BBC News sending their main newsreader to report from a place that already has a reporter in place.
Clive Myrie tonight reporting about the LA fires in LA. The cost of sending him over there is ridiculous and presumably he is taking up accommodation that people who have lost their homes could use.
The greater Los Angeles area has 98,000 hotel rooms. Presumably there's enough space for Myrie. Absolutely right that perhaps the most trusted independent news source globally reports from the scene of the biggest global story with its most senior reporters. Should Myrie also have stayed away from Kiev in early 2022? It may well be the case that he is due in the US anyway for the presidential inauguration, although that's an assumption on my part.
Good to see Myrie in Washington for the inauguration.
You have deliberately tried to mix 2 different issues - the MAIN point about going to LA was it was when the fires were raging and attention was needed on containing the fires etc. The relevant observation being we had reporters there and posting more people added no obvious value and was possibly an inconvenience.
What I find amusing now (and possibly beyond any broadcasters control) is the commentators all on outside balconies looking absolutely frozen - no need to be at that specific location when the weather turns to broadcast overnight in the US for a breakfast audience in the UK !
Correct, I did deliberately mix two "issues" (?).
The moan was that he didn't need to be there for the fires, I pointed out that he was likely in the US anyway for the inauguration and therefore no issue with one of the BBCs chief reporters killing two birds with one stone.
Doesn’t really hold water in my opinion.
Anyway what do you think about the broadcasters being ‘outside’’ in these temperatures! - that’s annoying / amusing too.
Not sure if it annoyed me or amused me but being spat at by a deliveroo cyclist only to see it run down his chin.
Oh no, I've now got the horrible image of him wiping his chin with his hand before delving down some quilted bag to hand-deliver some undiscerning chump an extortionately priced slice of warm dough.
I wonder what hygiene procedures they have at Deliveroo? My bet is that it's about the same level as their road safety procedures.
Cyclists that think it’s OK to go out on a grey day wearing grey and having no lights on.
I was driving down ‘death hill’ near Brands Hatch and spotted a grey blob in the distance. Just as well I don’t drive as fast as some of the Nutters do round there.
Then in complete contrast I turn off the Hill and spot a cyclist with a flashing red light on the back of the bike. Much easier to see. However Mr Tatters, a stickler for the Highway Code, tells me flashing lights are not legal.
Not sure if it annoyed me or amused me but being spat at by a deliveroo cyclist only to see it run down his chin.
Oh no, I've now got the horrible image of him wiping his chin with his hand before delving down some quilted bag to hand-deliver some undiscerning chump an extortionately priced slice of warm dough.
I wonder what hygiene procedures they have at Deliveroo? My bet is that it's about the same level as their road safety procedures.
I'm sure their hygiene procedures are all above board.
Not sure if it annoyed me or amused me but being spat at by a deliveroo cyclist only to see it run down his chin.
Oh no, I've now got the horrible image of him wiping his chin with his hand before delving down some quilted bag to hand-deliver some undiscerning chump an extortionately priced slice of warm dough.
I wonder what hygiene procedures they have at Deliveroo? My bet is that it's about the same level as their road safety procedures.
I'm sure their hygiene procedures are all above board.
Cyclists that think it’s OK to go out on a grey day wearing grey and having no lights on.
I was driving down ‘death hill’ near Brands Hatch and spotted a grey blob in the distance. Just as well I don’t drive as fast as some of the Nutters do round there.
Then in complete contrast I turn off the Hill and spot a cyclist with a flashing red light on the back of the bike. Much easier to see. However Mr Tatters, a stickler for the Highway Code, tells me flashing lights are not legal.
Not sure if it annoyed me or amused me but being spat at by a deliveroo cyclist only to see it run down his chin.
Oh no, I've now got the horrible image of him wiping his chin with his hand before delving down some quilted bag to hand-deliver some undiscerning chump an extortionately priced slice of warm dough.
I wonder what hygiene procedures they have at Deliveroo? My bet is that it's about the same level as their road safety procedures.
I'm sure their hygiene procedures are all above board.
Cyclists that think it’s OK to go out on a grey day wearing grey and having no lights on.
I was driving down ‘death hill’ near Brands Hatch and spotted a grey blob in the distance. Just as well I don’t drive as fast as some of the Nutters do round there.
Then in complete contrast I turn off the Hill and spot a cyclist with a flashing red light on the back of the bike. Much easier to see. However Mr Tatters, a stickler for the Highway Code, tells me flashing lights are not legal.
