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  • PopIcon
    PopIcon Posts: 5,970
    Think Dobson was an ok player who looked better because he was in a shit team

    Doesn't it normally work that ok players look better in a good side ?

    Danny Green or Waggy at CAFC and in the Premier, 
    Phil Neville springs to mind at United.
    Simon Francis!
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    PopIcon said:
    Think Dobson was an ok player who looked better because he was in a shit team

    Doesn't it normally work that ok players look better in a good side ?

    Danny Green or Waggy at CAFC and in the Premier, 
    Phil Neville springs to mind at United.
    Simon Francis!

    Simon Francis had the potential to be a good attacking full back even when he was at CAFC ( I said it back then and had people laugh in my face) but it took the coaching skills of Eddie Howe to bring it out after he totally lost confidence.
    Howe even turned Francis into a CB later which I was surprised about !

    You can bomb out at CAFC but still make it somewhere else with the right set up and restored belief.

  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,309
    PopIcon said:
    Think Dobson was an ok player who looked better because he was in a shit team

    Doesn't it normally work that ok players look better in a good side ?

    Danny Green or Waggy at CAFC and in the Premier, 
    Phil Neville springs to mind at United.
    Simon Francis!

    Simon Francis had the potential to be a good attacking full back even when he was at CAFC ( I said it back then and had people laugh in my face) but it took the coaching skills of Eddie Howe to bring it out after he totally lost confidence.
    Howe even turned Francis into a CB later which I was surprised about !

    You can bomb out at CAFC but still make it somewhere else with the right set up and restored belief.

    Most players do once they leave us 
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,284
    JamesSeed said:
    Struggling to keep up with ongoing transfer developments, but hoped to catch up by going to the Wimbledon match. 
    I didn’t expect us to be outplayed (by and large) by a League 2 side, and left feeling ver deflated. 
    Are we set for another year of disappointment, or do we feel that the new players need time to settle in?
    It felt like we lacked quality, and there’s only ten days left to sort things out.
    I think we have quality in Berry, Docherty and Godden but it’s just they aren’t quite up to speed yet. Once they’ve had the full pre-season we will hopefully start to see it once the proper games start 
  • cafc-4-life
    cafc-4-life Posts: 1,305
    I forgot my password but now I'm back....

    In regards to the Dobbo and Coventry argument. One was wanted by Championship sides in January but we won his signature. The other was only wanted by Wrexham and a random Hungarian side in January and the summer.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    edited July 2024
    I forgot my password but now I'm back....

    In regards to the Dobbo and Coventry argument. One was wanted by Championship sides in January but we won his signature. The other was only wanted by Wrexham and a random Hungarian side in January and the summer.

    Correct but ?

    CAFC P0TY 21/22 winner Dobson
    CAFC POTY22/23 runner up Dobson 
    CAFC POTY 23/24 runner up Dobson 

    The most consistent player we have had for years and obviously the voters agreed.

    We now move on as George has done and we need all our midfielders to step up to the plate for CAFC.
    What these players do for CAFC is what's counts now.
    Not what potential or how they played for other clubs.

    Wigan is the first of 46 matches so we need to be on it from game one not friendlies when the last ref didn't even have his yellow cards with him.
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,331
    I forgot my password but now I'm back....

    In regards to the Dobbo and Coventry argument. One was wanted by Championship sides in January but we won his signature. The other was only wanted by Wrexham and a random Hungarian side in January and the summer.

    Correct but ?

    CAFC P0TY 21/22 winner Dobson
    CAFC POTY22/23 runner up Dobson 
    CAFC POTY 23/24 runner up Dobson 

    The most consistent player we have had for years and obviously the voters agreed.

    We now move on as George has done and we need all our midfielders to step up to the plate for CAFC.
    What these players do for CAFC is what's counts now.
    Not what potential or how they played for other clubs.

