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  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,019
    We have just about the biggest squad in the league.  About 30 players. Currently they can’t all even fit on a training pitch match.  

    This demoralises some who are not only told they are out of the managers plans but are so far out of those plans they don’t even get a look in.  

    Hence we need to shift a number of players before bringing any new ones in..
    Haven't checked but not sure we have the biggest squad.

    A lot of our squad are U21 and we only have two keepers.

    Otherwise I think we have around 18 or 19 players.

    Probably not a lot more than Jones wants, just not the type he wants.
    OS has 24 first team players listed. Although Anderson, Kanu, Leaburn & TC are U21 they should really be considered as first team players in this scenario. With Ness & Fraser most likely to be off & Assiimwe and Z Mitchell more on the fringes (for now) that still leaves us with a core squad of 20 outfield players who will be wanting to start most of the games
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,558
    Mrkinski said:
    You wont be able to spend £2m+ on a single player as players that command that sort of fee are in the Championship & wont drop down to League 1.

    Assuming we got anything near £8m from Gomez then I'd expect most will go on reducing debt with a bit held back for January. 

    However, we still need a creative midfielder otherwise this summers rebuild will be all for nowt.
    If they did, you would be a bit concerend about their ambition.
    We have a creative midfielder if he don’t leave who in this system will boss it and create and score goals … Scott Fraser 
    Unbelievable Bexley - next you will be suggesting we go for this great young midfielder, that would fit in perfectly, Charlie Kirk.
    He's still available...
    Funny how a few of our recent players can't seem to find a club - Penney, Bonne, Kirk, Lualua.

    Almost as if we were signing absolute chaff.
    And Hector, yet apparently he's a Championship standard player ,😂😂
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,218
    fenaddick said:
    We have just about the biggest squad in the league.  About 30 players. Currently they can’t all even fit on a training pitch match.  

    This demoralises some who are not only told they are out of the managers plans but are so far out of those plans they don’t even get a look in.  

    Hence we need to shift a number of players before bringing any new ones in..
    Haven't checked but not sure we have the biggest squad.

    A lot of our squad are U21 and we only have two keepers.

    Otherwise I think we have around 18 or 19 players.

    Probably not a lot more than Jones wants, just not the type he wants.
    OS has 24 first team players listed. Although Anderson, Kanu, Leaburn & TC are U21 they should really be considered as first team players in this scenario. With Ness & Fraser most likely to be off & Assiimwe and Z Mitchell more on the fringes (for now) that still leaves us with a core squad of 20 outfield players who will be wanting to start most of the games
    With 18 playeros in a match day squad, including two GKs, 22 players isnt a huge overload IMHO.

    Two players for each position other than 3 for GK seems about right.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,218
    Rumour that Docherty has been made captain.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,019
    fenaddick said:
    We have just about the biggest squad in the league.  About 30 players. Currently they can’t all even fit on a training pitch match.  

    This demoralises some who are not only told they are out of the managers plans but are so far out of those plans they don’t even get a look in.  

    Hence we need to shift a number of players before bringing any new ones in..
    Haven't checked but not sure we have the biggest squad.

    A lot of our squad are U21 and we only have two keepers.

    Otherwise I think we have around 18 or 19 players.

    Probably not a lot more than Jones wants, just not the type he wants.
    OS has 24 first team players listed. Although Anderson, Kanu, Leaburn & TC are U21 they should really be considered as first team players in this scenario. With Ness & Fraser most likely to be off & Assiimwe and Z Mitchell more on the fringes (for now) that still leaves us with a core squad of 20 outfield players who will be wanting to start most of the games
    With 18 playeros in a match day squad, including two GKs, 22 players isnt a huge overload IMHO.

    Two players for each position other than 3 for GK seems about right.
    I kind of agree but the balance still doesn't feel quite right to me. 6 strikers for 2 positions is bloated but that's where we have to be because of injuries meanwhile we have 6 midfielders (including Fraser) for 3 positions and we have 3 RWB's and 3 LWB's. 
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,346
    Mrkinski said:
    You wont be able to spend £2m+ on a single player as players that command that sort of fee are in the Championship & wont drop down to League 1.

    Assuming we got anything near £8m from Gomez then I'd expect most will go on reducing debt with a bit held back for January. 

    However, we still need a creative midfielder otherwise this summers rebuild will be all for nowt.
    If they did, you would be a bit concerend about their ambition.
    We have a creative midfielder if he don’t leave who in this system will boss it and create and score goals … Scott Fraser 
    Unbelievable Bexley - next you will be suggesting we go for this great young midfielder, that would fit in perfectly, Charlie Kirk.
    He's still available...
    Funny how a few of our recent players can't seem to find a club - Penney, Bonne, Kirk, Lualua.