Cyclists that think it’s OK to go out on a grey day wearing grey and having no lights on.
I was driving down ‘death hill’ near Brands Hatch and spotted a grey blob in the distance. Just as well I don’t drive as fast as some of the Nutters do round there.
Then in complete contrast I turn off the Hill and spot a cyclist with a flashing red light on the back of the bike. Much easier to see. However Mr Tatters, a stickler for the Highway Code, tells me flashing lights are not legal.
One thing that really gets my goat now is Facebook and the feed.
I've used Facebook for years to keep in touch with family and friends but the amount of absolute utter crap on the feed now is beyond ridiculous. Why am I seeing posts from pages I dont even follow?
Having googled, the only way is to go into every single post and block or delete your account all together.
I'm finding myself using Facebook less and less purely because of this.
And its the exact same thing for my Business Facebook page.
Drives me absolutely nuts.
EDIT >> and even if you feel all determined and spend 30-60mins blocking or hiding the shit, the feed just feels up with even more crap.
This has bothered me for a while too. Facebook’s become so boring and repetitive now and I wasn’t getting much benefit from it - I had old friends on there, but in all honesty, I never planned to meet them in person again. Life moves on and I’ve moved on.
I deleted my fb account a week or two ago. Haven’t missed it. 👍🏼
One thing that really gets my goat now is Facebook and the feed.
I've used Facebook for years to keep in touch with family and friends but the amount of absolute utter crap on the feed now is beyond ridiculous. Why am I seeing posts from pages I dont even follow?
Having googled, the only way is to go into every single post and block or delete your account all together.
I'm finding myself using Facebook less and less purely because of this.
And its the exact same thing for my Business Facebook page.
Drives me absolutely nuts.
EDIT >> and even if you feel all determined and spend 30-60mins blocking or hiding the shit, the feed just feels up with even more crap.
This has bothered me for a while too. Facebook’s become so boring and repetitive now and I wasn’t getting much benefit from it - I had old friends on there, but in all honesty, I never planned to meet them in person again. Life moves on and I’ve moved on.
I deleted my fb account a week or two ago. Haven’t missed it. 👍🏼
Literally feel like I'm using it as an old photo album now, not adding anything new but it's on there for old stuff.
It's crazy that it's gone from the odd advert between friend's posts or group posts to about 90% ads and 'suggested' content.
Social media in general is just pretty awful there days and it's a shame as it did used to be decent.
One thing that really gets my goat now is Facebook and the feed.
I've used Facebook for years to keep in touch with family and friends but the amount of absolute utter crap on the feed now is beyond ridiculous. Why am I seeing posts from pages I dont even follow?
Having googled, the only way is to go into every single post and block or delete your account all together.
I'm finding myself using Facebook less and less purely because of this.
And its the exact same thing for my Business Facebook page.
Drives me absolutely nuts.
EDIT >> and even if you feel all determined and spend 30-60mins blocking or hiding the shit, the feed just feels up with even more crap.
This has bothered me for a while too. Facebook’s become so boring and repetitive now and I wasn’t getting much benefit from it - I had old friends on there, but in all honesty, I never planned to meet them in person again. Life moves on and I’ve moved on.
I deleted my fb account a week or two ago. Haven’t missed it. 👍🏼
Literally feel like I'm using it as an old photo album now, not adding anything new but it's on there for old stuff.
It's crazy that it's gone from the odd advert between friend's posts or group posts to about 90% ads and 'suggested' content.
Social media in general is just pretty awful there days and it's a shame as it did used to be decent.
Overnight my feed has suddenly become inundated with anti-Trump stuff. Don't get me wrong, I am on their side, but it's weird how it has happened so quickly (I haven't posted anything about him myself) and it's a bit dull.
One thing that really gets my goat now is Facebook and the feed.
I've used Facebook for years to keep in touch with family and friends but the amount of absolute utter crap on the feed now is beyond ridiculous. Why am I seeing posts from pages I dont even follow?
Having googled, the only way is to go into every single post and block or delete your account all together.
I'm finding myself using Facebook less and less purely because of this.
And its the exact same thing for my Business Facebook page.
Drives me absolutely nuts.
EDIT >> and even if you feel all determined and spend 30-60mins blocking or hiding the shit, the feed just feels up with even more crap.
This has bothered me for a while too. Facebook’s become so boring and repetitive now and I wasn’t getting much benefit from it - I had old friends on there, but in all honesty, I never planned to meet them in person again. Life moves on and I’ve moved on.
