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Just repeating what you said the first time isnt going to make it make more sense when i have already completely deconstructed the basis of your argument. I have already explained I don't believe every shot can be saved. I have explained how I feel he could have done better based on reasonable expectation and the angle. You say you understand what I said but you clearly do not since you insist on going forth with "bY tHaT LoGiC" pub talk.TheHerminator said:
I completely understand what you said. I'm saying that by that logic you could apply that to any shot that goes in.Radostanradical said:
I'm intelligent, rich and handsome too. You should try it sometime, it is fun.TheHerminator said:
You're fun aren't you.Radostanradical said:
Why is it when people say "by that logic" they never actually use the same logic. No I am not saying that every shot is "saveable" I am talking about one specific shot yesterday he could have sorted his feet out better.TheHerminator said:
By that logic every goal scored in every league should really have been covered by the keeper. Every shot is saveable if the Keeper covers all the angles all the time.Radostanradical said:
Yes but if he was better positioned he would have had front post covered too. He had a decent game yesterday but that doesnt mean he should be devoid of any criticism.MuttleyCAFC said:I have rewatched it. It was saveable if you knew in advance where it was going but a keeper has to cover the whole goal. It could have been shot at the near post for instance.
The fact that's impossible seems to not have registered with you
For what its worth I watched again this mprning and whilst I still believe he could have done better, I accept I was a touch harsh on him. It was a very well struck shot.
Please if you are going to "apply the same logic" actually apply the same logic not one you wish to believe for the sake of your own argument.
So you said that if he was better positioned he would have saved it.
I use that logic to say you could argue every keeper should be better positioned for every shot and save every chance.
I'm not sure how else I can explain that
Yes but my logic wasnt that he could be everywhere for every shot and applying to completely unrealistic physical demands.
I claimed for one shot his positioning could have realistically been better, I am not expecting him to dissapate into the quantum world.
I understand I am having to carry the intellectual load of the parley but do try to keep up with the point. My point was based on what is a reasonable expectation. I don't expect Mannion to be hanging from the corner of the goal just in case, as said I was a little harsh yesterday but also given how tight an angle it was he could have been a bit further over.
Keeper could've positioned himself better for that.
It's not possible to be positioned well for every shot as the game ebbs and flows.
I'm starting to wonder if we're talking about the same thing. I'm also trying to work out if you genuinely do think you're an intellectual or are playing up to a bit. Either way it's a bit of a shit look
Then you resort to vulgarity, needless to say I have had the last laugh. I won't carry this on as I feel bad intellectually punching down. See you later Herman, i'm off to the pool.0 -
Ok so you are a troll.Radostanradical said:
Just repeating what you said the first time isnt going to make it make more sense when i have already completely deconstructed the basis of your argument. I have already explained I don't believe every shot can be saved. I have explained how I feel he could have done better based on reasonable expectation and the angle. You say you understand what I said but you clearly do not since you insist on going forth with "bY tHaT LoGiC" pub talk.TheHerminator said:
I completely understand what you said. I'm saying that by that logic you could apply that to any shot that goes in.Radostanradical said:
I'm intelligent, rich and handsome too. You should try it sometime, it is fun.TheHerminator said:
You're fun aren't you.Radostanradical said:
Why is it when people say "by that logic" they never actually use the same logic. No I am not saying that every shot is "saveable" I am talking about one specific shot yesterday he could have sorted his feet out better.TheHerminator said:
By that logic every goal scored in every league should really have been covered by the keeper. Every shot is saveable if the Keeper covers all the angles all the time.Radostanradical said:
Yes but if he was better positioned he would have had front post covered too. He had a decent game yesterday but that doesnt mean he should be devoid of any criticism.MuttleyCAFC said:I have rewatched it. It was saveable if you knew in advance where it was going but a keeper has to cover the whole goal. It could have been shot at the near post for instance.
The fact that's impossible seems to not have registered with you
For what its worth I watched again this mprning and whilst I still believe he could have done better, I accept I was a touch harsh on him. It was a very well struck shot.
Please if you are going to "apply the same logic" actually apply the same logic not one you wish to believe for the sake of your own argument.
So you said that if he was better positioned he would have saved it.
I use that logic to say you could argue every keeper should be better positioned for every shot and save every chance.
I'm not sure how else I can explain that
Yes but my logic wasnt that he could be everywhere for every shot and applying to completely unrealistic physical demands.
I claimed for one shot his positioning could have realistically been better, I am not expecting him to dissapate into the quantum world.
I understand I am having to carry the intellectual load of the parley but do try to keep up with the point. My point was based on what is a reasonable expectation. I don't expect Mannion to be hanging from the corner of the goal just in case, as said I was a little harsh yesterday but also given how tight an angle it was he could have been a bit further over.
Keeper could've positioned himself better for that.
It's not possible to be positioned well for every shot as the game ebbs and flows.
I'm starting to wonder if we're talking about the same thing. I'm also trying to work out if you genuinely do think you're an intellectual or are playing up to a bit. Either way it's a bit of a shit look
Then you resort to vulgarity, needless to say I have had the last laugh. I won't carry this on as I feel bad intellectually punching down. See you later Herman, i'm off to the pool.
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Not a troll but you clearly can't keep up. I'll leave it now, you have my permission to go about your day.TheHerminator said:
Ok so you are a troll.Radostanradical said:
Just repeating what you said the first time isnt going to make it make more sense when i have already completely deconstructed the basis of your argument. I have already explained I don't believe every shot can be saved. I have explained how I feel he could have done better based on reasonable expectation and the angle. You say you understand what I said but you clearly do not since you insist on going forth with "bY tHaT LoGiC" pub talk.TheHerminator said:
I completely understand what you said. I'm saying that by that logic you could apply that to any shot that goes in.Radostanradical said:
I'm intelligent, rich and handsome too. You should try it sometime, it is fun.TheHerminator said:
You're fun aren't you.Radostanradical said:
Why is it when people say "by that logic" they never actually use the same logic. No I am not saying that every shot is "saveable" I am talking about one specific shot yesterday he could have sorted his feet out better.TheHerminator said:
By that logic every goal scored in every league should really have been covered by the keeper. Every shot is saveable if the Keeper covers all the angles all the time.Radostanradical said:
Yes but if he was better positioned he would have had front post covered too. He had a decent game yesterday but that doesnt mean he should be devoid of any criticism.MuttleyCAFC said:I have rewatched it. It was saveable if you knew in advance where it was going but a keeper has to cover the whole goal. It could have been shot at the near post for instance.
The fact that's impossible seems to not have registered with you
For what its worth I watched again this mprning and whilst I still believe he could have done better, I accept I was a touch harsh on him. It was a very well struck shot.
