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  • cafcnick1992
    cafcnick1992 Posts: 7,677
    edited February 5
    They broke the back of a police officer with a sledgehammer? Why are we celebrating this?
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,529
    Whatever the right's or wrongs of that particular case, or any others for that matter, please remember that the purpose of this thread is for a bit of light-hearted grumbling rather than serious issues of our time. 

    With that in mind, why do all the wire and USB leads on my desk look like a set of overlong Christmas lights after a year in the loft and a week in a cement mixer? 
  • Rizzo
    Rizzo Posts: 6,509
    cafcnick1992 said:
    They broke the back of a police officer with a sledgehammer? Why are we celebrating this?
    One of them was charged with causing grievous bodily harm with intent for that. The jury was unable to reach a verdict on this charge and the accused remains in custody awaiting a potential retrial. 

    The issue here is that certain judges (most notably Christopher Hehir) in cases over the last few years, have ruled that defendants cannot bring up any evidence (or in some cases, even mention) their reasons for carrying out the actions of which they are accused. There is a defence in law of “lawful excuse”. If a jury believes that criminal damage caused by the defendants was designed to prevent the commission of a far graver crime – in this case genocide - they are entitled to deliver a verdict of not guilty. By ruling that, for unspecified reasons, this defence was not available for these charges, the judge has effectively directed the jury to convict, which he is expressly forbidden to do. Bushel's case established the right of a jury to deliver a not guilty verdict according to their convictions and conscience and the jury was reminded of that outside the court, despite the best efforts of the authorities to remove such reminders. 

    This case has elements of violence attached but there are many other cases, think Just Stop Oil, that are entirely peaceful and non-violent that have been subject to similar judicial action. 

    Regardless of your belief in the rights and wrongs of a case, the fact that judges are unilaterally deciding whether or not you can rely on a lawful excuse defence should be extremely concerning, especially given the current efforts to limit trial by jury. The jury is the last line of defence in such cases. 




  • letthegoodtimesroll
    letthegoodtimesroll Posts: 11,082
    edited February 5
    Rizzo said:
    Karim_myBagheri said:
    guinnessaddick said:
    Karim_myBagheri said:
    Stig said:
    Karim_myBagheri said:
    My neighbours have replaced the fence that got blown over a few weeks back. Glad they did it its just annoying that the people they hired to do the job just chucked a bunch of the old fence into my garden and left it there for me, I guess, to deal with.
    so now i got a load of it to dispose of and I know full well my council wont accept it so it means getting a friend to come over and helping to get rid of it. I could burn it but its wet and my garden is quite small and i've never had a bonfire in it before. Like i said it's just annoying. 
    Can't you just ask your neighbours to take their fence away?
    i barely know them tbh and i would find it all a bit awkward. i can deal with people up to a point but they are very formal and i find it hard to talk to them. They have done the fence and it seems a bit much for me to start going on about them picking up a bunch of trellises/fenceing and ivy that was plonked on to my garden/hedge, the contractors did take most of it away but they did leave a fair bit. I need to get rid of it as i cant have a pile of it in my garden but with no transport that's hard to do. 
    Whose fence is it? As they replaced it, it would suggest it’s theirs and therefore it’s for them to deal with.
    it's theirs. I'm so useless at this kind of thing. I'm a kinda person who just wants to be left alone. Still, step up and all that... going over there later to ask is there any chance they could get hold of the contractor to finish their job and get rid of the pile of trellis and ivy they have left which i now have piled up in the garden. 

    Hopefully it goes alright and thanks for those who have advised on here. 
    Just go out one night and chuck the whole lot over the fence. Their problem, not yours!
    The fence and ivy is their property, not yours. 
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    letthegoodtimesroll Posts: 11,082




