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England vs Bosnia (C4) - KO: 7:45pm
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Trent is so much better at right back or at least right midfield, rather than in the centre.1
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Grealish has made a big difference, having not had a good season.2
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Konsa with a massive goal line block there… for Bosnia.
He won’t be on Jarrod Bowen’s Christmas card list…6 -
Katrine M was right, see the stars of the future……Baby Beckham, Konsa, Gomez all playing for England0
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Really like look of Wharton. Passing excellent when he come on, maybe a tournament too soon.10
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Enjoyable game, didnt feel like a 3-0 result... Good prep given the way Bosnia sat back for the majority of the match.
Going to be a fun Summer of Football whatever happens.0 -
Just a friendly but that's the kind of game England are going to have to unpick in the group stages. Bosnia were never interested in scoring they just wanted to spoil and first half we let them. Opened them up more in the second though and it was comfortable.
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Two assists from Konsa. Well done young man.2
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Grealish looked sharp, might have secured his place there.5
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Is Thomas Sandgaard working for the BBC website now?
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St James’ Park really is a glorious stadium. Absolutely enormous, but still has a weird uniqueness to it. Games on the road are much more fun than the Wembley borefests.14 -
So a match becomes better because of the stadium? Interesting...cafctom said:St James’ Park really is a glorious stadium. Absolutely enormous, but still has a weird uniqueness to it. Games on the road are much more fun than the Wembley borefests.0 -
Stadiums/crowds influence atmosphere, you only have to see how many of Wembley's "'supporters" disappear to hospitality for about an hour around half time to workout how little they contribute to-the atmos at the game.Algarveaddick said:
So a match becomes better because of the stadium? Interesting...cafctom said:St James’ Park really is a glorious stadium. Absolutely enormous, but still has a weird uniqueness to it. Games on the road are much more fun than the Wembley borefests.
Thats why a lot of Spains games used to be played in Seville because they got better "Spanish" support than in Basque/Catalan regions and the capital.2 -
the stadium can definitely contribute to how much you enjoy a match. Surprised anyone would dispute that to be honest.Algarveaddick said:
So a match becomes better because of the stadium? Interesting...cafctom said:St James’ Park really is a glorious stadium. Absolutely enormous, but still has a weird uniqueness to it. Games on the road are much more fun than the Wembley borefests.
Saw a bit of the match last night on TV & thought St James’ looked glorious in the sunshine.5 -
Yes, and in the case of the new Wembley - it can make a game feel even more tedious to experience when it comes to England friendlies.Algarveaddick said:
So a match becomes better because of the stadium? Interesting...cafctom said:St James’ Park really is a glorious stadium. Absolutely enormous, but still has a weird uniqueness to it. Games on the road are much more fun than the Wembley borefests.Away from the national stadium there definitely feels like a greater appreciation from local supporters whenever we play in the north. As mentioned above, not a sign of a paper airplane or Mexican wave.4 -
Is this a surprise?Algarveaddick said:
So a match becomes better because of the stadium? Interesting...cafctom said:St James’ Park really is a glorious stadium. Absolutely enormous, but still has a weird uniqueness to it. Games on the road are much more fun than the Wembley borefests.
Some of the best atmospheres at England games in the modern era were when Wembley was being redeveloped and they travelled around the country. The Turkey game at Sunderland was probably the best, it was absolutely rocking that night, which you definitely wouldn't have got had it been at Wembley.3 -
Is Wembley the problem, atmosphere seemed excellent there on Saturday for the CL finalChris_from_Sidcup said:
Is this a surprise?Algarveaddick said:
So a match becomes better because of the stadium? Interesting...cafctom said:St James’ Park really is a glorious stadium. Absolutely enormous, but still has a weird uniqueness to it. Games on the road are much more fun than the Wembley borefests.
Some of the best atmospheres at England games in the modern era were when Wembley was being redeveloped and they travelled around the country. The Turkey game at Sunderland was probably the best, it was absolutely rocking that night, which you definitely wouldn't have got had it been at Wembley.0 -
Wembley isn’t the problem, club finals there are insane as were the Euro 20 England games.
Its friendlies and easy qualifiers infront of fans that see England fairly regular and families when the atmosphere is flat.
