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Who will be the new Charlton coach? - p103. Nathan Jones confirmed
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Rest him for 2 games so he doesn't have to miss 2 games. I agree with you though, I do think that Dobson will miss out again this weekend.DyerConsequences said:Wouldn't be surprised to see Dobson left out again. 2 games left before the 10 yellow card ban finishes.
I think he will keep Coventry in this weekend but I suspect Bakinson will come back in for Camara.3 -
Not convinced about Bakinson returning but agree with the rest.RC_CAFC said:
Rest him for 2 games so he doesn't have to miss 2 games. I agree with you though, I do think that Dobson will miss out again this weekend.DyerConsequences said:Wouldn't be surprised to see Dobson left out again. 2 games left before the 10 yellow card ban finishes.
I think he will keep Coventry in this weekend but I suspect Bakinson will come back in for Camara.1 -
I didn't mean he wasn't massively responsible for their success. I meant he wasn't actually there when the last L1 promotion was achieved, as he'd moved on. He didn't get the glory, the celebrations on the pitch and with the fans, the champagne flowing, the open top buses etc.cafc_se7 said:
I mean come on, he more or less got Luton promoted from league one. Micky Hartford hardly needed to lift a finger! Equally he contributed a huge amount to their championship playoff campaign the season before last.killerandflash said:
Since the L2 promotion, Jones hasn't achieved any formal success in his career, I'm sure he'll want that. He built the successful Luton teams, but had departed when they got their last 2 promotions.J BLOCK said:
Genuinely don't think he would. He has obviously been promised a sizeable budget to spend in the summer, he wouldn't have accepted this job without it. Promotion next season (if we stay up) is more than doable and would look better on his CV than a mid-table campaign with Cardiff. It's also worth mentioning he's chopped and changed clubs a fair bit in recent years which isn't a good look and he'll be aware of that.Valley11 said:He’s proving to be everything we thought he would.
Feels so positive that he and we build back our reputations.
I think we probably want the Cardiff manager to stay in post for as long as possible, as you’d think if that vacancy came up and Jones is doing well with us, he’d be a real contender and would probably fancy it.
Cardiff aren't a bigger club that us anyway. Obviously more successful than us at the moment, but in recent years they look stuck in Championship mediocrity, more likely to go down than go up.
Getting Charlton promoted next season would be far more memorable, and something to be proud of, then departing again mid season for a mediocre Championship job like Cardiff.
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The next 2 games are potentially harder than the following 2. It would be slightly odd to deliberately make a player miss Northampton and Cheltenham, to save them for Carlisle and Fleetwood.RC_CAFC said:
Rest him for 2 games so he doesn't have to miss 2 games. I agree with you though, I do think that Dobson will miss out again this weekend.DyerConsequences said:Wouldn't be surprised to see Dobson left out again. 2 games left before the 10 yellow card ban finishes.
I think he will keep Coventry in this weekend but I suspect Bakinson will come back in for Camara.0 -
The players proved they’re good enough without Dobson last night.
To me it’s clear that there isn’t any thought about “saving him” for any particular game. He gets rotated in and rotated out like Coventry, Bakinson and Camara around him.8 -
Warnock not having the greatest of starts to life in Aberdeen - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68431921
I’m certainly glad that whatever the debate was with the board, they decided to go with the ‘long’ term option in Jones.8 -
Think that may be true for the 3 after Saturday, but Northampton will look at us as a clear 3 point opportunity on their way to the play-offs. We've only won twice away, we're 19th (20th on merit). Their fans will be expecting that they go for it. Won't be an easy game, hopefully it'll be a memorable one for the right reasons.ShootersHillGuru said:
The next three teams will approach the games very differently to the last three. Their intentions will be to at least keep the point they started with and nick something. Our job to break them down which as we all know isn’t always easy. I think we’ll see something very different in tactics from Jones but not a lower intensity. I think Jones’s stock in trade is high tempo. I understand that he’s always bellowing “legs, legs, legs” at the players at Sparrows. I don’t think he likes sluggish.SE_7EVEN said:It will be interesting to see NJ,s approach to the next 4 games. With the latter 3 all below us. Will he continue the same high intensity approach. Will he view the opposition and move and change players. My pots half full 12 points in the bag....2 -
I suspect the fans of Bolton, Pompey and Derby were all expecting the same…Jonniesta said:
Think that may be true for the 3 after Saturday, but Northampton will look at us as a clear 3 point opportunity on their way to the play-offs. We've only won twice away, we're 19th (20th on merit). Their fans will be expecting that they go for it. Won't be an easy game, hopefully it'll be a memorable one for the right reasons.ShootersHillGuru said:
