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  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,313
    Scott Fraser has known his future at the Valley was over at least 8 months ago. Has has had that amount of time to engineer a move, but barely got off the bench for Hearts, so didnt really play or train for a move. 

    I'd tell him he can train with kids until his contract is up, and let it sink in how desirable a 30yo unfit, luxury midfielder is in a years time.

    I'd rather pay to undermine these hostage-takers rather than subsidise their dream move.
    So you’re proposing to “punish” Fraser for what misdemeanour exactly ? 
    DFTT
    I try think a troll is someone who unfairly attacks another poster on social media. 

    Please take a look in the mirror Ben.

  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,145
    Fraser shit left in limbo 
    Alfie May decent had buyers 
    it’s football one wanted to stay the manager wanted neither 

    footballers have limited time to earn and unbelievably like in real life they pay tax on their wages, they have a cost of living , mortgages and rent aren’t free and some have family’s to help fund , the wages some of these fellas are on whilst more than decent will disappear like a puff of smoke by the time they are out of the game for a few years , so they have to make hay while the sun shines .
    i know I would , so realistically no one is walking away from whatever over paid contract our club put in front of them .

    just pay up Charlton , we made the bad trade cut our losses and move on , it’s not rocket science .
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,374
    My guess is it’s more the club holding up things by trying to get the best possible deal.

    I expect he won’t leave permanently as no club in Scotland will pay him anywhere near what we are.

    Therefore it’ll be a loan and the club will be trying to negotiate the highest %. If we only have offers of say 10-30% we might be holding off hoping a club will get desperate for a signing and increase that.

    I don’t see us paying him off as it’ll be better to loan him out, even if the other club only pays a tiny % of his wages. 

    Maybe it’ll be reassessed in January when he’ll only have 6 months to go and might have clubs talking to him about a permanent deal.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    Charlton transfer rumour:
    Fraser will go to a Scottish Championship side and CAFC will pay 60% of his wage.
  • Pavoren007
    Pavoren007 Posts: 2,518
    Any chance of a signing reveal at the Valley this afternoon? Begovic or the young Jamaican player? Always like this type of approach particularly for the youngsters in the crowd. 
  • Any chance of a signing reveal at the Valley this afternoon? Begovic or the young Jamaican player? Always like this type of approach particularly for the youngsters in the crowd. 
    No chance, sorry.
  • FAVADDICK
    FAVADDICK Posts: 584
    Surely Dixons visa must been done by now 
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,284
    FAVADDICK said:
    Surely Dixons visa must been done by now 
    Relying on the UK Home Office to process it, so if we’re lucky we might get him before the deadline at the end of the month 
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,313
    NabySarr said:
    FAVADDICK said:
    Surely Dixons visa must been done by now 
    Relying on the UK Home Office to process it, so if we’re lucky we might get him before the deadline at the end of the month 
    And that's if the Home Office doesn't get torched by EDL thugs. Oops, my tongue slipped. Mods! Arraign this fool
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,496
    Charlton transfer rumour:
    Fraser will go to a Scottish Championship side and CAFC will pay 60% of 

    load of rubbish no way would we agree to that 
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  • Charlton transfer rumour:
    Fraser will go to a Scottish Championship side and CAFC will pay 60% of 

    load of rubbish no way would we agree to that 
    The 60% part probably won’t be far off..
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    wmcf123 said:
    Chunes said:
    I never understand the vitriol towards a player for doing exactly what’s best for him and his family’s future security. Why should Fraser cut and run ? If I was him I’d do exactly what he’s doing. Sit it out and see if the club offer to pay a good percentage of his salary, pay him off or a combination of either. He’s a professional footballer selling his talent to the highest bidder. He’s not a Charlton fan, he’s an employee. It would be great for both parties if it gets satisfactorily resolved but if not I don’t see either club or player at fault. 
    I haven't seen any vitriol but I think I can help explain it... Here's my list of footballing priorities:

    1) Charlton
    ...
    (Then everything else)
    ...
    4247) Scott Fraser

    As you can see, he's quite low down. Yes, I can see the situation from his side, but should I care? Should I care that he make an extra 2-3k while doing nothing to earn it? Because I don't. I care a lot more that he goes and we bring in a quality player with his salary. Because that could be the difference between getting out of this league or staying in it. 

