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January 2024 Transfer Rumours (D/day starts pg.263)
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Looks to have a good scoring record down the middle...Scoham said:
Yeah he was at Cheltenham last season but barely played. Seems he’s had a breakthrough this season, probably helped by May leaving.Elthamaddick said:Alfie must know Goodwin??
It’s only half a season though, can only think we’re impressed by his all round game because his goalscoring record isn’t that impressive.
Only 21 so hopefully we’ve spotted someone with real potential and are getting in there early before he pushes on further.
It’s a gamble, but if we wait too long and he starts scoring regularly there could be interest from Championship clubs with bigger budgets. And if he’s not our only striker signing the pressure won’t be on him to make an immediate impact.
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This. I reckon the SMT have had a word and said change your ways or you're out. They have then backed their new system by bringing in players for him.thenewbie said:
I agree, though I will admit to (very cautious) optimism that we seem to have learned from those mistakes and 3-5-2 appears to be a formation we are actually building towards instead of doubling down on the failed experiment (which I'm not denying has gone on for far too long already.)NabySarr said:
We played 3-5-2 for the first 2 games and it worked fine with CBT at wing back, he was our best player. With Thomas LCB we just shifted into a back 4 at times and CBT didn’t have to do much defending. All we needed was a proper striker and we’d have been fine but Holden never got one.FishCostaFortune said:
We have been paying 4-3-3 because we never had the squad to play 3-5-2.golfaddick said:So suddenly, after rigidly (and I mean RIGIDLY) playing 4-3-3 we are now switching to 3-5-2 at a drop of a hat......even though the first 45 mins on Saturday was dire.
Epic.
Only really one fit striker, and CBT who can't play as a wing back and you would be a brave manager to drop him. Imagine the scenes if Apples did.
Furthermore Abrankwah who seemed to someone who should slot into that right side of a back 3 was not rated, and Ness had a poor pre-season wwhich only left us with Thomas to play 3 at the back.
What formation would you have played Golfie and why?We shouldn’t have sacked Holden so soon, and then even after that, the new manager should have been continuing that plan rather than going with Appleton’s different approach. Scott and Appletons failure to realise this sooner is the reason our season is over
I'm curious to know if Appleton has somehow had some sort of epiphany or whether someone has given him the ultimatum to either change formation or sling his hook.3 -
I don't think he's the answer then. We already have Leaburn & Kanu as "break through" youngsters, we need an experienced striker to lead the line.Scoham said:
Yeah he was at Cheltenham last season but barely played. Seems he’s had a breakthrough this season, probably helped by May leaving.Elthamaddick said:Alfie must know Goodwin??
It’s only half a season though, can only think we’re impressed by his all round game because his goalscoring record isn’t that impressive.
Only 21 so hopefully we’ve spotted someone with real potential and are getting in there early before he pushes on further.
It’s a gamble, but if we wait too long and he starts scoring regularly there could be interest from Championship clubs with bigger budgets. And if he’s not our only striker signing the pressure won’t be on him to make an immediate impact.3 -
I think the aim would be to go into next season with May, 2 new strikers, Leaburn and Aneke. So we are probably looking for a senior striker along with Goodwin. Kanu can then go out on loan which is what he needsgolfaddick said:
I don't think he's the answer then. We already have Leaburn & Kanu as "break through" youngsters, we need an experienced striker to lead the line.Scoham said:
Yeah he was at Cheltenham last season but barely played. Seems he’s had a breakthrough this season, probably helped by May leaving.Elthamaddick said:Alfie must know Goodwin??
It’s only half a season though, can only think we’re impressed by his all round game because his goalscoring record isn’t that impressive.
Only 21 so hopefully we’ve spotted someone with real potential and are getting in there early before he pushes on further.
It’s a gamble, but if we wait too long and he starts scoring regularly there could be interest from Championship clubs with bigger budgets. And if he’s not our only striker signing the pressure won’t be on him to make an immediate impact.2 -
This season yes, previously very much not. The risk is there that he's in a purple patch that won't be repeated. That said he's a big lad and hopefully brings more than just goals.ButtleJR said:
Looks to have a good scoring record down the middle...Scoham said:
Yeah he was at Cheltenham last season but barely played. Seems he’s had a breakthrough this season, probably helped by May leaving.Elthamaddick said:Alfie must know Goodwin??