I deleted my fb account a week or two ago. Haven’t missed it. 👍🏼
Literally feel like I'm using it as an old photo album now, not adding anything new but it's on there for old stuff.
It's crazy that it's gone from the odd advert between friend's posts or group posts to about 90% ads and 'suggested' content.
Social media in general is just pretty awful there days and it's a shame as it did used to be decent.
Overnight my feed has suddenly become inundated with anti-Trump stuff. Don't get me wrong, I am on their side, but it's weird how it has happened so quickly (I haven't posted anything about him myself) and it's a bit dull.
The priority given to deliveroo and other delivery drivers in shops, in this case a small Sainsbury's.
I make the effort of walking to the shop. Whilst in there I have shop assistants dodging about the aisles fulfilling the latest order for someone.
I get to the register and they are still bagging up the online shopping. They then come over to serve the customer in front of me but before they have a chance a delivery driver comes in with a motorbike helmet on standing there not saying a word but waving his phone around which I can only presume is code for 'I'm here to pick up an order' to which the shop assistant then rushes off to find his order before serving the customers in front of her.
I tell the driver to wait in the queue as we were here first. He stares at me 'no comprende' like and ushers the girl to hurry up. Bloke can barely speak English it turns out. I say no you have to wait. Again that absent look on his face from behind the helmet. Eventually another shop assistant came over and got him his prescious cargo to be delivered to someone who may or may not be able to go to the shop themselves. Myself and others however don't have that luxury so we are out there on the front line dealing with this kind of shit.
The priority given to deliveroo and other delivery drivers in shops, in this case a small Sainsbury's.
I make the effort of walking to the shop. Whilst in there I have shop assistants dodging about the aisles fulfilling the latest order for someone.
I get to the register and they are still bagging up the online shopping. They then come over to serve the customer in front of me but before they have a chance a delivery driver comes in with a motorbike helmet on standing there not saying a word but waving his phone around which I can only presume is code for 'I'm here to pick up an order' to which the shop assistant then rushes off to find his order before serving the customers in front of her.
I tell the driver to wait in the queue as we were here first. He stares at me 'no comprende' like and ushers the girl to hurry up. Bloke can barely speak English it turns out. I say no you have to wait. Again that absent look on his face from behind the helmet. Eventually another shop assistant came over and got him his prescious cargo to be delivered to someone who may or may not be able to go to the shop themselves. Myself and others however don't have that luxury so we are out there on the front line dealing with this kind of shit.
I agree.
The defence will be the customer paid extra for this and hence can queue jump I suppose. I don’t like it either.
The further annoyance is when I read the ‘climate change’ thread about emissions and poor corporate behaviour but we have a whole new generation of people who think it’s ok to have small orders delivered at will and not walk to the shop and have the minor ‘inconvenience’’ of doing so.
The priority given to deliveroo and other delivery drivers in shops, in this case a small Sainsbury's.
I make the effort of walking to the shop. Whilst in there I have shop assistants dodging about the aisles fulfilling the latest order for someone.
I get to the register and they are still bagging up the online shopping. They then come over to serve the customer in front of me but before they have a chance a delivery driver comes in with a motorbike helmet on standing there not saying a word but waving his phone around which I can only presume is code for 'I'm here to pick up an order' to which the shop assistant then rushes off to find his order before serving the customers in front of her.
I tell the driver to wait in the queue as we were here first. He stares at me 'no comprende' like and ushers the girl to hurry up. Bloke can barely speak English it turns out. I say no you have to wait. Again that absent look on his face from behind the helmet. Eventually another shop assistant came over and got him his prescious cargo to be delivered to someone who may or may not be able to go to the shop themselves. Myself and others however don't have that luxury so we are out there on the front line dealing with this kind of shit.
I agree.
The defence will be the customer paid extra for this and hence can queue jump I suppose. I don’t like it either.
The further annoyance is when I read the ‘climate change’ thread about emissions and poor corporate behaviour but we have a whole new generation of people who think it’s ok to have small orders delivered at will and not walk to the shop and have the minor ‘inconvenience’’ of doing so.
How have those two things got anything to do with each other?
Celebrity telly generally, but it's getting worse as they all seem to be dragging various relatives in to dip their snouts in the trough. The perennially irritating Jack Whitehall and his old man, Matt Baker swanning about with his parents, Stacey Solomon roping in her husband, kids, sister, granny to do some crappy Christmas crafting nonsense. Will it ever end?
No it won't. The talent vacuum that is Alison Hammond now getting a paid holiday in Florida (before it sinks) with her son Aidan.
