Charlton Summer Transfer Rumours 2024

soapy_jones

Whilst no doubt there is plenty going on behind the scenes, this whole window has shone light on our previous transfer dealings over 2-3 years.

This window my guess is,  the owners offered up a  competitive budget which was quickly spaffed on a number of promising signings, all good so far!  Then we started trying to offload the bulk of the deadwood, surprise surprise no takers. They are on terms that clubs in our bracket would not pay, oh dear we fucked up.  We are now stuck in limbo.  I fear a proper Charlton end of window finish, panic loans it is then...

With a fair wind we could make the playoffs this year, if this is the squad.

AndyG

soapy_jones said:

Whilst no doubt there is plenty going on behind the scenes, this whole window has shone light on our previous transfer dealings over 2-3 years.

This window my guess is,  the owners offered up a  competitive budget which was quickly spaffed on a number of promising signings, all good so far!  Then we started trying to offload the bulk of the deadwood, surprise surprise no takers. They are on terms that clubs in our bracket would not pay, oh dear we fucked up.  We are now stuck in limbo.  I fear a proper Charlton end of window finish, panic loans it is then...

With a fair wind we could make the playoffs this year, if this is the squad.

This 100%

Our transfer business over the last few years has been terrible (even before TS before everyone starts blaming the black box lol) we are stuck with very average players on very good wages for this level with little or no chance of getting shot of them

golfaddick

You'll all be laughing on the other side of your faces when he scores our winner next Saturday at Wigan...🙂.

wmcf123

golfaddick said:

You'll all be laughing on the other side of your faces when he scores our winner next Saturday at Wigan...🙂.

we’d all be delighted !

redbuttle

golfaddick said:

You'll all be laughing on the other side of your faces when he scores our winner next Saturday at Wigan


Don't think there will be any laughing just dreaming if he scores.

Scoham

Not convinced he’ll even make the bench when we know we’re trying to move him on and Anderson and Taylor are available.

RonnieMoore

YannTheMann said:

Also can someone ITK give us something...feels like it's been weeks since the last proper rumour of Begovic, I am genuinely surprised we haven't announced a keeper in the whole week that Harry has been gone 

We are in talks with him unlikely to happen before tomorrow game as we had hoped 

eastterrace6168

RonnieMoore said:

YannTheMann said:

Also can someone ITK give us something...feels like it's been weeks since the last proper rumour of Begovic, I am genuinely surprised we haven't announced a keeper in the whole week that Harry has been gone 

We are in talks with him unlikely to happen before tomorrow game as we had hoped 

Unlikely to happen full stop!!

Exiled_Addick

soapy_jones said:

Whilst no doubt there is plenty going on behind the scenes, this whole window has shone light on our previous transfer dealings over 2-3 years.

This window my guess is,  the owners offered up a  competitive budget which was quickly spaffed on a number of promising signings, all good so far!  Then we started trying to offload the bulk of the deadwood, surprise surprise no takers. They are on terms that clubs in our bracket would not pay, oh dear we fucked up.  We are now stuck in limbo.  I fear a proper Charlton end of window finish, panic loans it is then...

With a fair wind we could make the playoffs this year, if this is the squad.

Yep. The constant changes of ownership, managers, and annual “rebuilds”, have just left things in a complete mess of mediocre players, unfavourable contracts, and unbalanced hodgepodge squads. I think the job was much bigger than the current owners realised and we pretty much lost a season last year when they took 6 months to realise how much work there truly was to be done. 

I would agree that this summer we appear to have finally stopped trying to take short cuts and do things on the cheap but we’ve also lost arguably our three best players from last season so taken steps back before we can stake steps forward. 

It always was a big ask to take the leap to promotion challengers in, effectively (because January was more crisis management than long term planning), one transfer window. I’m hopeful we are better than last season but, with only 5 business days left to the start of the season, it looks like we will be a bit underbaked for match day one and I worry that will leave us with ground to make up, even if we can get more good business done by the end of the transfer window. 

I’d take top 6 right now. Top 10 and improving throughout the season might be a more realistic expectation. 

ShootersHillGuru

Gisappointed said:

Scott Fraser has known his future at the Valley was over at least 8 months ago. Has has had that amount of time to engineer a move, but barely got off the bench for Hearts, so didnt really play or train for a move. 

