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RIP Graham Thorpe
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It is a real horrible event for all concerned, it ruins lives. The loved ones left to grieve and wonder what else the could have done, the train driver and passengers, but also the emergency service personnel required to clean up and ensure the situation is resolved without too much more suffering. If those ending their lives in this way understood all this they probably wouldn't do it, but their despair blinds them to all but a need to no longer be a burden.sunbury-addick said:
As do I, my eldest is a train driver. I believe some have never driven a train again after such an horrific incident.golfaddick said:Committed suicide.
Stepped in front of a train.
I feel for the train driver.5 -
Good job I didnt post what I originally was going to then.Chizz said:You have quite a way with words sometimes, Golfie0 -
It probably is. A man has got to the lowest point possible whilst alive and has taken his own life. RIP Graham.golfaddick said:
Good job I didnt post what I originally was going to then.Chizz said:You have quite a way with words sometimes, Golfie17 -
You really are a wankergolfaddick said:
Good job I didnt post what I originally was going to then.Chizz said:You have quite a way with words sometimes, Golfie10 -
You really can't help yourself can you. You are an attention seeking prick.golfaddick said:
Good job I didnt post what I originally was going to then.Chizz said:You have quite a way with words sometimes, Golfie
RIP Graham11 -
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Quite a lot of drivers involved in suicides don't drive again....often end up working as shunters in railway depots/yards.sunbury-addick said:
As do I, my eldest is a train driver. I believe some have never driven a train again after such an horrific incident.golfaddick said:Committed suicide.
Stepped in front of a train.
I feel for the train driver.3 -
Agreed and well said Clem, I think most reasonable human beings can accept you can feel sorry for everyone involved, yes the train driver who has been involved in a horrific traumatizing event but also the poor soul who saw no other recourse than taking their own life.Clem_Snide said:
You really can't help yourself can you. You are an attention seeking prick.golfaddick said:
Good job I didnt post what I originally was going to then.Chizz said:You have quite a way with words sometimes, Golfie
RIP Graham3 -
Plenty of other ways of taking your own life than to involve others that could then traumatise them.Radostanradical said:
Agreed and well said Clem, I think most reasonable human beings can accept you can feel sorry for everyone involved, yes the train driver who has been involved in a horrific traumatizing event but also the poor soul who saw no other recourse than taking their own life.Clem_Snide said:
You really can't help yourself can you. You are an attention seeking prick.golfaddick said:
Good job I didnt post what I originally was going to then.Chizz said:You have quite a way with words sometimes, Golfie
RIP Graham
But no, we aren't allowed to say that are we.1 -
I don’t want to derail this thread so I will keep it civil, but as someone who has gone through months of therapy and medication after having suicidal thoughts this shows such a deep lack of understanding of mental health issues.golfaddick said:
Plenty of other ways of taking your own life than to involve others that could then traumatise them.Radostanradical said:
Agreed and well said Clem, I think most reasonable human beings can accept you can feel sorry for everyone involved, yes the train driver who has been involved in a horrific traumatizing event but also the poor soul who saw no other recourse than taking their own life.Clem_Snide said:
You really can't help yourself can you. You are an attention seeking prick.golfaddick said:
Good job I didnt post what I originally was going to then.Chizz said:You have quite a way with words sometimes, Golfie
RIP Graham
But no, we aren't allowed to say that are we.
Educate yourself Golfie.11 -
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Sometimes it’s best to just say nothing.golfaddick said:
Plenty of other ways of taking your own life than to involve others that could then traumatise them.Radostanradical said:
Agreed and well said Clem, I think most reasonable human beings can accept you can feel sorry for everyone involved, yes the train driver who has been involved in a horrific traumatizing event but also the poor soul who saw no other recourse than taking their own life.Clem_Snide said:
You really can't help yourself can you. You are an attention seeking prick.golfaddick said:
Good job I didnt post what I originally was going to then.Chizz said:You have quite a way with words sometimes, Golfie
RIP Graham
But no, we aren't allowed to say that are we.8 -
This.FishCostaFortune said:
I don’t want to derail this thread so I will keep it civil, but as someone who has gone through months of therapy and medication after having suicidal thoughts this shows such a deep lack of understanding of mental health issues.golfaddick said:
Plenty of other ways of taking your own life than to involve others that could then traumatise them.Radostanradical said:
Agreed and well said Clem, I think most reasonable human beings can accept you can feel sorry for everyone involved, yes the train driver who has been involved in a horrific traumatizing event but also the poor soul who saw no other recourse than taking their own life.Clem_Snide said:
You really can't help yourself can you. You are an attention seeking prick.golfaddick said:
Good job I didnt post what I originally was going to then.Chizz said:You have quite a way with words sometimes, Golfie
RIP Graham
But no, we aren't allowed to say that are we.