When lots of things break or reach the end of their useful life at the same time. This month: Fridge freezer, tumble dryer, dehumidifier and saucepan set. Arrrghhhh!
When lots of things break or reach the end of their useful life at the same time. This month: Fridge freezer, tumble dryer, dehumidifier and saucepan set. Arrrghhhh!
Look on the bright side: if you're not cooking and tumble drying you probably won't need the dehumidifier
The priority given to deliveroo and other delivery drivers in shops, in this case a small Sainsbury's.
I make the effort of walking to the shop. Whilst in there I have shop assistants dodging about the aisles fulfilling the latest order for someone.
I get to the register and they are still bagging up the online shopping. They then come over to serve the customer in front of me but before they have a chance a delivery driver comes in with a motorbike helmet on standing there not saying a word but waving his phone around which I can only presume is code for 'I'm here to pick up an order' to which the shop assistant then rushes off to find his order before serving the customers in front of her.
I tell the driver to wait in the queue as we were here first. He stares at me 'no comprende' like and ushers the girl to hurry up. Bloke can barely speak English it turns out. I say no you have to wait. Again that absent look on his face from behind the helmet. Eventually another shop assistant came over and got him his prescious cargo to be delivered to someone who may or may not be able to go to the shop themselves. Myself and others however don't have that luxury so we are out there on the front line dealing with this kind of shit.
I agree.
The defence will be the customer paid extra for this and hence can queue jump I suppose. I don’t like it either.
The further annoyance is when I read the ‘climate change’ thread about emissions and poor corporate behaviour but we have a whole new generation of people who think it’s ok to have small orders delivered at will and not walk to the shop and have the minor ‘inconvenience’’ of doing so.
How have those two things got anything to do with each other?
Because we are discussing the advent of delivery drivers in stores?
It’s a relatively ‘new’ thing favoured I’d suggest most by a younger generation. The same generation who are on other occasions keen to highlight poor behaviour or actions that impact climate issues. Every little helps.
The priority given to deliveroo and other delivery drivers in shops, in this case a small Sainsbury's.
I make the effort of walking to the shop. Whilst in there I have shop assistants dodging about the aisles fulfilling the latest order for someone.
I get to the register and they are still bagging up the online shopping. They then come over to serve the customer in front of me but before they have a chance a delivery driver comes in with a motorbike helmet on standing there not saying a word but waving his phone around which I can only presume is code for 'I'm here to pick up an order' to which the shop assistant then rushes off to find his order before serving the customers in front of her.
I tell the driver to wait in the queue as we were here first. He stares at me 'no comprende' like and ushers the girl to hurry up. Bloke can barely speak English it turns out. I say no you have to wait. Again that absent look on his face from behind the helmet. Eventually another shop assistant came over and got him his prescious cargo to be delivered to someone who may or may not be able to go to the shop themselves. Myself and others however don't have that luxury so we are out there on the front line dealing with this kind of shit.
I agree.
The defence will be the customer paid extra for this and hence can queue jump I suppose. I don’t like it either.
The further annoyance is when I read the ‘climate change’ thread about emissions and poor corporate behaviour but we have a whole new generation of people who think it’s ok to have small orders delivered at will and not walk to the shop and have the minor ‘inconvenience’’ of doing so.
How have those two things got anything to do with each other?
Because we are discussing the advent of delivery drivers in stores?
It’s a relatively ‘new’ thing favoured I’d suggest most by a younger generation. The same generation who are on other occasions keen to highlight poor behaviour or actions that impact climate issues. Every little helps.
Let me get this right?
Because someone cares about whether or not the planet remains habitable for humans they must be young, and if they're young they must be using these delivery services. Therefore, in this entirely made up and full of assumptions scenario, there is some kind of double standard and you are annoyed by it?
The priority given to deliveroo and other delivery drivers in shops, in this case a small Sainsbury's.
I make the effort of walking to the shop. Whilst in there I have shop assistants dodging about the aisles fulfilling the latest order for someone.
I get to the register and they are still bagging up the online shopping. They then come over to serve the customer in front of me but before they have a chance a delivery driver comes in with a motorbike helmet on standing there not saying a word but waving his phone around which I can only presume is code for 'I'm here to pick up an order' to which the shop assistant then rushes off to find his order before serving the customers in front of her.
