First of all, let’s be clear that at Charlton, we don’t have a manager picking the team, we have a Head Coach.
I’d be happy with either Lee Bowyer, Gary Rowett or Gareth Ainsworth. They all know how to get the most out of the players.
However, I have to say that I disagree with sacking Appleton as much as I was with the other coaches before them. Yes, we were shit, but I don’t believe it was due to him, and the same was true with the previous coaches.
I draw the parallel with a teacher at a school. As a teacher, you can be very good at your job but if the students (players) don’t listen, aren’t motivated, hate the school (club) they’re at, have problems with other students (players), think they’re better than they are, don’t need to study, don’t try to understand and do the work then the teacher won’t succeed.
In addition, if the school administration don’t make the objectives clear, give the necessary information to the teacher, don’t address the teacher’s difficulties effectively, listen to what the teacher thinks is wrong within the organisation then again the teacher won’t succeed.
The teacher then becomes demotivated and at worst just does what the students want in full knowledge that it isn’t what they need, which starts a new vicious circle. If, into the bargain, the teacher knows he will have a fully paid up 3 year contract (which would never happen) with no fear for his livlihood then why would he work his bollocks off to the detriment of his private life for a shitshow.
Imagine then a school with multiple teachers like this. The school would slide rapidly down the OFSTED ratings.
Charlton are a club on the slide. All the coaches since Boywer are like the unfortunate teachers in my analogy. Only changing the true management will change things, not replacing Appleton. We may get a bounce off this new manager and survive this season but it makes no difference. We will go down by 2025 (I’m sure that I predicted this on here a few years ago). I’d rather have kept Appleton and risk it being this season because with each change we just get worse.
How on earth could we carry on with him. How many more games would you have been at before you decided he had to go?
He's in France.
Lol. Like that makes my opinion unworthy. You have to do better.
I was just responding to the question he asked or are you refuting you live in France?
Ghana has sacked Chris Hughton after an early exit from the Africa Cup of Nations.
No thanks, he's terrible too
Yeah not for me. By all accounts a great guy from speaking to Brighton fans but managerially his time has gone.
Yeah seems a lovely bloke
We don't need a lovely bloke. We need a hard-nosed bastard that can keep us in League One and then build a side for a possible promotion push next year
I'll go for that. I think some fans want it both ways. They want a cultural Marxist woke FC where we are the most right on as you can possibly get bending to every last virtue signalling cack in the cosmos. And then we also want a no nonsense hard nosed Neil Warnock (def not woke!) to blast us back into the championshiposphere. Can't have both. I'll take the latter!
First of all, let’s be clear that at Charlton, we don’t have a manager picking the team, we have a Head Coach.
I’d be happy with either Lee Bowyer, Gary Rowett or Gareth Ainsworth. They all know how to get the most out of the players.
However, I have to say that I disagree with sacking Appleton as much as I was with the other coaches before them. Yes, we were shit, but I don’t believe it was due to him, and the same was true with the previous coaches.
I draw the parallel with a teacher at a school. As a teacher, you can be very good at your job but if the students (players) don’t listen, aren’t motivated, hate the school (club) they’re at, have problems with other students (players), think they’re better than they are, don’t need to study, don’t try to understand and do the work then the teacher won’t succeed.
In addition, if the school administration don’t make the objectives clear, give the necessary information to the teacher, don’t address the teacher’s difficulties effectively, listen to what the teacher thinks is wrong within the organisation then again the teacher won’t succeed.
The teacher then becomes demotivated and at worst just does what the students want in full knowledge that it isn’t what they need, which starts a new vicious circle. If, into the bargain, the teacher knows he will have a fully paid up 3 year contract (which would never happen) with no fear for his livlihood then why would he work his bollocks off to the detriment of his private life for a shitshow.
Imagine then a school with multiple teachers like this. The school would slide rapidly down the OFSTED ratings.