    Had he been a good player for us, I think I'd have a lot more sympathy. 
    I very much doubt that Scott Fraser or Scott Frasers wife and children care very much what your priorities are. 
    I’m sure they all prefer living in Greenwich to Dundee 
    Have you seen Dundee?  It's a beautiful city.  I know we all like to pretend the whole of Scotland is urban wasteland populated with angry alcoholics but just take a look.  I can well understand why someone would want to move from a 3 bed flat in touristy Greenwich to a very large house in Dundee with change left over.
  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,198
    NabySarr said:
    FAVADDICK said:
    Surely Dixons visa must been done by now 
    Relying on the UK Home Office to process it, so if we’re lucky we might get him before the deadline at the end of the month 
    Leuth said:
    NabySarr said:
    FAVADDICK said:
    Surely Dixons visa must been done by now 
    Relying on the UK Home Office to process it, so if we’re lucky we might get him before the deadline at the end of the month 
    And that's if the Home Office doesn't get torched by EDL thugs. Oops, my tongue slipped. Mods! Arraign this fool
    It's not down to the Home Office.  The FA is a designated organisation and issues a "Governing Body Endorsement" if the criteria are met. (This is a points based system but you can get a couple of players in who don't have the appropriate number of points.)

    See more here if you are interested. https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/policies/player-registration/points-based-system

    So we'll be waiting on the FA  - which is likely to take longer than the Home Office being burnt to the ground.
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,824
    wmcf123 said:
    Chunes said:
    I never understand the vitriol towards a player for doing exactly what’s best for him and his family’s future security. Why should Fraser cut and run ? If I was him I’d do exactly what he’s doing. Sit it out and see if the club offer to pay a good percentage of his salary, pay him off or a combination of either. He’s a professional footballer selling his talent to the highest bidder. He’s not a Charlton fan, he’s an employee. It would be great for both parties if it gets satisfactorily resolved but if not I don’t see either club or player at fault. 
    I haven't seen any vitriol but I think I can help explain it... Here's my list of footballing priorities:

    1) Charlton
    ...
    (Then everything else)
    ...
    4247) Scott Fraser

    As you can see, he's quite low down. Yes, I can see the situation from his side, but should I care? Should I care that he make an extra 2-3k while doing nothing to earn it? Because I don't. I care a lot more that he goes and we bring in a quality player with his salary. Because that could be the difference between getting out of this league or staying in it. 

    Had he been a good player for us, I think I'd have a lot more sympathy. 
    I very much doubt that Scott Fraser or Scott Frasers wife and children care very much what your priorities are. 
    I’m sure they all prefer living in Greenwich to Dundee 
    Have you seen Dundee?  It's a beautiful city.  I know we all like to pretend the whole of Scotland is urban wasteland populated with angry alcoholics but just take a look.  I can well understand why someone would want to move from a 3 bed flat in touristy Greenwich to a very large house in Dundee with change left over.
    I used to live very near Dundee.  Some of the surrounding area is lovely .  Dundee itself is not .  
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,350
    It’s the crocodiles that would put me off.
    Too much cake for me!
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    It is not Fraser's fault he was offered his contract. What I suspect is that he isn't trying hard enough to earn it. I may be wrong but if I am right, he deserves critisim.
  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,562
    Any chance we can move this chat on from discussing Scott Fraser every 5 minutes?
    But I paid for a 10 minute argument
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    wmcf123 said:
    wmcf123 said:
    Chunes said:
    I never understand the vitriol towards a player for doing exactly what’s best for him and his family’s future security. Why should Fraser cut and run ? If I was him I’d do exactly what he’s doing. Sit it out and see if the club offer to pay a good percentage of his salary, pay him off or a combination of either. He’s a professional footballer selling his talent to the highest bidder. He’s not a Charlton fan, he’s an employee. It would be great for both parties if it gets satisfactorily resolved but if not I don’t see either club or player at fault. 
    I haven't seen any vitriol but I think I can help explain it... Here's my list of footballing priorities:

    1) Charlton
    ...
    (Then everything else)
    ...
    4247) Scott Fraser

    As you can see, he's quite low down. Yes, I can see the situation from his side, but should I care? Should I care that he make an extra 2-3k while doing nothing to earn it? Because I don't. I care a lot more that he goes and we bring in a quality player with his salary. Because that could be the difference between getting out of this league or staying in it. 