Please if you are going to "apply the same logic" actually apply the same logic not one you wish to believe for the sake of your own argument.
So you said that if he was better positioned he would have saved it.
I use that logic to say you could argue every keeper should be better positioned for every shot and save every chance.
I'm not sure how else I can explain that
Yes but my logic wasnt that he could be everywhere for every shot and applying to completely unrealistic physical demands.
I claimed for one shot his positioning could have realistically been better, I am not expecting him to dissapate into the quantum world.
I understand I am having to carry the intellectual load of the parley but do try to keep up with the point. My point was based on what is a reasonable expectation. I don't expect Mannion to be hanging from the corner of the goal just in case, as said I was a little harsh yesterday but also given how tight an angle it was he could have been a bit further over.
Keeper could've positioned himself better for that.
It's not possible to be positioned well for every shot as the game ebbs and flows.
I'm starting to wonder if we're talking about the same thing. I'm also trying to work out if you genuinely do think you're an intellectual or are playing up to a bit. Either way it's a bit of a shit look
Then you resort to vulgarity, needless to say I have had the last laugh. I won't carry this on as I feel bad intellectually punching down. See you later Herman, i'm off to the pool.
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And not a very good one. Trying much too hard.TheHerminator said:
Ok so you are a troll.Radostanradical said:
Just repeating what you said the first time isnt going to make it make more sense when i have already completely deconstructed the basis of your argument. I have already explained I don't believe every shot can be saved. I have explained how I feel he could have done better based on reasonable expectation and the angle. You say you understand what I said but you clearly do not since you insist on going forth with "bY tHaT LoGiC" pub talk.TheHerminator said:
I completely understand what you said. I'm saying that by that logic you could apply that to any shot that goes in.Radostanradical said:
I'm intelligent, rich and handsome too. You should try it sometime, it is fun.TheHerminator said:
You're fun aren't you.Radostanradical said:
Why is it when people say "by that logic" they never actually use the same logic. No I am not saying that every shot is "saveable" I am talking about one specific shot yesterday he could have sorted his feet out better.TheHerminator said:
By that logic every goal scored in every league should really have been covered by the keeper. Every shot is saveable if the Keeper covers all the angles all the time.Radostanradical said:
Yes but if he was better positioned he would have had front post covered too. He had a decent game yesterday but that doesnt mean he should be devoid of any criticism.MuttleyCAFC said:I have rewatched it. It was saveable if you knew in advance where it was going but a keeper has to cover the whole goal. It could have been shot at the near post for instance.
The fact that's impossible seems to not have registered with you
For what its worth I watched again this mprning and whilst I still believe he could have done better, I accept I was a touch harsh on him. It was a very well struck shot.
Please if you are going to "apply the same logic" actually apply the same logic not one you wish to believe for the sake of your own argument.
So you said that if he was better positioned he would have saved it.
I use that logic to say you could argue every keeper should be better positioned for every shot and save every chance.
I'm not sure how else I can explain that
Yes but my logic wasnt that he could be everywhere for every shot and applying to completely unrealistic physical demands.
I claimed for one shot his positioning could have realistically been better, I am not expecting him to dissapate into the quantum world.
I understand I am having to carry the intellectual load of the parley but do try to keep up with the point. My point was based on what is a reasonable expectation. I don't expect Mannion to be hanging from the corner of the goal just in case, as said I was a little harsh yesterday but also given how tight an angle it was he could have been a bit further over.
Keeper could've positioned himself better for that.
It's not possible to be positioned well for every shot as the game ebbs and flows.
I'm starting to wonder if we're talking about the same thing. I'm also trying to work out if you genuinely do think you're an intellectual or are playing up to a bit. Either way it's a bit of a shit look
Then you resort to vulgarity, needless to say I have had the last laugh. I won't carry this on as I feel bad intellectually punching down. See you later Herman, i'm off to the pool.
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Actually, I would say a d1ck...TheHerminator said:
Ok so you are a troll.Radostanradical said:
Just repeating what you said the first time isnt going to make it make more sense when i have already completely deconstructed the basis of your argument. I have already explained I don't believe every shot can be saved. I have explained how I feel he could have done better based on reasonable expectation and the angle. You say you understand what I said but you clearly do not since you insist on going forth with "bY tHaT LoGiC" pub talk.TheHerminator said:
I completely understand what you said. I'm saying that by that logic you could apply that to any shot that goes in.Radostanradical said:
I'm intelligent, rich and handsome too. You should try it sometime, it is fun.TheHerminator said:
You're fun aren't you.Radostanradical said:
Why is it when people say "by that logic" they never actually use the same logic. No I am not saying that every shot is "saveable" I am talking about one specific shot yesterday he could have sorted his feet out better.TheHerminator said:
By that logic every goal scored in every league should really have been covered by the keeper. Every shot is saveable if the Keeper covers all the angles all the time.Radostanradical said:
Yes but if he was better positioned he would have had front post covered too. He had a decent game yesterday but that doesnt mean he should be devoid of any criticism.MuttleyCAFC said:I have rewatched it. It was saveable if you knew in advance where it was going but a keeper has to cover the whole goal. It could have been shot at the near post for instance.
The fact that's impossible seems to not have registered with you
For what its worth I watched again this mprning and whilst I still believe he could have done better, I accept I was a touch harsh on him. It was a very well struck shot.
Please if you are going to "apply the same logic" actually apply the same logic not one you wish to believe for the sake of your own argument.
So you said that if he was better positioned he would have saved it.
I use that logic to say you could argue every keeper should be better positioned for every shot and save every chance.
I'm not sure how else I can explain that
Yes but my logic wasnt that he could be everywhere for every shot and applying to completely unrealistic physical demands.
I claimed for one shot his positioning could have realistically been better, I am not expecting him to dissapate into the quantum world.
I understand I am having to carry the intellectual load of the parley but do try to keep up with the point. My point was based on what is a reasonable expectation. I don't expect Mannion to be hanging from the corner of the goal just in case, as said I was a little harsh yesterday but also given how tight an angle it was he could have been a bit further over.
Keeper could've positioned himself better for that.
It's not possible to be positioned well for every shot as the game ebbs and flows.
I'm starting to wonder if we're talking about the same thing. I'm also trying to work out if you genuinely do think you're an intellectual or are playing up to a bit. Either way it's a bit of a shit look
Then you resort to vulgarity, needless to say I have had the last laugh. I won't carry this on as I feel bad intellectually punching down. See you later Herman, i'm off to the pool.