    Almost as if we were signing absolute chaff.
    Not to mention the plethora of formerly 'key' players who dropped straight to L2. 
  • sillav nitram
    sillav nitram Posts: 10,163
    Rumour that Docherty has been made captain.
    Is this the right thread for a rumour?
  • Southbank
    Southbank Posts: 5,252
    edited August 2024
    fenaddick said:
    We have just about the biggest squad in the league.  About 30 players. Currently they can’t all even fit on a training pitch match.  

    This demoralises some who are not only told they are out of the managers plans but are so far out of those plans they don’t even get a look in.  

    Hence we need to shift a number of players before bringing any new ones in..
    Haven't checked but not sure we have the biggest squad.

    A lot of our squad are U21 and we only have two keepers.

    Otherwise I think we have around 18 or 19 players.

    Probably not a lot more than Jones wants, just not the type he wants.
    OS has 24 first team players listed. Although Anderson, Kanu, Leaburn & TC are U21 they should really be considered as first team players in this scenario. With Ness & Fraser most likely to be off & Assiimwe and Z Mitchell more on the fringes (for now) that still leaves us with a core squad of 20 outfield players who will be wanting to start most of the games
    Don't worry, 6 of them will be injured by October
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,983
    Lloyd Jones as vice capt perhaps more interesting. Puts to bed the idea that Jones doesn’t rate him and won’t start him 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,622
    Swisdom said:
    You wont be able to spend £2m+ on a single player as players that command that sort of fee are in the Championship & wont drop down to League 1.

    Assuming we got anything near £8m from Gomez then I'd expect most will go on reducing debt with a bit held back for January. 

    However, we still need a creative midfielder otherwise this summers rebuild will be all for nowt.
    If they did, you would be a bit concerend about their ambition.
    We have a creative midfielder if he don’t leave who in this system will boss it and create and score goals … Scott Fraser 
    Fraser doesn't want to be here.  His family are all in Scotland now and he misses them.  He can't move unless he takes a hefty cut in pay as nobody up there will pay him what we do.  He has to choose between his family and his wallet.
    His lack of action in pre season says it all - he is not fancied and would be best placed being moved on
    Apart from Dundee, has there been any interest?
    No one in Scotland can afford his wages that’s what the problem so unless we pay a % he not going to Scotland where he wants to move to 
    He'll have to take a pay cut then.

    Or play with the U23's all season. 
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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,218
    fenaddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    We have just about the biggest squad in the league.  About 30 players. Currently they can’t all even fit on a training pitch match.  

    This demoralises some who are not only told they are out of the managers plans but are so far out of those plans they don’t even get a look in.  

    Hence we need to shift a number of players before bringing any new ones in..
    Haven't checked but not sure we have the biggest squad.

    A lot of our squad are U21 and we only have two keepers.

    Otherwise I think we have around 18 or 19 players.

    Probably not a lot more than Jones wants, just not the type he wants.
    OS has 24 first team players listed. Although Anderson, Kanu, Leaburn & TC are U21 they should really be considered as first team players in this scenario. With Ness & Fraser most likely to be off & Assiimwe and Z Mitchell more on the fringes (for now) that still leaves us with a core squad of 20 outfield players who will be wanting to start most of the games
    With 18 playeros in a match day squad, including two GKs, 22 players isnt a huge overload IMHO.

    Two players for each position other than 3 for GK seems about right.
    I kind of agree but the balance still doesn't feel quite right to me. 6 strikers for 2 positions is bloated but that's where we have to be because of injuries meanwhile we have 6 midfielders (including Fraser) for 3 positions and we have 3 RWB's and 3 LWB's. 
    Balance and quality, i agree.

    Numbers, about right.

    On the strikers Leaburn is still recovering, Aneke, although I don't think its ever been mentioned on CL, has fitness issues, Campbell and Kanu are both young.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,218
    Valley11 said:
    Lloyd Jones as vice capt perhaps more interesting. Puts to bed the idea that Jones doesn’t rate him and won’t start him 
    Was about to say the same.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,218
    Rumour that Docherty has been made captain.
    Is this the right thread for a rumour?
    OK, here's some of that attention you crave.

    You moan about non-rumour posts but when there is one you make yet another feeble "joke".

    It's boring, it's not even slightly amusing and it is hypocritical.

    Back to ignore mode.
  • sm
    sm Posts: 2,958
    Mrkinski said:
    You wont be able to spend £2m+ on a single player as players that command that sort of fee are in the Championship & wont drop down to League 1.

