Parallel universe he's living in. Starting to regret going to Lincoln on Sat. Hope the anticipated bad weather is a leveller, but judging by Tuesday's showing will need a bloody miracle.
I'm hoping it's rained off so I can spend the afternoon in Lincoln's fine pubs and I won't have to watch us. Potentially a properly awful awayday.
Yeah....he's not for me. Also...one has to question his assistants; they should have talked him out of that mental line up the other night.
We need a manager that keeps it simple but also keeps it logical. Get a bit of creativity into the side (T Campbell) and don't try to shoehorn three central strikers in, hoping they'd suddenly morph into a Champions League front three, who don't need crosses.
Plus, sign a right winger/right midfielder, who can at least offer a bit of drive on that side. T. Campbell can handle the left wing.
Not sure why people think Warnock is a bad shout. He'd keep it simple, as per the above, plus take zero shit but also know the team needs a spark. He did it at QPR and brought the very best out of Adel Taraabt, who otherwise would have soon found himself down the divisions. Some managers have "got it" and some haven't. Warnock is in the former camp and Jones is in the latter.
Yeah....he's not for me. Also...one has to question his assistants; they should have talked him out of that mental line up the other night.
We need a manager that keeps it simple but also keeps it logical. Get a bit of creativity into the side (T Campbell) and don't try to shoehorn three central strikers in, hoping they'd suddenly morph into a Champions League front three, who don't need crosses.
Plus, sign a right winger/right midfielder, who can at least offer a bit of drive on that side. T. Campbell can handle the left wing.
Not sure why people think Warnock is a bad shout. He'd keep it simple, as per the above, plus take zero shit but also know the team needs a spark. He did it at QPR and brought the very best out of Adel Taraabt, who otherwise would have soon found himself down the divisions. Some managers have "got it" and some haven't. Warnock is in the former camp and Jones is in the latter.
Parallel universe he's living in. Starting to regret going to Lincoln on Sat. Hope the anticipated bad weather is a leveller, but judging by Tuesday's showing will need a bloody miracle.
I'm hoping it's rained off so I can spend the afternoon in Lincoln's fine pubs and I won't have to watch us. Potentially a properly awful awayday.
As much as we all need a morale boosting performance and three points, I think the quickest route for Jones to be relieved of his duties, which incidentally I don’t think will happen, would be for a drubbing v Lincoln and the next two games.
Yeah....he's not for me. Also...one has to question his assistants; they should have talked him out of that mental line up the other night.
We need a manager that keeps it simple but also keeps it logical. Get a bit of creativity into the side (T Campbell) and don't try to shoehorn three central strikers in, hoping they'd suddenly morph into a Champions League front three, who don't need crosses.
Plus, sign a right winger/right midfielder, who can at least offer a bit of drive on that side. T. Campbell can handle the left wing.
Not sure why people think Warnock is a bad shout. He'd keep it simple, as per the above, plus take zero shit but also know the team needs a spark. He did it at QPR and brought the very best out of Adel Taraabt, who otherwise would have soon found himself down the divisions. Some managers have "got it" and some haven't. Warnock is in the former camp and Jones is in the latter.
Unless we drop down to the bottom 4, Warnock isn’t what we need.
At this stage of his career he is only interested in short term projects. We complain about always changing managers, so why appoint one that is only interested in a 6 months stint.
Warnock is director of football at Torquay which is near where he lives, I doubt he will manage again but if he does it will be there
Jones was fired after a series of poor performances, including losing seven of his first eight Premier League games. He was also criticized for making excuses and failing to win over the fans. After a 3-0 loss to Brentford, Jones said he had compromised his management style due to fan pressure
I just cant get my head around how positive I felt with the pre-season training camp, and I thought we had a team that would have a positive style and player buy in. To now where we seem directionless, dysfunctional, unprepared, moribund and woefully short of spirit. He needs to make some kind of drastic improvement, I just cant see that he's got it in him.
Parallel universe he's living in. Starting to regret going to Lincoln on Sat. Hope the anticipated bad weather is a leveller, but judging by Tuesday's showing will need a bloody miracle.
Hoping they prove everyone wrong and pull something out of the bag, Nathan needs to stay humble, and not give it to the fans in his interviews afterwards if we do win.
Winning cup games against lower league teams is not comparable.
That is the press conference of a desperate man.
I think it sounds so much worse when you look at it as the last 11 games, out of an available 33 points, we have picked up 9 points. Absolutely horrendous return.
The cup games have really allowed how bad the form has been to go slightly under the radar imo.
