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  • Anyone know when the October selections are made? With nothing for September, do wonder if the Birmingham game at home on the 5th may get moved.
  • Anyone know when the October selections are made? With nothing for September, do wonder if the Birmingham game at home on the 5th may get moved.
    Prior to the start of the 2024/25 season, all TV selections will be confirmed for the period up to the FA Cup third round in early January. This is a landmark commitment, providing fans and clubs up to five months’ notice, an increase from the five weeks' notice given across the majority of the 2023/24 season.
    https://www.efl.com/news/2024/july/03/sky-bet-efl-broadcast-selections-confirmed-until-end-of-september/
  • Hex said:
    fenaddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    So there are bigger games on at the same time as us? What’s the point then? I don’t get it. It’s not like having a blockbuster v another film at the cinema. Some, including myself, might be put off by the big budget film. How does that work with football? 
    I know I'm in the minority here but it's good for people like me who don't live near the club so can't get to many games. I do understand that it inconveniences fans. No idea if it's a net positive or negative in general but it is handy for me.
    Which was catered for perfectly by the club streaming services, which would provide a bespoke service for their own fans, with their own commentators.
    Except there was no legal way to watch games that weren’t midweek 
    Except watching streamed games on Charlton TV at 3pm Saturday was not illegal.
    It was if you live in the UK.
    Really? What’s the offence?

    “It is unlikely that the football authorities would pursue cases against individuals who watch games in this manner, with the more desirable avenue to bring claims directly against the file sharing sites through the ISPs. Indeed, in 2014, the Court of Justice of the European Union ruled that internet users who watch copyrighted material online aren’t breaking the law by doing so.”

    This is about pirate streams, but in this case the copyright holder is knowingly colluding in making the material available in the UK. So good luck to anyone prosecuting that!
    Whether it is technically legal or not is  secondary or not. The reality is that you cannot watch a 3pm game in the UK without a VPN/pirating which was the point of discussion
  • Think sky will do this all season to attract more tv viewers championship matches 12.30 away fans got to get up early league one late to get home Saturday night. 
    So more might choose just to watch it on sky. Good for the environment I suppose less football fans travelling
    F*** the environment!
  • edited July 9
    fenaddick said:
    Hex said:
    fenaddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    So there are bigger games on at the same time as us? What’s the point then? I don’t get it. It’s not like having a blockbuster v another film at the cinema. Some, including myself, might be put off by the big budget film. How does that work with football? 
    I know I'm in the minority here but it's good for people like me who don't live near the club so can't get to many games. I do understand that it inconveniences fans. No idea if it's a net positive or negative in general but it is handy for me.
    Which was catered for perfectly by the club streaming services, which would provide a bespoke service for their own fans, with their own commentators.
    Except there was no legal way to watch games that weren’t midweek 
    Except watching streamed games on Charlton TV at 3pm Saturday was not illegal.
    It was if you live in the UK.
    Really? What’s the offence?

    “It is unlikely that the football authorities would pursue cases against individuals who watch games in this manner, with the more desirable avenue to bring claims directly against the file sharing sites through the ISPs. Indeed, in 2014, the Court of Justice of the European Union ruled that internet users who watch copyrighted material online aren’t breaking the law by doing so.”

    This is about pirate streams, but in this case the copyright holder is knowingly colluding in making the material available in the UK. So good luck to anyone prosecuting that!
    Whether it is technically legal or not is  secondary or not. The reality is that you cannot watch a 3pm game in the UK without a VPN/pirating which was the point of discussion
    Understood but I do know people who won’t do it because they are concerned about breaking the law. They wouldn’t be.
  • Hex said:
    fenaddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    So there are bigger games on at the same time as us? What’s the point then? I don’t get it. It’s not like having a blockbuster v another film at the cinema. Some, including myself, might be put off by the big budget film. How does that work with football? 
    I know I'm in the minority here but it's good for people like me who don't live near the club so can't get to many games. I do understand that it inconveniences fans. No idea if it's a net positive or negative in general but it is handy for me.
    Which was catered for perfectly by the club streaming services, which would provide a bespoke service for their own fans, with their own commentators.
    Except there was no legal way to watch games that weren’t midweek 
    Except watching streamed games on Charlton TV at 3pm Saturday was not illegal.
    It was if you live in the UK.
    Really? What’s the offence?