It’s only half a season though, can only think we’re impressed by his all round game because his goalscoring record isn’t that impressive.
Only 21 so hopefully we’ve spotted someone with real potential and are getting in there early before he pushes on further.
It’s a gamble, but if we wait too long and he starts scoring regularly there could be interest from Championship clubs with bigger budgets. And if he’s not our only striker signing the pressure won’t be on him to make an immediate impact.
Feels like if we can't get JCH then we're looking at getting someone who could become the next version... and honestly that is not a bad idea (if it works.)1 -
Think I prefer Goodwin to JCH
Potential and physical presence rather than a player on the way down who wants the £.29 -
First half was 4321 with two number 10 second half we went 4132Yann897 said:
We played 352 in the second half not the first half .golfaddick said:So suddenly, after rigidly (and I mean RIGIDLY) playing 4-3-3 we are now switching to 3-5-2 at a drop of a hat......even though the first 45 mins on Saturday was dire.
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The new managers favoured formation is 3-5-2.golfaddick said:So suddenly, after rigidly (and I mean RIGIDLY) playing 4-3-3 we are now switching to 3-5-2 at a drop of a hat......even though the first 45 mins on Saturday was dire.
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My optimistic side says that with an improved midfield we’ll create more opportunities for the front men. This season we’ve seen players like Kanu, and sometimes even Leaburn, really struggling because of lack of service and poor support. Kanu looked pretty decent in the second half playing in a front two with an improved midfield. Goodwin, also, would have a better chance to thrive than he would have had earlier in the season.NabySarr said:
I think the aim would be to go into next season with May, 2 new strikers, Leaburn and Aneke. So we are probably looking for a senior striker along with Goodwin. Kanu can then go out on loan which is what he needsgolfaddick said:
I don't think he's the answer then. We already have Leaburn & Kanu as "break through" youngsters, we need an experienced striker to lead the line.Scoham said:
Yeah he was at Cheltenham last season but barely played. Seems he’s had a breakthrough this season, probably helped by May leaving.Elthamaddick said:Alfie must know Goodwin??
It’s only half a season though, can only think we’re impressed by his all round game because his goalscoring record isn’t that impressive.
Only 21 so hopefully we’ve spotted someone with real potential and are getting in there early before he pushes on further.
It’s a gamble, but if we wait too long and he starts scoring regularly there could be interest from Championship clubs with bigger budgets. And if he’s not our only striker signing the pressure won’t be on him to make an immediate impact.0 -
He's only 21 so makes sense why he wouldn't score loads in his first season.thenewbie said:
This season yes, previously very much not. The risk is there that he's in a purple patch that won't be repeated. That said he's a big lad and hopefully brings more than just goals.ButtleJR said:
Looks to have a good scoring record down the middle...Scoham said:
Yeah he was at Cheltenham last season but barely played. Seems he’s had a breakthrough this season, probably helped by May leaving.Elthamaddick said:Alfie must know Goodwin??
It’s only half a season though, can only think we’re impressed by his all round game because his goalscoring record isn’t that impressive.
Only 21 so hopefully we’ve spotted someone with real potential and are getting in there early before he pushes on further.
It’s a gamble, but if we wait too long and he starts scoring regularly there could be interest from Championship clubs with bigger budgets. And if he’s not our only striker signing the pressure won’t be on him to make an immediate impact.
Either way, we don't need to him score as many as May (although would be a bonus), if he can hold the ball up then we'll already be looking much better.3 -
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I wonder if in an ideal world it'll be Goodwin + Ladapo later in the window? Ladapo would allow us to still play a 433 if needed3
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I’m certainly happy that Goodwin could be coming but surely he’s not going to be the senior striker we need. Hardly comparable to JCH. I think this is a buy in the full knowledge that if not the summer then next January Miles will be sold. Goodwin and Leaburn seem to me to be to be far more comparable. No idea and I doubt we’ll find out what we’ve bid for Goodwin but it might shine a light on what we might expect for Leaburn. I suspect not the gazillions that some people think he might be worth.0
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Oh I agree, I'd prefer Goodwin over JCH personally but he's definitely a prospect rather than a finished product (which I have no issue with.)Chunes said:
He's only 21 so makes sense why he wouldn't score loads in his first season.thenewbie said:
This season yes, previously very much not. The risk is there that he's in a purple patch that won't be repeated. That said he's a big lad and hopefully brings more than just goals.ButtleJR said:
Looks to have a good scoring record down the middle...Scoham said:
Yeah he was at Cheltenham last season but barely played. Seems he’s had a breakthrough this season, probably helped by May leaving.Elthamaddick said:Alfie must know Goodwin??