    Wigan is the first of 46 matches so we need to be on it from game one not friendlies when the last ref didn't even have his yellow cards with him.
    We've had plenty of very consistent players over the last few years.  Most of them haven't been any good though. 
  • To_Be_Franck
    To_Be_Franck Posts: 1,095
    Dobson was an average league one player made out by a number of fans as a premiership player sorry he was miles away from even championship player .. how many reckless tackles on the edge of our box did he make , how many passes went a stray .again in dangerous positions .. yes he had his positives but fact that no one was rushing to sign him says how “ football “ saw him …. Coventry completely diff player far more skilful and better passer of the ball , he don’t rush in or makes last ditch tackles  because he reads a game better and so intercepts long before he needs to tackle or lunge in ….. 
    Agree.  I put Dobson in the same bracket as Kishishev....nowhere near as good a footballer as Charlton fans believe, but adored because they ran around like lunatics chasing after their own lack of abilities, but interpreted as caring and hardworking 
  • charente addick
    charente addick Posts: 3,808
    Dobson was an average league one player made out by a number of fans as a premiership player sorry he was miles away from even championship player .. how many reckless tackles on the edge of our box did he make , how many passes went a stray .again in dangerous positions .. yes he had his positives but fact that no one was rushing to sign him says how “ football “ saw him …. Coventry completely diff player far more skilful and better passer of the ball , he don’t rush in or makes last ditch tackles  because he reads a game better and so intercepts long before he needs to tackle or lunge in ….. 
    Agree.  I put Dobson in the same bracket as Kishishev....nowhere near as good a footballer as Charlton fans believe, but adored because they ran around like lunatics chasing after their own lack of abilities, but interpreted as caring and hardworking 
    What?! Kishishev was a great footballer.
  • To_Be_Franck
    To_Be_Franck Posts: 1,095
    edited July 2024
    I forgot my password but now I'm back....

    In regards to the Dobbo and Coventry argument. One was wanted by Championship sides in January but we won his signature. The other was only wanted by Wrexham and a random Hungarian side in January and the summer.

    Correct but ?

    CAFC P0TY 21/22 winner Dobson
    CAFC POTY22/23 runner up Dobson 
    CAFC POTY 23/24 runner up Dobson 

    The most consistent player we have had for years and obviously the voters agreed.

    We now move on as George has done and we need all our midfielders to step up to the plate for CAFC.
    What these players do for CAFC is what's counts now.
    Not what potential or how they played for other clubs.

    Wigan is the first of 46 matches so we need to be on it from game one not friendlies when the last ref didn't even have his yellow cards with him.
    Winner 
    Runner up 
    Runner up.

    Consistent maybe, but the facts are there in front of us...downward trajectory.  
    Next 2 seasons would be also ran and then  non Runner after that.
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  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    I realise there are no rumours but this definitely isn’t the Dobson, Coventry, Begovic discussions thread. 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,030
    Pompey have made Anthony Scully available for transfer - would be a gamble with his injury record as he only featured 9 times for Pompey last season , but a player I know was heavily mentioned when he was at Lincoln. 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,252
    Made less appearances than Aneke over the last 2 seasons combined and if he leaves will be on his third club in 3 years. His time at Lincoln was the exception in an otherwise nothing career, no thanks
  • To_Be_Franck
    To_Be_Franck Posts: 1,095
    Dobson was an average league one player made out by a number of fans as a premiership player sorry he was miles away from even championship player .. how many reckless tackles on the edge of our box did he make , how many passes went a stray .again in dangerous positions .. yes he had his positives but fact that no one was rushing to sign him says how “ football “ saw him …. Coventry completely diff player far more skilful and better passer of the ball , he don’t rush in or makes last ditch tackles  because he reads a game better and so intercepts long before he needs to tackle or lunge in ….. 
    Agree.  I put Dobson in the same bracket as Kishishev....nowhere near as good a footballer as Charlton fans believe, but adored because they ran around like lunatics chasing after their own lack of abilities, but interpreted as caring and hardworking 
    What?! Kishishev was a great footballer.
    He wasn't. He was a headless chicken, a hard worker and a nice bloke.  
    Doesn't make him a great footballer.

    He was very effective in the defensive midfield, man to man marking, harass and force mistake role...but that was down to his own chaos.   
  • up_the_valley
    up_the_valley Posts: 4,186
    sam3110 said:
    Made less appearances than Aneke over the last 2 seasons combined and if he leaves will be on his third club in 3 years. His time at Lincoln was the exception in an otherwise nothing career, no thanks
    I take that as "no" then?
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,030
    sam3110 said:
    Made less appearances than Aneke over the last 2 seasons combined and if he leaves will be on his third club in 3 years. His time at Lincoln was the exception in an otherwise nothing career, no thanks

    Yeah I wasn't really mentioning him as a target more someone that's come up in the past and being available again , doesn't fit the NJ shape or style really 
  • To_Be_Franck
    To_Be_Franck Posts: 1,095
    Chizz said:
    Dobson was an average league one player made out by a number of fans as a premiership player sorry he was miles away from even championship player .. how many reckless tackles on the edge of our box did he make , how many passes went a stray .again in dangerous positions .. yes he had his positives but fact that no one was rushing to sign him says how “ football “ saw him …. Coventry completely diff player far more skilful and better passer of the ball , he don’t rush in or makes last ditch tackles  because he reads a game better and so intercepts long before he needs to tackle or lunge in ….. 
    Agree.  I put Dobson in the same bracket as Kishishev....nowhere near as good a footballer as Charlton fans believe, but adored because they ran around like lunatics chasing after their own lack of abilities, but interpreted as caring and hardworking 
    What?! Kishishev was a great footballer.
    Radostin Kishishev would walk into the current team and improve it beyond belief.  And he's 50.
    Probably. But we're talking about someone that blagged it in the prem vs where we are now with some players blagging it in league  one.