The next three teams will approach the games very differently to the last three. Their intentions will be to at least keep the point they started with and nick something. Our job to break them down which as we all know isn’t always easy. I think we’ll see something very different in tactics from Jones but not a lower intensity. I think Jones’s stock in trade is high tempo. I understand that he’s always bellowing “legs, legs, legs” at the players at Sparrows. I don’t think he likes sluggish.SE_7EVEN said:It will be interesting to see NJ,s approach to the next 4 games. With the latter 3 all below us. Will he continue the same high intensity approach. Will he view the opposition and move and change players. My pots half full 12 points in the bag....2 -
Lots of talk about the “achievements” of Jones but saving this seasons Charlton from relegation is worth note. I have no doubt that had we stayed with Michael Appleton we would be in the fourth tier next season. It’s still possible but already Jones has given us a fighting chance. No small achievement.7
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The fans of Northampton will look at us as an underachieving big club.Jonniesta said:
Think that may be true for the 3 after Saturday, but Northampton will look at us as a clear 3 point opportunity on their way to the play-offs. We've only won twice away, we're 19th (20th on merit). Their fans will be expecting that they go for it. Won't be an easy game, hopefully it'll be a memorable one for the right reasons.ShootersHillGuru said:
The next three teams will approach the games very differently to the last three. Their intentions will be to at least keep the point they started with and nick something. Our job to break them down which as we all know isn’t always easy. I think we’ll see something very different in tactics from Jones but not a lower intensity. I think Jones’s stock in trade is high tempo. I understand that he’s always bellowing “legs, legs, legs” at the players at Sparrows. I don’t think he likes sluggish.SE_7EVEN said:It will be interesting to see NJ,s approach to the next 4 games. With the latter 3 all below us. Will he continue the same high intensity approach. Will he view the opposition and move and change players. My pots half full 12 points in the bag....
Yes they won't fear us, but they will still us as a big scalp if they beat us, especially with a former Premier League manager in charge now.1 -
Not sure we are a big scalp anymore.killerandflash said:
The fans of Northampton will look at us as an underachieving big club.Jonniesta said:
Think that may be true for the 3 after Saturday, but Northampton will look at us as a clear 3 point opportunity on their way to the play-offs. We've only won twice away, we're 19th (20th on merit). Their fans will be expecting that they go for it. Won't be an easy game, hopefully it'll be a memorable one for the right reasons.ShootersHillGuru said:
The next three teams will approach the games very differently to the last three. Their intentions will be to at least keep the point they started with and nick something. Our job to break them down which as we all know isn’t always easy. I think we’ll see something very different in tactics from Jones but not a lower intensity. I think Jones’s stock in trade is high tempo. I understand that he’s always bellowing “legs, legs, legs” at the players at Sparrows. I don’t think he likes sluggish.SE_7EVEN said:It will be interesting to see NJ,s approach to the next 4 games. With the latter 3 all below us. Will he continue the same high intensity approach. Will he view the opposition and move and change players. My pots half full 12 points in the bag....
Yes they won't fear us, but they will still us as a big scalp if they beat us, especially with a former Premier League manager in charge now.1 -
I think we still have most of that aura, especially when you are comparing us with the other teams down there, the likes of Port Vale, Cheltenham, Cambridge, Fleetwood etc.ElfsborgAddick said:
Not sure we are a big scalp anymore.killerandflash said:
The fans of Northampton will look at us as an underachieving big club.Jonniesta said:
Think that may be true for the 3 after Saturday, but Northampton will look at us as a clear 3 point opportunity on their way to the play-offs. We've only won twice away, we're 19th (20th on merit). Their fans will be expecting that they go for it. Won't be an easy game, hopefully it'll be a memorable one for the right reasons.ShootersHillGuru said:
The next three teams will approach the games very differently to the last three. Their intentions will be to at least keep the point they started with and nick something. Our job to break them down which as we all know isn’t always easy. I think we’ll see something very different in tactics from Jones but not a lower intensity. I think Jones’s stock in trade is high tempo. I understand that he’s always bellowing “legs, legs, legs” at the players at Sparrows. I don’t think he likes sluggish.SE_7EVEN said:It will be interesting to see NJ,s approach to the next 4 games. With the latter 3 all below us. Will he continue the same high intensity approach. Will he view the opposition and move and change players. My pots half full 12 points in the bag....
Yes they won't fear us, but they will still us as a big scalp if they beat us, especially with a former Premier League manager in charge now.
