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Alfie May- Progress at Birmingham

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  • I wouldn't be surprised to see them spend another 15-20m in January. Why wouldn't you if you're prepared to invest and can do so without any sanctions?

    Already rumours doing the rounds they want Chris Rigg the Sunderland wonder kid for £10-15m.... I think they'll probably go again in Jan for sure. 
  • MarcusH26 said:
    I wouldn't be surprised to see them spend another 15-20m in January. Why wouldn't you if you're prepared to invest and can do so without any sanctions?

    Already rumours doing the rounds they want Chris Rigg the Sunderland wonder kid for £10-15m.... I think they'll probably go again in Jan for sure. 
    If he leaves Sunderland it'll surely be to a bigger club, he has some of the top sides in Europe after him. The England U17 captain is never going to sign for Birmingham. Can't fault their ambition though.
  • MarcusH26 said:
    I wouldn't be surprised to see them spend another 15-20m in January. Why wouldn't you if you're prepared to invest and can do so without any sanctions?

    Already rumours doing the rounds they want Chris Rigg the Sunderland wonder kid for £10-15m.... I think they'll probably go again in Jan for sure. 
    If he leaves Sunderland it'll surely be to a bigger club, he has some of the top sides in Europe after him. The England U17 captain is never going to sign for Birmingham. Can't fault their ambition though.
    I think its a bit of a Nixon scoop on his patreon as well
  • MarcusH26 said:
    I wouldn't be surprised to see them spend another 15-20m in January. Why wouldn't you if you're prepared to invest and can do so without any sanctions?

    Already rumours doing the rounds they want Chris Rigg the Sunderland wonder kid for £10-15m.... I think they'll probably go again in Jan for sure. 
    If he leaves Sunderland it'll surely be to a bigger club, he has some of the top sides in Europe after him. The England U17 captain is never going to sign for Birmingham. Can't fault their ambition though.
    I think its a bit of a Nixon scoop on his patreon as well

    Didn't know the original source was Nixon 😅 , I'll take a huge pinch of salt then on that one. But if that's the type of talent they're targeting.... 
  • MarcusH26 said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    I wouldn't be surprised to see them spend another 15-20m in January. Why wouldn't you if you're prepared to invest and can do so without any sanctions?

    Already rumours doing the rounds they want Chris Rigg the Sunderland wonder kid for £10-15m.... I think they'll probably go again in Jan for sure. 
    If he leaves Sunderland it'll surely be to a bigger club, he has some of the top sides in Europe after him. The England U17 captain is never going to sign for Birmingham. Can't fault their ambition though.
    I think its a bit of a Nixon scoop on his patreon as well

    Didn't know the original source was Nixon 😅 , I'll take a huge pinch of salt then on that one. But if that's the type of talent they're targeting.... 
    I was going to post it myself as well as saw it on reddit :D - But then read a few comments about it being Nixon, and saw you'd beaten me to it 
  • Chunes said:
    A second consecutive team that has decided his goals don't outweigh the rest of his game.
    On all available evidence I can't agree that's an accurate description of what has happened to May at Brum.

    They brought in another striker, who's similar in style to May, but is far better and who's fee smashed L1 records.

    Should Stansfield pick up an injury then May would be playing. 
    He would, much like he played every game for us under Jones when Jones had him despite preferences. In the end though they've gone out and got someone else they'd rather play than the bloke who scored 66 goals across his last three L1 seasons. That's what I'm saying, it doesn't seem to matter how many goals may scores, in the end his last two managers have wanted a player who offers them more than he provides. It's interesting, feels like his goals have elevated him to a glass ceiling in terms of his progression
  • Chunes said:
    A second consecutive team that has decided his goals don't outweigh the rest of his game.
    On all available evidence I can't agree that's an accurate description of what has happened to May at Brum.

    They brought in another striker, who's similar in style to May, but is far better and who's fee smashed L1 records.

    Should Stansfield pick up an injury then May would be playing. 
    He would, much like he played every game for us under Jones when Jones had him despite preferences. In the end though they've gone out and got someone else they'd rather play than the bloke who scored 66 goals across his last three L1 seasons. That's what I'm saying, it doesn't seem to matter how many goals may scores, in the end his last two managers have wanted a player who offers them more than he provides. It's interesting, feels like his goals have elevated him to a glass ceiling in terms of his progression
    As good as he is he always looked to me like a player that was unlikely to ever regularly play Championship football.