    Different levels of abilities certainly, but blagging none the less.  The energy and passion hides imperfections of ability in typical fan favourites 
  • To_Be_Franck
    To_Be_Franck Posts: 1,095
    I realise there are no rumours but this definitely isn’t the Dobson, Coventry, Begovic discussions thread. 
    You forgot Kishishev 
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,284
    sam3110 said:
    Made less appearances than Aneke over the last 2 seasons combined and if he leaves will be on his third club in 3 years. His time at Lincoln was the exception in an otherwise nothing career, no thanks
    He’s also more of a winger so wouldn’t really fit
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  • up_the_valley
    up_the_valley Posts: 4,186
    sam3110 said:
    Made less appearances than Aneke over the last 2 seasons combined and if he leaves will be on his third club in 3 years. His time at Lincoln was the exception in an otherwise nothing career, no thanks
    I take it that's a "no" then?
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,499
    sam3110 said:
    Made less appearances than Aneke over the last 2 seasons combined and if he leaves will be on his third club in 3 years. His time at Lincoln was the exception in an otherwise nothing career, no thanks
    I take it that's a "no" then?
    Sort of sounds that way...🤔
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,374
    New rumours? No, debating whether a former player from 20 years ago was any good.
  • Also, for the record...I will always love Kishishev (despite his limitations as a premiership footballer) as my knowing of his existence got me laid by a fit Bulgarian tourist I got chatting to in Gable by bank station
    It's clear then  your brains are in your cock.
    Ask Curbs how valuable Kish was to his side
  • TeeC
    TeeC Posts: 311
    Scoham said:
    New rumours? No, debating whether a former player from 20 years ago was any good.
    He was shite - end of debate 
  • Starinnaddick
    Starinnaddick Posts: 4,342
    Dobson was an average league one player made out by a number of fans as a premiership player sorry he was miles away from even championship player .. how many reckless tackles on the edge of our box did he make , how many passes went a stray .again in dangerous positions .. yes he had his positives but fact that no one was rushing to sign him says how “ football “ saw him …. Coventry completely diff player far more skilful and better passer of the ball , he don’t rush in or makes last ditch tackles  because he reads a game better and so intercepts long before he needs to tackle or lunge in ….. 
    Agree.  I put Dobson in the same bracket as Kishishev....nowhere near as good a footballer as Charlton fans believe, but adored because they ran around like lunatics chasing after their own lack of abilities, but interpreted as caring and hardworking 
    What?! Kishishev was a great footballer.
    He wasn't. He was a headless chicken, a hard worker and a nice bloke.  
    Doesn't make him a great footballer.

    He was very effective in the defensive midfield, man to man marking, harass and force mistake role...but that was down to his own chaos.   
    You obviously didn't see Kishishev play for Brighton at the Valley. 
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,879
    Also, for the record...I will always love Kishishev (despite his limitations as a premiership footballer) as my knowing of his existence got me laid by a fit Bulgarian tourist I got chatting to in Gable by bank station
    Mods. I nominate this post for a promote
  • Also, for the record...I will always love Kishishev (despite his limitations as a premiership footballer) as my knowing of his existence got me laid by a fit Bulgarian tourist I got chatting to in Gable by bank station
    Mods. I nominate this post for a promote
    Seconded!
  • Dobson was an average league one player made out by a number of fans as a premiership player sorry he was miles away from even championship player .. how many reckless tackles on the edge of our box did he make , how many passes went a stray .again in dangerous positions .. yes he had his positives but fact that no one was rushing to sign him says how “ football “ saw him …. Coventry completely diff player far more skilful and better passer of the ball , he don’t rush in or makes last ditch tackles  because he reads a game better and so intercepts long before he needs to tackle or lunge in ….. 
    Agree.  I put Dobson in the same bracket as Kishishev....nowhere near as good a footballer as Charlton fans believe, but adored because they ran around like lunatics chasing after their own lack of abilities, but interpreted as caring and hardworking 
    What?! Kishishev was a great footballer.
    He wasn't. He was a headless chicken, a hard worker and a nice bloke.  
    Doesn't make him a great footballer.

    He was very effective in the defensive midfield, man to man marking, harass and force mistake role...but that was down to his own chaos.   
    Are you for real? I think you've been watching so much shit at Charlton since we got relegated from the premier league,that you've forgotten what a good footballer is. Even a few years after he left us and he was playing for Brighton in the championship.he pissed all over our Midfield in a 4-0 win.  20 times the player Dobson is. 
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