Educate yourself Golfie.
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Just leave it Golfie, this is an RIP thread, show some respect and if you can’t then don’t say anything.golfaddick said:
Plenty of other ways of taking your own life than to involve others that could then traumatise them.Radostanradical said:
Agreed and well said Clem, I think most reasonable human beings can accept you can feel sorry for everyone involved, yes the train driver who has been involved in a horrific traumatizing event but also the poor soul who saw no other recourse than taking their own life.Clem_Snide said:
You really can't help yourself can you. You are an attention seeking prick.golfaddick said:
Good job I didnt post what I originally was going to then.Chizz said:You have quite a way with words sometimes, Golfie
RIP Graham
But no, we aren't allowed to say that are we.8 -
Sadly, I think people who take their own life are in a place that doesn't include an analysis of the different ways to commit suicideArsenetatters said:
This.FishCostaFortune said:
I don’t want to derail this thread so I will keep it civil, but as someone who has gone through months of therapy and medication after having suicidal thoughts this shows such a deep lack of understanding of mental health issues.golfaddick said:
Plenty of other ways of taking your own life than to involve others that could then traumatise them.Radostanradical said:
Agreed and well said Clem, I think most reasonable human beings can accept you can feel sorry for everyone involved, yes the train driver who has been involved in a horrific traumatizing event but also the poor soul who saw no other recourse than taking their own life.Clem_Snide said:
You really can't help yourself can you. You are an attention seeking prick.golfaddick said:
Good job I didnt post what I originally was going to then.Chizz said:You have quite a way with words sometimes, Golfie
RIP Graham
But no, we aren't allowed to say that are we.
Educate yourself Golfie.
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Sorry, you are having a pop at Golfie and you use the term ‘derail’ is a little insensitive, consider the method that Graham unfortunately ended his life.FishCostaFortune said:
I don’t want to derail this thread so I will keep it civil, but as someone who has gone through months of therapy and medication after having suicidal thoughts this shows such a deep lack of understanding of mental health issues.golfaddick said:
Plenty of other ways of taking your own life than to involve others that could then traumatise them.Radostanradical said:
Agreed and well said Clem, I think most reasonable human beings can accept you can feel sorry for everyone involved, yes the train driver who has been involved in a horrific traumatizing event but also the poor soul who saw no other recourse than taking their own life.Clem_Snide said:
You really can't help yourself can you. You are an attention seeking prick.golfaddick said:
Good job I didnt post what I originally was going to then.Chizz said:You have quite a way with words sometimes, Golfie
RIP Graham
But no, we aren't allowed to say that are we.
Educate yourself Golfie.
Incant imagine what people must be going through at at point of being in a position to end it all, and we should all talk about our feelings more often, as the world is a mentally dangerous place.
in my opinion, I kinda agree with Golfie about impacting someone else life, that person that is driving the train has deal with that for the rest of his life, and may lead to mental health issues moving forward. I totally get Thorpe wouldn’t have been thinking straight at that point..
FYI Thorpe is was on of my biggest sporting idols growing up, remember forcing my parents to buy all the same cricket equipment as his.
he was a legend of the game, and by all accounts a good bloke.. but the impact he may have caused an innocent person doesn’t sit well with me personally.Yes maybe this is controversial but this my opinion, and we are entitled to that.0 -
I'm not going to feed the troll, very easy to say these things behind a computer screen.golfaddick said:
Plenty of other ways of taking your own life than to involve others that could then traumatise them.Radostanradical said:
Agreed and well said Clem, I think most reasonable human beings can accept you can feel sorry for everyone involved, yes the train driver who has been involved in a horrific traumatizing event but also the poor soul who saw no other recourse than taking their own life.Clem_Snide said:
You really can't help yourself can you. You are an attention seeking prick.golfaddick said:
Good job I didnt post what I originally was going to then.Chizz said:You have quite a way with words sometimes, Golfie
RIP Graham
But no, we aren't allowed to say that are we.
Cleary questioning why someone not in the right frame of mind wouldn't consider the full implications must be alien to you.
Good luck with your life and i hope whatever part of you is hurting which causes you to say these things for attention heals one day, sincerely.2 -
We are all entitled to our opinions. IMHO an RIP thread is not the place for this.DubaiCAFC said:
Sorry, you are having a pop at Golfie and you use the term ‘derail’ is a little insensitive, consider the method that Graham unfortunately ended his life.FishCostaFortune said:
I don’t want to derail this thread so I will keep it civil, but as someone who has gone through months of therapy and medication after having suicidal thoughts this shows such a deep lack of understanding of mental health issues.golfaddick said:
Plenty of other ways of taking your own life than to involve others that could then traumatise them.Radostanradical said:
Agreed and well said Clem, I think most reasonable human beings can accept you can feel sorry for everyone involved, yes the train driver who has been involved in a horrific traumatizing event but also the poor soul who saw no other recourse than taking their own life.Clem_Snide said:
You really can't help yourself can you. You are an attention seeking prick.golfaddick said:
Good job I didnt post what I originally was going to then.Chizz said:You have quite a way with words sometimes, Golfie
RIP Graham
But no, we aren't allowed to say that are we.