Enjoy3 -
Im sorry mate that was admittedly a bit pathetic but as much as you said you’re not a fan of TK either, you did say that TK is a better keeper. I’ll raise this to you and everybody else who thinks he’s better…in what departments does he beat Mannion just out of interest?Callumcafc said:
I don’t even like TK that much either!cafc_se7 said:
Alright TK.Callumcafc said:
Was it? 1.13 xG / 1.03 xGOT faced and 1 goal conceded. About bang in line with expectation.Fortune 82nd Minute said:That's as good a display of goalkeeping I've seen from one of our keepers for a long time.
Hope it puts to bed he's not good enough once and for all.
31 shots faced but majority of them off target or from range.
He had a good day but I don’t think it puts the conversation to bed.
Would appreciate some real engagement rather than trolling though…Kicking?Commanding their box?Shot stopping?
Communication?
General look and performance of defence infront of them?Before, I would have only of had Kaminski ahead in shot stopping but after yesterday’s performance and the saves he made at home in the Norwich game, I am even doubting that.0 -
Kaminski's kicking is way better than Mannion's, he actually hits his target more often than not, especially out of his hands.
Overall shot stopping I still have TK over WM, and he's better with the ball at his feet, and slightly faster too.
Mannion is better at claiming crosses and making himself big and intimidating in 1 on 1s.
I don't fancy either in a penalty shootout.
Communication, neither are fantastic at it, several times over the season TK has failed to shout for the ball, and Clarke was laying into Mannion about it against Bristol City too, especially in the first half.
People point to the defence in front of TK when we talk about how many clean sheets he has, but I doubt we'd have more if that was Mannion in goal for those same games, it would be about the same, and again I reckon that still finishes 1-1 with TK in goal yesterday, so actually they're pretty even overall as keepers go3 -
He's doing a bit, just don't engage at face value unless for some reason you want to talk with the characterTheHerminator said:
Ok so you are a troll.Radostanradical said:
Just repeating what you said the first time isnt going to make it make more sense when i have already completely deconstructed the basis of your argument. I have already explained I don't believe every shot can be saved. I have explained how I feel he could have done better based on reasonable expectation and the angle. You say you understand what I said but you clearly do not since you insist on going forth with "bY tHaT LoGiC" pub talk.TheHerminator said:
I completely understand what you said. I'm saying that by that logic you could apply that to any shot that goes in.Radostanradical said:
I'm intelligent, rich and handsome too. You should try it sometime, it is fun.TheHerminator said:
You're fun aren't you.Radostanradical said:
Why is it when people say "by that logic" they never actually use the same logic. No I am not saying that every shot is "saveable" I am talking about one specific shot yesterday he could have sorted his feet out better.TheHerminator said:
By that logic every goal scored in every league should really have been covered by the keeper. Every shot is saveable if the Keeper covers all the angles all the time.Radostanradical said:
Yes but if he was better positioned he would have had front post covered too. He had a decent game yesterday but that doesnt mean he should be devoid of any criticism.MuttleyCAFC said:I have rewatched it. It was saveable if you knew in advance where it was going but a keeper has to cover the whole goal. It could have been shot at the near post for instance.
The fact that's impossible seems to not have registered with you
For what its worth I watched again this mprning and whilst I still believe he could have done better, I accept I was a touch harsh on him. It was a very well struck shot.
Please if you are going to "apply the same logic" actually apply the same logic not one you wish to believe for the sake of your own argument.
So you said that if he was better positioned he would have saved it.
I use that logic to say you could argue every keeper should be better positioned for every shot and save every chance.
I'm not sure how else I can explain that
Yes but my logic wasnt that he could be everywhere for every shot and applying to completely unrealistic physical demands.
I claimed for one shot his positioning could have realistically been better, I am not expecting him to dissapate into the quantum world.
I understand I am having to carry the intellectual load of the parley but do try to keep up with the point. My point was based on what is a reasonable expectation. I don't expect Mannion to be hanging from the corner of the goal just in case, as said I was a little harsh yesterday but also given how tight an angle it was he could have been a bit further over.
Keeper could've positioned himself better for that.
It's not possible to be positioned well for every shot as the game ebbs and flows.
I'm starting to wonder if we're talking about the same thing. I'm also trying to work out if you genuinely do think you're an intellectual or are playing up to a bit. Either way it's a bit of a shit look
Then you resort to vulgarity, needless to say I have had the last laugh. I won't carry this on as I feel bad intellectually punching down. See you later Herman, i'm off to the pool.
Enjoy2 -
Im genuinely not on this occasion, I got irritated by his insistence of "applying my logic" then making up logic to suit his argument.Chunes said:
And not a very good one. Trying much too hard.TheHerminator said:
Ok so you are a troll.Radostanradical said:
Just repeating what you said the first time isnt going to make it make more sense when i have already completely deconstructed the basis of your argument. I have already explained I don't believe every shot can be saved. I have explained how I feel he could have done better based on reasonable expectation and the angle. You say you understand what I said but you clearly do not since you insist on going forth with "bY tHaT LoGiC" pub talk.TheHerminator said:
I completely understand what you said. I'm saying that by that logic you could apply that to any shot that goes in.Radostanradical said:
I'm intelligent, rich and handsome too. You should try it sometime, it is fun.TheHerminator said:
You're fun aren't you.Radostanradical said:
Why is it when people say "by that logic" they never actually use the same logic. No I am not saying that every shot is "saveable" I am talking about one specific shot yesterday he could have sorted his feet out better.TheHerminator said:
By that logic every goal scored in every league should really have been covered by the keeper. Every shot is saveable if the Keeper covers all the angles all the time.Radostanradical said:
Yes but if he was better positioned he would have had front post covered too. He had a decent game yesterday but that doesnt mean he should be devoid of any criticism.MuttleyCAFC said:I have rewatched it. It was saveable if you knew in advance where it was going but a keeper has to cover the whole goal. It could have been shot at the near post for instance.
The fact that's impossible seems to not have registered with you
For what its worth I watched again this mprning and whilst I still believe he could have done better, I accept I was a touch harsh on him. It was a very well struck shot.
Please if you are going to "apply the same logic" actually apply the same logic not one you wish to believe for the sake of your own argument.
So you said that if he was better positioned he would have saved it.
I use that logic to say you could argue every keeper should be better positioned for every shot and save every chance.
I'm not sure how else I can explain that
Yes but my logic wasnt that he could be everywhere for every shot and applying to completely unrealistic physical demands.
I claimed for one shot his positioning could have realistically been better, I am not expecting him to dissapate into the quantum world.
