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  • se9addick said:
    sam3110 said:
    Thailand win the gold in the lightweight Taekwondo, in the middle of the Grand Palais (what an amazing venue btw) but what's the scoring all about? VAR replays to see one girl gently tap her toe on her opponent's headguard
    No one will ever be able to compete with Paris for venues. They’ve won that for eternity. 

    Certainly agree with that, the use of a rugby stadium for the swimming allowed so many more people to watch and create a good atmosphere. The archery was held at the Palace of Versailles and the aerial shot of the range, with the palace in the background was amazing.
  • I keep thinking of the Hudson-Smith race.  He wasn't exactly hanging about - 5th fastest run of all time - and yet Quincy Hall took him out in the last 5 seconds from a mile back.   Astonishing, I've never seen anything like it.




      
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    Magnificent run by Hudson-Smith yet pipped by the American.

    Eric Liddell, in Paris, 100 years ago in 1924 the last male British gold medallist in the 400 metres.

    The biography of Liddell by Duncan Hamilton is well worth a read incidentally. Duncan Hamilton is a great sports writer.
  • Off_it said:
    Similar to Kerr last night, in both races the Americans were brilliant, rather than the Brits throwing it away.
    2 so called favourites for Gold.

    Along with the bikes, the rowers, the clay shooter & the equestrian there have been Gold medals there for the taking & for one reason or another its slipped from our grasp. 

    How much better the medal table would look with 4 or 5 more Golds. 

    (because we all know Gold is everything...😉)
    Do you have to moan about fucking everything? Jesus, you must be so draining to live with.
    Why do you think I was moaning ? I was merely stating a fact. Lots of other posters have commented on all sorts of things & none are told that they are "fucking moaning".

    I think this says more about you than me.
  • LenGlover said:
    Magnificent run by Hudson-Smith yet pipped by the American.

    Eric Liddell, in Paris, 100 years ago in 1924 the last male British gold medallist in the 400 metres.

    The biography of Liddell by Duncan Hamilton is well worth a read incidentally. Duncan Hamilton is a great sports writer.
    Local boy.  Also (and maybe @Jessie or others can confirm whether this is true) Eric Liddell is often cited as the first Chinese Track and Field gold medalist at the Olympics. (He was born - and died - in China). 
  • Chizz said:
    LenGlover said:
    Magnificent run by Hudson-Smith yet pipped by the American.

    Eric Liddell, in Paris, 100 years ago in 1924 the last male British gold medallist in the 400 metres.

    The biography of Liddell by Duncan Hamilton is well worth a read incidentally. Duncan Hamilton is a great sports writer.
    Local boy.  Also (and maybe @Jessie or others can confirm whether this is true) Eric Liddell is often cited as the first Chinese Track and Field gold medalist at the Olympics. (He was born - and died - in China). 
    Educated, with his older brother, at Eltham College. He was also a Scottish rugby international.

    His father was a missionary in China and Eric followed in his footsteps as did other family members.
  • The US winning the 400m isn't a shock, Hall was one of the favourites and only beat his PB (set earlier this season) by 0.4 of second.

    The US winning the 1500m and getting a silver in the 3000m steeplechase is much more of a shock. Hocker took THREE seconds off his personal best in the 1500m, Rooks took NINE seconds off his personal best in the steeplechase, those are the sorts of runs nobody could have predicted.
  • Maybe Bill Gates has put bionic microchips into them to make them run faster  :D
  • Similar to Kerr last night, in both races the Americans were brilliant, rather than the Brits throwing it away.
    2 so called favourites for Gold.

    Along with the bikes, the rowers, the clay shooter & the equestrian there have been Gold medals there for the taking & for one reason or another its slipped from our grasp. 

    How much better the medal table would look with 4 or 5 more Golds. 

    (because we all know Gold is everything...😉)
    Fine margins though, wasn't it?
    Could of easily gone a lot worse or another day 2 strides better.
    The woman, (Rutter), in the shooting was a tad unlucky she did hit the skeet but the judges disagreed and her opponent obviously didn't see it.
    The BMX girl got her tactics wrong for the final after being clearly the best.
     Winning means nothing if too easy.
  • US woman shotputter wearing a full face mask and large shades, could be anyone under the covering.
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  • Off_it said:
    Similar to Kerr last night, in both races the Americans were brilliant, rather than the Brits throwing it away.
    2 so called favourites for Gold.

    Along with the bikes, the rowers, the clay shooter & the equestrian there have been Gold medals there for the taking & for one reason or another its slipped from our grasp. 