Charlton are a club on the slide. All the coaches since Boywer are like the unfortunate teachers in my analogy. Only changing the true management will change things, not replacing Appleton. We may get a bounce off this new manager and survive this season but it makes no difference. We will go down by 2025 (I’m sure that I predicted this on here a few years ago). I’d rather have kept Appleton and risk it being this season because with each change we just get worse.
How on earth could we carry on with him. How many more games would you have been at before you decided he had to go?
I would have carried on until the end of the season because:
1. It gives the message to current and future players that at Charlton you cannot just ’down tools’, undermine the head coach and expect a change.
2. It shows to future head coaches that at Charlton you get a minimum of one full season.
I accept that this policy means that based on current form we would have got relegated but:
1. I think current form is due to players ’downing tools’ and it wouldn't have continued anyway once they realise the head coach is staying. I believe this because Appleton did get results earlier in the season that got us from our current position up to 9th.
2. We’ve had too many short term, knee jerk reactions. We need to get back to thinking of our long term interest. It shows future coaches that we are not a sacking club. It also shows the players that the head coach is boss and not held ransom to soft baby players of such insolence and disrespect.
I agree. Had Alperton bombed with Leaburn and Aneke and CBT and May available every week and HIS defenders in place not the previous incumbents, then I'd say FIRE HIM! But he never did bomb under these circumstances.
What have we learned if we bring in another coach who also wins matches with the aforesaid in the match day squad?!!
Nothing.
Garner had a good run Holden had a good run Alperrton had a good run.
They just weren't good enough to get results with sh*t.
Clearly lost the players. Feel sorry for Alperton. I imagine coach rather than manager is what he excels at. "Out on the grass" is where he should be and not in management. Perhaps we could consider this in the next appt. I don't really see Bowyer, Jackson, Adkins, Alperton et al as being solid managers. Adkins aside, all needed a Curbishley as a DoF (adkins needed a lobotomy with his blairite nonsense) none were really men with a longterm vision or at least didn't strike me as such. They were either too petulant and childish (Bowysr) or nice (Jacko, Alperton, Holden)
Let's get in an absolute rough house with a pair of old time "b******s" (warnock?!) and a strategy to get this club back up to where it belongs and deserves to be...
SELR addicks posted this on the Andy Scott appointed thread. These are the people running our club, they haven't got a fucking clue. I dread to think who we will end up with next.
Charlton’s Technical Director Andy Scott led the recruitment process, supported by Managing Director James Rodwell and Simon Lenagan, Sporting Director of the club’s owners Global Football Partners.
Scott commented: “The appointment of Michael comes following an in-depth recruitment process. We had a clear idea of the type of person we wanted, the way they work and how they manage.
“When speaking to the various candidates that we met, Michael demonstrated very clearly that he would have the ability to take the current group and mould them into a successful team.
“He has worked at the very top level so he understands what high standards are required to win. He is a leader on the grass, as well as in the dressing room, has a winning mentality and has had many positive and negative experiences as a manager that have shaped him into the coach that we believe will be the best person for the job.
“He is a coach who knows what it takes to get a team promoted. He has a track record of working with, and developing, young players, which is vital given our outstanding academy. In addition, he has experience working in a modern set-up where his responsibilities are on managing a group of players and getting the best out of them on the pitch.”
Andy Scott, James Rodwell and Simon Lenagan, get your coats.
Clearly lost the players. Feel sorry for Alperton. I imagine coach rather than manager is what he excels at. "Out on the grass" is where he should be and not in management. Perhaps we could consider this in the next appt. I don't really see Bowyer, Jackson, Adkins, Alperton et al as being solid managers. Adkins aside, all needed a Curbishley as a DoF (adkins needed a lobotomy with his blairite nonsense) none were really men with a longterm vision or at least didn't strike me as such. They were either too petulant and childish (Bowysr) or nice (Jacko, Alperton, Holden)
Let's get in an absolute rough house with a pair of old time "b******s" (warnock?!) and a strategy to get this club back up to where it belongs and deserves to be...
