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Next Manager Search - August 2023

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  • JamesSeed said:
    Someone at the game saying it’s Appleton. 
    (Not the best manager, the new manager). 
    We are concluding interviews tomorrow so I doubt anyone has been chosen, yet
  • Addick_8 said:
    JamesSeed said:
    Someone at the game saying it’s Appleton. 
    (Not the best manager, the new manager). 
    We are concluding interviews tomorrow so I doubt anyone has been chosen, yet
    That’s what I thought. Why bother to have interviews if they’ve picked their man. 
    Only time will tell I guess. 
  • My money’s on Les Reed.   
    Changed my mind.   Les Dennis.  
    Changed my mind again. 

    Les Miserables.   

    Should have been my first thought really.   That’s 10 Bob I’ll never see again. 
  • JamesSeed said:
    Someone at the game saying it’s Appleton. 
    (Not the best manager, the new manager). 
    Someone at the game is just watching the bookies odds…

    We’ve had Bowyer, Cowley, Challinor and Appleton all go very short odds and then immediately drift back out as soon as the next whisper comes along and someone sticks £20 on.
  • JamesSeed said:
    Someone at the game saying it’s Appleton. 
    (Not the best manager, the new manager). 
    Someone at the game is just watching the bookies odds…

    We’ve had Bowyer, Cowley, Challinor and Appleton all go very short odds and then immediately drift back out as soon as the next whisper comes along and someone sticks £20 on.
    Not sure anyone has been as low as 4/6 before now though.
  • Scott was talking about bringing in a performance manager in one of his early interviews - wonder if we’re getting one of them as well and if so, what will Scott do ? Guessing he will review the performance of the performance manager ? 
  • Richard J said:
    People seem to forget Lennie Lawrence was a PE teacher.
    Mourinho wasn’t even that.

    (I am in no way comparing Cowley to Mourinho)
  • edited September 2023
    I will never understand how an interview is going to help you find the right manager. It just makes the people doing the interviews feel important. Different skills are required to do a good interview and be a good football manager.
  • I will never understand how an interview is going to help you find the right manager. It just makes the people doing the interviews feel important. Different skills are required to do a good interview and be a good football manager.
    Probably helps if u can talk about players and tactics though 
  • Kips said:
    JamesSeed said:
    Someone at the game saying it’s Appleton. 
    (Not the best manager, the new manager). 
    Someone at the game is just watching the bookies odds…

    We’ve had Bowyer, Cowley, Challinor and Appleton all go very short odds and then immediately drift back out as soon as the next whisper comes along and someone sticks £20 on.
    Not sure anyone has been as low as 4/6 before now though.
    Someone was 1/2 at some point, I think Bowyer 
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  • Some are saying 'no thanks' to certain names based on their past teams  reputations for style of play, but given where we are now, is anything less important?

    Whoever gets the job needs to focus on organizing the defence better, getting us fitter, making us harder to beat and on winning more games than losing. That's all and it's more than enough for now.

    Better quality signings won't come in future if results don't improve as today's player knows us to be an established average L1 club regardless of our past.  I doubt any teams in the football league fear playing us and  there isn't a single one I'm confident we'd beat at present, not even Pompey!
  • I will never understand how an interview is going to help you find the right manager. It just makes the people doing the interviews feel important. Different skills are required to do a good interview and be a good football manager.
    How would you find the right manager?
  • JamesSeed said:
    Someone at the game saying it’s Appleton. 
    (Not the best manager, the new manager). 
    Typical as out of all the names mentioned he was the least favourable for me..
    IF true then it’s scrapping the bottom of a very bad barrel.  I’ve got zero time for Appleton.  Got a bit of credit for managing Pompey during their financial crisis many years ago, and since then has done pretty nothing other than take Oxford up from league two about 10 years ago now.

    I think we’re catching the Cowley’s on the way down from the peak of their managerial career and they will struggle, but if we’re appointing Appleton, we’re picking someone up off the bottom of the basement floor in terms of what he can offer and I predict he’ll be out by March next year, if he can even last that long.

    Obviously just a rumour, but we’ve reached rock bottom if this is who we get from CM and co
  • Appleton just feels so uninspiring. Was decent at Lincoln with a load of loanees but bar that spell not a lot to write home about. 
  • I will never understand how an interview is going to help you find the right manager. It just makes the people doing the interviews feel important. Different skills are required to do a good interview and be a good football manager.
    To make sure the manager isn't a dick?
    To make sure the manager fits in
    To make sure the manager is aware of the clubs vision
    To learn the managers strengths
    To learn the managers weaknesses
    To discuss the managers previous successes and how the skills used in that success can be transfered
    To ascertain the managers salary expectations
    i could go on