It’s only half a season though, can only think we’re impressed by his all round game because his goalscoring record isn’t that impressive.
Only 21 so hopefully we’ve spotted someone with real potential and are getting in there early before he pushes on further.
It’s a gamble, but if we wait too long and he starts scoring regularly there could be interest from Championship clubs with bigger budgets. And if he’s not our only striker signing the pressure won’t be on him to make an immediate impact.
Either way, we don't need to him score as many as Many (although would be a bonus), if he can hold the ball up then we'll already be looking much better.1 -
Didn’t Cheltenham start the season breaking records for not scoring? Now we are trying to buy there striker.28
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Leaburn is at a much higher level than Goodwin at the moment, albeit with a question mark over his durability. I watch the EFL highlights show every week, and didn't recognise his name.ShootersHillGuru said:I’m certainly happy that Goodwin could be coming but surely he’s not going to be the senior striker we need. Hardly comparable to JCH. I think this is a buy in the full knowledge that if not the summer then next January Miles will be sold. Goodwin and Leaburn seem to me to be to be far more comparable. No idea and I doubt we’ll find out what we’ve bid for Goodwin but it might shine a light on what we might expect for Leaburn. I suspect not the gazillions that some people think he might be worth.
Which isn't to say he'd be a bad buy, but you couldn't imagine one of the teams chasing the automatics this season buying him to get them over the line this season.0 -
So apples will play him on the left and May on the right.thenewbie said:
This season yes, previously very much not. The risk is there that he's in a purple patch that won't be repeated. That said he's a big lad and hopefully brings more than just goals.ButtleJR said:
Looks to have a good scoring record down the middle...Scoham said:
Yeah he was at Cheltenham last season but barely played. Seems he’s had a breakthrough this season, probably helped by May leaving.Elthamaddick said:Alfie must know Goodwin??
It’s only half a season though, can only think we’re impressed by his all round game because his goalscoring record isn’t that impressive.
Only 21 so hopefully we’ve spotted someone with real potential and are getting in there early before he pushes on further.
It’s a gamble, but if we wait too long and he starts scoring regularly there could be interest from Championship clubs with bigger budgets. And if he’s not our only striker signing the pressure won’t be on him to make an immediate impact.
Feels like if we can't get JCH then we're looking at getting someone who could become the next version... and honestly that is not a bad idea (if it works.)0 -
Yeah, 11 games without scoring. But that’s like blaming every goal conceded on the keeper.Stewart said:Didn’t Cheltenham start the season breaking records for not scoring? Now we are trying to buy there striker.2 -
😂😂😂 this is some serious nonsenseRonnieMoore said:
First half was 4321 with two number 10 second half we went 4132Yann897 said:
We played 352 in the second half not the first half .golfaddick said:So suddenly, after rigidly (and I mean RIGIDLY) playing 4-3-3 we are now switching to 3-5-2 at a drop of a hat......even though the first 45 mins on Saturday was dire.
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Perhaps the Goodwin signing is something akin to what Peterborough have been doing for years.11
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golfaddick said:
I don't think he's the answer then. We already have Leaburn & Kanu as "break through" youngsters, we need an experienced striker to lead the line.Scoham said:
Yeah he was at Cheltenham last season but barely played. Seems he’s had a breakthrough this season, probably helped by May leaving.Elthamaddick said:Alfie must know Goodwin??
It’s only half a season though, can only think we’re impressed by his all round game because his goalscoring record isn’t that impressive.
Only 21 so hopefully we’ve spotted someone with real potential and are getting in there early before he pushes on further.
It’s a gamble, but if we wait too long and he starts scoring regularly there could be interest from Championship clubs with bigger budgets. And if he’s not our only striker signing the pressure won’t be on him to make an immediate impact.
I have no issue with him coming in if we also sign an experienced striker, I agree that’s the type of player we need.
We’re possibly planning ahead for him to step up even more if/when Leaburn is sold?
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Goodwin sounds an interesting one if it happens.