  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,955
    Not sure if anyone else has experienced this - although I’m surprised they haven’t, as it seems to happen every time I’m at a petrol station since returning to the UK - but when someone parks at a petrol pump just to buy bits from the shop, even though theres plenty of parking spaces available for that very reason. I've seen people leave their cars at a pump while they virtually do a weeks shop in the mini-supermaket, and had a muck-away lorry parked in the middle of a forecourt near Heathrow the other morning, blocking four pumps while the driver sorted himself a farkin coffee out. And it weren't like there weren't plenty of space nearby for him to pull up.
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 14,159
    Gribbo said:
    Not sure if anyone else has experienced this - although I’m surprised they haven’t, as it seems to happen every time I’m at a petrol station since returning to the UK - but when someone parks at a petrol pump just to buy bits from the shop, even though theres plenty of parking spaces available for that very reason. I've seen people leave their cars at a pump while they virtually do a weeks shop in the mini-supermaket, and had a muck-away lorry parked in the middle of a forecourt near Heathrow the other morning, blocking four pumps while the driver sorted himself a farkin coffee out. And it weren't like there weren't plenty of space nearby for him to pull up.
    Without buying any petrol or after petrol but not moving out the way!
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 27,174
    Gribbo said:
    Not sure if anyone else has experienced this - although I’m surprised they haven’t, as it seems to happen every time I’m at a petrol station since returning to the UK - but when someone parks at a petrol pump just to buy bits from the shop, even though theres plenty of parking spaces available for that very reason. I've seen people leave their cars at a pump while they virtually do a weeks shop in the mini-supermaket, and had a muck-away lorry parked in the middle of a forecourt near Heathrow the other morning, blocking four pumps while the driver sorted himself a farkin coffee out. And it weren't like there weren't plenty of space nearby for him to pull up.
    Is a farkin coffee a bit like an Americano with milk?
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,955
    edited February 7
    Alwaysneil said:
    Gribbo said:
    Not sure if anyone else has experienced this - although I’m surprised they haven’t, as it seems to happen every time I’m at a petrol station since returning to the UK - but when someone parks at a petrol pump just to buy bits from the shop, even though theres plenty of parking spaces available for that very reason. I've seen people leave their cars at a pump while they virtually do a weeks shop in the mini-supermaket, and had a muck-away lorry parked in the middle of a forecourt near Heathrow the other morning, blocking four pumps while the driver sorted himself a farkin coffee out. And it weren't like there weren't plenty of space nearby for him to pull up.
    Without buying any petrol or after petrol but not moving out the way!
    Without buying fuel - Literally pull up at a pump, lock the motor and walk into the shop
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 14,159
    Gribbo said:
    Alwaysneil said:
    Gribbo said:
    Not sure if anyone else has experienced this - although I’m surprised they haven’t, as it seems to happen every time I’m at a petrol station since returning to the UK - but when someone parks at a petrol pump just to buy bits from the shop, even though theres plenty of parking spaces available for that very reason. I've seen people leave their cars at a pump while they virtually do a weeks shop in the mini-supermaket, and had a muck-away lorry parked in the middle of a forecourt near Heathrow the other morning, blocking four pumps while the driver sorted himself a farkin coffee out. And it weren't like there weren't plenty of space nearby for him to pull up.
    Without buying any petrol or after petrol but not moving out the way!
    Without buying fuel - Literally pull up at a pump, lock the motor and walk into the shop
    That would wind me up a lot and i have not seen it fortunately or would be tempted to have a word or potentially gently reverse io to their front bumper and then push them out the way backwards with the tow bar

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  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,955
    Alwaysneil said:
    Gribbo said:
    Alwaysneil said:
    Gribbo said:
    Not sure if anyone else has experienced this - although I’m surprised they haven’t, as it seems to happen every time I’m at a petrol station since returning to the UK - but when someone parks at a petrol pump just to buy bits from the shop, even though theres plenty of parking spaces available for that very reason. I've seen people leave their cars at a pump while they virtually do a weeks shop in the mini-supermaket, and had a muck-away lorry parked in the middle of a forecourt near Heathrow the other morning, blocking four pumps while the driver sorted himself a farkin coffee out. And it weren't like there weren't plenty of space nearby for him to pull up.
    Without buying any petrol or after petrol but not moving out the way!
    Without buying fuel - Literally pull up at a pump, lock the motor and walk into the shop
    That would wind me up a lot and i have not seen it fortunately or would be tempted to have a word or potentially gently reverse io to their front bumper and then push them out the way backwards with the tow bar
    Yeah, I’m in them once or twice a week at the moment and always seeing it. It’s obviously worse in petrol stations that have an M&S or Waitrose, or probably even worse than that, Subway and Greggs as part of the shop - but you do still get it at the smaller places
  • Raith_C_Chattonell
    Raith_C_Chattonell Posts: 5,862
    Cyclists on dark, rainy nights without lights, no hi viz and quite commonly touching 30 MPH with a large box strapped to their backs.
  • SporadicAddick
    SporadicAddick Posts: 7,178
    Raith_C_Chattonell said:
    Cyclists on dark, rainy nights without lights, no hi viz and quite commonly touching 30 MPH with a large box strapped to their backs.
    I thought I saw that once, but it was actually my neighbour’s tortoise.
    .
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 14,159
    SporadicAddick said:
    Raith_C_Chattonell said:
    Cyclists on dark, rainy nights without lights, no hi viz and quite commonly touching 30 MPH with a large box strapped to their backs.
    I thought I saw that once, but it was actually my neighbour’s tortoise.
    .
    On a push bike? People would pay good money to see that. 
  • SporadicAddick
    SporadicAddick Posts: 7,178
    Alwaysneil said:
    SporadicAddick said:
    Raith_C_Chattonell said:
    Cyclists on dark, rainy nights without lights, no hi viz and quite commonly touching 30 MPH with a large box strapped to their backs.
    I thought I saw that once, but it was actually my neighbour’s tortoise.
    .
    On a push bike? People would pay good money to see that. 
    I don't know if it was on a pushbike, it was dark.
  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,470
    SuedeAdidas said:
    When people read out their mobile phone number with a weird cadence. 

    I always expect a mobile phone number to be read out like….