I tell the driver to wait in the queue as we were here first. He stares at me 'no comprende' like and ushers the girl to hurry up. Bloke can barely speak English it turns out. I say no you have to wait. Again that absent look on his face from behind the helmet. Eventually another shop assistant came over and got him his prescious cargo to be delivered to someone who may or may not be able to go to the shop themselves. Myself and others however don't have that luxury so we are out there on the front line dealing with this kind of shit.
I agree.
The defence will be the customer paid extra for this and hence can queue jump I suppose. I don’t like it either.
The further annoyance is when I read the ‘climate change’ thread about emissions and poor corporate behaviour but we have a whole new generation of people who think it’s ok to have small orders delivered at will and not walk to the shop and have the minor ‘inconvenience’’ of doing so.
How have those two things got anything to do with each other?
Because we are discussing the advent of delivery drivers in stores?
It’s a relatively ‘new’ thing favoured I’d suggest most by a younger generation. The same generation who are on other occasions keen to highlight poor behaviour or actions that impact climate issues. Every little helps.
Let me get this right?
Because someone cares about whether or not the planet remains habitable for humans they must be young, and if they're young they must be using these delivery services. Therefore, in this entirely made up and full of assumptions scenario, there is some kind of double standard and you are annoyed by it?
Got it
No you haven’t got it.
I highlight the use of delivery services like this is most used by a younger generation - my experience says that is right.
The younger generation are most likely to care more about climate - but not exclusively obviously.
It highlights for me that our collective actions tend to ignore the negative impact when we get benefit from it. That is a double standard we are guilty of ie adopting things that don’t help the bigger picture.
The priority given to deliveroo and other delivery drivers in shops, in this case a small Sainsbury's.
I make the effort of walking to the shop. Whilst in there I have shop assistants dodging about the aisles fulfilling the latest order for someone.
I get to the register and they are still bagging up the online shopping. They then come over to serve the customer in front of me but before they have a chance a delivery driver comes in with a motorbike helmet on standing there not saying a word but waving his phone around which I can only presume is code for 'I'm here to pick up an order' to which the shop assistant then rushes off to find his order before serving the customers in front of her.
I tell the driver to wait in the queue as we were here first. He stares at me 'no comprende' like and ushers the girl to hurry up. Bloke can barely speak English it turns out. I say no you have to wait. Again that absent look on his face from behind the helmet. Eventually another shop assistant came over and got him his prescious cargo to be delivered to someone who may or may not be able to go to the shop themselves. Myself and others however don't have that luxury so we are out there on the front line dealing with this kind of shit.
I agree.
The defence will be the customer paid extra for this and hence can queue jump I suppose. I don’t like it either.
The further annoyance is when I read the ‘climate change’ thread about emissions and poor corporate behaviour but we have a whole new generation of people who think it’s ok to have small orders delivered at will and not walk to the shop and have the minor ‘inconvenience’’ of doing so.
How have those two things got anything to do with each other?
Because we are discussing the advent of delivery drivers in stores?
It’s a relatively ‘new’ thing favoured I’d suggest most by a younger generation. The same generation who are on other occasions keen to highlight poor behaviour or actions that impact climate issues. Every little helps.
Let me get this right?
Because someone cares about whether or not the planet remains habitable for humans they must be young, and if they're young they must be using these delivery services. Therefore, in this entirely made up and full of assumptions scenario, there is some kind of double standard and you are annoyed by it?
Got it
No you haven’t got it.
I highlight the use of delivery services like this is most used by a younger generation - my experience says that is right.
The younger generation are most likely to care more about climate - but not exclusively obviously.
It highlights for me that our collective actions tend to ignore the negative impact when we get benefit from it. That is a double standard we are guilty of ie adopting things that don’t help the bigger picture.
So yes, all assumptions and generalisations.
Still nonidea what thats got to do with thr climate change thread on CL which isnthe link you made. To my knowledge I am the only regular contributor to that thread under 30 (generalisation 1 debunked).
I have never used deliveroo or similar for supermarket delivery services which is what the annoyance you were responding to was about. I'm fact on this very thread only a few days ago I was saying that I thought the business model of such companies and how they treat/pay drivers was an unethical race to the bottom. From my friends very few use these services other than in an emergency. From my neighbours it's those in their 40s and 50 who have these drivers turning up 3/4+ times a week. In fact the old couple a few doors up who are getting less mobile use it regularly. (Generalisation 2 debunked).
The priority given to deliveroo and other delivery drivers in shops, in this case a small Sainsbury's.
I make the effort of walking to the shop. Whilst in there I have shop assistants dodging about the aisles fulfilling the latest order for someone.
