I'll keep open mind. He's the Charlton Head Coach and until there's reason to do otherwise he should have our support. The image we have has been the character mocked in our threads so did some googling to see how well it is justified. There's an interesting 2021 interview in The Athletic on his career and the negative baggage he's had to carry https://theathletic.com/2421847/2021/03/03/michael-appleton-i-fell-foul-of-not-doing-proper-due-diligence-on-people-i-worked-with/ Googled the local papers for Oxford and Lincoln when he left and they were positive:
Quote Oxford Fans
“We had an identity and a way of playing football. I’m completely disappointed, really gutted to be honest, that it’s happened the way it has.
“He was an absolute gentlemen, a lovely bloke to talk to and a lot of people respected him.”
Lincoln Local paper "Supported by the club’s recruitment team, Appleton made some outstanding signings, producing the best City side in 40 years, which didn’t just win regularly, but did so in style."
"On a personal level, Appleton has been a pleasure to deal with, always open and honest with the media. He’s clearly a talented manager and coach, and after a well-earned break to recharge his batteries, it would be no surprise to see him back in the game very soon, possibly on the coaching staff at a higher-level club."
No guarantees with us but seems the pre-conceived perceptions from may not be entirely justified. However, seems "basket case" clubs where he's bombed attract him.
with respect to them, what Lincoln and Oxford fans expect from a manager should be VERY different things.
Bit hard not to sound like a "massive" with a comment liike like this I grant you. Perhaps I just need to readjust my expectations down a division - just be happy being in and around league 1 play offs instead.
Historically a mid table second division club.
Over recent years I'd suggest we have dropped many places and are on a par with Lincoln and Oxford.
Two comments from another club's forum about Appleton's appointment. It seems the rest of the world view us as we view ourselves and Appleton.
Amazing how he keeps getting appointments despite not achieving anything except the sack at everywhere he goes except for one good season with Oxford United. I swear that sometimes the managerial round about believes it's own PR at times
He’s chosen his clubs very unwisely, almost everywhere he’s been bar Oxford has been a basket case. He did well at Lincoln too initially.
Perhaps he likes a certainty for the sack and a nice little pay off.
Gives an idea on what Charlton supporters might expect.
Sounds like he's a good coach but maybe more flawed as a manager, as paradoxical as that sounds. Good at developing and training players but not really much of a tactician.
Which honestly? Shouldn't actually really be much of a problem. Get May and Leaburn fit at the same time and goals will come. Give the defence a deserved kick up the arse and get them to focus and he won't NEED to be a Pep style genius to get decent results.
"Michael certainly had his favourites at times during his time here, and mostly during his last season with the club. I wasn’t going to put this section in but when I saw a comment on my Twitter post about Conor McGrandles being almost undroppable in the 21/22 season despite some costly mistakes, I had to consider how he leaned towards certain players".
Joe Briley AllLincoln article "Michael Appleton-Analysis" 9th Sept
Seems he had his favourites who he chose when better players were available- one other we kn ow- jack Payne also got frozen out according to this account.
I think focusing on results is the wrong strategy. Whether you want the gold medal or not does not decide who wins it. Stick with Appleton for a year and we will be challenging. Lincoln are tiny and he built a good team. Even mcshambles was brilliant.
isn't McScandalous injured for like 3 months though?
McCandles has had terrible luck with injuries, including the freak wrist injury with the deflected ball but does he have a flicker of a chance under the new head coach or has his career at Cafc tapered out ? McCandles played well at Lincoln but I don't want to wax lyrical about a player who has been snuffed out and will probably end up at WickCombe Wanderers.
Gives an idea on what Charlton supporters might expect.
Sounds like he's a good coach but maybe more flawed as a manager, as paradoxical as that sounds. Good at developing and training players but not really much of a tactician.
Which honestly? Shouldn't actually really be much of a problem. Get May and Leaburn fit at the same time and goals will come. Give the defence a deserved kick up the arse and get them to focus and he won't NEED to be a Pep style genius to get decent results.
Gives an idea on what Charlton supporters might expect.
Sounds like he's a good coach but maybe more flawed as a manager, as paradoxical as that sounds. Good at developing and training players but not really much of a tactician.
Don’t remember that being said about Appleton, but I remember Holden saying the same thing about himself, in one of his first interviews. I remember being quite shocked when he said that.
If Appleton’s the same it’s a bit of a worry, unless he has a proper tactician in the dugout alongside him. Surely tactics is half of the job?
Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional. Can we just embrace the chaos.
After reading the comments of many CL members, Michael Appleton is looked upon as Vanilla but vanilla is only a Chocolate flake away from being a 99 which would be a treat.