...12th in League 1!!
Alperton is near Wembley you clown.
Yes I know. And "Apples" are fruit but both words seem to be used for Michael Appleton. Clown!
Maybe part of the selection process involves choosing a yes man manager that does what Scott says. Hence we seem to be recruiting soy boys mainly. I can't imagine these passive aggressive types actually inviting a John Terry no nonsense hard b****cks into the building. Adkins, Garner, Alperton ~ they're all "nice". We've tried every form of "nice" and it doesn't work. It certainly doesn't work in the real world so why should it in fantasy soccer world?
SELR addicks posted this on the Andy Scott appointed thread. These are the people running our club, they haven't got a fucking clue. I dread to think who we will end up with next.
Charlton’s Technical Director Andy Scott led the recruitment process, supported by Managing Director James Rodwell and Simon Lenagan, Sporting Director of the club’s owners Global Football Partners.
Scott commented: “The appointment of Michael comes following an in-depth recruitment process. We had a clear idea of the type of person we wanted, the way they work and how they manage.
“When speaking to the various candidates that we met, Michael demonstrated very clearly that he would have the ability to take the current group and mould them into a successful team.
“He has worked at the very top level so he understands what high standards are required to win. He is a leader on the grass, as well as in the dressing room, has a winning mentality and has had many positive and negative experiences as a manager that have shaped him into the coach that we believe will be the best person for the job.
“He is a coach who knows what it takes to get a team promoted. He has a track record of working with, and developing, young players, which is vital given our outstanding academy. In addition, he has experience working in a modern set-up where his responsibilities are on managing a group of players and getting the best out of them on the pitch.”
Andy Scott, James Rodwell and Simon Lenagan, get your coats.
First of all, let’s be clear that at Charlton, we don’t have a manager picking the team, we have a Head Coach.
I’d be happy with either Lee Bowyer, Gary Rowett or Gareth Ainsworth. They all know how to get the most out of the players.
However, I have to say that I disagree with sacking Appleton as much as I was with the other coaches before them. Yes, we were shit, but I don’t believe it was due to him, and the same was true with the previous coaches.
I draw the parallel with a teacher at a school. As a teacher, you can be very good at your job but if the students (players) don’t listen, aren’t motivated, hate the school (club) they’re at, have problems with other students (players), think they’re better than they are, don’t need to study, don’t try to understand and do the work then the teacher won’t succeed.
In addition, if the school administration don’t make the objectives clear, give the necessary information to the teacher, don’t address the teacher’s difficulties effectively, listen to what the teacher thinks is wrong within the organisation then again the teacher won’t succeed.
The teacher then becomes demotivated and at worst just does what the students want in full knowledge that it isn’t what they need, which starts a new vicious circle. If, into the bargain, the teacher knows he will have a fully paid up 3 year contract (which would never happen) with no fear for his livlihood then why would he work his bollocks off to the detriment of his private life for a shitshow.
Imagine then a school with multiple teachers like this. The school would slide rapidly down the OFSTED ratings.
Charlton are a club on the slide. All the coaches since Boywer are like the unfortunate teachers in my analogy. Only changing the true management will change things, not replacing Appleton. We may get a bounce off this new manager and survive this season but it makes no difference. We will go down by 2025 (I’m sure that I predicted this on here a few years ago). I’d rather have kept Appleton and risk it being this season because with each change we just get worse.
How on earth could we carry on with him. How many more games would you have been at before you decided he had to go?
He's in France.
Lol. Like that makes my opinion unworthy. You have to do better.
I was just responding to the question he asked or are you refuting you live in France?
He asked ’How many more games would you have been at before you decided he had to go?'
Although I accept your point (not made on this forum) that being there is not the same as watching on TV, I don’t think he meant that I actually have to be AT the game. Besides, as you know, living in France, although hindering attendance does not prevent it totally.