I'd tell him he can train with kids until his contract is up, and let it sink in how desirable a 30yo unfit, luxury midfielder is in a years time.

I'd rather pay to undermine these hostage-takers rather than subsidise their dream move.

So you’re proposing to “punish” Fraser for what misdemeanour exactly ? 

Henry Irving

ShootersHillGuru said:

Gisappointed said:

Scott Fraser has known his future at the Valley was over at least 8 months ago. Has has had that amount of time to engineer a move, but barely got off the bench for Hearts, so didnt really play or train for a move. 

I'd tell him he can train with kids until his contract is up, and let it sink in how desirable a 30yo unfit, luxury midfielder is in a years time.

I'd rather pay to undermine these hostage-takers rather than subsidise their dream move.

So you’re proposing to “punish” Fraser for what misdemeanour exactly ? 

DFTT

killerandflash

Disappointing that we will play our final preseason game with two No 2 goalkeepers as the options, but Hamer came in fairly late in summer 2011, and that worked out fine 

Kap10

Starinnaddick said:

Fraser holds the whip hand. 
1 He takes a pay cut to move elsewhere. 
2 The club pays part of his wage to facilitate a move. 
3 The club pay up his contract. 
4 He plays out his contract
Which one will it be? 

What about he moves on the same wage but the club part funds it as Portsmouth were doing with the Israeli centre half* who joined us.

*Tala Ben Haim ?

Scoham

killerandflash said:

Disappointing that we will play our final preseason game with two No 2 goalkeepers as the options, but Hamer came in fairly late in summer 2011, and that worked out fine 

Powell signed Hamer in August
Bowyer signed Steer (on loan) in August

It proves we only get promoted from L1 if we sign a GK in August.

Get that GK in and that’s promotion guaranteed.

RonnieMoore

killerandflash said:

Disappointing that we will play our final preseason game with two No 2 goalkeepers as the options, but Hamer came in fairly late in summer 2011, and that worked out fine 

How many do you need  one in goal one on the bench 

Lurker

I can’t believe Fraser. 

What a scumbag, turning up for training, after the summer break and doing pre season - the nerve of the guy. 

This after getting drunk at the end of season awards?  He gets pissed in Charlton whilst secretly wishing the whole time that he lived in different part of the UK? The blokes taking the piss. 

We should offer him a 5 year deal right now so we can let him rot in the under 11’s for 5 years. 

sm

RonnieMoore said:

The Prince-e-Paul said:

SantaClaus said:

Why would anyone want to sign a low energy, low production player who comes with a big ego and high wage expectations?

Ask Scott!

What’s it got to do with Scott ? Jones has been in charge of all transfers 

So what exactly is Scott's role?

Gisappointed

ShootersHillGuru said:

Gisappointed said:

Scott Fraser has known his future at the Valley was over at least 8 months ago. Has has had that amount of time to engineer a move, but barely got off the bench for Hearts, so didnt really play or train for a move. 

I'd tell him he can train with kids until his contract is up, and let it sink in how desirable a 30yo unfit, luxury midfielder is in a years time.

I'd rather pay to undermine these hostage-takers rather than subsidise their dream move.

So you’re proposing to “punish” Fraser for what misdemeanour exactly ? 

Stealing a living.

sm

ShootersHillGuru said:

I think it’s worth remembering that it’s not Frasers fault that we offered him very good wages when we signed him or that his player profile doesn’t fit in with what Jones wants. His star has diminished in brightness since we signed him and the prospect of anything above league one has diminished with it. Hard to shift him because of the contract he’s on, that WE gave him. Not many league one clubs or his preferred Scotland can match it. Zero chance of Championship interest. None of which is the players fault. It’s a totally unsatisfactory situation but we shouldn’t be blaming Fraser for it. 

What is the player's fault is not playing to the best of his abilities in games and training. If he did then getting game time or finding another club would be no problem.

Gisappointed

Henry Irving said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

Gisappointed said:

Scott Fraser has known his future at the Valley was over at least 8 months ago. Has has had that amount of time to engineer a move, but barely got off the bench for Hearts, so didnt really play or train for a move. 

