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  • Leuth said:
    Bryson Carse makes his Test debut, in the revolving door that is the England seam bowling department post Jimmy and Broady.
    They're trying so hard to make this happen aren't they. His recent FC record is....let's be polite and say it isn't encouraging. But, yknow. He has attributes
    Rewind 5 months and delete cares and add Atkinson and I could be reading similar posts on the same thread
    I hope he continues to do it but I can see this approach to fast bowling absolutely melting down when a serious batting lineup gets its mitts on England. Pakistan should be rubbing their hands frankly. Alas they're a rabble 
  • Pakistan, having won the toss, elected to bat and on a docile pitch, have made England's attack look somewhat ordinary. A legside strangle from Atkinson is all we have to show for our efforts. The mystery is why Pope persisted with Bashir (6-0-42-0) but only threw the ball to our senior (and better) spinner, Leach, for a token over at the end of the session.

    122-1 (25)
  • Shan Masood can't have been too far away from qualifying for England at one point. He was born in Kuwait but went to Stamford School (as did MJK Smith, Josh Hull, Joey Evison and Zak Chappell), then studied economics at Durham University after which he undertook a long distance course in Management and Sports Sciences at Loughborough University. More recently, he captained Yorkshire to promotion. 
  • Excellent 100* (102) from Shan Masood. That's 1,524 days since his last Test ton.

    177-1 (38)
  • Leuth said:
    Leuth said:
    Bryson Carse makes his Test debut, in the revolving door that is the England seam bowling department post Jimmy and Broady.
    They're trying so hard to make this happen aren't they. His recent FC record is....let's be polite and say it isn't encouraging. But, yknow. He has attributes
    Rewind 5 months and delete cares and add Atkinson and I could be reading similar posts on the same thread
    I hope he continues to do it but I can see this approach to fast bowling absolutely melting down when a serious batting lineup gets its mitts on England. Pakistan should be rubbing their hands frankly. Alas they're a rabble 
    Well now
  • England's weak and underprepared bowling getting carted all over Multan .. the pacemen moving from chilly Bristol to the Multan oven are really suffering
  • Excellent 100* (102) from Shan Masood. That's 1,524 days since his last Test ton.

    177-1 (38)
    One of the most apologetic ton celebrations of all time, haha. Knows how lucky he is to be in the side 
  • Fantastic to have Lord Gower on commentary. Shame we haven't got Bumble too. 
  • Obviously England not doing great but this pitch is shockingly flat. Think it’s one of those games you can only judge after both teams have batted a bit. Has draw written all over it for me
  • 233-1 (52) at tea
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  • fenaddick said:
    Obviously England not doing great but this pitch is shockingly flat. Think it’s one of those games you can only judge after both teams have batted a bit. Has draw written all over it for me
    I'm sure England will do their best to find different ways to be all out for under 300. Top edging their spinner first ball received or being stumped walking down the wicket to a wide one. 
  • fenaddick said:
    Obviously England not doing great but this pitch is shockingly flat. Think it’s one of those games you can only judge after both teams have batted a bit. Has draw written all over it for me
    I'm sure England will do their best to find different ways to be all out for under 300. Top edging their spinner first ball received or being stumped walking down the wicket to a wide one. 
    My money is on an Ollie Pope reverse sweep in his first over
  • Multan Graveyard for English Bowlers


  • fenaddick said:
    Obviously England not doing great but this pitch is shockingly flat. Think it’s one of those games you can only judge after both teams have batted a bit. Has draw written all over it for me
    I know it's fairly common to see pitches that are like a road on the sub-continent but what exactly do they get out of preparing such pitches?

    Why not prepare a pitch that is more likely to see a result?

    Although i wouldn't be surprised if we go and do what Golfie posted above though.
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    100* (166) for Abdullah Shafique

    246-1 (55)
  • England's weak and underprepared bowling getting carted all over Multan .. the pacemen moving from chilly Bristol to the Multan oven are really suffering
    You could have the peak West Indies bowling attack out there and it would make little difference. It's like playing on the M25
  • fenaddick said:
    Obviously England not doing great but this pitch is shockingly flat. Think it’s one of those games you can only judge after both teams have batted a bit. Has draw written all over it for me
    I know it's fairly common to see pitches that are like a road on the sub-continent but what exactly do they get out of preparing such pitches?

    Why not prepare a pitch that is more likely to see a result?

    Although i wouldn't be surprised if we go and do what Golfie posted above though.
    My guess is you're more likely to get 4/5 days play so you can sell a few more tickets and you can tell your broadcasters they're getting more bang for your buck. The reality is you get a less good spectacle.

    I also think Golfie could be right so another theory with the flat pitch is that England will throw wickets away anyway, why not create a pitch that's easy for your batters to score on? Must massively increase their chances of winning.
  • You'd have hoped it would be reverse swinging a bit by now. Not sure this England attack has those skills though
  • You'd have hoped it would be reverse swinging a bit by now. Not sure this England attack has those skills though
    if only they had a legendary seam bowler on their coaching staff they could turn to for advice 
  • Abdullah out for 102. 262/2
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  • Collapse time. Shan Masood gone too

    263-3
  • fenaddick said:
    You'd have hoped it would be reverse swinging a bit by now. Not sure this England attack has those skills though
    if only they had a legendary seam bowler on their coaching staff they could turn to for advice 
    When he's not playing golf
  • Shan Masood C&B Leach for 151, tiredness definitely set in there
  • fenaddick said:
    You'd have hoped it would be reverse swinging a bit by now. Not sure this England attack has those skills though
    if only they had a legendary seam bowler on their coaching staff they could turn to for advice 
    When he's not playing golf
    Exactly. He was playing in the Alfred Dunhill Tournamount up until Saturday. Don't think he made it through to Sunday but in any case I doubt he's been able to give the bowlers much input before this Test. 
  • Sad to see how empty the stadium is - mix of fans preferring the short format, economic issues and it having to be held on Multan?
  • Great effort by Woakes, crucial breakthrough.
  • Sad to see how empty the stadium is - mix of fans preferring the short format, economic issues and it having to be held on Multan?
    A Monday doesn't help, and Pakistan have been terrible this year
  • 328-4 (86) at close
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  • fenaddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    Obviously England not doing great but this pitch is shockingly flat. Think it’s one of those games you can only judge after both teams have batted a bit. Has draw written all over it for me
    I know it's fairly common to see pitches that are like a road on the sub-continent but what exactly do they get out of preparing such pitches?

    Why not prepare a pitch that is more likely to see a result?

    Although i wouldn't be surprised if we go and do what Golfie posted above though.
    My guess is you're more likely to get 4/5 days play so you can sell a few more tickets and you can tell your broadcasters they're getting more bang for your buck. The reality is you get a less good spectacle.

    I also think Golfie could be right so another theory with the flat pitch is that England will throw wickets away anyway, why not create a pitch that's easy for your batters to score on? Must massively increase their chances of winning.
    Yeah, I think that's probably the thinking - if you know the opposition always play aggressively regardless of the situation, prepare a pitch the rewards patience and slow steady progress, then watch the opposition miss out on the extra scoring opportunities because they still want to score at 5 an over.
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