Chuks (p.61 - Released)

Chris_from_Sidcup

A lot of people seem to be pinning our hopes on Chuks' return but in recent weeks we could've had Haaland up front and it wouldn't have mattered much because the service into our strikers has been desperately lacking.

follett

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

A lot of people seem to be pinning our hopes on Chuks' return but in recent weeks we could've had Haaland up front and it wouldn't have mattered much because the service into our strikers has been desperately lacking.

The thing with Chuks though is you can get away with that. Lump it up to him and he will hold it up and you can start an attack

Leuth

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

A lot of people seem to be pinning our hopes on Chuks' return but in recent weeks we could've had Haaland up front and it wouldn't have mattered much because the service into our strikers has been desperately lacking.

This is a myth. Strikers work with midfielders and even defenders to create their own service. Any striker who just waits around for a perfect cross won't make it as a pro footballer

GetYerCoreyOut

follett said:

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

A lot of people seem to be pinning our hopes on Chuks' return but in recent weeks we could've had Haaland up front and it wouldn't have mattered much because the service into our strikers has been desperately lacking.

The thing with Chuks though is you can get away with that. Lump it up to him and he will hold it up and you can start an attack

There's not many strikers in league 1 that can compete with Chuck' holdup play. 

fenaddick

Leuth said:

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

A lot of people seem to be pinning our hopes on Chuks' return but in recent weeks we could've had Haaland up front and it wouldn't have mattered much because the service into our strikers has been desperately lacking.

This is a myth. Strikers work with midfielders and even defenders to create their own service. Any striker who just waits around for a perfect cross won't make it as a pro footballer

This is the most useful thing about Chuks, the ball often sticks to his feet and he can hold off defenders for long enough for midfielders to join the attack

se9addick

I get it, it’s a straw to clutch at, but if our only hope is Chucks miraculously being fit for any reasonable period of time to get us out of this mess then we’re essentially relegated. 

Leuth

Get him out there and instruct him to under no circumstances do an extended sprint, even if there's the possibility of a one-on-one. Extended sprints have done his hamstring at least the last two times

sillav nitram

Is there no kind of support that footballers can wear to keep their hamstrings from doing whatever hamstrings do? Similar to knee supports.

Chunes

Leuth said:

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

A lot of people seem to be pinning our hopes on Chuks' return but in recent weeks we could've had Haaland up front and it wouldn't have mattered much because the service into our strikers has been desperately lacking.

This is a myth. Strikers work with midfielders and even defenders to create their own service. Any striker who just waits around for a perfect cross won't make it as a pro footballer

I give you Macauley Bonne...

NabySarr

Chunes said:

Leuth said:

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

A lot of people seem to be pinning our hopes on Chuks' return but in recent weeks we could've had Haaland up front and it wouldn't have mattered much because the service into our strikers has been desperately lacking.

This is a myth. Strikers work with midfielders and even defenders to create their own service. Any striker who just waits around for a perfect cross won't make it as a pro footballer

I give you Macauley Bonne...

Bonne isn’t very good, but that’s not a fair description of him. Maybe we didn’t see it as much second time round because he wasn’t fit but Bonne was a hard working striker first time round, always running the channels and putting a shift in 

In fact, even the second time round he was constantly making runs in behind still. He was just doing it 10 seconds early so was miles offside every time 

fenaddick

sillav nitram said:

Is there no kind of support that footballers can wear to keep their hamstrings from doing whatever hamstrings do? Similar to knee supports.

I know you can use certain tapes cleverly to help when muscle is slightly strained but no idea if that would work on a supposed healthy muscle. Tends to be used more on the upper body too 

Clem_Snide

The long and the short of it is, if Aneke could stay fit he would have had a career at a higher level. Probably mid table premiership. There is a reason he has been skulking round the lower leagues and we all know what it is. Clubs keep taking a chance on him.

Chunes

NabySarr said:

Chunes said:

Leuth said:

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

A lot of people seem to be pinning our hopes on Chuks' return but in recent weeks we could've had Haaland up front and it wouldn't have mattered much because the service into our strikers has been desperately lacking.

This is a myth. Strikers work with midfielders and even defenders to create their own service. Any striker who just waits around for a perfect cross won't make it as a pro footballer

I give you Macauley Bonne...

Bonne isn’t very good, but that’s not a fair description of him. Maybe we didn’t see it as much second time round because he wasn’t fit but Bonne was a hard working striker first time round, always running the channels and putting a shift in 

In fact, even the second time round he was constantly making runs in behind still. He was just doing it 10 seconds early so was miles offside every time 

It was a joke, but all you've added on to his skills list there is that he can run! 

Todds_right_hook

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

A lot of people seem to be pinning our hopes on Chuks' return but in recent weeks we could've had Haaland up front and it wouldn't have mattered much because the service into our strikers has been desperately lacking.

 Chucks creates a lot of chances from passages of play where the ball gets put straight back into our box when he isn't playing. May v blackpool springs to mind

tangoflash

When does his contract expire?

roseandcrown

tangoflash said:

When does his contract expire?

2025 I think 

Todds_right_hook

Chunes said:

Leuth said:

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

A lot of people seem to be pinning our hopes on Chuks' return but in recent weeks we could've had Haaland up front and it wouldn't have mattered much because the service into our strikers has been desperately lacking.

This is a myth. Strikers work with midfielders and even defenders to create their own service. Any striker who just waits around for a perfect cross won't make it as a pro footballer

I give you Macauley Bonne...

Gary Lineker 

tangoflash

roseandcrown said:

tangoflash said:

When does his contract expire?