I get to the register and they are still bagging up the online shopping. They then come over to serve the customer in front of me but before they have a chance a delivery driver comes in with a motorbike helmet on standing there not saying a word but waving his phone around which I can only presume is code for 'I'm here to pick up an order' to which the shop assistant then rushes off to find his order before serving the customers in front of her.
I tell the driver to wait in the queue as we were here first. He stares at me 'no comprende' like and ushers the girl to hurry up. Bloke can barely speak English it turns out. I say no you have to wait. Again that absent look on his face from behind the helmet. Eventually another shop assistant came over and got him his prescious cargo to be delivered to someone who may or may not be able to go to the shop themselves. Myself and others however don't have that luxury so we are out there on the front line dealing with this kind of shit.
I agree.
The defence will be the customer paid extra for this and hence can queue jump I suppose. I don’t like it either.
The further annoyance is when I read the ‘climate change’ thread about emissions and poor corporate behaviour but we have a whole new generation of people who think it’s ok to have small orders delivered at will and not walk to the shop and have the minor ‘inconvenience’’ of doing so.
How have those two things got anything to do with each other?
Because we are discussing the advent of delivery drivers in stores?
It’s a relatively ‘new’ thing favoured I’d suggest most by a younger generation. The same generation who are on other occasions keen to highlight poor behaviour or actions that impact climate issues. Every little helps.
Let me get this right?
Because someone cares about whether or not the planet remains habitable for humans they must be young, and if they're young they must be using these delivery services. Therefore, in this entirely made up and full of assumptions scenario, there is some kind of double standard and you are annoyed by it?
Got it
No you haven’t got it.
I highlight the use of delivery services like this is most used by a younger generation - my experience says that is right.
The younger generation are most likely to care more about climate - but not exclusively obviously.
It highlights for me that our collective actions tend to ignore the negative impact when we get benefit from it. That is a double standard we are guilty of ie adopting things that don’t help the bigger picture.
So yes, all assumptions and generalisations.
Still nonidea what thats got to do with thr climate change thread on CL which isnthe link you made. To my knowledge I am the only regular contributor to that thread under 30 (generalisation 1 debunked).
I have never used deliveroo or similar for supermarket delivery services which is what the annoyance you were responding to was about. I'm fact on this very thread only a few days ago I was saying that I thought the business model of such companies and how they treat/pay drivers was an unethical race to the bottom. From my friends very few use these services other than in an emergency. From my neighbours it's those in their 40s and 50 who have these drivers turning up 3/4+ times a week. In fact the old couple a few doors up who are getting less mobile use it regularly. (Generalisation 2 debunked).
Im not talking about you at all.
I’m highlighting that the other thread reminds me (that’s the link) how our behaviours are contradictory at times.
On the one hand we look to fix what is wrong but we continue to develop things which don’t help. I’ve highlighted on that thread consumerism is a negative trait.
As I said my experience is (not yours it seems) mostly younger people use the likes of Deliver Roo etc. So not debunked - just different.
Good for you if you don’t use them and neither do your friends.
The priority given to deliveroo and other delivery drivers in shops, in this case a small Sainsbury's.
I make the effort of walking to the shop. Whilst in there I have shop assistants dodging about the aisles fulfilling the latest order for someone.
I get to the register and they are still bagging up the online shopping. They then come over to serve the customer in front of me but before they have a chance a delivery driver comes in with a motorbike helmet on standing there not saying a word but waving his phone around which I can only presume is code for 'I'm here to pick up an order' to which the shop assistant then rushes off to find his order before serving the customers in front of her.
I tell the driver to wait in the queue as we were here first. He stares at me 'no comprende' like and ushers the girl to hurry up. Bloke can barely speak English it turns out. I say no you have to wait. Again that absent look on his face from behind the helmet. Eventually another shop assistant came over and got him his prescious cargo to be delivered to someone who may or may not be able to go to the shop themselves. Myself and others however don't have that luxury so we are out there on the front line dealing with this kind of shit.
I agree.
The defence will be the customer paid extra for this and hence can queue jump I suppose. I don’t like it either.
The further annoyance is when I read the ‘climate change’ thread about emissions and poor corporate behaviour but we have a whole new generation of people who think it’s ok to have small orders delivered at will and not walk to the shop and have the minor ‘inconvenience’’ of doing so.
How have those two things got anything to do with each other?
Because we are discussing the advent of delivery drivers in stores?