    Assuming we got anything near £8m from Gomez then I'd expect most will go on reducing debt with a bit held back for January. 

    However, we still need a creative midfielder otherwise this summers rebuild will be all for nowt.
    If they did, you would be a bit concerend about their ambition.
    We have a creative midfielder if he don’t leave who in this system will boss it and create and score goals … Scott Fraser 
    Unbelievable Bexley - next you will be suggesting we go for this great young midfielder, that would fit in perfectly, Charlie Kirk.
    He still if played in the right system one of the best mid in league one 
    Funny then he couldn't get a regular place in any of the teams he was loaned/transferred to. One of those young players who believed all the initial hype about himself and then thought further development actually requires some hard work.
  • sm
    sm Posts: 2,958
    Mrkinski said:
    You wont be able to spend £2m+ on a single player as players that command that sort of fee are in the Championship & wont drop down to League 1.

    Assuming we got anything near £8m from Gomez then I'd expect most will go on reducing debt with a bit held back for January. 

    However, we still need a creative midfielder otherwise this summers rebuild will be all for nowt.
    If they did, you would be a bit concerend about their ambition.
    We have a creative midfielder if he don’t leave who in this system will boss it and create and score goals … Scott Fraser 
    Unbelievable Bexley - next you will be suggesting we go for this great young midfielder, that would fit in perfectly, Charlie Kirk.
    He's still available...
    Funny how a few of our recent players can't seem to find a club - Penney, Bonne, Kirk, Lualua.

    Almost as if we were signing absolute chaff.
    And Hector, yet apparently he's a Championship standard player ,😂😂
    It will be good to have a manager and  coaching and scouting teams that gets players on the way up rather than down - the jury is still out with the present lot.
  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,265
    sm said:
    Mrkinski said:
    You wont be able to spend £2m+ on a single player as players that command that sort of fee are in the Championship & wont drop down to League 1.

    Assuming we got anything near £8m from Gomez then I'd expect most will go on reducing debt with a bit held back for January. 

    However, we still need a creative midfielder otherwise this summers rebuild will be all for nowt.
    If they did, you would be a bit concerend about their ambition.
    We have a creative midfielder if he don’t leave who in this system will boss it and create and score goals … Scott Fraser 
    Unbelievable Bexley - next you will be suggesting we go for this great young midfielder, that would fit in perfectly, Charlie Kirk.
    He still if played in the right system one of the best mid in league one 
    Funny then he couldn't get a regular place in any of the teams he was loaned/transferred to. One of those young players who believed all the initial hype about himself and then thought further development actually requires some hard work.
    He also didn't fit Ipswich's system and as far as we know there hasn't been interest from any other EFL side as he doesn't fit their systems either, classic Ronnie ! 
  • sillav nitram
    sillav nitram Posts: 10,163
    Rumour that Docherty has been made captain.
    Is this the right thread for a rumour?
    OK, here's some of that attention you crave.

    You moan about non-rumour posts but when there is one you make yet another feeble "joke".

    It's boring, it's not even slightly amusing and it is hypocritical.

    Back to ignore mode.
    😹 You do bear a grudge, don’t you.
  • Need a couple of decent prem loans to add some more quality I think. Always a gamble I know but we have had a couple of decent ones over the past few seasons.
     Any news on that QPR goalkeeper? Seems to have gone quiet on that one.
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    JamesSeed said:
    Struggling to keep up with ongoing transfer developments, but hoped to catch up by going to the Wimbledon match. 
    I didn’t expect us to be outplayed (by and large) by a League 2 side, and left feeling ver deflated. 
    Are we set for another year of disappointment, or do we feel that the new players need time to settle in?
    It felt like we lacked quality, and there’s only ten days left to sort things out.
    Can not believe it's the end of September in 10 days 😮
    Start of the season 10rh Aug. Yes the window shuts later but surely the hope is to get the approximate starting side sorted before we, you know, start playing actual league matches? 
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,496
    Why would anyone want to sign a low energy, low production player who comes with a big ego and high wage expectations?
    Ask Scott!


    What’s it got to do with Scott ? Jones has been in charge of all transfers 
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  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    NabySarr said:
    JamesSeed said:
    Struggling to keep up with ongoing transfer developments, but hoped to catch up by going to the Wimbledon match. 
    I didn’t expect us to be outplayed (by and large) by a League 2 side, and left feeling ver deflated. 
    Are we set for another year of disappointment, or do we feel that the new players need time to settle in?
    It felt like we lacked quality, and there’s only ten days left to sort things out.
    I think we have quality in Berry, Docherty and Godden but it’s just they aren’t quite up to speed yet. Once they’ve had the full pre-season we will hopefully start to see it once the proper games start 
    Let’s hope so. But there’s only the Pompey friendly left (unless I missed something).

