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Michael Appleton - March 2025 appointed Shrewsbury manager (p124)

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  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,735
    seth plum said:
    seth plum said:
    Who is it that decides the actual sacking?
    Think you will find it was decided before the game.
    Yeah could well be, but decided by the billionaires? Fans advisor? Rodwell? The players?
    Somebody presumably has the power to decide, Appleton said he never walks away from a challenge so who pushed him?
    We did and quite rightly so . 
  • Thank heavens. 
    What a mistake he was. 
    Curbs and Brownie dream team anyone ?
    Just said that to the wife!
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,559
    seth plum said:
    seth plum said:
    Who is it that decides the actual sacking?
    Think you will find it was decided before the game.
    Yeah could well be, but decided by the billionaires? Fans advisor? Rodwell? The players?
    Somebody presumably has the power to decide, Appleton said he never walks away from a challenge so who pushed him?
    Think the players decided weeks ago he was a busted flush.
  • Valley Ant
    Valley Ant Posts: 467
    edited January 2024
    seth plum said:
    seth plum said:
    Who is it that decides the actual sacking?
    Think you will find it was decided before the game.
    Yeah could well be, but decided by the billionaires? Fans advisor? Rodwell? The players?
    Somebody presumably has the power to decide, Appleton said he never walks away from a challenge so who pushed him?
    I would have thought it must have been Andy Scott's recommendation explained to and discussed with the rest of the SMT before receiving final approval from Rodwell.
    If it wasn't then I would argue that the SMT isn't operating as it should.
  • IIanJRO said:
    It's time for the second coming
    Trouble is there pride wouldn’t even consider asking or consulting him.
    Isint this the same lot who did ask Chris Powell if he would work alongside Holden?
    And your point is?
    Well quite obvious really. They didn’t seem to have an issue with pride when speaking with Chris Powell, so why would they with Curbs if they felt it necessary?
    But only to assist, did they think that would ever be acceptable? Plus not wanting to be wrong about their own expertise.

    And why are you sticking up for them!
    I’m not sticking up for anyone, it’s not the school playground.

    Im just pointing out what I think is a flaw in your logic. I don’t think pride will have anything to do with whether they would ask Curbs or not. It is whether they rate him now or not, and that’s a different conversation. 
  • He joins Andy Nelson and Jose Riga as the only managers to be sacked twice. 
    Jose Riga wasn’t sacked the first time in 2016 he was employed to end of the season.March 2016 to May 2016.
  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,254
    CH4RLTON said:
    I’d take Jones all day 

  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    seth plum said:
    seth plum said:
    Who is it that decides the actual sacking?
    Think you will find it was decided before the game.
    Yeah could well be, but decided by the billionaires? Fans advisor? Rodwell? The players?
    Somebody presumably has the power to decide, Appleton said he never walks away from a challenge so who pushed him?
    Surely it must have been Andy Scott's recommendation explained to and discussed with the rest of the SMT before receiving final approval from Rodwell.
    Sounds nice and corporate and procedural and organised when put like that. The whole board of shareholders discussed things then put it to a vote, and the majority shareholding decided to sack Appleton within half an hour.
    Doesn’t sound credible to me.

  • Nathan Jones gets my vote. Think he was in charge for one game which we won so has a 100% win rate ! Think he would do well. Apart from Jacko none of the last lot in that list would be anywhere near anyone’s preference for a manager. So sick of this constant merrygo round of managers. They had better get it right this time otherwise it really could be Division 2 . Can’t believe we are even contemplating that possibility. 
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  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,221
    Appleton gone finally but if you are having a stake in the ownership of this football club would you not be asking questions of the paid employees above his pay grade and asking what the hell is going on here  

    It’s not right from top to bottom
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,033
    Thought it was a boring unambitious appointment from the start and it somehow turned out even worse than that. Never seen a manager that seems so disinterested in the club he's managing. 

    Think he'll struggle to get another League 1 club after this. 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    Chizz said:
    I just think it's a bit unfair that they sacked him before he had a chance to do the tunnel jump tonight 


    What's a Tunnel jump ?
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,458
    Very much doubt we are out of the woods yet.

    We've now got a 15 man or whatever it is ownership group that have lost all faith in the SMT that appointed them and probably now all non collectively think they  know what's best!

    Buckle up.
  • queensland_addick
    queensland_addick Posts: 7,547
    edited January 2024
    It's now a salvage job until the end of the season.
    We don't need to be thinking long term at this stage, we just need to be thinking survival, then reassess if we do manage to stay up.

    Whoever comes in, will need to have a great affinity with the club and the fans, because we badly need the fans to get 100% behind the team from the outset, even if we lose to Blackpool, play ugly football, or take a while to finally turn things around.
    The manager, team and fans need to be 100% united in the survival mission.

    It would be a no lose situation for whoever takes it on, they could not possibly do any worse than Appleton.
    Only three names who would be capable of getting the fans 100% behind them immediately and until the end of the season are:

    Curbs, C Powell and maybe Bowyer.

    If we can manage to stay up, the future could then be looking bright with the squad that we are currently building and players returning from injury.
  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,254

    cabbles said:
    Has @ronniemoore confirmed he’s gone yet

    Give him time
  • cafc_harry
    cafc_harry Posts: 3,360
    Mental night, never seen a team clearly turn on the manager before even going down the tunnel before, never thought I’d celebrate a sacking in the oak either. 
  • Clearly lost the players. Feel sorry for Alperton. I imagine coach rather than manager is what he excels at. "Out on the grass" is where he should be and not in management. Perhaps we could consider this in the next appt. I don't really see Bowyer, Jackson, Adkins, Alperton et al as being solid managers. Adkins aside, all needed a Curbishley as a DoF (adkins needed a lobotomy with his blairite nonsense) none were really men with a longterm vision or at least didn't strike me as such. They were either too petulant and childish (Bowysr) or nice (Jacko, Alperton, Holden) 

    Let's get in an absolute rough house with a pair of old time "b******s" (warnock?!) and a strategy to get this club back up to where it belongs and deserves to be...