Anyway, I think being AT the match can often cloud judgement because decisions are made on the anger you feel. You get caught up too much in the emotion. Do you never look at other clubs from afar and have disbelief over sackings, many of which are the cause of overemotional decisions? Does anyone for example understand why the Palace fans had those banners at Arsenal?
You can always tell something big has happened at Charlton when ValleyOfTears starts popping up regularly with his brand of intermediate level trolling. It’s like the Mothman appearing
Andy Scott.....Technical Director...says it all really.
Why ? Why does there have to be someone to blame if MA .. was the best available then so be it …. Richard Murray made a number of poor calls ..
Scott said Appleton was the stand out candidate. If you look at Appleton's record as a manager it's largely very very poor. Do you believe Scott will get it right this time.?
Will be interesting to see where his next job is. I do wonder why he could not sort out the defence, I can only assume it was a poor tactical setup, with players not comfortable with the requirements. To get where they are as professionals they cannot all be that rubbish?
His stats for Blackpool look remarkably similar to ours.
I would be surprised if he got another chance in League 1 at least as a No1. Feels like he could probably end up as a first team coach at a championship club possibly.
Everything that happened at Blackpool with him sounds very very similar to how it went wrong for him here.
Will be interesting to see where his next job is. I do wonder why he could not sort out the defence, I can only assume it was a poor tactical setup, with players not comfortable with the requirements. To get where they are as professionals they cannot all be that rubbish?
His stats for Blackpool look remarkably similar to ours.
I’m not defending the guy for one minute but I think many on here agree that the midfield from the players available offered little protection and the full backs are just not that good defensively with CBS that always had an error in them and a keeper that is increasingly coming under the spotlight.
Basically you can only work with the tools at your disposal. However his team selections, in game management, tactics and subs, plus demeanour and not least of all alienation of the fan base did for him in the end with no wins since November. He deserved the tin tack and should not have been in charge Tuesday evening.
Bastards Could have waited just 4 (FOUR) more days Bastards
Don’t worry Herts. Our fans will spend all day giving Albie Morgan dogs abuse for him to score on 90+6 to take all 3 points secure a comfortable 4-0 victory.
Appleton is a fantastic manager, just needs to work on his communication, acting, tactical awareness, man management , media management, touch line presence , substitutions, formations, player instructions, fan relations, tattoos , clapping, set piece drills, defensive instructions , game management and transfers.
Appleton is a fantastic manager, just needs to work on his communication, acting, tactical awareness, man management , media management, touch line presence , substitutions, formations, player instructions, fan relations, tattoos , clapping, set piece drills, defensive instructions , game management and transfers.
That’s harsh, I need to defend him here as he did show some promise - his tattoos are at least mid table League 1 standard.
Andy Scott.....Technical Director...says it all really.
Why ? Why does there have to be someone to blame if MA .. was the best available then so be it …. Richard Murray made a number of poor calls ..
Scott said Appleton was the stand out candidate. If you look at Appleton's record as a manager it's largely very very poor. Do you believe Scott will get it right this time.?
Sorry, but I disagree. Over many more games his win ratio is equal to Powell's. Is his record considered largely poor? No, because with us it was more than 50%.
Appleton's is much worse with us, very poor, and he's paid the price. But it's a myth to say he is/was a serial loser. I'm far more concerned about about Scott's track record in doing what he does?
Ghana has sacked Chris Hughton after an early exit from the Africa Cup of Nations.
No thanks, he's terrible too
Yeah not for me. By all accounts a great guy from speaking to Brighton fans but managerially his time has gone.
Yeah seems a lovely bloke
We don't need a lovely bloke. We need a hard-nosed bastard that can keep us in League One and then build a side for a possible promotion push next year
I'll go for that. I think some fans want it both ways. They want a cultural Marxist woke FC where we are the most right on as you can possibly get bending to every last virtue signalling cack in the cosmos. And then we also want a no nonsense hard nosed Neil Warnock (def not woke!) to blast us back into the championshiposphere. Can't have both. I'll take the latter!
