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  • Do we reckon he'll catch Sachin?

    Enormous task but Root looks as though he's got years and years left in the game.
  • Do we reckon he'll catch Sachin?

    Enormous task but Root looks as though he's got years and years left in the game.
    Alistair Cook thinks if he stays injury free he will, tend to agree
  • Brook gets straight into it
  • Glad both Brook and Root got their milestones after being on 49 & 99 at the same time!
  • fenaddick said:
    Do we reckon he'll catch Sachin?

    Enormous task but Root looks as though he's got years and years left in the game.
    Alistair Cook thinks if he stays injury free he will, tend to agree
    Will anyone catch Root if he goes top?

    He's well clear of the players still playing, and will the next generation play as much Test cricket?
    Root 12513
    Smith 9685
    Kohli 8947
    Williamson 8881
  • fenaddick said:
    Do we reckon he'll catch Sachin?

    Enormous task but Root looks as though he's got years and years left in the game.
    Alistair Cook thinks if he stays injury free he will, tend to agree
    Will anyone catch Root if he goes top?

    He's well clear of the players still playing, and will the next generation play as much Test cricket?
    Root 12513
    Smith 9685
    Kohli 8947
    Williamson 8881
    I'd be surprised if even someone like Jaiswal would play enough tests to get close to what Root is currently on, let alone Sachin/Root's future record.
  • fenaddick said:
    Do we reckon he'll catch Sachin?

    Enormous task but Root looks as though he's got years and years left in the game.
    Alistair Cook thinks if he stays injury free he will, tend to agree
    Will anyone catch Root if he goes top?

    He's well clear of the players still playing, and will the next generation play as much Test cricket?
    Root 12513
    Smith 9685
    Kohli 8947
    Williamson 8881
    Seems unlikely with the decline in the amount of tests. I guess the fact that a younger English generation score quicker could have an effect but not by much. Brook would probably be most likely as he started quite young and has a high strike rate but still seems unlikely 
  • 2 sessions in and not a single maiden!
  • Crawley and Duckett will be kicking themselves for not converting but not as much as Pope for totally missing out here
  • Absolute road
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  • Cannot begin to understand how tired both batters must be. It may be an absolute road but to not chip one into someone’s hand after batting all day and some of last night like Root has is seriously impressive. 
  • edited October 9
    fenaddick said:
    Cannot begin to understand how tired both batters must be. It may be an absolute road but to not chip one into someone’s hand after batting all day and some of last night like Root has is seriously impressive. 
    Less than 20 minutes left in day 3 and Joe Root has been on the field / in the middle for all but 8 balls of it.
  • Shout out to Jamie Smith for having to wear his pads for hours and hours on end too
  • 492-3 (101) at close and 64 behind

    Root   176* (277)
    Brook 141* (173)
  • What a superb effort by Root in brutal conditions.
  • fenaddick said:
    Shout out to Jamie Smith for having to wear his pads for hours and hours on end too
    Such a bonus for Smith to have the whole day off, after keeping for 1 3/4 days
  • Odds on a pitch investigation?
  • Quote from an analyst quoted by the BBC text commentary: "This pitch currently has a PitchViz rating of 2.6. That makes it the fifth-flattest pitch in the ball-tracking era in the first three days of a Test and the second-flattest in a Test that England have been involved in after the Hamilton Test v New Zealand in 2019."

    TBH I have no idea how you measure the flatness of a pitch statistically, nor of how far back the ball-tracking era goes (presumably they're using info on turn, seam and variability of bounce that has only been collected relatively recently). But the suggestion seems to be it's not just very flat, but ridiculously so.
  • It looked like a road before a ball was bowled.
    I don't recall seeing a pitch like that since my childhood when it wasn't uncommon for teams to score 500/600. 
  • It looked like a road before a ball was bowled.
    I don't recall seeing a pitch like that since my childhood when it wasn't uncommon for teams to score 500/600. 
    Yes, it's like those Asian pitches from 30/40 years ago, where the batsmen would slowly rack up massive tons in incredibly dull games.
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  • And the good news is the second test is also in Multan so that should be another cracker.
  • shirty5 said:
    Joe Root - England’s greatest ever batsman 

    Rahul Dravid next on the list now he has gone past Cook.
    1 Sachin Tendulkar 15921
    2 Ricky Pointing 13378
    3 Jacques Kallis 13289
    4 Rahul Dravid. 13288
    5. Joe Root 12474
    He's already added 104 more runs since this post. With another test to come in Multan and then 4 more tests in 2024, he might not be too far away from Dravid/Kallis by the end of this year.
  • fenaddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    Do we reckon he'll catch Sachin?

    Enormous task but Root looks as though he's got years and years left in the game.
    Alistair Cook thinks if he stays injury free he will, tend to agree
    Will anyone catch Root if he goes top?

    He's well clear of the players still playing, and will the next generation play as much Test cricket?
    Root 12513
    Smith 9685
    Kohli 8947
    Williamson 8881
    Seems unlikely with the decline in the amount of tests. I guess the fact that a younger English generation score quicker could have an effect but not by much. Brook would probably be most likely as he started quite young and has a high strike rate but still seems unlikely 
    Agreed it is unlikely, and also worth noting it is very difficult for players from other nations to get close as they play much fewer tests.

    For instance on that list
    Root has played 147 tests
    Smith 109
    Kohli 115
    Williamson 102

    Take nothing away from Root though a very impressive feat.
  • fenaddick said:
    Do we reckon he'll catch Sachin?

    Enormous task but Root looks as though he's got years and years left in the game.
    Alistair Cook thinks if he stays injury free he will, tend to agree
    Don’t you mean Sir Alistair Cook?
  • We will roll them over for less than 250 and win this
  • edited October 9
    It looked like a road before a ball was bowled.
    I don't recall seeing a pitch like that since my childhood when it wasn't uncommon for teams to score 500/600. 
    Yes, it's like those Asian pitches from 30/40 years ago, where the batsmen would slowly rack up massive tons in incredibly dull games.
    Anyone remember this? I know it's Edgbaston.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GRjx0IVaPw&ab_channel=DMMORDECAI
  • 250 up for Root
    200 up for Brook

    Partnership is now approaching 400.
  • At what point do you think sod the win, let one of these two go for Lara's record?  300, 350?
  • Got to be a pitch investigation surely? This isn't just a road it's a motorway. The likes of Shaheen and Naseem Shah are never going to develop on pitches this flat. 
  • edited October 10
    250 up for Root
    200 up for Brook

    Partnership is now approaching 400.

    411 is the record partnership for England.
    May and Cowdrey V Windies 1957, Edgbaston.

    Root and Brook have gone past Stokes and Bairstow who shared 399 in Cape town 2016.

    Lunch: 409 partnership and 3 runs short of record.

    658 for 3 including a Duck ! 

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