I understand I am having to carry the intellectual load of the parley but do try to keep up with the point. My point was based on what is a reasonable expectation. I don't expect Mannion to be hanging from the corner of the goal just in case, as said I was a little harsh yesterday but also given how tight an angle it was he could have been a bit further over.
Keeper could've positioned himself better for that.
It's not possible to be positioned well for every shot as the game ebbs and flows.
I'm starting to wonder if we're talking about the same thing. I'm also trying to work out if you genuinely do think you're an intellectual or are playing up to a bit. Either way it's a bit of a shit look
Then you resort to vulgarity, needless to say I have had the last laugh. I won't carry this on as I feel bad intellectually punching down. See you later Herman, i'm off to the pool.
Enjoy0 -
I would agree with this assessment, with the caveat that Kaminski is probably at his ceiling or possibly even starting to lose his sharpest edge where Mannion could conceivably improve with more time and experience.sam3110 said:Kaminski's kicking is way better than Mannion's, he actually hits his target more often than not, especially out of his hands.
Overall shot stopping I still have TK over WM, and he's better with the ball at his feet, and slightly faster too.
Mannion is better at claiming crosses and making himself big and intimidating in 1 on 1s.
I don't fancy either in a penalty shootout.
Communication, neither are fantastic at it, several times over the season TK has failed to shout for the ball, and Clarke was laying into Mannion about it against Bristol City too, especially in the first half.
People point to the defence in front of TK when we talk about how many clean sheets he has, but I doubt we'd have more if that was Mannion in goal for those same games, it would be about the same, and again I reckon that still finishes 1-1 with TK in goal yesterday, so actually they're pretty even overall as keepers go
Whilst I do have them more or less level at present, if it came to keeping one it would be Mannion for that reason, and also that given their ability is quite equal Mannion represents considerably better value.1 -
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Yea I got sucked in. Will ignore from now onGarrymanilow said:
He's doing a bit, just don't engage at face value unless for some reason you want to talk with the characterTheHerminator said:
Ok so you are a troll.Radostanradical said:
Just repeating what you said the first time isnt going to make it make more sense when i have already completely deconstructed the basis of your argument. I have already explained I don't believe every shot can be saved. I have explained how I feel he could have done better based on reasonable expectation and the angle. You say you understand what I said but you clearly do not since you insist on going forth with "bY tHaT LoGiC" pub talk.TheHerminator said:
I completely understand what you said. I'm saying that by that logic you could apply that to any shot that goes in.Radostanradical said:
I'm intelligent, rich and handsome too. You should try it sometime, it is fun.TheHerminator said:
You're fun aren't you.Radostanradical said:
Why is it when people say "by that logic" they never actually use the same logic. No I am not saying that every shot is "saveable" I am talking about one specific shot yesterday he could have sorted his feet out better.TheHerminator said:
By that logic every goal scored in every league should really have been covered by the keeper. Every shot is saveable if the Keeper covers all the angles all the time.Radostanradical said:
Yes but if he was better positioned he would have had front post covered too. He had a decent game yesterday but that doesnt mean he should be devoid of any criticism.MuttleyCAFC said:I have rewatched it. It was saveable if you knew in advance where it was going but a keeper has to cover the whole goal. It could have been shot at the near post for instance.
The fact that's impossible seems to not have registered with you
For what its worth I watched again this mprning and whilst I still believe he could have done better, I accept I was a touch harsh on him. It was a very well struck shot.
Please if you are going to "apply the same logic" actually apply the same logic not one you wish to believe for the sake of your own argument.
So you said that if he was better positioned he would have saved it.
I use that logic to say you could argue every keeper should be better positioned for every shot and save every chance.
I'm not sure how else I can explain that
Yes but my logic wasnt that he could be everywhere for every shot and applying to completely unrealistic physical demands.
I claimed for one shot his positioning could have realistically been better, I am not expecting him to dissapate into the quantum world.
I understand I am having to carry the intellectual load of the parley but do try to keep up with the point. My point was based on what is a reasonable expectation. I don't expect Mannion to be hanging from the corner of the goal just in case, as said I was a little harsh yesterday but also given how tight an angle it was he could have been a bit further over.
Keeper could've positioned himself better for that.
It's not possible to be positioned well for every shot as the game ebbs and flows.
I'm starting to wonder if we're talking about the same thing. I'm also trying to work out if you genuinely do think you're an intellectual or are playing up to a bit. Either way it's a bit of a shit look
Then you resort to vulgarity, needless to say I have had the last laugh. I won't carry this on as I feel bad intellectually punching down. See you later Herman, i'm off to the pool.
Enjoy1 -
I also think that for a team that defends so much, having a keeper that can claim crosses is more valuable than one that's better with the ball at his feet/kicking.thenewbie said:
I would agree with this assessment, with the caveat that Kaminski is probably at his ceiling or possibly even starting to lose his sharpest edge where Mannion could conceivably improve with more time and experience.sam3110 said:Kaminski's kicking is way better than Mannion's, he actually hits his target more often than not, especially out of his hands.
Overall shot stopping I still have TK over WM, and he's better with the ball at his feet, and slightly faster too.
Mannion is better at claiming crosses and making himself big and intimidating in 1 on 1s.
I don't fancy either in a penalty shootout.
Communication, neither are fantastic at it, several times over the season TK has failed to shout for the ball, and Clarke was laying into Mannion about it against Bristol City too, especially in the first half.
People point to the defence in front of TK when we talk about how many clean sheets he has, but I doubt we'd have more if that was Mannion in goal for those same games, it would be about the same, and again I reckon that still finishes 1-1 with TK in goal yesterday, so actually they're pretty even overall as keepers go
Whilst I do have them more or less level at present, if it came to keeping one it would be Mannion for that reason, and also that given their ability is quite equal Mannion represents considerably better value.0 -
SteveACS said:
Actually, I would say a d1ck...TheHerminator said:
Ok so you are a troll.Radostanradical said:
Just repeating what you said the first time isnt going to make it make more sense when i have already completely deconstructed the basis of your argument. I have already explained I don't believe every shot can be saved. I have explained how I feel he could have done better based on reasonable expectation and the angle. You say you understand what I said but you clearly do not since you insist on going forth with "bY tHaT LoGiC" pub talk.TheHerminator said:
I completely understand what you said. I'm saying that by that logic you could apply that to any shot that goes in.Radostanradical said:
I'm intelligent, rich and handsome too. You should try it sometime, it is fun.TheHerminator said:
You're fun aren't you.Radostanradical said:
Why is it when people say "by that logic" they never actually use the same logic. No I am not saying that every shot is "saveable" I am talking about one specific shot yesterday he could have sorted his feet out better.TheHerminator said:
By that logic every goal scored in every league should really have been covered by the keeper. Every shot is saveable if the Keeper covers all the angles all the time.Radostanradical said:
Yes but if he was better positioned he would have had front post covered too. He had a decent game yesterday but that doesnt mean he should be devoid of any criticism.MuttleyCAFC said:I have rewatched it. It was saveable if you knew in advance where it was going but a keeper has to cover the whole goal. It could have been shot at the near post for instance.