    How much better the medal table would look with 4 or 5 more Golds. 

    (because we all know Gold is everything...😉)
    Do you have to moan about fucking everything? Jesus, you must be so draining to live with.
    Why do you think I was moaning ? I was merely stating a fact. Lots of other posters have commented on all sorts of things & none are told that they are "fucking moaning".

    I think this says more about you than me.
    "so called favourites" ..... zzzzzz
  • Maybe Bill Gates has put bionic microchips into them to make them run faster  :D
    they would need constant rebooting.
  • edited August 8
    I keep thinking of the Hudson-Smith race.  He wasn't exactly hanging about - 5th fastest run of all time - and yet Quincy Hall took him out in the last 5 seconds from a mile back.   Astonishing, I've never seen anything like it.




      

    In both the 400 and 800 Metres you had just one runner finishing in 6th gear where everyone else is just trying to get home in 3rd after really fast paced races.
    You had world class athletes at the front of both races yet both USA runners, Hall and Hocker went past the opposition in their races as if they were county runners.

    Despite Cole Hocker turbo finish if Ingebrigtsen hadn't left the gap on the inside to try to block Kerr and with Nuguse still making ground just to the right of Kerr, Hocker would've had no way through and would've had to switch to the right of Nuguse.
  • Chizz said:
    LenGlover said:
    Magnificent run by Hudson-Smith yet pipped by the American.

    Eric Liddell, in Paris, 100 years ago in 1924 the last male British gold medallist in the 400 metres.

    The biography of Liddell by Duncan Hamilton is well worth a read incidentally. Duncan Hamilton is a great sports writer.
    Local boy.  Also (and maybe @Jessie or others can confirm whether this is true) Eric Liddell is often cited as the first Chinese Track and Field gold medalist at the Olympics. (He was born - and died - in China). 
    I looked him up and while I can't say we consider him as Chinese, we definitely hold him in high regard.👍 However, I don't think many people actually know about him.😅
  • edited August 8
    LenGlover said:
    Chizz said:
    LenGlover said:
    Magnificent run by Hudson-Smith yet pipped by the American.

    Eric Liddell, in Paris, 100 years ago in 1924 the last male British gold medallist in the 400 metres.

    The biography of Liddell by Duncan Hamilton is well worth a read incidentally. Duncan Hamilton is a great sports writer.
    Local boy.  Also (and maybe @Jessie or others can confirm whether this is true) Eric Liddell is often cited as the first Chinese Track and Field gold medalist at the Olympics. (He was born - and died - in China). 
    Educated, with his older brother, at Eltham College. He was also a Scottish rugby international.

    His father was a missionary in China and Eric followed in his footsteps as did other family members.

    Eric Liddell was down to run in the 100 metres( or yards ?) but because the heats were due to be run on a Sunday and with Liddell being a pious man, it was only a team mate swapping over with him that Eric could run in the 400.

    I remember it as if it was yesterday 🧐 

    I have never seen Chariots of fire but do know the film was about Liddell and Harold Abrahams.

    Eric Liddell died in an internment camp of the Japanese.
  • One thing about the 400m, I feel like there's a different set of runners every Olympics, whereas the other events seem to have a lot more of the same faces.

    No one has retained the title since Michael Johnson 24 years ago.

    Is there something about that distance that leads to shorter careers at the very top level?
  • One thing about the 400m, I feel like there's a different set of runners every Olympics, whereas the other events seem to have a lot more of the same faces.

    No one has retained the title since Michael Johnson 24 years ago.

    Is there something about that distance that leads to shorter careers at the very top level?
    its just such a brutal distance that wear and tear is more likely 
  • edited August 8
    With all the events that are going on at the Olympics it begins to really piss me off that the BBC seems to be spending most of the viewing time with the cameras on Gabby Logan and her two co-presenters talking for the sake of it and not showing what’s happening/happened. I start channel hopping as soon as they start now, come back to the BBC some time later and they’d still be talking about/ analysing the same thing. 
  • iaitch said:
    sam3110 said:
    BBC are so frustrating, just endlessly twaddling on about any old shit, meanwhile on Eurosport they are simultaneously showing the men's discus final and the women's pole vault
    And what a great couple of finals they were.

    Kept flicking between Eurosport and BBC, all talk talk talk on the beeb no action. Why do they need three people to discuss things.

    Eurosport have Iuan Thomas who is a good summariser and gives his opinion.
    I have to admit that I find the BBC coverage largely annoyingly jingositic (it's better on the Red Button).