    “It is unlikely that the football authorities would pursue cases against individuals who watch games in this manner, with the more desirable avenue to bring claims directly against the file sharing sites through the ISPs. Indeed, in 2014, the Court of Justice of the European Union ruled that internet users who watch copyrighted material online aren’t breaking the law by doing so.”

    This is about pirate streams, but in this case the copyright holder is knowingly colluding in making the material available in the UK. So good luck to anyone prosecuting that!
    And it's not as if people who pay the £10 are cheating the club out of money either. 

    Indeed I can honestly say that last season the club and "the EFL in general" made money from me as a result of using a VPN and buying £10 passes, as I still had an expensive Zone A season ticket, and only watched away games on streaming that I wouldn't have gone to anyway.
  • fenaddick said:
    Hex said:
    fenaddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    So there are bigger games on at the same time as us? What’s the point then? I don’t get it. It’s not like having a blockbuster v another film at the cinema. Some, including myself, might be put off by the big budget film. How does that work with football? 
    I know I'm in the minority here but it's good for people like me who don't live near the club so can't get to many games. I do understand that it inconveniences fans. No idea if it's a net positive or negative in general but it is handy for me.
    Which was catered for perfectly by the club streaming services, which would provide a bespoke service for their own fans, with their own commentators.
    Except there was no legal way to watch games that weren’t midweek 
    Except watching streamed games on Charlton TV at 3pm Saturday was not illegal.
    It was if you live in the UK.
    Really? What’s the offence?

    “It is unlikely that the football authorities would pursue cases against individuals who watch games in this manner, with the more desirable avenue to bring claims directly against the file sharing sites through the ISPs. Indeed, in 2014, the Court of Justice of the European Union ruled that internet users who watch copyrighted material online aren’t breaking the law by doing so.”

    This is about pirate streams, but in this case the copyright holder is knowingly colluding in making the material available in the UK. So good luck to anyone prosecuting that!
    Whether it is technically legal or not is  secondary or not. The reality is that you cannot watch a 3pm game in the UK without a VPN/pirating which was the point of discussion
    Understood but I do know people who won’t do it because they are concerned about breaking the law. They wouldn’t be.
    Particularly if they paid the club 10 quid it would not otherwise have via VPN
  • Three of Charlton's December fixtures have been chosen for live TV coverage on Sky Sports.

    The Addicks’ trip to Lincoln City on Saturday, December 7th will feature on Sky Sports +, and now has a new kick-off time of 12.30pm GMT.

    Charlton’s Boxing Day fixture at home to Cambridge United has been selected to appear on Sky Sports Football, but will keep the same kick-off time of 3pm GMT.

    Finally, the Addicks’ home clash against Wycombe Wanderers on Saturday, December 29th will also be shown on Sky Sports + and will now kick off at 12.30pm GMT.

    https://www.charltonafc.com/news/three-fixtures-selected-sky-sports-coverage

  • edited July 30
    That confirms that the only Charlton games to be moved for TV / streaming before the start of 2025 are

    Wigan (A) 17:30, 10/8
    Orient (H) 12:30, 17/8
    Lincoln (A) 12:30, 7/12
    Wycombe (H) 12:30, 29/12

    (edited to add Orient which I had forgotten about)
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  • 4 games too many. Give me 3pm kick off any day of the week. 12.30 atmosphere are normally crap 
  • 4 games too many. Give me 3pm kick off any day of the week. 12.30 atmosphere are normally crap 
    normally on Tuesday I have to work
  • clive said:

    Three of Charlton's December fixtures have been chosen for live TV coverage on Sky Sports.

    The Addicks’ trip to Lincoln City on Saturday, December 7th will feature on Sky Sports +, and now has a new kick-off time of 12.30pm GMT.

    Charlton’s Boxing Day fixture at home to Cambridge United has been selected to appear on Sky Sports Football, but will keep the same kick-off time of 3pm GMT.

    Finally, the Addicks’ home clash against Wycombe Wanderers on Saturday, December 29th will also be shown on Sky Sports + and will now kick off at 12.30pm GMT.

    https://www.charltonafc.com/news/three-fixtures-selected-sky-sports-coverage

    Wycombe game is on a Sunday. 