The fact that's impossible seems to not have registered with you
For what its worth I watched again this mprning and whilst I still believe he could have done better, I accept I was a touch harsh on him. It was a very well struck shot.
Please if you are going to "apply the same logic" actually apply the same logic not one you wish to believe for the sake of your own argument.
So you said that if he was better positioned he would have saved it.
I use that logic to say you could argue every keeper should be better positioned for every shot and save every chance.
I'm not sure how else I can explain that
Yes but my logic wasnt that he could be everywhere for every shot and applying to completely unrealistic physical demands.
I claimed for one shot his positioning could have realistically been better, I am not expecting him to dissapate into the quantum world.
I understand I am having to carry the intellectual load of the parley but do try to keep up with the point. My point was based on what is a reasonable expectation. I don't expect Mannion to be hanging from the corner of the goal just in case, as said I was a little harsh yesterday but also given how tight an angle it was he could have been a bit further over.
Keeper could've positioned himself better for that.
It's not possible to be positioned well for every shot as the game ebbs and flows.
I'm starting to wonder if we're talking about the same thing. I'm also trying to work out if you genuinely do think you're an intellectual or are playing up to a bit. Either way it's a bit of a shit look
Then you resort to vulgarity, needless to say I have had the last laugh. I won't carry this on as I feel bad intellectually punching down. See you later Herman, i'm off to the pool.
Enjoy
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Why have the trolls targeted the goalkeeping debate threads 😂😂
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Agree its almost like one cant have a differing opinion or take exception to having an argument thrust upon them.Southendaddick said:Why have the trolls targeted the goalkeeping debate threads 😂😂0 -
Do we think Kaminski is actually injured or have the toys been thrown out?0
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I think Nathan Jones threw the toys at him and Kaminski tried to punch them and missed.TheHerminator said:Do we think Kaminski is actually injured or have the toys been thrown out?
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If you have to tell people this then it's probably not true.Radostanradical said:
I'm intelligent, rich and handsome too. You should try it sometime, it is fun.TheHerminator said:
You're fun aren't you.Radostanradical said:
Why is it when people say "by that logic" they never actually use the same logic. No I am not saying that every shot is "saveable" I am talking about one specific shot yesterday he could have sorted his feet out better.TheHerminator said:
By that logic every goal scored in every league should really have been covered by the keeper. Every shot is saveable if the Keeper covers all the angles all the time.Radostanradical said:
Yes but if he was better positioned he would have had front post covered too. He had a decent game yesterday but that doesnt mean he should be devoid of any criticism.MuttleyCAFC said:I have rewatched it. It was saveable if you knew in advance where it was going but a keeper has to cover the whole goal. It could have been shot at the near post for instance.
The fact that's impossible seems to not have registered with you
For what its worth I watched again this mprning and whilst I still believe he could have done better, I accept I was a touch harsh on him. It was a very well struck shot.
Please if you are going to "apply the same logic" actually apply the same logic not one you wish to believe for the sake of your own argument.
So you said that if he was better positioned he would have saved it.
I use that logic to say you could argue every keeper should be better positioned for every shot and save every chance.
I'm not sure how else I can explain that
Yes but my logic wasnt that he could be everywhere for every shot and applying to completely unrealistic physical demands.
I claimed for one shot his positioning could have realistically been better, I am not expecting him to dissapate into the quantum world.
I understand I am having to carry the intellectual load of the parley but do try to keep up with the point. My point was based on what is a reasonable expectation. I don't expect Mannion to be hanging from the corner of the goal just in case, as said I was a little harsh yesterday but also given how tight an angle it was he could have been a bit further over.4 -
It's been a while but I think he actually takes the "biggest dick in CL history" title from the PL45 blokeSteveACS said:
Actually, I would say a d1ck...TheHerminator said:
Ok so you are a troll.Radostanradical said:
Just repeating what you said the first time isnt going to make it make more sense when i have already completely deconstructed the basis of your argument. I have already explained I don't believe every shot can be saved. I have explained how I feel he could have done better based on reasonable expectation and the angle. You say you understand what I said but you clearly do not since you insist on going forth with "bY tHaT LoGiC" pub talk.TheHerminator said:
I completely understand what you said. I'm saying that by that logic you could apply that to any shot that goes in.Radostanradical said:
I'm intelligent, rich and handsome too. You should try it sometime, it is fun.TheHerminator said:
You're fun aren't you.Radostanradical said:
Why is it when people say "by that logic" they never actually use the same logic. No I am not saying that every shot is "saveable" I am talking about one specific shot yesterday he could have sorted his feet out better.TheHerminator said:
By that logic every goal scored in every league should really have been covered by the keeper. Every shot is saveable if the Keeper covers all the angles all the time.Radostanradical said:
Yes but if he was better positioned he would have had front post covered too. He had a decent game yesterday but that doesnt mean he should be devoid of any criticism.MuttleyCAFC said:I have rewatched it. It was saveable if you knew in advance where it was going but a keeper has to cover the whole goal. It could have been shot at the near post for instance.
The fact that's impossible seems to not have registered with you
For what its worth I watched again this mprning and whilst I still believe he could have done better, I accept I was a touch harsh on him. It was a very well struck shot.
Please if you are going to "apply the same logic" actually apply the same logic not one you wish to believe for the sake of your own argument.
So you said that if he was better positioned he would have saved it.
I use that logic to say you could argue every keeper should be better positioned for every shot and save every chance.
I'm not sure how else I can explain that
Yes but my logic wasnt that he could be everywhere for every shot and applying to completely unrealistic physical demands.
I claimed for one shot his positioning could have realistically been better, I am not expecting him to dissapate into the quantum world.
I understand I am having to carry the intellectual load of the parley but do try to keep up with the point. My point was based on what is a reasonable expectation. I don't expect Mannion to be hanging from the corner of the goal just in case, as said I was a little harsh yesterday but also given how tight an angle it was he could have been a bit further over.
Keeper could've positioned himself better for that.
It's not possible to be positioned well for every shot as the game ebbs and flows.
I'm starting to wonder if we're talking about the same thing. I'm also trying to work out if you genuinely do think you're an intellectual or are playing up to a bit. Either way it's a bit of a shit look
Then you resort to vulgarity, needless to say I have had the last laugh. I won't carry this on as I feel bad intellectually punching down. See you later Herman, i'm off to the pool.