    how would you select a new manager? Win ratios from wiki?
     Why didn't Powell have to do any of that then?
  • I will never understand how an interview is going to help you find the right manager. It just makes the people doing the interviews feel important. Different skills are required to do a good interview and be a good football manager.
    To make sure the manager isn't a dick?
    To make sure the manager fits in
    To make sure the manager is aware of the clubs vision
    To learn the managers strengths
    To learn the managers weaknesses
    To discuss the managers previous successes and how the skills used in that success can be transfered
    To ascertain the managers salary expectations
    i could go on

    how would you select a new manager? Win ratios from wiki?
    Agree with all this and suspect one of the important questions will be ‘how will they feel being a head coach and working with players they are provided, rather than choose themselves?’ Head coach vs manager has been referenced more than it’s fair share. Only consolation now vs previous regime is that I do believe Scott has a network and will be trying to bring as much talent and various styles to the squad as he can. The black box will either merely support the process or act as a doorstop.
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  • Perhaps 🤔 we are being filmed for a new Netflix documentary and the managers interviewed are saying no way I’m putting myself out there I’ll never get a job again ! ! ! 
  • Rothko said:
    My view on Parker as a manager is deeply affected by how he ended at Bournemouth. Threw the club under the bus after the Liverpool game, and was shown how wrong he was by what Gary O’Neill did after him. Just gives me the feeling he isn’t emotionally mature enough when there are difficult times
    Gary O'Neil was given money to spend in January tho...
  • I think it doesn’t matter who we get in, the defence fundamentally isn’t good enough for this level and any manager is going to struggle to fix that 
  • The bit they can’t agree is for the manager to be self employed and can be dispensed with with no notice and no pay off.
  • Has Jack Ross never been mentioned?  Out of work. Known to Methven etc…….
  • I will never understand how an interview is going to help you find the right manager. It just makes the people doing the interviews feel important. Different skills are required to do a good interview and be a good football manager.
    To make sure the manager isn't a dick?
    To make sure the manager fits in
    To make sure the manager is aware of the clubs vision
    To learn the managers strengths
    To learn the managers weaknesses
    To discuss the managers previous successes and how the skills used in that success can be transfered
    To ascertain the managers salary expectations
    i could go on

    how would you select a new manager? Win ratios from wiki?
     Why didn't Powell have to do any of that then?
    Because they were offering him the role on an interim basis while they went through that process with potential permanent managers. He would have effectively been doing what Jason has done for the last 2 weeks. Albeit with the potential to stay on if he did well.
  • cabbles said:
    JamesSeed said:
    Someone at the game saying it’s Appleton. 
    (Not the best manager, the new manager). 
    Typical as out of all the names mentioned he was the least favourable for me..
    IF true then it’s scrapping the bottom of a very bad barrel.  I’ve got zero time for Appleton.  Got a bit of credit for managing Pompey during their financial crisis many years ago, and since then has done pretty nothing other than take Oxford up from league two about 10 years ago now.

    I think we’re catching the Cowley’s on the way down from the peak of their managerial career and they will struggle, but if we’re appointing Appleton, we’re picking someone up off the bottom of the basement floor in terms of what he can offer and I predict he’ll be out by March next year, if he can even last that long.

    Obviously just a rumour, but we’ve reached rock bottom if this is who we get from CM and co
    They gave us Holden as their first choice, not nearly as experienced as Appleton in L1. He's enjoyed moderate success in it too, enough for a championship club to take a gamble on, his most recent job where he was sacked following a poor run of form.

    Interesting to note that Mick McCarthy took over from him there to lose 9 out of 14 games in charge and then his job, effectively sealing their relegation.

    He's not my pick, but I don't regard Appleton as basement floor and think there are far worse and less qualified managers out there for the job in hand here.
  • edited September 2023
    JamesSeed said:
    Someone at the game saying it’s Appleton. 
    (Not the best manager, the new manager). 
    Someone at the game is just watching the bookies odds…

    We’ve had Bowyer, Cowley, Challinor and Appleton all go very short odds and then immediately drift back out as soon as the next whisper comes along and someone sticks £20 on.
    Not from bookies’ odds. But if they’re still interviewing perhaps the person who told him has got the wrong end of the stick.
    Personally I’d like it to be someone from left field that we’ve overlooked, or know little about (so long as it makes sense of course). Not massively inspired by any of those being talked about. Moore and Bowyer are my favoured options I suppose. 
  • edited September 2023
    I will never understand how an interview is going to help you find the right manager. It just makes the people doing the interviews feel important. Different skills are required to do a good interview and be a good football manager.
    To make sure the manager isn't a dick?
    To make sure the manager fits in
    To make sure the manager is aware of the clubs vision
    To learn the managers strengths
    To learn the managers weaknesses
    To discuss the managers previous successes and how the skills used in that success can be transfered
    To ascertain the managers salary expectations
    i could go on

    how would you select a new manager? Win ratios from wiki?
     Why didn't Powell have to do any of that then?
    Ineptness from the board, going on name and previous achievements only. Picking a name to appease a disheartened fan base

    would you ever employ someone without interviewing them 
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