    ...12th in League 1!! 


  • Mental night, never seen a team clearly turn on the manager before even going down the tunnel before, never thought I’d celebrate a sacking in the oak either. 
    Hope you haven't drunk it dry

  • boggzy
    boggzy Posts: 3,595
    Mental night, never seen a team clearly turn on the manager before even going down the tunnel before, never thought I’d celebrate a sacking in the oak either. 
    What happened exactly at the end?
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  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,563
    On a humanity basis i feel sorry for Appleton, for whatever reason he failed and had to go, with other regimes he would have gone sooner.

    The problem is he has left us as even more of a nut job club and it is difficult to see nay decent manager wanting to come, whilst we are in the state we are and you cannot see us getting out of this state without a decent manager.  Every time someone mentions a decentish manager, I ask why would they come here and the answer is I don't know.

    To attract the right calibre of manager the Club needs a clear realistic achievable strategy and plan and budget that will achieve it both on and off the playing field and then sell it ti decent managers who can pick it uo and run with it.  It maybe that we run this season with an interim playing management team while we set the plan and then go out and sell it to decent managers, to come in in May.  
  • CafcSCP
    CafcSCP Posts: 1,464
    boggzy said:
    Mental night, never seen a team clearly turn on the manager before even going down the tunnel before, never thought I’d celebrate a sacking in the oak either. 
    What happened exactly at the end?
    A number of the senior pros including dobbo just stood in the D chatting. 
    They weren’t rushing down the tunnel, so something was obviously up 
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,347
    boggzy said:
    Mental night, never seen a team clearly turn on the manager before even going down the tunnel before, never thought I’d celebrate a sacking in the oak either. 
    What happened exactly at the end?
    They let him walk down the tunnel by himself and all stayed out on the pitch. I'm not sure if he even went over to them. 
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    Oakster2 Posts: 312
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  • Clearly lost the players. Feel sorry for Alperton. I imagine coach rather than manager is what he excels at. "Out on the grass" is where he should be and not in management. Perhaps we could consider this in the next appt. I don't really see Bowyer, Jackson, Adkins, Alperton et al as being solid managers. Adkins aside, all needed a Curbishley as a DoF (adkins needed a lobotomy with his blairite nonsense) none were really men with a longterm vision or at least didn't strike me as such. They were either too petulant and childish (Bowysr) or nice (Jacko, Alperton, Holden) 

    Let's get in an absolute rough house with a pair of old time "b******s" (warnock?!) and a strategy to get this club back up to where it belongs and deserves to be...

    ...12th in League 1!! 

    There's not been much evidence in recent weeks that he's any good "out on the grass" either...
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,728
    Seen some fans on twitter waited outside the west stand to talk to him after the game but we're moved on by security. 
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,559
    CafcSCP said:
    boggzy said:
    Mental night, never seen a team clearly turn on the manager before even going down the tunnel before, never thought I’d celebrate a sacking in the oak either. 
    What happened exactly at the end?
    A number of the senior pros including dobbo just stood in the D chatting. 
    They weren’t rushing down the tunnel, so something was obviously up 
    The only explanation is they knew what was coming, so did Appleton, so begs the question why was he even in charge for the game?
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,559
    Clearly lost the players. Feel sorry for Alperton. I imagine coach rather than manager is what he excels at. "Out on the grass" is where he should be and not in management. Perhaps we could consider this in the next appt. I don't really see Bowyer, Jackson, Adkins, Alperton et al as being solid managers. Adkins aside, all needed a Curbishley as a DoF (adkins needed a lobotomy with his blairite nonsense) none were really men with a longterm vision or at least didn't strike me as such. They were either too petulant and childish (Bowysr) or nice (Jacko, Alperton, Holden) 

    Let's get in an absolute rough house with a pair of old time "b******s" (warnock?!) and a strategy to get this club back up to where it belongs and deserves to be...

    ...12th in League 1!! 

    If he were any good on the grass we wouldn’t be conceding stupid goals all the time. 
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    CafcSCP said:
    boggzy said:
    Mental night, never seen a team clearly turn on the manager before even going down the tunnel before, never thought I’d celebrate a sacking in the oak either. 
    What happened exactly at the end?
    A number of the senior pros including dobbo just stood in the D chatting. 
    They weren’t rushing down the tunnel, so something was obviously up 
    The only explanation is they knew what was coming, so did Appleton, so begs the question why was he even in charge for the game?
    He was clearly told he had to win it to keep his job and that is why we were still trying to win it after the sending off.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,559
    CafcSCP said:
    boggzy said:
    Mental night, never seen a team clearly turn on the manager before even going down the tunnel before, never thought I’d celebrate a sacking in the oak either. 
    What happened exactly at the end?
    A number of the senior pros including dobbo just stood in the D chatting. 
    They weren’t rushing down the tunnel, so something was obviously up 
    The only explanation is they knew what was coming, so did Appleton, so begs the question why was he even in charge for the game?
    He was clearly told he had to win it to keep his job and that is why we were still trying to win it after the sending off.
    How do you know, you were at the theatre weren’t you? I don’t think their keeper made a save all game, I’d argue we didn’t try nowhere near enough to try and win it.