Enjoy1 -
Really... Going on about being rich, intelligent, and whatnot. This is such low-standard trolling that you are not even going to get bites. You are competing with legends, here. You are walking in the shadow of the giants before you. They have set the bar and you are stumbling under it like a large drunk man in a Benidorm hotel's limbo competition.Radostanradical said:
Im genuinely not on this occasion, I got irritated by his insistence of "applying my logic" then making up logic to suit his argument.Chunes said:
And not a very good one. Trying much too hard.TheHerminator said:
Ok so you are a troll.Radostanradical said:
Just repeating what you said the first time isnt going to make it make more sense when i have already completely deconstructed the basis of your argument. I have already explained I don't believe every shot can be saved. I have explained how I feel he could have done better based on reasonable expectation and the angle. You say you understand what I said but you clearly do not since you insist on going forth with "bY tHaT LoGiC" pub talk.TheHerminator said:
I completely understand what you said. I'm saying that by that logic you could apply that to any shot that goes in.Radostanradical said:
I'm intelligent, rich and handsome too. You should try it sometime, it is fun.TheHerminator said:
You're fun aren't you.Radostanradical said:
Why is it when people say "by that logic" they never actually use the same logic. No I am not saying that every shot is "saveable" I am talking about one specific shot yesterday he could have sorted his feet out better.TheHerminator said:
By that logic every goal scored in every league should really have been covered by the keeper. Every shot is saveable if the Keeper covers all the angles all the time.Radostanradical said:
Yes but if he was better positioned he would have had front post covered too. He had a decent game yesterday but that doesnt mean he should be devoid of any criticism.MuttleyCAFC said:I have rewatched it. It was saveable if you knew in advance where it was going but a keeper has to cover the whole goal. It could have been shot at the near post for instance.
The fact that's impossible seems to not have registered with you
For what its worth I watched again this mprning and whilst I still believe he could have done better, I accept I was a touch harsh on him. It was a very well struck shot.
Please if you are going to "apply the same logic" actually apply the same logic not one you wish to believe for the sake of your own argument.
So you said that if he was better positioned he would have saved it.
I use that logic to say you could argue every keeper should be better positioned for every shot and save every chance.
I'm not sure how else I can explain that
Yes but my logic wasnt that he could be everywhere for every shot and applying to completely unrealistic physical demands.
I claimed for one shot his positioning could have realistically been better, I am not expecting him to dissapate into the quantum world.
I understand I am having to carry the intellectual load of the parley but do try to keep up with the point. My point was based on what is a reasonable expectation. I don't expect Mannion to be hanging from the corner of the goal just in case, as said I was a little harsh yesterday but also given how tight an angle it was he could have been a bit further over.
Keeper could've positioned himself better for that.
It's not possible to be positioned well for every shot as the game ebbs and flows.
I'm starting to wonder if we're talking about the same thing. I'm also trying to work out if you genuinely do think you're an intellectual or are playing up to a bit. Either way it's a bit of a shit look
Then you resort to vulgarity, needless to say I have had the last laugh. I won't carry this on as I feel bad intellectually punching down. See you later Herman, i'm off to the pool.
Enjoy
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Not a chance. PL54 was a genuine legendary level unpleasant arsehole, not some third rate character bit. He eventually got banned for celebrating when Charlton fans were assaulted by those security guards Katrien brought in. An absolutely deranged postercantersaddick said:
It's been a while but I think he actually takes the "biggest dick in CL history" title from the PL45 blokeSteveACS said:
Actually, I would say a d1ck...TheHerminator said:
Ok so you are a troll.Radostanradical said:
Just repeating what you said the first time isnt going to make it make more sense when i have already completely deconstructed the basis of your argument. I have already explained I don't believe every shot can be saved. I have explained how I feel he could have done better based on reasonable expectation and the angle. You say you understand what I said but you clearly do not since you insist on going forth with "bY tHaT LoGiC" pub talk.TheHerminator said:
I completely understand what you said. I'm saying that by that logic you could apply that to any shot that goes in.Radostanradical said:
I'm intelligent, rich and handsome too. You should try it sometime, it is fun.TheHerminator said:
You're fun aren't you.Radostanradical said:
Why is it when people say "by that logic" they never actually use the same logic. No I am not saying that every shot is "saveable" I am talking about one specific shot yesterday he could have sorted his feet out better.TheHerminator said:
By that logic every goal scored in every league should really have been covered by the keeper. Every shot is saveable if the Keeper covers all the angles all the time.Radostanradical said:
Yes but if he was better positioned he would have had front post covered too. He had a decent game yesterday but that doesnt mean he should be devoid of any criticism.MuttleyCAFC said:I have rewatched it. It was saveable if you knew in advance where it was going but a keeper has to cover the whole goal. It could have been shot at the near post for instance.
The fact that's impossible seems to not have registered with you
For what its worth I watched again this mprning and whilst I still believe he could have done better, I accept I was a touch harsh on him. It was a very well struck shot.
Please if you are going to "apply the same logic" actually apply the same logic not one you wish to believe for the sake of your own argument.
So you said that if he was better positioned he would have saved it.
I use that logic to say you could argue every keeper should be better positioned for every shot and save every chance.
I'm not sure how else I can explain that
Yes but my logic wasnt that he could be everywhere for every shot and applying to completely unrealistic physical demands.
I claimed for one shot his positioning could have realistically been better, I am not expecting him to dissapate into the quantum world.
I understand I am having to carry the intellectual load of the parley but do try to keep up with the point. My point was based on what is a reasonable expectation. I don't expect Mannion to be hanging from the corner of the goal just in case, as said I was a little harsh yesterday but also given how tight an angle it was he could have been a bit further over.
Keeper could've positioned himself better for that.
It's not possible to be positioned well for every shot as the game ebbs and flows.
I'm starting to wonder if we're talking about the same thing. I'm also trying to work out if you genuinely do think you're an intellectual or are playing up to a bit. Either way it's a bit of a shit look
Then you resort to vulgarity, needless to say I have had the last laugh. I won't carry this on as I feel bad intellectually punching down. See you later Herman, i'm off to the pool.