I'm Cultural Marxist Woke FC 'til I die... I'm ...
I have a strong belief that the pool of intelligent footballers isn't that great that there are enough good managers to go round. I think knowledge of the game is essential and all ex footballers will have that but then there is an element of problem solving. These can be complex qualities. Knowing what the problem is then solving it can be simple but also very difficult. Especially when things are going wrong and you are having to plug a hole here and another there etc...
Now, Appleton seemed to identify the problems which most of us can also see. But when you expected actions in relation to that, they didn't always happen. A fresh example was Burton but there were quite a few others. He explained the second half performance by saying players were afraid to make incisive passes and went sideways and backwards. The main culprits were Jones and Ness, yet he took Thomas off, who was not guilty of this. Then he dropped Thomas on Tuesday when he had a decent game amongst other decent games and indeed was a worldy save from scoring a great goal!
It seems to me that some managers, when under extreme pressure lose the plot. The amount of late goals we concede has been ridiculous, comical even. Surely you work out why that is and correct it? Another simple thing you need to do as a manager is have enough goals in the team. That is work out how many goals a player has in him in so many games. It is harder with young players but with most their record tells you. Now if you have a player like May you need less from the others but we have lost CBT, I don't know the answer to this because I haven't sat down and done the analysis, but have we replaced his goals? I think Curbs has said this, but you need X goals from your defenders, usually centre halves at set pieces, from your midfield and your attack and they have to add up to the amount of goals a team generally needs to be in the top six over the course of a season. Not an exact science but it can highlight problems and what you need to do to fix them.
I'm not saying I could do it, but I can see it, and it doesn't feel something Charlton does. To be fair, not just under this ownership. Maybe it is down to so many changes at the top and in our managers. Maybe when you try to get decent players on the cheap, if they had goals in them, they wouldn't be cheap. Derby got a player who had goals in him from us, a player we would rather have kept. Were the players we have brought in players their clubs wanted to keep if they could? May certainly was and he has been a succesful signing. A signing Holden pushed for when he was told we didn't need him, let us not forget.
To summarise, that is a big reason I liked Holden. I could tell he was a very intellingent bloke. Somebody who if supported was likely to get it right. I hope I get the same feeling about our next manager. I haven't got it in terms of Rodwell and I don't know about Scott in all honesty.
Andy Scott.....Technical Director...says it all really.
Why ? Why does there have to be someone to blame if MA .. was the best available then so be it …. Richard Murray made a number of poor calls ..
Scott said Appleton was the stand out candidate. If you look at Appleton's record as a manager it's largely very very poor. Do you believe Scott will get it right this time.?
Sorry, but I disagree. Over many more games his win ratio is equal to Powell's. Is his record considered largely poor? No, because with us it was more than 50%.
Appleton's is much worse with us, very poor, and he's paid the price. But it's a myth to say he is/was a serial loser. I'm far more concerned about about Scott's track record in doing what he does?
Appleton's win %
at Charlton 28.6% at Portsmouth 25.5% at Blackburn 26.7% at Blackpool 16.7% at Blackpool again 24.1%
He most definitely is a serial loser. Why the board ever thought he would be a successful appointment is beyond me.
I'll go for that. I think some fans want it both ways. They want a cultural Marxist woke FC where we are the most right on as you can possibly get bending to every last virtue signalling cack in the cosmos. And then we also want a no nonsense hard nosed Neil Warnock (def not woke!) to blast us back into the championshiposphere. Can't have both. I'll take the latter!
I'm Cultural Marxist Woke FC 'til I die... I'm ...
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First of all, let’s be clear that at Charlton, we don’t have a manager picking the team, we have a Head Coach.