The cafc expectation bar is set so low that a limbo dancer would struggle to wriggle under.
The journey of a thousand miles begins with one step; Cafc issue is that the step is normally in the wrong direction.
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent. The first lady said that ? No, not Fanny Fanackapan but Eleanor Roosevelt.
If the one man and his sheep sing; "We are effing shit" at our next home game or worse, the next game against Stevenage, then we really are drowning not waving in a ocean of negativity.
"Michael certainly had his favourites at times during his time here, and mostly during his last season with the club. I wasn’t going to put this section in but when I saw a comment on my Twitter post about Conor McGrandles being almost undroppable in the 21/22 season despite some costly mistakes, I had to consider how he leaned towards certain players".
Joe Briley AllLincoln article "Michael Appleton-Analysis" 9th Sept
Seems he had his favourites who he chose when better players were available- one other we kn ow- jack Payne also got frozen out according to this account.
Gives an idea on what Charlton supporters might expect.
Sounds like he's a good coach but maybe more flawed as a manager, as paradoxical as that sounds. Good at developing and training players but not really much of a tactician.
Don’t remember that being said about Appleton, but I remember Holden saying the same thing about himself, in one of his first interviews. I remember being quite shocked when he said that.
If Appleton’s the same it’s a bit of a worry, unless he has a proper tactician in the dugout alongside him. Surely tactics is half of the job?
I don't think so no. All managers these days will be expected to have the ability to change formation etc if needed.
He's just not seemingly the type who is going to be doing stuff like inverted full backs or false 9s or whatever. It will more likely be a "standard" 4-3-3 or 5-3-2 or whatever shape he goes with.
Gives an idea on what Charlton supporters might expect.
Sounds like he's a good coach but maybe more flawed as a manager, as paradoxical as that sounds. Good at developing and training players but not really much of a tactician.
Don’t remember that being said about Appleton, but I remember Holden saying the same thing about himself, in one of his first interviews. I remember being quite shocked when he said that.
If Appleton’s the same it’s a bit of a worry, unless he has a proper tactician in the dugout alongside him. Surely tactics is half of the job?
I don't think so no. All managers these days will be expected to have the ability to change formation etc if needed.
He's just not seemingly the type who is going to be doing stuff like inverted full backs or false 9s or whatever. It will more likely be a "standard" 4-3-3 or 5-3-2 or whatever shape he goes with.
Which is okay by me.
It’s the ability to switch formation or tactics mid game that we’re sometimes lacking, particularly when the opposition changes theirs.
Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional. Can we just embrace the chaos.
After reading the comments of many CL members, Michael Appleton is looked upon as Vanilla but vanilla is only a Chocolate flake away from being a 99 which would be a treat.
The cafc expectation bar is set so low that a limbo dancer would struggle to wriggle under.
The journey of a thousand miles begins with one step; Cafc issue is that the step is normally in the wrong direction.
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent. The first lady said that ? No, not Fanny Fanackapan but Eleanor Roosevelt.
If the one man and his sheep sing; "We are effing shit" at our next home game or worse, the next game against Stevenage, then we really are drowning not waving in a ocean of negativity.
Wow, what a great collection of profound statements....well put✅🤔
And to be champions usually requires between 94 and 100 points. About another 88 points to win. Starting with the vital three points away at Stevenage next Saturday.
And to be champions usually requires between 94 and 100 points. About another 88 points to win. Starting with the vital three points away at Stevenage next Saturday.
Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional. Can we just embrace the chaos.
After reading the comments of many CL members, Michael Appleton is looked upon as Vanilla but vanilla is only a Chocolate flake away from being a 99 which would be a treat.
The cafc expectation bar is set so low that a limbo dancer would struggle to wriggle under.
The journey of a thousand miles begins with one step; Cafc issue is that the step is normally in the wrong direction.
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent. The first lady said that ? No, not Fanny Fanackapan but Eleanor Roosevelt.
If the one man and his sheep sing; "We are effing shit" at our next home game or worse, the next game against Stevenage, then we really are drowning not waving in a ocean of negativity.
Wow, what a great collection of profound statements....well put✅🤔
“It’s up to the players on the pitch to motivate the crowd - not the other way around” - David Pleat.
And to be champions usually requires between 94 and 100 points. About another 88 points to win. Starting with the vital three points away at Stevenage next Saturday.
I admire your tenacity Seth
I am sick of this fourth successive season watching our club playing at this level. I suspect everybody else is.
The clutter of our club is complex and embarrassing and depressing, so I have decided it would be good to focus on what the latest regime delivers, and I want them to deliver automatic promotion.