Enjoy0 -
Thats great btw, if you see my comments they were in response to his. Am I not aallowed to respond when attacked ?Chunes said:
Really... Going on about being rich, intelligent, and whatnot. This is such low-standard trolling that you are not even going to get bites. You are competing with legends, here. You are walking in the shadow of the giants before you. They have set the bar and you are stumbling under it like a large drunk man in a Benidorm hotel's limbo competition.Radostanradical said:
Im genuinely not on this occasion, I got irritated by his insistence of "applying my logic" then making up logic to suit his argument.Chunes said:
And not a very good one. Trying much too hard.TheHerminator said:
Ok so you are a troll.Radostanradical said:
Just repeating what you said the first time isnt going to make it make more sense when i have already completely deconstructed the basis of your argument. I have already explained I don't believe every shot can be saved. I have explained how I feel he could have done better based on reasonable expectation and the angle. You say you understand what I said but you clearly do not since you insist on going forth with "bY tHaT LoGiC" pub talk.TheHerminator said:
I completely understand what you said. I'm saying that by that logic you could apply that to any shot that goes in.Radostanradical said:
I'm intelligent, rich and handsome too. You should try it sometime, it is fun.TheHerminator said:
You're fun aren't you.Radostanradical said:
Why is it when people say "by that logic" they never actually use the same logic. No I am not saying that every shot is "saveable" I am talking about one specific shot yesterday he could have sorted his feet out better.TheHerminator said:
By that logic every goal scored in every league should really have been covered by the keeper. Every shot is saveable if the Keeper covers all the angles all the time.Radostanradical said:
Yes but if he was better positioned he would have had front post covered too. He had a decent game yesterday but that doesnt mean he should be devoid of any criticism.MuttleyCAFC said:I have rewatched it. It was saveable if you knew in advance where it was going but a keeper has to cover the whole goal. It could have been shot at the near post for instance.
The fact that's impossible seems to not have registered with you
For what its worth I watched again this mprning and whilst I still believe he could have done better, I accept I was a touch harsh on him. It was a very well struck shot.
Please if you are going to "apply the same logic" actually apply the same logic not one you wish to believe for the sake of your own argument.
So you said that if he was better positioned he would have saved it.
I use that logic to say you could argue every keeper should be better positioned for every shot and save every chance.
I'm not sure how else I can explain that
Yes but my logic wasnt that he could be everywhere for every shot and applying to completely unrealistic physical demands.
I claimed for one shot his positioning could have realistically been better, I am not expecting him to dissapate into the quantum world.
I understand I am having to carry the intellectual load of the parley but do try to keep up with the point. My point was based on what is a reasonable expectation. I don't expect Mannion to be hanging from the corner of the goal just in case, as said I was a little harsh yesterday but also given how tight an angle it was he could have been a bit further over.
Keeper could've positioned himself better for that.
It's not possible to be positioned well for every shot as the game ebbs and flows.
I'm starting to wonder if we're talking about the same thing. I'm also trying to work out if you genuinely do think you're an intellectual or are playing up to a bit. Either way it's a bit of a shit look
Then you resort to vulgarity, needless to say I have had the last laugh. I won't carry this on as I feel bad intellectually punching down. See you later Herman, i'm off to the pool.
Enjoy0 -
Attacked 😂Radostanradical said:
Thats great btw, if you see my comments they were in response to his. Am I not aallowed to respond when attacked ?Chunes said:
Really... Going on about being rich, intelligent, and whatnot. This is such low-standard trolling that you are not even going to get bites. You are competing with legends, here. You are walking in the shadow of the giants before you. They have set the bar and you are stumbling under it like a large drunk man in a Benidorm hotel's limbo competition.Radostanradical said:
Im genuinely not on this occasion, I got irritated by his insistence of "applying my logic" then making up logic to suit his argument.Chunes said:
And not a very good one. Trying much too hard.TheHerminator said:
Ok so you are a troll.Radostanradical said:
Just repeating what you said the first time isnt going to make it make more sense when i have already completely deconstructed the basis of your argument. I have already explained I don't believe every shot can be saved. I have explained how I feel he could have done better based on reasonable expectation and the angle. You say you understand what I said but you clearly do not since you insist on going forth with "bY tHaT LoGiC" pub talk.TheHerminator said:
I completely understand what you said. I'm saying that by that logic you could apply that to any shot that goes in.Radostanradical said:
I'm intelligent, rich and handsome too. You should try it sometime, it is fun.TheHerminator said:
You're fun aren't you.Radostanradical said:
Why is it when people say "by that logic" they never actually use the same logic. No I am not saying that every shot is "saveable" I am talking about one specific shot yesterday he could have sorted his feet out better.TheHerminator said:
By that logic every goal scored in every league should really have been covered by the keeper. Every shot is saveable if the Keeper covers all the angles all the time.Radostanradical said:
Yes but if he was better positioned he would have had front post covered too. He had a decent game yesterday but that doesnt mean he should be devoid of any criticism.MuttleyCAFC said:I have rewatched it. It was saveable if you knew in advance where it was going but a keeper has to cover the whole goal. It could have been shot at the near post for instance.
The fact that's impossible seems to not have registered with you
For what its worth I watched again this mprning and whilst I still believe he could have done better, I accept I was a touch harsh on him. It was a very well struck shot.
Please if you are going to "apply the same logic" actually apply the same logic not one you wish to believe for the sake of your own argument.
So you said that if he was better positioned he would have saved it.
I use that logic to say you could argue every keeper should be better positioned for every shot and save every chance.
I'm not sure how else I can explain that
Yes but my logic wasnt that he could be everywhere for every shot and applying to completely unrealistic physical demands.
I claimed for one shot his positioning could have realistically been better, I am not expecting him to dissapate into the quantum world.
I understand I am having to carry the intellectual load of the parley but do try to keep up with the point. My point was based on what is a reasonable expectation. I don't expect Mannion to be hanging from the corner of the goal just in case, as said I was a little harsh yesterday but also given how tight an angle it was he could have been a bit further over.
Keeper could've positioned himself better for that.
It's not possible to be positioned well for every shot as the game ebbs and flows.
I'm starting to wonder if we're talking about the same thing. I'm also trying to work out if you genuinely do think you're an intellectual or are playing up to a bit. Either way it's a bit of a shit look
Then you resort to vulgarity, needless to say I have had the last laugh. I won't carry this on as I feel bad intellectually punching down. See you later Herman, i'm off to the pool.