    Similar to BWP for us, both poachers more than anything and at that level with the money available clubs want more well rounded strikers. Especially with how common 4-3-3 and 4-2-3-1 are, he doesn’t really fit either formation unless you convince yourself he’s a good 10 - in terms of goalscoring he is, but he doesn’t stand out when it comes to passing, dribbling and creativity/flair.
  • edited September 30
    Scoham said:
    Chunes said:
    A second consecutive team that has decided his goals don't outweigh the rest of his game.
    On all available evidence I can't agree that's an accurate description of what has happened to May at Brum.

    They brought in another striker, who's similar in style to May, but is far better and who's fee smashed L1 records.

    Should Stansfield pick up an injury then May would be playing. 
    He would, much like he played every game for us under Jones when Jones had him despite preferences. In the end though they've gone out and got someone else they'd rather play than the bloke who scored 66 goals across his last three L1 seasons. That's what I'm saying, it doesn't seem to matter how many goals may scores, in the end his last two managers have wanted a player who offers them more than he provides. It's interesting, feels like his goals have elevated him to a glass ceiling in terms of his progression
    As good as he is he always looked to me like a player that was unlikely to ever regularly play Championship football.

    Similar to BWP for us, both poachers more than anything and at that level with the money available clubs want more well rounded strikers. Especially with how common 4-3-3 and 4-2-3-1 are, he doesn’t really fit either formation unless you convince yourself he’s a good 10 - in terms of goalscoring he is, but he doesn’t stand out when it comes to passing, dribbling and creativity/flair.
    So can you or anyone name a striker currently playing for a League 1 team who has more of these attributes than May, and also is likely to bag 20 goals this season? 

    And as a bonus, on which of those attributes is Ahadme or Godden  superior to May? 
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  • Scoham said:
    Chunes said:
    A second consecutive team that has decided his goals don't outweigh the rest of his game.
    On all available evidence I can't agree that's an accurate description of what has happened to May at Brum.

    They brought in another striker, who's similar in style to May, but is far better and who's fee smashed L1 records.

    Should Stansfield pick up an injury then May would be playing. 
    He would, much like he played every game for us under Jones when Jones had him despite preferences. In the end though they've gone out and got someone else they'd rather play than the bloke who scored 66 goals across his last three L1 seasons. That's what I'm saying, it doesn't seem to matter how many goals may scores, in the end his last two managers have wanted a player who offers them more than he provides. It's interesting, feels like his goals have elevated him to a glass ceiling in terms of his progression
    As good as he is he always looked to me like a player that was unlikely to ever regularly play Championship football.

    Similar to BWP for us, both poachers more than anything and at that level with the money available clubs want more well rounded strikers. Especially with how common 4-3-3 and 4-2-3-1 are, he doesn’t really fit either formation unless you convince yourself he’s a good 10 - in terms of goalscoring he is, but he doesn’t stand out when it comes to passing, dribbling and creativity/flair.
    So can you or anyone name a striker currently playing for a League 1 team who has more of these attributes than May, and also is likely to bag 20 goals this season? 

    And as a bonus, on which of those attributes is Ahadme or Godden  superior to May? 
    Ahadme
  • edited September 30
    Selling a proven goal-scoring striker must be one of the easiest transactions in professional football. Replacing him with someone better is one of the most difficult tasks in professional football, even if you are ready to spend a lot more than you received for the one you sold. 

    While I wait for someone to answer my previous question, here is another one.

    What do we think we have received for May, and how much have we forked out for Ahadme? (Godden was a free, if I recall.) And then what do we think was Alfie's wage here, and what do we think we are paying Ahadme and Godden?

    I have a very ominous feeling that the answer isn't favourable for the P&L....
    750k for May, wasn't it?

    Reported 1mil for Ahadme. And I think we're just trying to make ourselves feel better if we don't think a big portion of that wasn't paid up front. I would guess we paid 500k, with the rest add-ons. 

    We'll likely never know because, whatever the amount, it's not going to look like good business. 
  • Selling a proven goal-scoring striker must be one of the easiest transactions in professional football. Replacing him with someone better is one of the most difficult tasks in professional football, even if you are ready to spend a lot more than you received for the one you sold. 

    While I wait for someone to answer my previous question, here is another one.

    What do we think we have received for May, and how much have we forked out for Ahadme? (Godden was a free, if I recall.) And then what do we think was Alfie's wage here, and what do we think we are paying Ahadme and Godden?

    I have a very ominous feeling that the answer isn't favourable for the P&L....

    Undisclosed fee for Godden.
  • Selling a proven goal-scoring striker must be one of the easiest transactions in professional football. Replacing him with someone better is one of the most difficult tasks in professional football, even if you are ready to spend a lot more than you received for the one you sold. 