I’d be happy with either Lee Bowyer, Gary Rowett or Gareth Ainsworth. They all know how to get the most out of the players.
However, I have to say that I disagree with sacking Appleton as much as I was with the other coaches before them. Yes, we were shit, but I don’t believe it was due to him, and the same was true with the previous coaches.
I draw the parallel with a teacher at a school. As a teacher, you can be very good at your job but if the students (players) don’t listen, aren’t motivated, hate the school (club) they’re at, have problems with other students (players), think they’re better than they are, don’t need to study, don’t try to understand and do the work then the teacher won’t succeed.
In addition, if the school administration don’t make the objectives clear, give the necessary information to the teacher, don’t address the teacher’s difficulties effectively, listen to what the teacher thinks is wrong within the organisation then again the teacher won’t succeed.
The teacher then becomes demotivated and at worst just does what the students want in full knowledge that it isn’t what they need, which starts a new vicious circle. If, into the bargain, the teacher knows he will have a fully paid up 3 year contract (which would never happen) with no fear for his livlihood then why would he work his bollocks off to the detriment of his private life for a shitshow.
Imagine then a school with multiple teachers like this. The school would slide rapidly down the OFSTED ratings.
Charlton are a club on the slide. All the coaches since Boywer are like the unfortunate teachers in my analogy. Only changing the true management will change things, not replacing Appleton. We may get a bounce off this new manager and survive this season but it makes no difference. We will go down by 2025 (I’m sure that I predicted this on here a few years ago). I’d rather have kept Appleton and risk it being this season because with each change we just get worse.
I stopped reading at Gareth Ainsworth knows how to get the best out of players.
Maybe part of the selection process involves choosing a yes man manager that does what Scott says. Hence we seem to be recruiting soy boys mainly. I can't imagine these passive aggressive types actually inviting a John Terry no nonsense hard b****cks into the building. Adkins, Garner, Alperton ~ they're all "nice". We've tried every form of "nice" and it doesn't work. It certainly doesn't work in the real world so why should it in fantasy soccer world?
Andy Scott.....Technical Director...says it all really.
Why ? Why does there have to be someone to blame if MA .. was the best available then so be it …. Richard Murray made a number of poor calls ..
Scott said Appleton was the stand out candidate. If you look at Appleton's record as a manager it's largely very very poor. Do you believe Scott will get it right this time.?
Sorry, but I disagree. Over many more games his win ratio is equal to Powell's. Is his record considered largely poor? No, because with us it was more than 50%.
Appleton's is much worse with us, very poor, and he's paid the price. But it's a myth to say he is/was a serial loser. I'm far more concerned about about Scott's track record in doing what he does?
Appleton's win %
at Charlton 28.6% at Portsmouth 25.5% at Blackburn 26.7% at Blackpool 16.7% at Blackpool again 24.1%
He most definitely is a serial loser. Why the board ever thought he would be a successful appointment is beyond me.
Looking at this it's hard to understand how anyone can say he's not a loser.
Comments
What have we learned if we bring in another coach who also wins matches with the aforesaid in the match day squad?!!
Nothing.
Garner had a good run
Holden had a good run
Alperrton had a good run.
They just weren't good enough to get results with sh*t.
Charlton’s Technical Director Andy Scott led the recruitment process, supported by Managing Director James Rodwell and Simon Lenagan, Sporting Director of the club’s owners Global Football Partners.
Scott commented: “The appointment of Michael comes following an in-depth recruitment process. We had a clear idea of the type of person we wanted, the way they work and how they manage.
“When speaking to the various candidates that we met, Michael demonstrated very clearly that he would have the ability to take the current group and mould them into a successful team.
“He has worked at the very top level so he understands what high standards are required to win. He is a leader on the grass, as well as in the dressing room, has a winning mentality and has had many positive and negative experiences as a manager that have shaped him into the coach that we believe will be the best person for the job.