The difference with John Beck who took Cambridge United from League 2, to being 90 minutes away from the new Premier League was he played the Young Dion Dublin with John Taylor ( preferred over Steve Claridge in most games who came on as Sub*) he played a 'winger' to feed the two big men, Dublin and Taylor. Lee Philpott was one of the wingers used on this Journey.
Those of you that were at Upton park(our temporary home) when Cambridge won 2-1 in a Championship/division 2 game were probably as discombobulated as the CAFC coaching staff, fans and players who saw the midfield by-passed with the ball in the air with Gillesphey type long balls from the back sometimes finding touch but which moved Cambridge 50 yards up the pitch; Think Rugby with a decent fly half.
John Beck like Nathan Jones was a few sandwiches short of a picnic BUT Beck knew just like anyone with an inkling about football that you can play two central forwards/central strikers with at least one wide forward; but playing 3 slow central striker like Jones has on two occasions with both Leaburn and Godden drifting wide to accommodate this insane line up but with zero success and Ahadme trying his best to get flick ons in the middle.
The difference now is pitches like the Valley, are created to play decent passing football on the deck; with hopefully some quality crosses from wide forwards or wing backs in advanced positions.
This only happens at times when CAFC are playing Cup ties against League 2 or U21'S in cup football when Small made two excellent crosses for Miles who was in the middle to bury the headers.
The Charlton Athletic journey into mediocrity continues and the only light at the end of the tunnel is a train. 90xx for you spotters.
Winning cup games against lower league teams is not comparable.
That is the press conference of a desperate man.
I think it sounds so much worse when you look at it as the last 11 games, out of an available 33 points, we have picked up 9 points. Absolutely horrendous return.
The cup games have really allowed how bad the form has been to go slightly under the radar imo.
For all our sakes, a reporter, any reporter, needs to bite the bullet and ask him a simple question, "Nathan, are you at all concerned about the lack of creativity in the team". If he's not concerned, then he has to go, because no one wants to watch that boring crap week after week. If he admits that it's a problem, then I think he should be given January to try to rectify it.
Did anyone listen to his interview on with Louis Mendez after the game on Tuesday night?
His lengthy pause for a few seconds when asked about why Charlton fans are edgy and seeing their side in mid table and then his dour response of the fans are entitled to their opinions
For all our sakes, a reporter, any reporter, needs to bite the bullet and ask him a simple question, "Nathan, are you at all concerned about the lack of creativity in the team". If he's not concerned, then he has to go, because no one wants to watch that boring crap week after week. If he admits that it's a problem, then I think he should be given January to try to rectify it.
I don't think he would answer it yes, even if he thought it true.
For all our sakes, a reporter, any reporter, needs to bite the bullet and ask him a simple question, "Nathan, are you at all concerned about the lack of creativity in the team". If he's not concerned, then he has to go, because no one wants to watch that boring crap week after week. If he admits that it's a problem, then I think he should be given January to try to rectify it.
I don't think he would answer it yes, even if he thought it true.
Just like telling your side they're shit when they're just maxing out what little ability they have won't help. He's not going to slander his side in the press really is he?
Everyone wanting him to say it publicly... not gonna happen.
Very concerning comments really. The fact that he thinks that despite us having a dodgy keeper, no creativity, no width and no pace that we're close to being a good side is delusional. We can only pray that he's just trying to keep team morale up by not slaughtering them in the media because if he does actually think that then we're fucked
Also he goes on about the cup wins as though he can't quite get his head around why we win those but don't win in the league. Perhaps it's because we played a non-league team, Walsall (who rested players), Bromley and Chelsea's youth team. The one decent side we've played in a cup this season beat us.
It looks like the Birmingham victory at home was the outlier but Nathan Jones tactics are making the squad look worse that they are. It did rely on certain players staying fit but I went for 7th to 10th as unless we bought a couple of strong players ready to hit the ground running in January I could never see cafc being able to sustain any sort of promotion push. Now even that looked optimistic.
Other than Birmingham and Bolton most of the League matches have been turgid and a coin flick if Charlton garnered any points from the games.
I have seen teams that look rubbish turn it around. He has to find a way of doing it as we are well enough into the season to see he isn't doing it yet and with that comes additional pressure. What I would advise all those wanting somebody to ask Jones more pointed questions, watch our performances, they will tell you a lot more than words.