Enjoy
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I heard NJ put all the toys in training in the 18yard box and Kaminski wouldn’t come out to collect them, obviously an unsubstantiated rumour.😜The Red Robin said:
I think Nathan Jones threw the toys at him and Kaminski tried to punch them and missed.TheHerminator said:Do we think Kaminski is actually injured or have the toys been thrown out?3 -
FairGarrymanilow said:
Not a chance. PL54 was a genuine legendary level unpleasant arsehole, not some third rate character bit. He eventually got banned for celebrating when Charlton fans were assaulted by those security guards Katrien brought in. An absolutely deranged postercantersaddick said:
It's been a while but I think he actually takes the "biggest dick in CL history" title from the PL45 blokeSteveACS said:
Actually, I would say a d1ck...TheHerminator said:
Ok so you are a troll.Radostanradical said:
Just repeating what you said the first time isnt going to make it make more sense when i have already completely deconstructed the basis of your argument. I have already explained I don't believe every shot can be saved. I have explained how I feel he could have done better based on reasonable expectation and the angle. You say you understand what I said but you clearly do not since you insist on going forth with "bY tHaT LoGiC" pub talk.TheHerminator said:
I completely understand what you said. I'm saying that by that logic you could apply that to any shot that goes in.Radostanradical said:
I'm intelligent, rich and handsome too. You should try it sometime, it is fun.TheHerminator said:
You're fun aren't you.Radostanradical said:
Why is it when people say "by that logic" they never actually use the same logic. No I am not saying that every shot is "saveable" I am talking about one specific shot yesterday he could have sorted his feet out better.TheHerminator said:
By that logic every goal scored in every league should really have been covered by the keeper. Every shot is saveable if the Keeper covers all the angles all the time.Radostanradical said:
Yes but if he was better positioned he would have had front post covered too. He had a decent game yesterday but that doesnt mean he should be devoid of any criticism.MuttleyCAFC said:I have rewatched it. It was saveable if you knew in advance where it was going but a keeper has to cover the whole goal. It could have been shot at the near post for instance.
The fact that's impossible seems to not have registered with you
For what its worth I watched again this mprning and whilst I still believe he could have done better, I accept I was a touch harsh on him. It was a very well struck shot.
Please if you are going to "apply the same logic" actually apply the same logic not one you wish to believe for the sake of your own argument.
So you said that if he was better positioned he would have saved it.
I use that logic to say you could argue every keeper should be better positioned for every shot and save every chance.
I'm not sure how else I can explain that
Yes but my logic wasnt that he could be everywhere for every shot and applying to completely unrealistic physical demands.
I claimed for one shot his positioning could have realistically been better, I am not expecting him to dissapate into the quantum world.
I understand I am having to carry the intellectual load of the parley but do try to keep up with the point. My point was based on what is a reasonable expectation. I don't expect Mannion to be hanging from the corner of the goal just in case, as said I was a little harsh yesterday but also given how tight an angle it was he could have been a bit further over.
Keeper could've positioned himself better for that.
It's not possible to be positioned well for every shot as the game ebbs and flows.
I'm starting to wonder if we're talking about the same thing. I'm also trying to work out if you genuinely do think you're an intellectual or are playing up to a bit. Either way it's a bit of a shit look
Then you resort to vulgarity, needless to say I have had the last laugh. I won't carry this on as I feel bad intellectually punching down. See you later Herman, i'm off to the pool.
Enjoy0 -
Oh come on, I've seen you make the same post loads of times, even when nobody's talking to you!Radostanradical said:
Thats great btw, if you see my comments they were in response to his. Am I not aallowed to respond when attacked ?Chunes said:
Really... Going on about being rich, intelligent, and whatnot. This is such low-standard trolling that you are not even going to get bites. You are competing with legends, here. You are walking in the shadow of the giants before you. They have set the bar and you are stumbling under it like a large drunk man in a Benidorm hotel's limbo competition.Radostanradical said:
Im genuinely not on this occasion, I got irritated by his insistence of "applying my logic" then making up logic to suit his argument.Chunes said:
And not a very good one. Trying much too hard.TheHerminator said:
Ok so you are a troll.Radostanradical said:
Just repeating what you said the first time isnt going to make it make more sense when i have already completely deconstructed the basis of your argument. I have already explained I don't believe every shot can be saved. I have explained how I feel he could have done better based on reasonable expectation and the angle. You say you understand what I said but you clearly do not since you insist on going forth with "bY tHaT LoGiC" pub talk.TheHerminator said:
I completely understand what you said. I'm saying that by that logic you could apply that to any shot that goes in.Radostanradical said:
I'm intelligent, rich and handsome too. You should try it sometime, it is fun.TheHerminator said:
You're fun aren't you.Radostanradical said:
Why is it when people say "by that logic" they never actually use the same logic. No I am not saying that every shot is "saveable" I am talking about one specific shot yesterday he could have sorted his feet out better.TheHerminator said:
By that logic every goal scored in every league should really have been covered by the keeper. Every shot is saveable if the Keeper covers all the angles all the time.Radostanradical said:
Yes but if he was better positioned he would have had front post covered too. He had a decent game yesterday but that doesnt mean he should be devoid of any criticism.MuttleyCAFC said:I have rewatched it. It was saveable if you knew in advance where it was going but a keeper has to cover the whole goal. It could have been shot at the near post for instance.
The fact that's impossible seems to not have registered with you
For what its worth I watched again this mprning and whilst I still believe he could have done better, I accept I was a touch harsh on him. It was a very well struck shot.
Please if you are going to "apply the same logic" actually apply the same logic not one you wish to believe for the sake of your own argument.
So you said that if he was better positioned he would have saved it.
I use that logic to say you could argue every keeper should be better positioned for every shot and save every chance.
I'm not sure how else I can explain that
Yes but my logic wasnt that he could be everywhere for every shot and applying to completely unrealistic physical demands.
I claimed for one shot his positioning could have realistically been better, I am not expecting him to dissapate into the quantum world.
I understand I am having to carry the intellectual load of the parley but do try to keep up with the point. My point was based on what is a reasonable expectation. I don't expect Mannion to be hanging from the corner of the goal just in case, as said I was a little harsh yesterday but also given how tight an angle it was he could have been a bit further over.
Keeper could've positioned himself better for that.
It's not possible to be positioned well for every shot as the game ebbs and flows.
I'm starting to wonder if we're talking about the same thing. I'm also trying to work out if you genuinely do think you're an intellectual or are playing up to a bit. Either way it's a bit of a shit look
Then you resort to vulgarity, needless to say I have had the last laugh. I won't carry this on as I feel bad intellectually punching down. See you later Herman, i'm off to the pool.
Enjoy
Until you start talking about coaching kids in Dartford and disabled mothers, you're stuck in non league.5 -
That's one of the things that's done my head in about Kaminski ever since the start of the season - his propensity to save/parry shots straight back towards opponents and the danger area.Sword65pf said:What was noticeable yesterday with the saves Mannion was making was how he pushes the ball away from danger rather than back into play.He is improving overall as a keeper the more games he plays.0 -
What post are you talking about ? Yes I occassionally make some comments for my own entertainment but actually look at this exchange befire you judge?2