I am sneered at for that by some, like when I say we should win the next eight games in a row. But those games won would create a platform for automatic promotion before it is simply too late once again.
At the moment the regime is miles away from getting us automatic promotion, for that reason what they have done so far deserves scrutiny and where appropriate criticism.
Additionally when they go on and on about young player development it suggests they have not been developing fine already, but they have haven’t they? The young player manoeuvre also acts as a way of distracting fans from the real prize, which I repeat is automatic promotion.
This lot decided for some mysterious and suspicious reason to acquire Charlton Athletic Football Club. Billionaires no less so we are led to believe, so my apparent tenacity is to see if our experts backed by billions can deliver the promotion we all want.
Two league wins and four defeats so far suggests to me they are failing. A win at Stevenage would represent one step on the road to success.
Don't agree that there is any implied critism of player development/academy. In fact, the reverse as they keep banging on about it being what the Club does best, more a USP and invaluable as a pathway to profit, one for them to cash in on!
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Gives an idea on what Charlton supporters might expect.
Over recent years I'd suggest we have dropped many places and are on a par with Lincoln and Oxford.
Which honestly? Shouldn't actually really be much of a problem. Get May and Leaburn fit at the same time and goals will come. Give the defence a deserved kick up the arse and get them to focus and he won't NEED to be a Pep style genius to get decent results.
Joe Briley AllLincoln article "Michael Appleton-Analysis" 9th Sept
Seems he had his favourites who he chose when better players were available- one other we kn ow- jack Payne also got frozen out according to this account.
https://alllincoln.co.uk/2023/09/michael-appleton-appointed-at-charlton-analysis/
McCandles has had terrible luck with injuries, including the freak wrist injury with the deflected ball but does he have a flicker of a chance under the new head coach or has his career at Cafc tapered out ?
McCandles played well at Lincoln but I don't want to wax lyrical about a player who has been snuffed out and will probably end up at WickCombe Wanderers.
Can we just embrace the chaos.
After reading the comments of many CL members, Michael Appleton is looked upon as Vanilla but vanilla is only a Chocolate flake away from being a 99 which would be a treat.
The cafc expectation bar is set so low that a limbo dancer would struggle to wriggle under.
The journey of a thousand miles begins with one step; Cafc issue is that the step is normally in the wrong direction.
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent. The first lady said that ?
No, not Fanny Fanackapan but Eleanor Roosevelt.
If the one man and his sheep sing;
"We are effing shit" at our next home game or worse, the next game against Stevenage, then we really are drowning not waving in a ocean of negativity.
He's just not seemingly the type who is going to be doing stuff like inverted full backs or false 9s or whatever. It will more likely be a "standard" 4-3-3 or 5-3-2 or whatever shape he goes with.
Which is okay by me.
Highest scorers of any side outside the top 6 last year. 11th highest so far despite sitting 17th, and scored 3 in the cup last week and still lost.
If he can improve the defence by only 25%, we will be play off contenders in my opinion.
Wow, what a great collection of profound statements....well put✅🤔
And in the morning you wake up...😉
About another 88 points to win.
Starting with the vital three points away at Stevenage next Saturday.
Perfect time to announce his back room staff so we can trash/ praise them. Come on comms, you know it makes sense.
I admire your tenacity Seth
Iirc he was on trial following his release from Spurs and was an unused sub in a league game. The next week he choose to sign for Ipswich.
The clutter of our club is complex and embarrassing and depressing, so I have decided it would be good to focus on what the latest regime delivers, and I want them to deliver automatic promotion.
I am sneered at for that by some, like when I say we should win the next eight games in a row. But those games won would create a platform for automatic promotion before it is simply too late once again.
At the moment the regime is miles away from getting us automatic promotion, for that reason what they have done so far deserves scrutiny and where appropriate criticism.
This lot decided for some mysterious and suspicious reason to acquire Charlton Athletic Football Club. Billionaires no less so we are led to believe, so my apparent tenacity is to see if our experts backed by billions can deliver the promotion we all want.
Two league wins and four defeats so far suggests to me they are failing. A win at Stevenage would represent one step on the road to success.
We need promotion
If we don't, we can blame some billionaires. I mean I don't know any of them, but I'll blame them anyway.
And we must sack managers after each defeat.
I'm a visionary, and if you don't have the same expectations, you must be fans happy with mediocrity.
I'm glad that at last we have someone with your clear vision and perfectly reasonable expectations posting on here.
Some apologists for the sham owners would be happy with a mere 8 wins in a row. That sort of defeatist attitude is what got us where we are now.