2025 I think 

In one way that's not good that we have another year of paying his medical bills, but looking for a plus side, the last thing we need right now is a half-hearted Chuks worrying about breaking down again, so close to the end of his contract. We need him fully committed to helping us pull away from this nightmare situation we find ourselves in.

Callumcafc

Leuth said:

Get him out there and instruct him to under no circumstances do an extended sprint, even if there's the possibility of a one-on-one. Extended sprints have done his hamstring at least the last two times

Yep, get him in the line up and fine him a day of wages for each sprint he breaks into. Just put him up front, have him goal hang and let the ball stick to him. That would solve 80% of our problems.

seth plum

What if he breaks out into a sprint (ish) to stay onside?

wmcf123

Callumcafc said:

Leuth said:

Get him out there and instruct him to under no circumstances do an extended sprint, even if there's the possibility of a one-on-one. Extended sprints have done his hamstring at least the last two times

Yep, get him in the line up and fine him a day of wages for each sprint he breaks into. Just put him up front, have him goal hang and let the ball stick to him. That would solve 80% of our problems.

The ball doesn’t stick to him though.  He’s got  nuisance value and physical presence when he turns up but let’s not pretend his hold up play is that outstanding .  It might be the best in our squad , I’ll give you that .

Rothko

wmcf123 said:

Callumcafc said:

Leuth said:

Get him out there and instruct him to under no circumstances do an extended sprint, even if there's the possibility of a one-on-one. Extended sprints have done his hamstring at least the last two times

Yep, get him in the line up and fine him a day of wages for each sprint he breaks into. Just put him up front, have him goal hang and let the ball stick to him. That would solve 80% of our problems.

The ball doesn’t stick to him though.  He’s got  nuisance value and physical presence when he turns up but let’s not pretend his hold up play is that outstanding .  It might be the best in our squad , I’ll give you that .

He's a battering ram against a tiring defense, the absolute mess he made of Stevenage's back four when he came on was something else. 

He's physical, has a great touch, and can score. We just need to use him in 20/30 minutes bursts 

J BLOCK

GetYerCoreyOut said:

follett said:

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

A lot of people seem to be pinning our hopes on Chuks' return but in recent weeks we could've had Haaland up front and it wouldn't have mattered much because the service into our strikers has been desperately lacking.

The thing with Chuks though is you can get away with that. Lump it up to him and he will hold it up and you can start an attack

There's not many strikers in league 1 that can compete with Chuck' holdup play. 

There's none in my opinion. The bloke is a game changer and much much better than league One. 

Exiled_Addick

Rothko said:

wmcf123 said:

Callumcafc said:

Leuth said:

Get him out there and instruct him to under no circumstances do an extended sprint, even if there's the possibility of a one-on-one. Extended sprints have done his hamstring at least the last two times

Yep, get him in the line up and fine him a day of wages for each sprint he breaks into. Just put him up front, have him goal hang and let the ball stick to him. That would solve 80% of our problems.

The ball doesn’t stick to him though.  He’s got  nuisance value and physical presence when he turns up but let’s not pretend his hold up play is that outstanding .  It might be the best in our squad , I’ll give you that .

He's a battering ram against a tiring defense, the absolute mess he made of Stevenage's back four when he came on was something else. 

He's physical, has a great touch, and can score. We just need to use him in 20/30 minutes bursts 

This is exactly the right way to use him, the problem is we have to be still in the game (ideally ahead or level, but certainly no more than one goal behind) at the 60 to 70 minute mark.

Right now, if we're only two goals down by that stage, then we're probably having an abnormally solid game defensively.

wmcf123

Rothko said:

wmcf123 said:

Callumcafc said:

Leuth said:

Get him out there and instruct him to under no circumstances do an extended sprint, even if there's the possibility of a one-on-one. Extended sprints have done his hamstring at least the last two times

Yep, get him in the line up and fine him a day of wages for each sprint he breaks into. Just put him up front, have him goal hang and let the ball stick to him. That would solve 80% of our problems.

The ball doesn’t stick to him though.  He’s got  nuisance value and physical presence when he turns up but let’s not pretend his hold up play is that outstanding .  It might be the best in our squad , I’ll give you that .

He's a battering ram against a tiring defense, the absolute mess he made of Stevenage's back four when he came on was something else. 

He's physical, has a great touch, and can score. We just need to use him in 20/30 minutes bursts 

I really contest “great touch”.  A battering ram against a tired defence , yes .  

CAFCDAZ

mendonca said:

Is it really worth poking predictable fun out of Chuks?

Our season did start and finish with his appearance. He looked so sharp. 

As long as his managed properly he will be fine. He just can't play 90 minutes and has to be rotate. The Medical team I believe are aware of what the problem is and how it should be managed, its just whether that is listened to. It seems Appleton chose to ignore the advice from what I understand.

usetobunkin

sillav nitram said:

Is there no kind of support that footballers can wear to keep their hamstrings from doing whatever hamstrings do? Similar to knee supports.

Warming up properly might be a good start. I sit in B Block and watch the routine they laughing call a "warm up".  The stretching routine is almost comical. 

Scoham

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

A lot of people seem to be pinning our hopes on Chuks' return but in recent weeks we could've had Haaland up front and it wouldn't have mattered much because the service into our strikers has been desperately lacking.

Haaland would win and hold up the ball which would help us create a lot more chances and reduce the number of chances the opposition create.

It’s amazing we knew for months we needed a physical striker yet they sign Ladapo and wonder why he’s not effective at holding up the ball.

Rothko

I don’t think Ladapo is a starter to be honest, again, he’ll be a right pain with 30 to go, but not to get a game going 

Isawsummersplay

Was this not the way Ipswich used him? At the moment, he has not done enough to justify starting a match, whereas Kanu has earned the right to be first choice.