    I get that there are Team GB athletes doing brilliantly (as are many) and that they have reasonable chances of getting medals, but they seem to be too keen to ignore other exceptional stories for endlessly going on in studio discussions about either the potential or the performance of UK athletes.

    Just a bitter Norn Irish man (who cannot get the RTE coverage because it's blocked...  
  • Off_it said:
    Off_it said:
    Similar to Kerr last night, in both races the Americans were brilliant, rather than the Brits throwing it away.
    2 so called favourites for Gold.

    Along with the bikes, the rowers, the clay shooter & the equestrian there have been Gold medals there for the taking & for one reason or another its slipped from our grasp. 

    How much better the medal table would look with 4 or 5 more Golds. 

    (because we all know Gold is everything...😉)
    Do you have to moan about fucking everything? Jesus, you must be so draining to live with.
    Why do you think I was moaning ? I was merely stating a fact. Lots of other posters have commented on all sorts of things & none are told that they are "fucking moaning".

    I think this says more about you than me.
    "so called favourites" ..... zzzzzz
    Wasn't me calling them favourites.....its the BBC commentators etc. Supposedly nailed on Gold for Kerr. 

    Just read Colin Jacksons comment of the womans relay team after winning their heat.....

    " Am I putting a Gold around their necks already "

    Perhaps I should just he a pessimist & expect none of them to win. I'm sure that would make you happier as then you can moan that I'm never positive.

    Cant win on here.



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  • edited August 8

    se9addick said:
    sam3110 said:
    Thailand win the gold in the lightweight Taekwondo, in the middle of the Grand Palais (what an amazing venue btw) but what's the scoring all about? VAR replays to see one girl gently tap her toe on her opponent's headguard
    No one will ever be able to compete with Paris for venues. They’ve won that for eternity. 

    Certainly agree with that, the use of a rugby stadium for the swimming allowed so many more people to watch and create a good atmosphere. The archery was held at the Palace of Versailles and the aerial shot of the range, with the palace in the background was amazing.
    As was the marathon in London the beach volleyball in Horse Guards Parade, the shooting in Thamesmead and the Horse Dancing in Greenwich Park.

    Every Olympics has its iconic venues. Paris matches a long line of amazing hosts.
  • and Lords for the Archery in 2012. 

    Be interesting to see what the venue choices would be for a London 2040 bid, we wouldn't need to do massive builds like 2012, and probably bring in places that have been built since, like the expansion of ExCeL, Tottenham Hotspur Stadium, or not used in 2012 like Royal Albert Hall, etc. 
  • Off_it said:
    Off_it said:
    Similar to Kerr last night, in both races the Americans were brilliant, rather than the Brits throwing it away.
    2 so called favourites for Gold.

    Along with the bikes, the rowers, the clay shooter & the equestrian there have been Gold medals there for the taking & for one reason or another its slipped from our grasp. 

    How much better the medal table would look with 4 or 5 more Golds. 

    (because we all know Gold is everything...😉)
    Do you have to moan about fucking everything? Jesus, you must be so draining to live with.
    Why do you think I was moaning ? I was merely stating a fact. Lots of other posters have commented on all sorts of things & none are told that they are "fucking moaning".

    I think this says more about you than me.
    "so called favourites" ..... zzzzzz
    Wasn't me calling them favourites.....its the BBC commentators etc. Supposedly nailed on Gold for Kerr. 

    Just read Colin Jacksons comment of the womans relay team after winning their heat.....

    " Am I putting a Gold around their necks already "

    Perhaps I should just he a pessimist & expect none of them to win. I'm sure that would make you happier as then you can moan that I'm never positive.

    Cant win on here.



    Just read the same Jackson quote and it wound me up. They need to stop going so OTT and building people up. No chance of the athletes taking notice of it but they just need to tone down the expectations a tad on the BBC. 
  • MrWalker said:

    se9addick said:
    sam3110 said:
    Thailand win the gold in the lightweight Taekwondo, in the middle of the Grand Palais (what an amazing venue btw) but what's the scoring all about? VAR replays to see one girl gently tap her toe on her opponent's headguard
    No one will ever be able to compete with Paris for venues. They’ve won that for eternity. 

    Certainly agree with that, the use of a rugby stadium for the swimming allowed so many more people to watch and create a good atmosphere. The archery was held at the Palace of Versailles and the aerial shot of the range, with the palace in the background was amazing.
    As was the marathon in London the beach volleyball in Horse Guards Parade, the shooting in Thamesmead and the Horse Dancing in Greenwich Park.

