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Who will be the new Charlton coach? - p103. Nathan Jones confirmed
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Having read that very good and balanced article about NJ, it has put me even firmer in 'its a Yes from me camp'.
However we can't dilly-dally, let's get him in and let him finish off the transfer window with a few more players, that he wants!0 -
Think the important words there are "random twitter account" - wouldn't put much stock in it myself.Scoham said:Random Twitter account claiming Jones keen but wants his own signings before the window closes.4 -
your admiration is grudgingly (but gratefully) accepted lol .. however, IF the sainted Jones is appointed or should we beg Appleton, Garner or Adkins to return, anybody ! they will have my best wishes, cos anyone coming in will need all the help they can get whilst striving to get us out of this downslideRothko said:Got to admire Lincs willing to die on hill over this Harford thing, impressive1 -
If that's true and it happens, it really will show intent from the money menScoham said:Random Twitter account claiming Jones keen but wants his own signings before the window closes.2 -
forgot to add, I have met Mick H a few times, he is the proverbial tough diamond geezer as well as a GREAT managerRothko said:Got to admire Lincs willing to die on hill over this Harford thing, impressive
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Not surprising, he was here the season Harriott progressed from working under Jones in the u21s to the first team.Henry Irving said:
I suspect Mick Harford played a much bigger part than the serial loser though.12 -
Quite how that’s achievable with three days of the window left is unclear. Think I’ll treat that with a pinch of salt.Scoham said:Random Twitter account claiming Jones keen but wants his own signings before the window closes.5 -
He does not suffer any s***.Lincsaddick said:
forgot to add, I have met Mick H a few times, he is the proverbial tough diamond geezer as well as a GREAT managerRothko said:Got to admire Lincs willing to die on hill over this Harford thing, impressive1 -
Following on from @Henry Irving post that someone new is being interviewed are we to take it that it’s Warburton or has he already been seen and we’re on to somebody else ?1
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If there’s a chance to get Nathan Jones in we’ve gotta go for it.5
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Why are the last five months the most important? If Jones hadn’t given them the platform to achieve promotion in the initial months of the season then Harford wouldn’t have had the opportunity to finish the job off. Serial loser? OMG.Lincsaddick said:
two main points .. Harford was the manager for the important five months during which Luton were promoted from L1, secondly he was with the club, and I believe he still is for far longer than 5 months .. and on TWO occasions he has taken over Luton's management following Jones's desertion of the club. Harford was there during Luton's 'success' in the Championship.Scoham said:
Nathan Jones managed them for 170 games between January 2016 and January 2019. He got them promoted from L2 in that time and managed the first half of their L1 winning season.Lincsaddick said:
the 'remarkable achievements' at Luton were, as I have opined before, more down to Mick Harford than Jones .. as I have also said before, Jones is NOT NOT NOT the manager we need, he is at best a fair to middling player coachfollett said:A team 18th in League One getting Nathan Jones is really impressive. It's just over a year ago a pretty well run Premier League club opted for him as manager. Although it didn't work out, his achievements at Luton are remarkable and I really hope if we give him time, he could do the same here.
Mick Harford managed them for 21 games between January 2019 and May 2019 (when they won L1).
Nathan Jones then came back in 2020, kept them up in the Championship, then finished 12th and improved again when they finished 6th and lost in the playoffs. He managed them for another 133 games.
Wanted to look this up to understand your point. In the 5 months Harford was there how could he have had a greater influence than the 300+ games Jones was there, in which they improved every season?
Jones is a serial loser more than a serial winner and is not to be trusted .. yes he got Luton out of L2, BUT what has he achieved since as a solo act ?
ANYWAY, we all have our opinions about good/bad managers, I say once more, I wouldn't touch Nathan Jones with a bargepole when it comes to managing CAFC
He wouldn’t be my first choice, Duff would, but then again to you he’d be a serial loser I suppose. Every manager has failed somewhere, it comes with the territory.4 -
Despite my queries about how successful he truly has been in the past, if it is Jones he will quickly win me over.
A couple of good results and his "passion" will do it as I am honest enough to admit I am shallow, the reason I go to football is to be over emotional, both in the good & bad times.
