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  • Second season running that the 3 promoted clubs will go straight back down. Unless a team comes up and does well next season (i'd imagine Leeds would have the best chance) then serious questions are going to get asked about how things can change.

    PL clubs obviously won't care but it's becoming more and more of a closed shop, and as poor as the bottom 3 are, we know they'll be amongst the favourites for promotion next season. The top 3 in the championship right now are Leeds who were in the PL two years ago and came third last year, and Sheff Utd/Burnley who both went down last year. 

    If they both bounce back immediately next year Leicester and Southampton will have gone PL-Champ-PL-Champ-PL. 

    The only way you have a chance of surviving is to come up and spend about 150m.
    The midtable PL teams will be aware that one bad season can turn them from PL regulars to yo yo clubs.

    Leicester went from PL champions and FA Cup winners to a financial basket case yo yo club after just one bad season. Indeed because of PSR rules they are much weaker than the team which got relegated.
  • I thought the embarrassing records Sheff Utd set last season would be there for years, yet looks like Southampton are going all out to break some of them. Goals conceded is probably safe, but not points and goals scored.

    Sheff Utd (after 38 games)
    16 points
    35 goals scored
    104 goals conceded 

    Southampton (after 27 games)
    9 points
    19 goals scored
    65 goals conceded

    Sheff Utd do not hold the record. Derby only got 11 points in 2008

    https://www.theguardian.com/football/who-scored-blog/2025/jan/18/southampton-premier-league-record-derby-football-points?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other
  • Valley11 said:
    I think the Championship is probably the best league to be in. 
    Ticket prices aren’t outrageous and the football is exciting. 
    Trade that for getting thumped every week, paying big bucks for tickets?
    A dilemma we’ll hopefully be weighing up soon!

    The PL does at least have a cap of £30 on away ticket prices, the Championship doesn't.

    Leeds fans tend to get stung the most as almost every club raises their price for them. Sheffield Wednesday for example charged them 45 quid earlier this season.
  • Valley11 said:
    I think the Championship is probably the best league to be in. 
    Ticket prices aren’t outrageous and the football is exciting. 
    Trade that for getting thumped every week, paying big bucks for tickets?
    A dilemma we’ll hopefully be weighing up soon!

    I am not sure it is big bucks for away fans in premier league.  £30 cap. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61745996.amp

    I do agree with your other points though. The only enticing thing about the premier league is the number of London clubs compared to the championship, so easier games to get to with greater rivalry.  

    Only QPR and our good friends at the karate club den in the champ (at a stretch Watford and Luton). 
  • Valley11 said:
    I think the Championship is probably the best league to be in. 
    Ticket prices aren’t outrageous and the football is exciting. 
    Trade that for getting thumped every week, paying big bucks for tickets?
    A dilemma we’ll hopefully be weighing up soon!

    The PL does at least have a cap of £30 on away ticket prices, the Championship doesn't.

    Leeds fans tend to get stung the most as almost every club raises their price for them. Sheffield Wednesday for example charged them 45 quid earlier this season.
    More fool them for paying it. Should just boycott clubs that mug them off like that. 
  • edited March 9
    Strange game between Spurs and Bournemouth.
    Spurs still look really poor. Not sure why they insist on passing it around at the back when Bournemouth kept turning it over again and again. Bournemouth are fantastic on the counter. Their first goal and the disallowed one that was offside were extraordinary examples of great, quick, ruthless counterattacking play.
    In the end, Spurs were incredibly lucky to get anything out of that. A bizarre fluke out of nothing, then an unfathomable brain fart by the Bournemouth keeper to gift them a penalty.  I think even Spurs fans would admit they didn’t deserve anything there.
    Entertaining game, but really odd.
  • I remember we had this conversation about ten years ago, then we had a few years of Championship teams coming up and being very competitive. 

    I do think we need to scrap FFP. I'm not sure what purpose it is serving other than stopping teams outside the big 6 from investing.
    NFL-style salary cap. 

