wheresmeticket? said:
    https://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/90815/has-bowyer-lost-it/p1

    That's just one.  It's 158 pages long so happy reading!
    Cheers mate.

    Just thought that if the interviews were that infamous, someone could've reeled off a few quotes
    :) I've slept since then.
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,484
    Wheresmeticket? said:
    https://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/90815/has-bowyer-lost-it/p1

    That's just one.  It's 158 pages long so happy reading!

    Scanning that thread, it seemed a couple of posters had spoken to some players who said that Bowyer was a bit of a bully. It don't really go into detail (from what I read), but I wonder what it used to be like in the dressing room with the likes of Cloughy etc. Not sure if times have moved on in the football dressing room as it has in other industries, but looking around the managers in the English leagues, I can imagine there's a few who like to throw a few f***s about when things aren’t going right on the pitch.


  • Karim_myBagheri
    Karim_myBagheri Posts: 12,697
    Gribbo said:
    Wheresmeticket? said:
    https://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/90815/has-bowyer-lost-it/p1

    That's just one.  It's 158 pages long so happy reading!

    Scanning that thread, it seemed a couple of posters had spoken to some players who said that Bowyer was a bit of a bully. It don't really go into detail (from what I read), but I wonder what it used to be like in the dressing room with the likes of Cloughy etc. Not sure if times have moved on in the football dressing room as it has in other industries, but looking around the managers in the English leagues, I can imagine there's a few who like to throw a few f***s about when things aren’t going right on the pitch.


    It has. you can't even have a light ale and half time cig anymore. 
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    Gribbo said:
    Wheresmeticket? said:
    https://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/90815/has-bowyer-lost-it/p1

    That's just one.  It's 158 pages long so happy reading!

    Scanning that thread, it seemed a couple of posters had spoken to some players who said that Bowyer was a bit of a bully. It don't really go into detail (from what I read), but I wonder what it used to be like in the dressing room with the likes of Cloughy etc. Not sure if times have moved on in the football dressing room as it has in other industries, but looking around the managers in the English leagues, I can imagine there's a few who like to throw a few f***s about when things aren’t going right on the pitch.


    I think you are right - and some will think it's ok, and others won't.  So that is one of the issues that created a lot of division and infighting on this forum.  It all got a bit tedious.  I'm going to leave it there as enough was said at the time for me and I am not keen to resurrect the whole thing.
  • bingaddick
    bingaddick Posts: 8,181
    Of course we need a manager and hopefully one who will propel us upwards and out of this dire miasmic swamp we have been swimming in for the past few years.

    In my lifetime as a fan, the most successful managers we have had have been 

    Andy Nelson - got us promoted out of this division 
    Mike Bailey - got us promoted out of this division 
    Lennie Lawrence got us up to the top division and kept us there for a few seasons 
    Curbs - got us promoted twice to the top division and established us as a PL team 
    Chris Powell - got us promoted out of this division 
    Lee Bowyer - got us promoted out of this division 

    Of these 6, only Nelson and Bailey had previous managerial careers and Bailey - only one year before he joined us.

    It seems to me that all of the sifting and the recruitment has been manifestly on average much less successful when we have brought in those from outside.

    Lawrence, Curbs and Bowyer were appointed at times of relative crisis when there were no or few other options.

    So maybe Pearce should be given the job. Our history shows that someone like him is more likely to be successful.

    Just my opinion.
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,350
    Can we just get all the applicants to do the Crossbar Challenge at half time?

    Winner gets a £125,000 pay off and is allowed to go home.
  • SouthLincsAddick
    SouthLincsAddick Posts: 569
    edited September 2023
    seth plum said:
    It is easy to say because we won out, but on both occasions I found the Sunderland fans to be gracious. 
    After the latest one I was commiserating with a Sunderland fan on the tube and just before she got off the train she kissed me sweetly on the cheek.
    And I am an ugly bastard.
    Apart from @ROKERITE gentle ribbing, Sunderland fans are the best I’ve come across. So many congratulated us after both games, often with a tear or two in their eyes. We were all singing anti Shearer songs with them in the pub before the 4-4, it was a right laugh and made the day even better.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    Gravesend_Addick said:
    Surprised Jason Pearce is 33/1

    A win today with a decent performance & there's a good chance he gets the job IMO
    I wonder what the reaction to a recent U16 manager from any other club would be if they were linked with the Charlton job. 
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  • JakePatel765
    JakePatel765 Posts: 9
    I’ve just been told it’s going to be Phil Neville. Take it however you want
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,000
    Well based on today's game I think we can rule Pearce out. Please. PLEASE.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,314
    JakePatel765 said:
    I’ve just been told it’s going to be Phil Neville. Take it however you want
    A wild Palace fan appeared 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,304
    I've heard there has been an exodus of "Managers" from the Directors Box after that half

    All racing each other back to the Job Centre
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Who ever it is needs to be a miracle worker tbh.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,304
    GIVE THE JOB TO JASON!!
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,484
    Any faces would've been easy to pick out, there was only about 80 people there
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    And now we’ve got Pearcey the reds are going up…
  • Brownie12
    Brownie12 Posts: 1,525
    Appleton was there today.
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,476
    But Colin said it was widely known that Cowley had got it.
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  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,000
    edited September 2023
    thenewbie said:
    Well based on today's game I think we can rule Pearce out. Please. PLEASE.
    Well this aged fantastically...


  • Brownie12
    Brownie12 Posts: 1,525
    cfgs said:
    But Colin said it was widely known that Cowley had got it.
    That doesn’t mean that Appleton can’t go to watch games.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,559
    Brownie12 said:
    Appleton was there today.
    Out of interest where was he sitting?
  • Silverdreammachine
    Silverdreammachine Posts: 370
    Bowyer and Curbs would be great, would bring the crowds back.
    Remember the good times ''Every saturday we follow the boys in red and white,
    and now wev'e got Lee Bowyer, we're f-ckin' dynamite''.
    Bring it on please! With JP to help them!
  • JohnnyH2
    JohnnyH2 Posts: 5,342
    edited September 2023
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  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    Showmetheway2gohome said:
    Appleton has done good at this level what has he done exactly 
    Punctuation is your friend.
  • ct_addick
    ct_addick Posts: 4,333
    Not Bowyer.....the football at the end was dire and he was calling players out.....please someone else
  • _MrDick
    _MrDick Posts: 13,103
    My gut instinct says it’s gonna be Michael Appleton 
  • alburyaddick
    alburyaddick Posts: 574
    Appleton’s record as a manager is shockingly awful - I’d take the Cowleys over him any day
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