The difference with John Beck who took Cambridge United from League 2, to being 90 minutes away from the new Premier League was he played the Young Dion Dublin with John Taylor ( preferred over Steve Claridge in most games who came on as Sub*) he played a 'winger' to feed the two big men, Dublin and Taylor. Lee Philpott was one of the wingers used on this Journey.
Those of you that were at Upton park(our temporary home) when Cambridge won 2-1 in a Championship/division 2 game were probably as discombobulated as the CAFC coaching staff, fans and players who saw the midfield by-passed with the ball in the air with Gillesphey type long balls from the back sometimes finding touch but which moved Cambridge 50 yards up the pitch; Think Rugby with a decent fly half.
John Beck like Nathan Jones was a few sandwiches short of a picnic BUT Beck knew just like anyone with an inkling about football that you can play two central forwards/central strikers with at least one wide forward; but playing 3 slow central striker like Jones has on two occasions with both Leaburn and Godden drifting wide to accommodate this insane line up but with zero success and Ahadme trying his best to get flick ons in the middle.
The difference now is pitches like the Valley, are created to play decent passing football on the deck; with hopefully some quality crosses from wide forwards or wing backs in advanced positions.
This only happens at times when CAFC are playing Cup ties against League 2 or U21'S in cup football when Small made two excellent crosses for Miles who was in the middle to bury the headers.
The Charlton Athletic journey into mediocrity continues and the only light at the end of the tunnel is a train. 90xx for you spotters.
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We need a manager that keeps it simple but also keeps it logical. Get a bit of creativity into the side (T Campbell) and don't try to shoehorn three central strikers in, hoping they'd suddenly morph into a Champions League front three, who don't need crosses.
Plus, sign a right winger/right midfielder, who can at least offer a bit of drive on that side. T. Campbell can handle the left wing.
Not sure why people think Warnock is a bad shout. He'd keep it simple, as per the above, plus take zero shit but also know the team needs a spark. He did it at QPR and brought the very best out of Adel Taraabt, who otherwise would have soon found himself down the divisions. Some managers have "got it" and some haven't. Warnock is in the former camp and Jones is in the latter.
We’ve been very consistent at being dull long ball merchants all season.
Winning cup games against lower league teams is not comparable.
That is the press conference of a desperate man.
A bit of humility goes a long way.
The cup games have really allowed how bad the form has been to go slightly under the radar imo.
The difference with John Beck who took Cambridge United from League 2, to being 90 minutes away from the new Premier League was he played the Young Dion Dublin with John Taylor ( preferred over Steve Claridge in most games who came on as Sub*) he played a 'winger' to feed the two big men, Dublin and Taylor.
Lee Philpott was one of the wingers used on this Journey.
Those of you that were at Upton park(our temporary home) when Cambridge won 2-1 in a Championship/division 2 game were probably as discombobulated as the CAFC coaching staff, fans and players who saw the midfield by-passed with the ball in the air with Gillesphey type long balls from the back sometimes finding touch but which moved Cambridge 50 yards up the pitch; Think Rugby with a decent fly half.
John Beck like Nathan Jones was a few sandwiches short of a picnic BUT Beck knew just like anyone with an inkling about football that you can play two central forwards/central strikers with at least one wide forward; but playing 3 slow central striker like Jones has on two occasions with both Leaburn and Godden drifting wide to accommodate this insane line up but with zero success and Ahadme trying his best to get flick ons in the middle.
The difference now is pitches like the Valley, are created to play decent passing football on the deck; with hopefully some quality crosses from wide forwards or wing backs in advanced positions.
This only happens at times when CAFC are playing Cup ties against League 2 or U21'S in cup football when Small made two excellent crosses for Miles who was in the middle to bury the headers.
The Charlton Athletic journey into mediocrity continues and the only light at the end of the tunnel is a train.
90xx for you spotters.
*Only 2 subs allowed around 1990.
If he's not concerned, then he has to go, because no one wants to watch that boring crap week after week.
If he admits that it's a problem, then I think he should be given January to try to rectify it.
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https://www.charltonlive.co.uk/2024/12/05/crowd-turns-on-jones-as-charlton-limp-to-defeat-against-crawley-lincoln-next-big-match-preview/
Everyone wanting him to say it publicly... not gonna happen.
Also he goes on about the cup wins as though he can't quite get his head around why we win those but don't win in the league. Perhaps it's because we played a non-league team, Walsall (who rested players), Bromley and Chelsea's youth team. The one decent side we've played in a cup this season beat us.
Other than Birmingham and Bolton most of the League matches have been turgid and a coin flick if Charlton garnered any points from the games.