Educate yourself Golfie.
Incant imagine what people must be going through at at point of being in a position to end it all, and we should all talk about our feelings more often, as the world is a mentally dangerous place.
in my opinion, I kinda agree with Golfie about impacting someone else life, that person that is driving the train has deal with that for the rest of his life, and may lead to mental health issues moving forward. I totally get Thorpe wouldn’t have been thinking straight at that point..
FYI Thorpe is was on of my biggest sporting idols growing up, remember forcing my parents to buy all the same cricket equipment as his.
he was a legend of the game, and by all accounts a good bloke.. but the impact he may have caused an innocent person doesn’t sit well with me personally.Yes maybe this is controversial but this my opinion, and we are entitled to that.5 -
Golfaddick is his user name, not Golfie. Calling him Golfie makes him sound like someone’s mate, almost human like.1
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Your opinion is coming from a completely uninformed prospective though, as you yourself say ‘I can’t imagine myself going through something like that’.DubaiCAFC said:
Sorry, you are having a pop at Golfie and you use the term ‘derail’ is a little insensitive, consider the method that Graham unfortunately ended his life.FishCostaFortune said:
I don’t want to derail this thread so I will keep it civil, but as someone who has gone through months of therapy and medication after having suicidal thoughts this shows such a deep lack of understanding of mental health issues.golfaddick said:
Plenty of other ways of taking your own life than to involve others that could then traumatise them.Radostanradical said:
Agreed and well said Clem, I think most reasonable human beings can accept you can feel sorry for everyone involved, yes the train driver who has been involved in a horrific traumatizing event but also the poor soul who saw no other recourse than taking their own life.Clem_Snide said:
You really can't help yourself can you. You are an attention seeking prick.golfaddick said:
Good job I didnt post what I originally was going to then.Chizz said:You have quite a way with words sometimes, Golfie
RIP Graham
But no, we aren't allowed to say that are we.
Educate yourself Golfie.
Incant imagine what people must be going through at at point of being in a position to end it all, and we should all talk about our feelings more often, as the world is a mentally dangerous place.
in my opinion, I kinda agree with Golfie about impacting someone else life, that person that is driving the train has deal with that for the rest of his life, and may lead to mental health issues moving forward. I totally get Thorpe wouldn’t have been thinking straight at that point..
FYI Thorpe is was on of my biggest sporting idols growing up, remember forcing my parents to buy all the same cricket equipment as his.
he was a legend of the game, and by all accounts a good bloke.. but the impact he may have caused an innocent person doesn’t sit well with me personally.Yes maybe this is controversial but this my opinion, and we are entitled to that.
You have absolutely zero fucking idea what it’s like. Last summer I spent days curled up on the bathroom floor, unable to do anything - but try and survive until the night time where I might get a few hours of sleep if I was lucky.
To then spend those night time hours awake feeling so desperate, and so hopeless, that the thoughts circling around my head were focusing on the ways that I wanted to kill myself and how my family, and friends would react if did.
To go through it all again the next day.No one is debating the profound affect it may have on that driver, and hopefully he will get the appropriate support.
But to frame the argument as ‘there’s plenty of ways you can kill yourself’ and then for you to try and justify that with some thought piece around opinions and have a go at me at the same time for a term I used is disgusting.Educate yourself.15 -
Sorry, I apologise.Arsenetatters said:
Just leave it Golfie, this is an RIP thread, show some respect and if you can’t then don’t say anything.golfaddick said:
Plenty of other ways of taking your own life than to involve others that could then traumatise them.Radostanradical said:
Agreed and well said Clem, I think most reasonable human beings can accept you can feel sorry for everyone involved, yes the train driver who has been involved in a horrific traumatizing event but also the poor soul who saw no other recourse than taking their own life.Clem_Snide said:
You really can't help yourself can you. You are an attention seeking prick.golfaddick said:
Good job I didnt post what I originally was going to then.Chizz said:You have quite a way with words sometimes, Golfie
RIP Graham
But no, we aren't allowed to say that are we.8 -
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‘I can’t believe what people are going through’DubaiCAFC said:
Sorry, you are having a pop at Golfie and you use the term ‘derail’ is a little insensitive, consider the method that Graham unfortunately ended his life.FishCostaFortune said:
I don’t want to derail this thread so I will keep it civil, but as someone who has gone through months of therapy and medication after having suicidal thoughts this shows such a deep lack of understanding of mental health issues.golfaddick said:
Plenty of other ways of taking your own life than to involve others that could then traumatise them.Radostanradical said:
Agreed and well said Clem, I think most reasonable human beings can accept you can feel sorry for everyone involved, yes the train driver who has been involved in a horrific traumatizing event but also the poor soul who saw no other recourse than taking their own life.Clem_Snide said:
You really can't help yourself can you. You are an attention seeking prick.golfaddick said:
Good job I didnt post what I originally was going to then.Chizz said:You have quite a way with words sometimes, Golfie
RIP Graham
But no, we aren't allowed to say that are we.