The Northampton fans won't have been us as relegation strugglers to be easily seen off.2 -
I take your point, up in the Championship we'd not be considered a scalp. I do realise you're talking about third division football though.killerandflash said:
I think we still have most of that aura, especially when you are comparing us with the other teams down there, the likes of Port Vale, Cheltenham, Cambridge, Fleetwood etc.ElfsborgAddick said:
Not sure we are a big scalp anymore.killerandflash said:
The fans of Northampton will look at us as an underachieving big club.Jonniesta said:
Think that may be true for the 3 after Saturday, but Northampton will look at us as a clear 3 point opportunity on their way to the play-offs. We've only won twice away, we're 19th (20th on merit). Their fans will be expecting that they go for it. Won't be an easy game, hopefully it'll be a memorable one for the right reasons.ShootersHillGuru said:
The next three teams will approach the games very differently to the last three. Their intentions will be to at least keep the point they started with and nick something. Our job to break them down which as we all know isn’t always easy. I think we’ll see something very different in tactics from Jones but not a lower intensity. I think Jones’s stock in trade is high tempo. I understand that he’s always bellowing “legs, legs, legs” at the players at Sparrows. I don’t think he likes sluggish.SE_7EVEN said:It will be interesting to see NJ,s approach to the next 4 games. With the latter 3 all below us. Will he continue the same high intensity approach. Will he view the opposition and move and change players. My pots half full 12 points in the bag....
Yes they won't fear us, but they will still us as a big scalp if they beat us, especially with a former Premier League manager in charge now.
The Northampton fans won't have been us as relegation strugglers to be easily seen off.
Premier League days were fantastic, beating the big boys was such a buzz. 17 seasons ago now though.0 -
More draws than Tony Hart!
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Or IKEA?Mendonca In Asdas said:More draws than Tony Hart!0 -
Jones has to be a contender for Manager of the Month surely?! The way he has turned this team around is exceptional.5
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I thought so but he's not on the shortlistKiwiValley said:Jones has to be a contender for Manager of the Month surely?! The way he has turned this team around is exceptional.0 -
Think it works in calendar months and his February record on paper will look average and won't reflect the upturn in performances.KiwiValley said:Jones has to be a contender for Manager of the Month surely?! The way he has turned this team around is exceptional.3 -
Blow the Manager of the Month award.KiwiValley said:Jones has to be a contender for Manager of the Month surely?! The way he has turned this team around is exceptional.
I'm hearing strong rumours that it is intended to rename the Covered End as the Nathan Jones stand!2 - Sponsored links:
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I would have thought they'd look beyond the raw results - otherwise Portsmouth's manager would be winning most months.MartinCAFC said:
Think it works in calendar months and his February record on paper will look average and won't reflect the upturn in performances.KiwiValley said:Jones has to be a contender for Manager of the Month surely?! The way he has turned this team around is exceptional.0 -
Hard to argue that someone deserves MOTM based on 1 win!
Lincoln's manager easily deserves it. Unbeaten with 5 wins and a draw in February, after a similar poor run to us in December and January.4 -
Yes hopefully he wins it this month0
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There was a couple of minutes with NJ on 'football focus' today (about 33 minutes in) - don't think there was anything particularly newsworthy, but good to get a mention on the show again...
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Great interview with NJ on Football Focus today1
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Yes it was a very good interview and the bit where he said about him joining was due to the new set up at the club owners, management etc are in place that enable him to start a long term project. Wonder if the usual doomsayers on here saw the interview?1
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Finally feel optimistic with NJ in charge - nice to have a proper coach.
Just hope he's given the chance to prune the squad.
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We’ve had 11 games under Nathan Jones now so thought it’d be a good time to have a look at goals for and against records.
These numbers would look better if you don’t include the Reading defeat where he’d had barely three days to work with the players.Goals per games conceded before Jones: 1.53
Goals per games conceded since Jones: 1.18
Goals per game scored before Jones: 1.43
Goals per game scored since Jones: 1.36
(Goals per game conceded since Lincoln home: 1.10
Goals per game scored since Lincoln home: 1.50)4 -
Am quietly confident that Jones can bring in his own players and we can look to a minimum top six finish next season.He has got results out of players that Appleton and Holden could not, this has to be a good sign for the future.I imagine that he was given assurances before he signed the contract and he looks like a character that will not stand for backtracking at this level of the game.1
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Clubs at a crossroads. If the owners want to progress the club back to where it should be which I believe is The Championship or better still have aspirations of Premier League then this summer is the first step. I know everyone doesn’t think so but I think the squad we have is absolutely miles off so what happens this close season needs to make a significant mark. The alternative is to become an established third teir club and team. I don’t think getting promoted back to The Championship is doable in one season so although I’m expecting top eight I think getting the players we need is going to take three windows and genuine investment. I don’t see anything in between to be honest.1