It’s a relatively ‘new’ thing favoured I’d suggest most by a younger generation. The same generation who are on other occasions keen to highlight poor behaviour or actions that impact climate issues. Every little helps.
Let me get this right?
Because someone cares about whether or not the planet remains habitable for humans they must be young, and if they're young they must be using these delivery services. Therefore, in this entirely made up and full of assumptions scenario, there is some kind of double standard and you are annoyed by it?
Got it
No you haven’t got it.
I highlight the use of delivery services like this is most used by a younger generation - my experience says that is right.
The younger generation are most likely to care more about climate - but not exclusively obviously.
It highlights for me that our collective actions tend to ignore the negative impact when we get benefit from it. That is a double standard we are guilty of ie adopting things that don’t help the bigger picture.
So yes, all assumptions and generalisations.
Still nonidea what thats got to do with thr climate change thread on CL which isnthe link you made. To my knowledge I am the only regular contributor to that thread under 30 (generalisation 1 debunked).
I have never used deliveroo or similar for supermarket delivery services which is what the annoyance you were responding to was about. I'm fact on this very thread only a few days ago I was saying that I thought the business model of such companies and how they treat/pay drivers was an unethical race to the bottom. From my friends very few use these services other than in an emergency. From my neighbours it's those in their 40s and 50 who have these drivers turning up 3/4+ times a week. In fact the old couple a few doors up who are getting less mobile use it regularly. (Generalisation 2 debunked).
Im not talking about you at all.
I’m highlighting that the other thread reminds me (that’s the link) how our behaviours are contradictory at times.
On the one hand we look to fix what is wrong but we continue to develop things which don’t help. I’ve highlighted on that thread consumerism is a negative trait.
As I said my experience is (not yours it seems) mostly younger people use the likes of Deliver Roo etc. So not debunked - just different.
Good for you if you don’t use them and neither do your friends.
No need to be sensitive.
I'm not the one making up completely fictional scenarious based on generalisations and assumptions, linking them to other topics and then getting so annoyed about them I need to post it on a thread about things that annoy you.
If I wanted to go and get food I’d jump in my car anyway. The delivery driver is just doing what I’d do but for a cost. I ain’t walking to the coop or a McDonald’s drive through.
The priority given to deliveroo and other delivery drivers in shops, in this case a small Sainsbury's.
I make the effort of walking to the shop. Whilst in there I have shop assistants dodging about the aisles fulfilling the latest order for someone.
I get to the register and they are still bagging up the online shopping. They then come over to serve the customer in front of me but before they have a chance a delivery driver comes in with a motorbike helmet on standing there not saying a word but waving his phone around which I can only presume is code for 'I'm here to pick up an order' to which the shop assistant then rushes off to find his order before serving the customers in front of her.
I tell the driver to wait in the queue as we were here first. He stares at me 'no comprende' like and ushers the girl to hurry up. Bloke can barely speak English it turns out. I say no you have to wait. Again that absent look on his face from behind the helmet. Eventually another shop assistant came over and got him his prescious cargo to be delivered to someone who may or may not be able to go to the shop themselves. Myself and others however don't have that luxury so we are out there on the front line dealing with this kind of shit.
I agree.
The defence will be the customer paid extra for this and hence can queue jump I suppose. I don’t like it either.
The further annoyance is when I read the ‘climate change’ thread about emissions and poor corporate behaviour but we have a whole new generation of people who think it’s ok to have small orders delivered at will and not walk to the shop and have the minor ‘inconvenience’’ of doing so.
How have those two things got anything to do with each other?
Because we are discussing the advent of delivery drivers in stores?
It’s a relatively ‘new’ thing favoured I’d suggest most by a younger generation. The same generation who are on other occasions keen to highlight poor behaviour or actions that impact climate issues. Every little helps.
Let me get this right?
Because someone cares about whether or not the planet remains habitable for humans they must be young, and if they're young they must be using these delivery services. Therefore, in this entirely made up and full of assumptions scenario, there is some kind of double standard and you are annoyed by it?
Got it
No you haven’t got it.
I highlight the use of delivery services like this is most used by a younger generation - my experience says that is right.
The younger generation are most likely to care more about climate - but not exclusively obviously.
It highlights for me that our collective actions tend to ignore the negative impact when we get benefit from it. That is a double standard we are guilty of ie adopting things that don’t help the bigger picture.
So yes, all assumptions and generalisations.
Still nonidea what thats got to do with thr climate change thread on CL which isnthe link you made. To my knowledge I am the only regular contributor to that thread under 30 (generalisation 1 debunked).