    Let's get some chaos. 
  • Strange game between Spurs and Bournemouth.
    Spurs still look really poor. Not sure why they insist on passing it around at the back when Bournemouth kept turning it over again and again. Bournemouth are fantastic on the counter. Their first goal and the disallowed one that was offside were extraordinary examples of great, quick, ruthless counterattacking play.
    In the end, Spurs were incredibly lucky to get anything out of that. A bizarre fluke out of nothing, then an unfathomable brain fart by the Bournemouth keeper to gift them a penalty.  I think even Spurs fans would admit they didn’t deserve anything there.
    Entertaining game, but really odd.
    Absolute dross.  Bournemouth should have won by 5 or 6 the number of chances we gave them.
    Such a shame they had that goal ruled out for offside, that was glorious football.


  • Man Utd are such a poor team to watch.
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  • Off_it said:
    Man Utd are such a poor team to watch.
    As soon as I posted that I knew they'd bloody go and score!
  • I remember we had this conversation about ten years ago, then we had a few years of Championship teams coming up and being very competitive. 

    I do think we need to scrap FFP. I'm not sure what purpose it is serving other than stopping teams outside the big 6 from investing.
    NFL-style salary cap. 

    Let's get some chaos. 
    A salary cap like the NFL just isn't practical though. You can't expect the likes of Man U, City, Chelsea etc to have the same cap as Wolves and Leicester.

    What is perhaps more practical though is something like what they have in the NBA, which is basically that if a team goes over the cap then they pay a 'luxury tax' penalty. So for example you could say that if a team is 50m over the cap, then they pay a 50m tax penalty on top of that which goes to the league.
  • Brilliant performance from Rice, great goal to get them level and then an incredible last ditch tackle to deny Hojlund after Merino was busy day dreaming.
  • Felt Reya could have done better with the free kick but a couple of worldie saves in the second half that kept Arsenal in the game 
  • Rice was excellent today but they are missing Saka  and Jesus while Sterling has been on the decline for the last 18 months and was a strange loan for Arsenal.
    Brilliant free kick from Fernandez and the wall is supposed to cover that side of the goal but it was an up and down free kick and the wall jumped as well.
    Excellent skillful goal.
  • MarcusH26 said:
    It suits them, seeing it looks like one big circus tent... After all they've already got the clowns
  • Jokes will write themselves about it looking like a circus:


  • Can't afford to feed the canteen lady though!
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  • Ratcliffe on record in his interview with Neville saying that without their latest cost cutting measures they'd have run out of money by November.

    So how are they funding a stadium that will cost 2 billion?
  • Probably looking for public money.
  • Can't afford to feed the canteen lady though!
    Because, of course, the minimum wage that the lady in question would be on would dwarf the £10m plus some of the United players are on. What's that saying about value and price? This, coming from the man domiciled in Monaco in order to avoid £4bn in UK tax. Well, perhaps, he could ask the tax payers of Monaco to fund his vanity project. 
  • Will be some away day though for teams going there in the FA Cup with a 15k allocation!
  • iaitch said:
    Probably looking for public money.
    That plus also sure they'd sell naming rights.
  • Gone from skint by Christmas to building a £2bn Northern Gerry Cottles Circus tent in 12 hours.
    Thats some turn around!
  • https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c0eg5824j8wo

    Chelsea have agreed a deal in principle to sign Sporting winger Geovany Quenda. The 17-year-old is expected to sign a seven-year deal at Stamford Bridge with an option for an extra season after a fee of about £40m was agreed.

    Just what Chelsea need, yet another winger on an insanely long contract.
  • Cristiano Ronaldo, the second best player of all time cost 12m (21.5m in today’s money) and his record at Sporting is better than Quenda’s. Football is absolutely insane.
  • https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c0eg5824j8wo

    Chelsea have agreed a deal in principle to sign Sporting winger Geovany Quenda. The 17-year-old is expected to sign a seven-year deal at Stamford Bridge with an option for an extra season after a fee of about £40m was agreed.

    Just what Chelsea need, yet another winger on an insanely long contract.
    Massive spanner in the works for United and Amorim though. Quenda was supposedly his primary summer target given he knows him from Sporting and they desperately need a RWB.

    They do have a lot of wingers but Quenda won't actually join them until 2026 by which time i expect two from Madueke, Neto and Mudryk will be moved on. Estevao (another winger) who is joining them in the summer is going to be very good if he lives up to the hype.
  • Arsenal beat Chelsea, and Fulham beat Spurs. 

    It would be hilarious if Chelsea, with their ludicrous spending and contracts, miss out on a Champions League spot, while Spurs are now 11 points behind Fulham.
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