  • Why would anyone want to sign a low energy, low production player who comes with a big ego and high wage expectations?
    Ask Scott!


    What’s it got to do with Scott ? Jones has been in charge of all transfers 
    ...Fraser...🙄
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,000
    Why would anyone want to sign a low energy, low production player who comes with a big ego and high wage expectations?
    Ask Scott!


    What’s it got to do with Scott ? Jones has been in charge of all transfers 
    Absolutely right Ronald, Jones is clearly a man with vision. He played the long game so expertly that he managed to sign Fraser for Charlton two whole years before being appointed Manager then didn't play him at all just to throw us off the scent.

    4D Chess Grand master that man is.
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,805
    Mrkinski said:
    You wont be able to spend £2m+ on a single player as players that command that sort of fee are in the Championship & wont drop down to League 1.

    Assuming we got anything near £8m from Gomez then I'd expect most will go on reducing debt with a bit held back for January. 

    However, we still need a creative midfielder otherwise this summers rebuild will be all for nowt.
    If they did, you would be a bit concerend about their ambition.
    We have a creative midfielder if he don’t leave who in this system will boss it and create and score goals … Scott Fraser 
    Unbelievable Bexley - next you will be suggesting we go for this great young midfielder, that would fit in perfectly, Charlie Kirk.
    He still if played in the right system one of the best mid in league one 
    I am firmly of the view that you use a simple AI checklist to produce this.

    1) how many misspellings 1-5
    2) level of irritation intended 1-5
    3) name of players to reference

    Job done.
  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,273
    edited August 2024
    We have just about the biggest squad in the league.  About 30 players. Currently they can’t all even fit on a training pitch match.  

    This demoralises some who are not only told they are out of the managers plans but are so far out of those plans they don’t even get a look in.  

    Hence we need to shift a number of players before bringing any new ones in..
    Haven't checked but not sure we have the biggest squad.

    A lot of our squad are U21 and we only have two keepers.

    Otherwise I think we have around 18 or 19 players.

    Probably not a lot more than Jones wants, just not the type he wants.

    I thought someone may pick me up as I was surprised and didn't believe what I wrote... but my post was not actually my words but those of Charlie M at the family day... (I just didn't mention that earlier!).
  • Yann897
    Yann897 Posts: 1,530
    Need a couple of decent prem loans to add some more quality I think. Always a gamble I know but we have had a couple of decent ones over the past few seasons.
     Any news on that QPR goalkeeper? Seems to have gone quiet on that one.
    I don’t think we need any loads and like the idea of having a season without them.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,218
    We have just about the biggest squad in the league.  About 30 players. Currently they can’t all even fit on a training pitch match.  

    This demoralises some who are not only told they are out of the managers plans but are so far out of those plans they don’t even get a look in.  

    Hence we need to shift a number of players before bringing any new ones in..
    Haven't checked but not sure we have the biggest squad.

    A lot of our squad are U21 and we only have two keepers.

    Otherwise I think we have around 18 or 19 players.

    Probably not a lot more than Jones wants, just not the type he wants.

    I thought someone may pick me up as I was surprised and didn't believe what I wrote... but my post was not actually my words but those of Charlie M at the family day... (I just didn't mention that earlier!).
    Sneaky 😉

    Stand by what I said.

    Quantity is fine, more quality is needed 
  • PopIcon
    PopIcon Posts: 5,970
    thenewbie said:
    Why would anyone want to sign a low energy, low production player who comes with a big ego and high wage expectations?
    Ask Scott!


    What’s it got to do with Scott ? Jones has been in charge of all transfers 
    Absolutely right Ronald, Jones is clearly a man with vision. He played the long game so expertly that he managed to sign Fraser for Charlton two whole years before being appointed Manager then didn't play him at all just to throw us off the scent.

    4D Chess Grand master that man is.
    Who is Ronald? New midfielder incoming?
  • Richard J
    Richard J Posts: 8,031
    What is the latest on a new keeper?
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    edited August 2024
    I think it’s worth remembering that it’s not Frasers fault that we offered him very good wages when we signed him or that his player profile doesn’t fit in with what Jones wants. His star has diminished in brightness since we signed him and the prospect of anything above league one has diminished with it. Hard to shift him because of the contract he’s on, that WE gave him. Not many league one clubs or his preferred Scotland can match it. Zero chance of Championship interest. None of which is the players fault. It’s a totally unsatisfactory situation but we shouldn’t be blaming Fraser for it. 
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