    Had he been a good player for us, I think I'd have a lot more sympathy. 
    I very much doubt that Scott Fraser or Scott Frasers wife and children care very much what your priorities are. 
    I’m sure they all prefer living in Greenwich to Dundee 
    Have you seen Dundee?  It's a beautiful city.  I know we all like to pretend the whole of Scotland is urban wasteland populated with angry alcoholics but just take a look.  I can well understand why someone would want to move from a 3 bed flat in touristy Greenwich to a very large house in Dundee with change left over.
    I used to live very near Dundee.  Some of the surrounding area is lovely .  Dundee itself is not .  
    OK I bow to local knowledge - but I would ask how long it is since you lived there?  I think there has been a fair amount of regeneration...
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,622
    wmcf123 said:
    wmcf123 said:
    Chunes said:
    I never understand the vitriol towards a player for doing exactly what’s best for him and his family’s future security. Why should Fraser cut and run ? If I was him I’d do exactly what he’s doing. Sit it out and see if the club offer to pay a good percentage of his salary, pay him off or a combination of either. He’s a professional footballer selling his talent to the highest bidder. He’s not a Charlton fan, he’s an employee. It would be great for both parties if it gets satisfactorily resolved but if not I don’t see either club or player at fault. 
    I haven't seen any vitriol but I think I can help explain it... Here's my list of footballing priorities:

    1) Charlton
    ...
    (Then everything else)
    ...
    4247) Scott Fraser

    As you can see, he's quite low down. Yes, I can see the situation from his side, but should I care? Should I care that he make an extra 2-3k while doing nothing to earn it? Because I don't. I care a lot more that he goes and we bring in a quality player with his salary. Because that could be the difference between getting out of this league or staying in it. 

    Had he been a good player for us, I think I'd have a lot more sympathy. 
    I very much doubt that Scott Fraser or Scott Frasers wife and children care very much what your priorities are. 
    I’m sure they all prefer living in Greenwich to Dundee 
    Have you seen Dundee?  It's a beautiful city.  I know we all like to pretend the whole of Scotland is urban wasteland populated with angry alcoholics but just take a look.  I can well understand why someone would want to move from a 3 bed flat in touristy Greenwich to a very large house in Dundee with change left over.
    I used to live very near Dundee.  Some of the surrounding area is lovely .  Dundee itself is not .  
    Decent golf courses around there too. Carnoustie & even.St Andrew's aren't that far. 
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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,841
    edited August 2024
    Fraser shit left in limbo 
    Alfie May decent had buyers 
    it’s football one wanted to stay the manager wanted neither 

    footballers have limited time to earn and unbelievably like in real life they pay tax on their wages, they have a cost of living , mortgages and rent aren’t free and some have family’s to help fund , the wages some of these fellas are on whilst more than decent will disappear like a puff of smoke by the time they are out of the game for a few years , so they have to make hay while the sun shines .
    i know I would , so realistically no one is walking away from whatever over paid contract our club put in front of them .

    just pay up Charlton , we made the bad trade cut our losses and move on , it’s not rocket science .
    But it's not just about their worth as players, it's also because Fraser wants to return to Scotland, which massively reduces the number of clubs who would be interested in him and pay him the sort of salary he'd want.

    If Fraser had just wanted to leave us, he'd have moved a long time ago. Several clubs in L1 would take him, as in the right sort of system he's still a decent player, and would either pay him enough for him to be happy to leave permanently OR offer us a more appealing loan deal, paying more of his salary than the Scottish clubs could.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,954
    Kap10 said:
    Any chance we can move this chat on from discussing Scott Fraser every 5 minutes?
    But I paid for a 10 minute argument
    Not the full half an hour? 