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I am not talking about the match “experience”. The phrase “Wembley borefest” indicates the match itself is boring. Personally if the football is good I don’t give a monkeys whether people are setting light to each other, being the Palace Ultras or eating a prawn sandwich. There were periods last night where the crowd was as quiet as The Valley after another 94th minute winner from the opposition…0
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My phrase “Wembley borefest” indicates the experience of Wembley is boring, in the context of England games.Algarveaddick said:I am not talking about the match “experience”. The phrase “Wembley borefest” indicates the match itself is boring. Personally if the football is good I don’t give a monkeys whether people are setting light to each other, being the Palace Ultras or eating a prawn sandwich. There were periods last night where the crowd was as quiet as The Valley after another 94th minute winner from the opposition…Imagine the Football For A Fiver crowd, but across about 80,000 people.I don’t know if you were at the game last night, but it was far more enjoyable than an experience at Wembley - and many travelling England fans tend to agree.1 -
I didn't take it as such, Tom - as I say I assumed you were talking about the match as that is a phrase beloved of commentators and pundits when it is a dull match. So we are talking at cross purposes. I agree the atmosphere looked and sounded better than some games at Wembley.cafctom said:
My phrase “Wembley borefest” indicates the experience of Wembley is boring, in the context of England games.Algarveaddick said:I am not talking about the match “experience”. The phrase “Wembley borefest” indicates the match itself is boring. Personally if the football is good I don’t give a monkeys whether people are setting light to each other, being the Palace Ultras or eating a prawn sandwich. There were periods last night where the crowd was as quiet as The Valley after another 94th minute winner from the opposition…Imagine the Football For A Fiver crowd, but across about 80,000 people.I don’t know if you were at the game last night, but it was far more enjoyable than an experience at Wembley - and many travelling England fans tend to agree.
Fact is 2/3 of the population live within striking distance of London, so while road games are a good idea for smaller games, big matches will always be at Wembley.1 -
good run out/audition for some of the new comers to the squad .. there is a lot of talent which might not be called on during the Euros, but augers very well for the future1
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Wonder if Branthwaite will get a start v Iceland.
Feels like 2 from Dunk, Guehi and Branthwaite, personally I'd rather the latter two.
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Plus the FA own Wembley, which cost a fortune to build, so it will always be the main England venue.Algarveaddick said:
I didn't take it as such, Tom - as I say I assumed you were talking about the match as that is a phrase beloved of commentators and pundits when it is a dull match. So we are talking at cross purposes. I agree the atmosphere looked and sounded better than some games at Wembley.cafctom said:
My phrase “Wembley borefest” indicates the experience of Wembley is boring, in the context of England games.Algarveaddick said:I am not talking about the match “experience”. The phrase “Wembley borefest” indicates the match itself is boring. Personally if the football is good I don’t give a monkeys whether people are setting light to each other, being the Palace Ultras or eating a prawn sandwich. There were periods last night where the crowd was as quiet as The Valley after another 94th minute winner from the opposition…Imagine the Football For A Fiver crowd, but across about 80,000 people.I don’t know if you were at the game last night, but it was far more enjoyable than an experience at Wembley - and many travelling England fans tend to agree.
Fact is 2/3 of the population live within striking distance of London, so while road games are a good idea for smaller games, big matches will always be at Wembley.1 -
Dunk is a fine club player, but is lucky to be around at a time when we have massive strength in attacking area, but are weak in one of our traditionally good positions.North Lower Neil said:Wonder if Branthwaite will get a start v Iceland.
Feels like 2 from Dunk, Guehi and Branthwaite, personally I'd rather the latter two.
How many caps would Steve Bould, Steve Bruce or Richard Rufus have got if they were around now?2 -
It’s the same reason why FA Cup Semi Finals are being hosted there.killerandflash said:
Plus the FA own Wembley, which cost a fortune to build, so it will always be the main England venue.Algarveaddick said:
I didn't take it as such, Tom - as I say I assumed you were talking about the match as that is a phrase beloved of commentators and pundits when it is a dull match. So we are talking at cross purposes. I agree the atmosphere looked and sounded better than some games at Wembley.cafctom said:
My phrase “Wembley borefest” indicates the experience of Wembley is boring, in the context of England games.Algarveaddick said:I am not talking about the match “experience”. The phrase “Wembley borefest” indicates the match itself is boring. Personally if the football is good I don’t give a monkeys whether people are setting light to each other, being the Palace Ultras or eating a prawn sandwich. There were periods last night where the crowd was as quiet as The Valley after another 94th minute winner from the opposition…Imagine the Football For A Fiver crowd, but across about 80,000 people.I don’t know if you were at the game last night, but it was far more enjoyable than an experience at Wembley - and many travelling England fans tend to agree.
Fact is 2/3 of the population live within striking distance of London, so while road games are a good idea for smaller games, big matches will always be at Wembley.I completely understand the reasons as to why so many England games are there - I just think the atmosphere is terrible all too often. There’s no real solution to it.1 -
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Dunk got embarrassed by Lukaku against Roma in both europa legs. Whatever happens we are waiting for Maguire to get back to fitness.killerandflash said:
Dunk is a fine club player, but is lucky to be around at a time when we have massive strength in attacking area, but are weak in one of our traditionally good positions.North Lower Neil said:Wonder if Branthwaite will get a start v Iceland.
Feels like 2 from Dunk, Guehi and Branthwaite, personally I'd rather the latter two.
How many caps would Steve Bould, Steve Bruce or Richard Rufus have got if they were around now?1 -
Adam Wharton had a 100% pass completion percentage on a very impressive debut performance.
Bastards found a good one - they’ll make a lot of money selling him.
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