Can't look at his stats though and be disappointed, in some ways this is the direction we need to go with our scouting
We need to get more like the Oxford's (ironically after him as well), and Peterborough's, in finding the decent players BEFORE they become the expensive options that will just go to a level higher than us... Its equally how Brighton and Brentford got into the position they're in now, albeit they also had the option of looking abroad
It worked back in the 90s with your Kinsella's etc.5 -
That's my hope - JCH is probably the better player right now but Goodwin will hopefully get better whereas JCH is likely to be on the decline.ShootersHillGuru said:Perhaps the Goodwin signing is something akin to what Peterborough have been doing for years.
It's a gamble but one I'd be okay taking, albeit ideal world I'd want a Ladapo type loan as well if I'm being greedy.1 -
If we're going back to 5-3-2 / 3-5-2 surely we bring back the visionary Dean Holden who saw the bloody squad couldn't play 4-3-3
Honestly the current set up have taken 13 games of goals conceded, zero points (not literally), zero hope, no playing style, no ability to win games to decide what some of us have been saying all bloody year!!!
At least they've apparently worked it out.
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Both will do me just fineValley11 said:Think I prefer Goodwin to JCH
Potential and physical presence rather than a player on the way down who wants the £.1 -
When it comes to central defenders and playing 3-4-1-2/3-5-2 we also have Zach Mitchell to come in next season, who by all accounts is having a very solid season in league 2 playing in that formation, still only 18 and very comfortable on the ball. Him, Jones and Gillesphey could be very decent back 3. I do feel we need some wingbacks that offer a threat going forward if we are going to do well with this formation.14
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NabySarr said:
I think the aim would be to go into next season with May, 2 new strikers, Leaburn and Aneke. So we are probably looking for a senior striker along with Goodwin. Kanu can then go out on loan which is what he needsgolfaddick said:
I don't think he's the answer then. We already have Leaburn & Kanu as "break through" youngsters, we need an experienced striker to lead the line.Scoham said:
Yeah he was at Cheltenham last season but barely played. Seems he’s had a breakthrough this season, probably helped by May leaving.Elthamaddick said:Alfie must know Goodwin??
It’s only half a season though, can only think we’re impressed by his all round game because his goalscoring record isn’t that impressive.
Only 21 so hopefully we’ve spotted someone with real potential and are getting in there early before he pushes on further.
It’s a gamble, but if we wait too long and he starts scoring regularly there could be interest from Championship clubs with bigger budgets. And if he’s not our only striker signing the pressure won’t be on him to make an immediate impact.
Unless he signs a new contract Kanu won't be here next season. Leaburn I fully expect we sell in the summer and Aneke is always injured. We need 2 new strikers alongside May now and may even need a 4th in the summer.2 -
So the team playing out this season could look like:
Isted
Jones Ness MG
Watson Dobson Coventry Bakinson Tayo
May Goodwin
Be good to get another striker in who could cover for May, then let Kanu go back to Southend.
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I’d hope we can get Kanu on a new contract, and if we can’t get Leaburn on one then I’d hope we can get him on loan as part of any dealAthletico Charlton said:NabySarr said:
I think the aim would be to go into next season with May, 2 new strikers, Leaburn and Aneke. So we are probably looking for a senior striker along with Goodwin. Kanu can then go out on loan which is what he needsgolfaddick said:
I don't think he's the answer then. We already have Leaburn & Kanu as "break through" youngsters, we need an experienced striker to lead the line.Scoham said:
Yeah he was at Cheltenham last season but barely played. Seems he’s had a breakthrough this season, probably helped by May leaving.Elthamaddick said:Alfie must know Goodwin??
It’s only half a season though, can only think we’re impressed by his all round game because his goalscoring record isn’t that impressive.
Only 21 so hopefully we’ve spotted someone with real potential and are getting in there early before he pushes on further.
It’s a gamble, but if we wait too long and he starts scoring regularly there could be interest from Championship clubs with bigger budgets. And if he’s not our only striker signing the pressure won’t be on him to make an immediate impact.
Unless he signs a new contract Kanu won't be here next season. Leaburn I fully expect we sell in the summer and Aneke is always injured. We need 2 new strikers alongside May now and may even need a 4th in the summer.3 -
Goodwin missed 10 out of the 11 games at the start of the season due to injuryStewart said:Didn’t Cheltenham start the season breaking records for not scoring? Now we are trying to buy there striker.8