I have never used deliveroo or similar for supermarket delivery services which is what the annoyance you were responding to was about. I'm fact on this very thread only a few days ago I was saying that I thought the business model of such companies and how they treat/pay drivers was an unethical race to the bottom. From my friends very few use these services other than in an emergency. From my neighbours it's those in their 40s and 50 who have these drivers turning up 3/4+ times a week. In fact the old couple a few doors up who are getting less mobile use it regularly. (Generalisation 2 debunked).
Im not talking about you at all.
I’m highlighting that the other thread reminds me (that’s the link) how our behaviours are contradictory at times.
On the one hand we look to fix what is wrong but we continue to develop things which don’t help. I’ve highlighted on that thread consumerism is a negative trait.
As I said my experience is (not yours it seems) mostly younger people use the likes of Deliver Roo etc. So not debunked - just different.
Good for you if you don’t use them and neither do your friends.
No need to be sensitive.
I'm not the one making up completely fictional scenarious based on generalisations and assumptions, linking them to other topics and then getting so annoyed about them I need to post it on a thread about things that annoy you.
But yeah I'm sensitive.
Carry on.
‘Annoyed ‘ is a stretch beyond the title of the thread for what was an aside from me.
I highlighted it made me think about the other thread - not a big deal to be clear.
My real ‘annoyance’ (to get back on track) is the growth in number of these drivers. They blight our high streets being parked up in numbers and the litter they create etc. It’s a low wage job that isn’t aspirational. Potentially many are not properly insured - certainly most don’t progress beyond ‘L’ plates and are poor drivers - under taking / taking to the pavement etc.
They represent a new / invented demand which has many negative features.
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I wonder what hygiene procedures they have at Deliveroo? My bet is that it's about the same level as their road safety procedures.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68558464
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-highway-code/rules-for-cyclists-59-to-82
I deleted my fb account a week or two ago. Haven’t missed it. 👍🏼
It's crazy that it's gone from the odd advert between friend's posts or group posts to about 90% ads and 'suggested' content.
Social media in general is just pretty awful there days and it's a shame as it did used to be decent.
I also get a lot about pubs. I don't mind that...
I make the effort of walking to the shop. Whilst in there I have shop assistants dodging about the aisles fulfilling the latest order for someone.
I get to the register and they are still bagging up the online shopping. They then come over to serve the customer in front of me but before they have a chance a delivery driver comes in with a motorbike helmet on standing there not saying a word but waving his phone around which I can only presume is code for 'I'm here to pick up an order' to which the shop assistant then rushes off to find his order before serving the customers in front of her.
I tell the driver to wait in the queue as we were here first. He stares at me 'no comprende' like and ushers the girl to hurry up. Bloke can barely speak English it turns out. I say no you have to wait. Again that absent look on his face from behind the helmet. Eventually another shop assistant came over and got him his prescious cargo to be delivered to someone who may or may not be able to go to the shop themselves. Myself and others however don't have that luxury so we are out there on the front line dealing with this kind of shit.
The address is High Street, FFS.
It’s a relatively ‘new’ thing favoured I’d suggest most by a younger generation. The same generation who are on other occasions keen to highlight poor behaviour or actions that impact climate issues. Every little helps.
Because someone cares about whether or not the planet remains habitable for humans they must be young, and if they're young they must be using these delivery services. Therefore, in this entirely made up and full of assumptions scenario, there is some kind of double standard and you are annoyed by it?
Got it
Still nonidea what thats got to do with thr climate change thread on CL which isnthe link you made. To my knowledge I am the only regular contributor to that thread under 30 (generalisation 1 debunked).
I have never used deliveroo or similar for supermarket delivery services which is what the annoyance you were responding to was about. I'm fact on this very thread only a few days ago I was saying that I thought the business model of such companies and how they treat/pay drivers was an unethical race to the bottom. From my friends very few use these services other than in an emergency. From my neighbours it's those in their 40s and 50 who have these drivers turning up 3/4+ times a week. In fact the old couple a few doors up who are getting less mobile use it regularly. (Generalisation 2 debunked).
not talking about you at all.
But yeah I'm sensitive.
Carry on.
My real ‘annoyance’ (to get back on track) is the growth in number of these drivers. They blight our high streets being parked up in numbers and the litter they create etc. It’s a low wage job that isn’t aspirational. Potentially many are not properly insured - certainly most don’t progress beyond ‘L’ plates and are poor drivers - under taking / taking to the pavement etc.
They represent a new / invented demand which has many negative features.