Educate yourself Golfie.
Incant imagine what people must be going through at at point of being in a position to end it all, and we should all talk about our feelings more often, as the world is a mentally dangerous place.
in my opinion, I kinda agree with Golfie about impacting someone else life, that person that is driving the train has deal with that for the rest of his life, and may lead to mental health issues moving forward. I totally get Thorpe wouldn’t have been thinking straight at that point..
FYI Thorpe is was on of my biggest sporting idols growing up, remember forcing my parents to buy all the same cricket equipment as his.
he was a legend of the game, and by all accounts a good bloke.. but the impact he may have caused an innocent person doesn’t sit well with me personally.Yes maybe this is controversial but this my opinion, and we are entitled to that.
‘I totally get Thorpe wouldn’t have been thinking straight at that point.’
The rest is waffle…
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RIP threads are precisely that. I think the Mods ought to ensure they don't go off piste.I think there is a separate thread for mental illness .
Nothing more to be said RIP Graham1 -
back on topic, thought the ECB done their tribute to him nicely this morning.5
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Agreed - a few more tears from me. A few of them; Joe Root and Nasser Hussain visibly upsetJohnBoyUK said:back on topic, thought the ECB done their tribute to him nicely this morning.0 -
thank you Golfie my sentiments exactly but not brave enough to writegolfaddick said:Committed suicide.
Stepped in front of a train.
I feel for the train driver.0 -
Many other people are affected by this but it is an RIP thread. If you want to discuss the wider aspects, then there is at least one thread on mental health. Or start another onelancashire lad said:
thank you Golfie my sentiments exactly but not brave enough to writegolfaddick said:Committed suicide.
Stepped in front of a train.
I feel for the train driver.1 -
Just listened to the TMS tribute.JohnBoyUK said:back on topic, thought the ECB done their tribute to him nicely this morning.
Class from the beeb.0 -
Of course you can say it,but it also shows a lack of understanding of the mind set of someone about to commit suicide. My best friend survived at least one suicide attempt before successfully throwing himself from the top of a multistory car park in Reading. Was he being selfish as someone would have to clear up the mess of his smashed body or was he so depressed that put him in a dark place which completely enveloped him and halted any reasonable thought processes?golfaddick said:
Plenty of other ways of taking your own life than to involve others that could then traumatise them.Radostanradical said:
Agreed and well said Clem, I think most reasonable human beings can accept you can feel sorry for everyone involved, yes the train driver who has been involved in a horrific traumatizing event but also the poor soul who saw no other recourse than taking their own life.Clem_Snide said:
You really can't help yourself can you. You are an attention seeking prick.golfaddick said:
Good job I didnt post what I originally was going to then.Chizz said:You have quite a way with words sometimes, Golfie
RIP Graham
But no, we aren't allowed to say that are we.
And of course everyone will feel for the train driver and others that had to clear up after the event.5 -
Of course.. more my points the other day, which prob didn't come across correctly, is the knock-on effect it has, the train driver could go into depression and could also question life as well post it...Kap10 said:
Of course you can say it,but it also shows a lack of understanding of the mind set of someone about to commit suicide. My best friend survived at least one suicide attempt before successfully throwing himself from the top of a multistory car park in Reading. Was he being selfish as someone would have to clear up the mess of his smashed body or was he so depressed that put him in a dark place which completely enveloped him and halted any reasonable thought processes?golfaddick said:
Plenty of other ways of taking your own life than to involve others that could then traumatise them.Radostanradical said:
Agreed and well said Clem, I think most reasonable human beings can accept you can feel sorry for everyone involved, yes the train driver who has been involved in a horrific traumatizing event but also the poor soul who saw no other recourse than taking their own life.Clem_Snide said:
You really can't help yourself can you. You are an attention seeking prick.golfaddick said:
Good job I didnt post what I originally was going to then.Chizz said:You have quite a way with words sometimes, Golfie
RIP Graham
But no, we aren't allowed to say that are we.
And of course everyone will feel for the train driver and others that had to clear up after the event.
But as I said, and people have said on here, people are not thinking at that point!
Thorpe was a legend, and my idol growing up. And Skysports on the coverage yesterday, did a wonderful tribute and the statements from the family were so strong!
RIP.2