    Every Olympics has its iconic venues. Paris matches a long line of amazing hosts.
    The shooting was in Woolwich.
  • MrWalker said:

    se9addick said:
    sam3110 said:
    Thailand win the gold in the lightweight Taekwondo, in the middle of the Grand Palais (what an amazing venue btw) but what's the scoring all about? VAR replays to see one girl gently tap her toe on her opponent's headguard
    No one will ever be able to compete with Paris for venues. They’ve won that for eternity. 

    Certainly agree with that, the use of a rugby stadium for the swimming allowed so many more people to watch and create a good atmosphere. The archery was held at the Palace of Versailles and the aerial shot of the range, with the palace in the background was amazing.
    As was the marathon in London the beach volleyball in Horse Guards Parade, the shooting in Thamesmead and the Horse Dancing in Greenwich Park.

    Every Olympics has its iconic venues. Paris matches a long line of amazing hosts.
    London was great, but let’s not delude ourselves that the backdrops were as incredible as Paris has been.
  • edited August 8
    MrWalker said:

    se9addick said:
    sam3110 said:
    Thailand win the gold in the lightweight Taekwondo, in the middle of the Grand Palais (what an amazing venue btw) but what's the scoring all about? VAR replays to see one girl gently tap her toe on her opponent's headguard
    No one will ever be able to compete with Paris for venues. They’ve won that for eternity. 

    Certainly agree with that, the use of a rugby stadium for the swimming allowed so many more people to watch and create a good atmosphere. The archery was held at the Palace of Versailles and the aerial shot of the range, with the palace in the background was amazing.
    As was the marathon in London the beach volleyball in Horse Guards Parade, the shooting in Thamesmead and the Horse Dancing in Greenwich Park.

    Every Olympics has its iconic venues. Paris matches a long line of amazing hosts.
    The shooting was in Woolwich.
    No, there was definitely a shooting in Thamesmead. 😉

    The backdrop for the shooting competitions was also stunning.
  • se9addick said:
    MrWalker said:

    se9addick said:
    sam3110 said:
    Thailand win the gold in the lightweight Taekwondo, in the middle of the Grand Palais (what an amazing venue btw) but what's the scoring all about? VAR replays to see one girl gently tap her toe on her opponent's headguard
    No one will ever be able to compete with Paris for venues. They’ve won that for eternity. 

    Certainly agree with that, the use of a rugby stadium for the swimming allowed so many more people to watch and create a good atmosphere. The archery was held at the Palace of Versailles and the aerial shot of the range, with the palace in the background was amazing.
    As was the marathon in London the beach volleyball in Horse Guards Parade, the shooting in Thamesmead and the Horse Dancing in Greenwich Park.

    Every Olympics has its iconic venues. Paris matches a long line of amazing hosts.
    London was great, but let’s not delude ourselves that the backdrops were as incredible as Paris has been.
    Why not?
  • se9addick said:
    MrWalker said:

    se9addick said:
    sam3110 said:
    Thailand win the gold in the lightweight Taekwondo, in the middle of the Grand Palais (what an amazing venue btw) but what's the scoring all about? VAR replays to see one girl gently tap her toe on her opponent's headguard
    No one will ever be able to compete with Paris for venues. They’ve won that for eternity. 

    Certainly agree with that, the use of a rugby stadium for the swimming allowed so many more people to watch and create a good atmosphere. The archery was held at the Palace of Versailles and the aerial shot of the range, with the palace in the background was amazing.
    As was the marathon in London the beach volleyball in Horse Guards Parade, the shooting in Thamesmead and the Horse Dancing in Greenwich Park.

    Every Olympics has its iconic venues. Paris matches a long line of amazing hosts.
    London was great, but let’s not delude ourselves that the backdrops were as incredible as Paris has been.
    Different games though, London was in the main a regeneration project, Paris is more about reuse of existing stuff. But London looked amazing in 2012, be it Olympic Park, or the Beach Volley Ball on Horseguards, 
  • As a visitor experience, I think London really benefited from having an Olympic Park, with a lot of the venues within it. While the other venues used were fine, it was really inspiring and enjoyable once inside the Olympic Park, as you felt part of something really big and special. 
  • You can't get into an arms race with Paris on having beautiful old buildings, the advantages of not being bombed in the WW2, Paris is a museum of a city, where London changes and evolves. Paris has been ready to host an Olympics since 1998, it was the whole point of building Stade de France and had grand Olympic Park plans in 2012 in Saint Denis, but that's had to change as that part of the city changed. 
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