  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,250
    Can't he just fuck off to near Scotland? Anywhere north of Watford...
  • lancashire lad
    lancashire lad Posts: 15,624
    sam3110 said:
    Can't he just fuck off to near Scotland? Anywhere north of Watford...
    that is Scotland isn't it?
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,824
    wmcf123 said:
    wmcf123 said:
    Chunes said:
    I never understand the vitriol towards a player for doing exactly what’s best for him and his family’s future security. Why should Fraser cut and run ? If I was him I’d do exactly what he’s doing. Sit it out and see if the club offer to pay a good percentage of his salary, pay him off or a combination of either. He’s a professional footballer selling his talent to the highest bidder. He’s not a Charlton fan, he’s an employee. It would be great for both parties if it gets satisfactorily resolved but if not I don’t see either club or player at fault. 
    I haven't seen any vitriol but I think I can help explain it... Here's my list of footballing priorities:

    1) Charlton
    ...
    (Then everything else)
    ...
    4247) Scott Fraser

    As you can see, he's quite low down. Yes, I can see the situation from his side, but should I care? Should I care that he make an extra 2-3k while doing nothing to earn it? Because I don't. I care a lot more that he goes and we bring in a quality player with his salary. Because that could be the difference between getting out of this league or staying in it. 

    Had he been a good player for us, I think I'd have a lot more sympathy. 
    I very much doubt that Scott Fraser or Scott Frasers wife and children care very much what your priorities are. 
    I’m sure they all prefer living in Greenwich to Dundee 
    Have you seen Dundee?  It's a beautiful city.  I know we all like to pretend the whole of Scotland is urban wasteland populated with angry alcoholics but just take a look.  I can well understand why someone would want to move from a 3 bed flat in touristy Greenwich to a very large house in Dundee with change left over.
    I used to live very near Dundee.  Some of the surrounding area is lovely .  Dundee itself is not .  
    OK I bow to local knowledge - but I would ask how long it is since you lived there?  I think there has been a fair amount of regeneration...
    A few years but I have a lot of friends that still live there .  The city centre is , by all accounts , not nice . As I say, Fife is lovely .  
  • Hal1x
    Hal1x Posts: 4,265
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  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    edited August 2024
    wmcf123 said:
    wmcf123 said:
    wmcf123 said:
    Chunes said:
    I never understand the vitriol towards a player for doing exactly what’s best for him and his family’s future security. Why should Fraser cut and run ? If I was him I’d do exactly what he’s doing. Sit it out and see if the club offer to pay a good percentage of his salary, pay him off or a combination of either. He’s a professional footballer selling his talent to the highest bidder. He’s not a Charlton fan, he’s an employee. It would be great for both parties if it gets satisfactorily resolved but if not I don’t see either club or player at fault. 
    I haven't seen any vitriol but I think I can help explain it... Here's my list of footballing priorities:

    1) Charlton
    ...
    (Then everything else)
    ...
    4247) Scott Fraser

    As you can see, he's quite low down. Yes, I can see the situation from his side, but should I care? Should I care that he make an extra 2-3k while doing nothing to earn it? Because I don't. I care a lot more that he goes and we bring in a quality player with his salary. Because that could be the difference between getting out of this league or staying in it. 

    Had he been a good player for us, I think I'd have a lot more sympathy. 
    I very much doubt that Scott Fraser or Scott Frasers wife and children care very much what your priorities are. 
    I’m sure they all prefer living in Greenwich to Dundee 
    Have you seen Dundee?  It's a beautiful city.  I know we all like to pretend the whole of Scotland is urban wasteland populated with angry alcoholics but just take a look.  I can well understand why someone would want to move from a 3 bed flat in touristy Greenwich to a very large house in Dundee with change left over.
    I used to live very near Dundee.  Some of the surrounding area is lovely .  Dundee itself is not .  
    OK I bow to local knowledge - but I would ask how long it is since you lived there?  I think there has been a fair amount of regeneration...
    A few years but I have a lot of friends that still live there .  The city centre is , by all accounts , not nice . As I say, Fife is lovely .  
    That's a shame - they've managed to make it look like Hampstead Village on some of the photos online.
  • Brownie12
    Brownie12 Posts: 1,525
    sam3110 said:
    Can't he just fuck off to near Scotland? Anywhere north of Watford...
    That would have done 
  • sillav nitram
    sillav nitram Posts: 10,163
    Any chance we can move this chat on from discussing Scott Fraser every 5 minutes?
    Now you’ve done it, expect the inquisition to pay you a visit.
  • ElliotCAFC
    ElliotCAFC Posts: 2,552
    Kap10 said:
    Any chance we can move this chat on from discussing Scott Fraser every 5 minutes?
    But I paid for a 10 minute argument
    No you didn’t 
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