I'd tell him he can train with kids until his contract is up, and let it sink in how desirable a 30yo unfit, luxury midfielder is in a years time.

I'd rather pay to undermine these hostage-takers rather than subsidise their dream move.

So you’re proposing to “punish” Fraser for what misdemeanour exactly ? 

DFTT

I try think a troll is someone who unfairly attacks another poster on social media. 

Please take a look in the mirror Ben.

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RonnieMoore said:

killerandflash said:

Disappointing that we will play our final preseason game with two No 2 goalkeepers as the options, but Hamer came in fairly late in summer 2011, and that worked out fine 

How many do you need  one in goal one on the bench 

His point is that neither are good enough for a promotion chasing team. However, we have stacks of other players who aren't good enough for a place in the xi, so they're in good company.

ShootersHillGuru

We have some very strange supporters.

Covered End

Gisappointed said:

Henry Irving said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

Gisappointed said:

Scott Fraser has known his future at the Valley was over at least 8 months ago. Has has had that amount of time to engineer a move, but barely got off the bench for Hearts, so didnt really play or train for a move. 

I'd tell him he can train with kids until his contract is up, and let it sink in how desirable a 30yo unfit, luxury midfielder is in a years time.

I'd rather pay to undermine these hostage-takers rather than subsidise their dream move.

So you’re proposing to “punish” Fraser for what misdemeanour exactly ? 

DFTT

I try think a troll is someone who unfairly attacks another poster on social media. 

Please take a look in the mirror Ben.

"A person who intentionally antagonizes others online by posting inflammatory, irrelevant, or offensive comments or other disruptive content. Internet trolls. In the late 1980s, Internet users adopted the word "troll" to denote someone who intentionally disrupts online communities".

Gisappointed

Covered End said:

Gisappointed said:

Henry Irving said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

Gisappointed said:

Scott Fraser has known his future at the Valley was over at least 8 months ago. Has has had that amount of time to engineer a move, but barely got off the bench for Hearts, so didnt really play or train for a move. 

I'd tell him he can train with kids until his contract is up, and let it sink in how desirable a 30yo unfit, luxury midfielder is in a years time.

I'd rather pay to undermine these hostage-takers rather than subsidise their dream move.

So you’re proposing to “punish” Fraser for what misdemeanour exactly ? 

DFTT

I try think a troll is someone who unfairly attacks another poster on social media. 

Please take a look in the mirror Ben.

"A person who intentionally antagonizes others online by posting inflammatory, irrelevant, or offensive comments or other disruptive content. Internet trolls. In the late 1980s, Internet users adopted the word "troll" to denote someone who intentionally disrupts online communities".

Henry Irving said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

Gisappointed sa

Gisappointed

Fraser is our highest paid player, £7.2k on sites I've seen.  He prefers to pocket his wage rather than move on, despite us subsidising a half season loan deal.

I'm not sure how that is inflammatory, irrelevant, or offensive.  It is fact.  

Many posters have said we need a No10 (not me) but how many want Scott to line up against Barnsley?

So define 'troll' in my context.

Covered_End_Lad

It isn’t Frasers fault we offered him a stupidly large wage. Why should he accept a pay cut when he has time still on his contract here? 

If my job said oh actually we think we are paying you too much can you leave before the end of your contract or take a pay cut I would tell them to get fucked.

Chunes

We offered Fraser a wage he had arguably earned at that time. The fact he has done nothing to justify it is mostly down to him.

Mendonca In Asdas

Any chance we can move this chat on from discussing Scott Fraser every 5 minutes?

Starinnaddick

I had hoped that NJ would be able to utilise Fraser in some sort of plan B but he seems to have made his mind up that the player is surplus.
In the circumstances we all want him gone but the player holds all the aces whether we like it or not. 

thenewbie

I suspect that Begovic and Potts are probably still on the radar but we need to do some book balancing exercises first to free up wages - Bishop possibly in the same situation but might have either been told its a no go or doesn't want to wait and see/fancies his chances elsewhere (which honestly is fair enough.)

After a burst of (positive) transfer activity we seem to have hit a bit of a lull so it will interesting to see who of our remaining players do end up elsewhere or if the owners decide to take the plunge of paying up contracts fully or in part to force the issue