    28th December is a Saturday & the 29th December is a Sunday. Assume they will amend that typo on the article very shortly. 
  • That confirms that the only Charlton games to be moved for TV / streaming before the start of 2025 are

    Wigan (A) 17:30, 10/8
    Orient (H) 12:30, 17/8
    Lincoln (A) 12:30, 7/12
    Wycombe (H) 12:30, 29/12

    (edited to add Orient which I had forgotten about)
    Only.
  • Weird how our televised games are all in August and December.
  • Weird how our televised games are all in August and December.
    And not very mouthwatering ties either. Lincoln away 🙄.


     
  • Showing both the 26th and the 29th, clearly Sky are just setting up the rig in the car park over Christmas and can't be arsed to go anywhere else. Will probably hit the attendance on those days too as there will be no excuse to leave the MILs for the football as you can "watch it in the spare room"
  • This is so shit
  • edited July 30
    clb74 said:
    That confirms that the only Charlton games to be moved for TV / streaming before the start of 2025 are

    Wigan (A) 17:30, 10/8
    Orient (H) 12:30, 17/8
    Lincoln (A) 12:30, 7/12
    Wycombe (H) 12:30, 29/12

    (edited to add Orient which I had forgotten about)
    Only.
    Yes, it's a small amount when compared with what people were expecting e.g. every other week.
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  • sam3110 said:
    Showing both the 26th and the 29th, clearly Sky are just setting up the rig in the car park over Christmas and can't be arsed to go anywhere else. Will probably hit the attendance on those days too as there will be no excuse to leave the MILs for the football as you can "watch it in the spare room"
    Nah, people will still be desperate to get away from the in-laws!
  • sam3110 said:
    Showing both the 26th and the 29th, clearly Sky are just setting up the rig in the car park over Christmas and can't be arsed to go anywhere else. Will probably hit the attendance on those days too as there will be no excuse to leave the MILs for the football as you can "watch it in the spare room"
    Nah, people will still be desperate to get away from the in-laws!
    I'll be desperate to get away, but I'll also be desperate not to be castrated 
  • edited July 31
    Confirmed fixture schedule up until the January fixtures released by the club.


  • Confirmed fixture schedule up until the January fixtures released by the club.


    I'm assuming the games with asterisks next to them are on International weekends.


  • Confirmed fixture schedule up until the January fixtures released by the club.


    I'm assuming the games with asterisks next to them are on International weekends.


    Yes - if you look closely it says that near the top. Odd - usually asterisk info is at the bottom? 
  • Confirmed fixture schedule up until the January fixtures released by the club.


    I'm assuming the games with asterisks next to them are on International weekends.


    Yes - if you look closely it says that near the top. Odd - usually asterisk info is at the bottom? 
    Ah. Must have been produced by an Aussie. 
  • sam3110 said:
    Showing both the 26th and the 29th, clearly Sky are just setting up the rig in the car park over Christmas and can't be arsed to go anywhere else. Will probably hit the attendance on those days too as there will be no excuse to leave the MILs for the football as you can "watch it in the spare room"
    Nah, people will still be desperate to get away from the in-laws!
    Thinking of you, @cantersaddick :)
  • sam3110 said:
    Showing both the 26th and the 29th, clearly Sky are just setting up the rig in the car park over Christmas and can't be arsed to go anywhere else. Will probably hit the attendance on those days too as there will be no excuse to leave the MILs for the football as you can "watch it in the spare room"
    Nah, people will still be desperate to get away from the in-laws!
    Thinking of you, @cantersaddick :)
    Hahaha very true!!
  • edited July 31
    So 7 out of 13 home games are 3pm on a Saturday (if international weekends matches are cancelled for us )
  • I have Virgin TV with a subscription to Sky sports HD ( for the football and F1) I have gone through the sky programmes and seem not to have Sky sports+.( at least it is not listed) only had this since last September, I assume I will have to do a system update?..... or will this be done automatically?.
    Appreciate any links or advice

    I hope to attend some home games, and take the grandkids down to the Valley (who have shown an interest). I have not attended evening games, due to the nonsense of the M20, amongst other considerations as I live on the coast and being north of 70 years of age, not confident to drive on narrow country roads late at night.

      
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