It's why I try to avoid the match threads or post threads too soon after the game as I probably won't agree with my own posts 12 hours later.13 -
A worthwhile read. Sounds similar to Powell when he first joined. Slowly implemented his ideas mid-season and then overhauled the squad and playing style ahead of the new season. A bit of patience may be required.Athletico Charlton said:Sounds flexible in the formations he plays too.2 -
I’m sure he’s got plenty of contacts at clubs, he might know a couple of players looking to move that he’s worked with before and is keen onShootersHillGuru said:
Quite how that’s achievable with three days of the window left is unclear. Think I’ll treat that with a pinch of salt.Scoham said:Random Twitter account claiming Jones keen but wants his own signings before the window closes.1 -
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It’s a step up from MA. That’s the important thing.1
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I hope we are quite advanced with any of the major candidates that have been mentioned as Huddersfield have just sacked Darren Moore, that could throw a spanner in the works if it's Jones,Duff,Eustace being interviewed by us.5
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Long old read that. Still think that will end in tearsAthletico Charlton said:1 -
To use his own analogy..what a cock...charmin' chap...🙄ButtleJR said:0 -
Would've taken Moore instead of Appleton, but thought the general consensus was that he'd not come down to our level?MarcusH26 said:I hope we are quite advanced with any of the major candidates that have been mentioned as Huddersfield have just sacked Darren Moore, that could throw a spanner in the works if it's Jones,Duff,Eustace being interviewed by us.3 - Sponsored links:
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He who must not be named (from the other forum) appears to be saying Jones is a done deal4
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NabySarr said:He who must not be named (from the other forum) appears to be saying Jones is a done deal
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Phil did really well with us. I was sad to see him go.,Henry Irving said:I believe that when Jones took over at Stoke he brought in Phil Chapple, who had been head of recruitment under Chris Powell, in a similar role. Also played a few games for us.
Not sure where Phil is now, he was at Brighton, but for those who want "understands the club" he does in spades.
How that would work with Andy Scott I don't know. No, that's not true, I think it wouldn't work but Scott and Rodwell did talk about expanding the recruitment/scouting team.12 -
What I took from the article was that where NJ was left to get on with things, as the main man, he has done well. When there were other forces at work, possibly working against NJ's ethos, he hasn't. No real surprise!Redmidland said:Having read that very good and balanced article about NJ, it has put me even firmer in 'its a Yes from me camp'.
However we can't dilly-dally, let's get him in and let him finish off the transfer window with a few more players, that he wants!
What concerns me (for whoever we get in) is for the new man to have to work against an SMT who haven't demonstrated a particularly great degree of expertise in what they have achieved so far, as well as lift the team to a higher performance and achievement level.
My intuition suggests that the SMT are the type that want to call the shots and take the credit for what goes well and direct the blame towards others for what doesn't, even if their minions are following their instructions to the letter.
I think there is far too much power and too little accountability contained in the DoF role, which causes a huge imbalance for the poor sod coaching on the grass. I can understand why the DoF role may provide more stability over a period of time, but when things go wrong, the DoF really should be first out of the door.6 -
Had my reservations about Jones for reasons that I can’t really understand. Just do. Having said that there are so many of you more knowledgeable than I that seem enthused so on that basis I’m in. I’ll stick my neck out now and say I don’t think it’s going to be him.NabySarr said:He who must not be named (from the other forum) appears to be saying Jones is a done deal0 -
That photo would be a good "Where are they now"Henry Irving said:2 -
Darren Moore at the back post in the last minute anyone? Wanted him in the summer5
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Alexa seems to think Michael Appleton is set to be replaced by none other than Michael Appleton!3
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But what makes you so sure Jones will? I am not having a Fleming love in but I was happy with Saturday and what if he gets a result next week? Even if it is short term, do we throw that away for something that may go right or wrong. If it doesn't work with Fleming we still have time. Maybe one or two games less but we have an extra life as it were.thenewbie said:
And if we give Fleming a chance but he doesn't win any games, whoever we then get in has an even more difficult job and less time to rectify it in. So... no.MuttleyCAFC said:I am not against appointing him but I would like us to give Fleming a chance first. A two defeats (and some wins) or we bring somebody in chance over February. I think that is the common sense approach. I know some people don't share it but if Jones came in and failed that would fcuk us up. Somebody like him should be the lasp gasp option.
Fleming is caretaker and only the caretaker, his only priority right now is to try and stop the rot and provide the basics of continuity.
He's spent a career as assistant to the main coach, he's good at it, he seems quite content.
He is a decent guy from what I've seen but nowhere near the full time job.0 -
I don't think this squad has the 'steeliness' to play Mooreball personally, am coming round to the idea of Jones although my personal preference would be Neilsam3110 said:Darren Moore at the back post in the last minute anyone? Wanted him in the summer0
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