    12345 / 123 / 123

    My brain goes into shock if it’s not read out this way and have to get them to repeat it a time or two. 
    Mobile numbers in Portugal are nine digits, so 123 456 789 feels like the logical way to read it. But not for my native chums, for some reason its 12 3456789. 
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,529
    I think the French have got phone numbers down to an art form. Theirs are spoken as pairs of digits. This is the most efficient way of using our working memory as most people can remember most double digit numbers as a single bit of information. Once you step it up a notch it gets far more wasteful; most people remember most three digit numbers as three separate bits of information. Then again, given that they are dealing with a language whose numbers have such clumsy names as soixante-dix-huit and quatre-vingt-dix-neuf, perhaps they have more need to optimise their phone numbers.
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 18,036
    edited February 9
    Kebab shops that say they're cash only, yet are taking orders through UberEats and Deliveroo.
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 29,582
    Chunes said:
    Kebab shops that say they're cash only, yet are taking orders through UberEats and Deliveroo.
    They have to show something going through the books.
  • Masterbrew
    Masterbrew Posts: 307
    Radio 4 relentlessly banging on about Peter Mandelson and whether Keir Starmer should go. OK, we get it - Starmer made a bad appointment and Mandelson is dodgy - but a whole hour spent talking about it, asking people their opinions, asking other people their opinions about the opinions, Nick Robinson and Sarah Montague hectoring and talking down to whoever they are interviewing (or lecturing to) incessantly, is just tedious. News presenters should stick to telling the news, not trying to be it.

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  • cafcnick1992
    cafcnick1992 Posts: 7,677
    Masterbrew said:
    Radio 4 relentlessly banging on about Peter Mandelson and whether Keir Starmer should go. OK, we get it - Starmer made a bad appointment and Mandelson is dodgy - but a whole hour spent talking about it, asking people their opinions, asking other people their opinions about the opinions, Nick Robinson and Sarah Montague hectoring and talking down to whoever they are interviewing (or lecturing to) incessantly, is just tedious. News presenters should stick to telling the news, not trying to be it.
    I think Evan Davis is very good at relaying news stories and covering all angles of a story in a way that is impartisan on the PM show.

    Agree with you on Nick Robinson - always trying to create a story. You'd think he might calm down after that ridiculous tweet he sent out following the shootings in Sydney.
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,529
    The Google logo done Winter Olympic style. It's an assault on the eyes.
  • Arsenetatters
    Arsenetatters Posts: 6,183
    Items that no longer come with a good old paper booklet manual. Instead they assume you can make your way around the internet and actually enjoy reading stuff off a small screen. 

  • gringo
    gringo Posts: 876
    Arsenetatters said:
    Items that no longer come with a good old paper booklet manual. Instead they assume you can make your way around the internet and actually enjoy reading stuff off a small screen. 

    you should have seen me trying to work out how all the bloody gadgets and systems worked on the New Hybrid without a manual. Mind you it would have been the size of the old SE London telephone book.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 33,424
    Footballers that wear gloves, pussies.
  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,915
    LargeAddick said:
    Footballers that wear gloves, pussies.
    But ok if they wear them on their hands?
  • IdleHans
    IdleHans Posts: 11,240
    ..
    LargeAddick said:
    Footballers that wear gloves, pussies.

    just the two things then?
  • ME14addick
    ME14addick Posts: 9,874
    Masterbrew said:
    Radio 4 relentlessly banging on about Peter Mandelson and whether Keir Starmer should go. OK, we get it - Starmer made a bad appointment and Mandelson is dodgy - but a whole hour spent talking about it, asking people their opinions, asking other people their opinions about the opinions, Nick Robinson and Sarah Montague hectoring and talking down to whoever they are interviewing (or lecturing to) incessantly, is just tedious. News presenters should stick to telling the news, not trying to be it.
    BBC Breakfast having Jon Kaye standing in Downing Street for no good reason. It was a real hatchet job by the BBC this morning.
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,955
    DaveMehmet said:
    LargeAddick said:
    Footballers that wear gloves, pussies.
    But ok if they wear them on their hands?
    Reminds me of a bird from top of Charlton years ag; Five Finger Belinda
  • SporadicAddick
    SporadicAddick Posts: 7,178
    ME14addick said:
     Masterbrew said:
    Radio 4 relentlessly banging on about Peter Mandelson and whether Keir Starmer should go. OK, we get it - Starmer made a bad appointment and Mandelson is dodgy - but a whole hour spent talking about it, asking people their opinions, asking other people their opinions about the opinions, Nick Robinson and Sarah Montague hectoring and talking down to whoever they are interviewing (or lecturing to) incessantly, is just tedious. News presenters should stick to telling the news, not trying to be it.
    BBC Breakfast having Jon Kaye standing in Downing Street for no good reason. It was a real hatchet job by the BBC this morning.
    Not a political post - an observation in response to a post.

    The day after one of the most senior members of the governing party calls for his leader, the Prime Minister, to resign, and you believe there is no good reason for the country’s public service broadcaster to be outside the residence of said Prime Minister.

    Indeed, you think it is the broadcaster doing the hatchet job, rather than the senior member calling for his leaders resignation.

    An interesting spin.

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