“He is a coach who knows what it takes to get a team promoted. He has a track record of working with, and developing, young players, which is vital given our outstanding academy. In addition, he has experience working in a modern set-up where his responsibilities are on managing a group of players and getting the best out of them on the pitch.”
Andy Scott, James Rodwell and Simon Lenagan, get your coats.
Although I accept your point (not made on this forum) that being there is not the same as watching on TV, I don’t think he meant that I actually have to be AT the game. Besides, as you know, living in France, although hindering attendance does not prevent it totally.
Anyway, I think being AT the match can often cloud judgement because decisions are made on the anger you feel. You get caught up too much in the emotion. Do you never look at other clubs from afar and have disbelief over sackings, many of which are the cause of overemotional decisions? Does anyone for example understand why the Palace fans had those banners at Arsenal?
If you look at Appleton's record as a manager it's largely very very poor.
Do you believe Scott will get it right this time.?
Everything that happened at Blackpool with him sounds very very similar to how it went wrong for him here.
Our fans will spend all day giving Albie Morgan dogs abuse for him to score on 90+6 to take all 3 points secure a comfortable 4-0 victory.
Appleton is a fantastic manager, just needs to work on his communication, acting, tactical awareness, man management , media management, touch line presence , substitutions, formations, player instructions, fan relations, tattoos , clapping, set piece drills, defensive instructions , game management and transfers.
Appleton's is much worse with us, very poor, and he's paid the price. But it's a myth to say he is/was a serial loser. I'm far more concerned about about Scott's track record in doing what he does?
I'm ...
Now, Appleton seemed to identify the problems which most of us can also see. But when you expected actions in relation to that, they didn't always happen. A fresh example was Burton but there were quite a few others. He explained the second half performance by saying players were afraid to make incisive passes and went sideways and backwards. The main culprits were Jones and Ness, yet he took Thomas off, who was not guilty of this. Then he dropped Thomas on Tuesday when he had a decent game amongst other decent games and indeed was a worldy save from scoring a great goal!
It seems to me that some managers, when under extreme pressure lose the plot. The amount of late goals we concede has been ridiculous, comical even. Surely you work out why that is and correct it? Another simple thing you need to do as a manager is have enough goals in the team. That is work out how many goals a player has in him in so many games. It is harder with young players but with most their record tells you. Now if you have a player like May you need less from the others but we have lost CBT, I don't know the answer to this because I haven't sat down and done the analysis, but have we replaced his goals? I think Curbs has said this, but you need X goals from your defenders, usually centre halves at set pieces, from your midfield and your attack and they have to add up to the amount of goals a team generally needs to be in the top six over the course of a season. Not an exact science but it can highlight problems and what you need to do to fix them.
I'm not saying I could do it, but I can see it, and it doesn't feel something Charlton does. To be fair, not just under this ownership. Maybe it is down to so many changes at the top and in our managers. Maybe when you try to get decent players on the cheap, if they had goals in them, they wouldn't be cheap. Derby got a player who had goals in him from us, a player we would rather have kept. Were the players we have brought in players their clubs wanted to keep if they could? May certainly was and he has been a succesful signing. A signing Holden pushed for when he was told we didn't need him, let us not forget.
To summarise, that is a big reason I liked Holden. I could tell he was a very intellingent bloke. Somebody who if supported was likely to get it right. I hope I get the same feeling about our next manager. I haven't got it in terms of Rodwell and I don't know about Scott in all honesty.
at Charlton 28.6%
at Portsmouth 25.5%
at Blackburn 26.7%
at Blackpool 16.7%
at Blackpool again 24.1%
He most definitely is a serial loser. Why the board ever thought he would be a successful appointment is beyond me.
The mist rolling in from the Thames
My desire is is a political philosophy and method of socioeconomic analysis that uses a materialist interpretation of historical development, better known as historical materialism, to understand class relations and social conflict and a dialectical perspective to view social transformation