    While I wait for someone to answer my previous question, here is another one.

    What do we think we have received for May, and how much have we forked out for Ahadme? (Godden was a free, if I recall.) And then what do we think was Alfie's wage here, and what do we think we are paying Ahadme and Godden?

    I have a very ominous feeling that the answer isn't favourable for the P&L....
    Seen it reported as £775,000 for May, I doubt Ahadme is anywhere near the reported 1m, that is maybe with add ons including promotion, goals etc. Godden undisclosed.
  • Chunes said:
    A second consecutive team that has decided his goals don't outweigh the rest of his game.
    On all available evidence I can't agree that's an accurate description of what has happened to May at Brum.

    They brought in another striker, who's similar in style to May, but is far better and who's fee smashed L1 records.

    Should Stansfield pick up an injury then May would be playing. 
    He would, much like he played every game for us under Jones when Jones had him despite preferences. In the end though they've gone out and got someone else they'd rather play than the bloke who scored 66 goals across his last three L1 seasons. That's what I'm saying, it doesn't seem to matter how many goals may scores, in the end his last two managers have wanted a player who offers them more than he provides. It's interesting, feels like his goals have elevated him to a glass ceiling in terms of his progression
    Some people ( not Charlton fans) used to say that all Killer did was score goals. If all Alfie May did was score goals it would bring to the team a lot more than the crap strikers that we have ended up with. I think most managers in this division would love what Alfie would bring to their teams & yes maybe this is his level but it's the level we are playing at for at least the next 2 seasons. 
  • Scoham said:
    Chunes said:
    A second consecutive team that has decided his goals don't outweigh the rest of his game.
    On all available evidence I can't agree that's an accurate description of what has happened to May at Brum.

    They brought in another striker, who's similar in style to May, but is far better and who's fee smashed L1 records.

    Should Stansfield pick up an injury then May would be playing. 
    He would, much like he played every game for us under Jones when Jones had him despite preferences. In the end though they've gone out and got someone else they'd rather play than the bloke who scored 66 goals across his last three L1 seasons. That's what I'm saying, it doesn't seem to matter how many goals may scores, in the end his last two managers have wanted a player who offers them more than he provides. It's interesting, feels like his goals have elevated him to a glass ceiling in terms of his progression
    As good as he is he always looked to me like a player that was unlikely to ever regularly play Championship football.

    Similar to BWP for us, both poachers more than anything and at that level with the money available clubs want more well rounded strikers. Especially with how common 4-3-3 and 4-2-3-1 are, he doesn’t really fit either formation unless you convince yourself he’s a good 10 - in terms of goalscoring he is, but he doesn’t stand out when it comes to passing, dribbling and creativity/flair.
    Seriously ? We're not playing in the Championship & never will if our manager invests in strikers & midfielders who never look like scoring so Alfie would have been fine.
  • Chunes said:
    A second consecutive team that has decided his goals don't outweigh the rest of his game.
    On all available evidence I can't agree that's an accurate description of what has happened to May at Brum.

    They brought in another striker, who's similar in style to May, but is far better and who's fee smashed L1 records.

    Should Stansfield pick up an injury then May would be playing. 
    He would, much like he played every game for us under Jones when Jones had him despite preferences. In the end though they've gone out and got someone else they'd rather play than the bloke who scored 66 goals across his last three L1 seasons. That's what I'm saying, it doesn't seem to matter how many goals may scores, in the end his last two managers have wanted a player who offers them more than he provides. It's interesting, feels like his goals have elevated him to a glass ceiling in terms of his progression
    Some people ( not Charlton fans) used to say that all Killer did was score goals. If all Alfie May did was score goals it would bring to the team a lot more than the crap strikers that we have ended up with. I think most managers in this division would love what Alfie would bring to their teams & yes maybe this is his level but it's the level we are playing at for at least the next 2 seasons. 
    Played as a 10 for us at times and still scored.....tidy little player
  • edited September 30
    Scoham said:
    Chunes said:
    A second consecutive team that has decided his goals don't outweigh the rest of his game.
    On all available evidence I can't agree that's an accurate description of what has happened to May at Brum.

    They brought in another striker, who's similar in style to May, but is far better and who's fee smashed L1 records.

    Should Stansfield pick up an injury then May would be playing. 
    He would, much like he played every game for us under Jones when Jones had him despite preferences. In the end though they've gone out and got someone else they'd rather play than the bloke who scored 66 goals across his last three L1 seasons. That's what I'm saying, it doesn't seem to matter how many goals may scores, in the end his last two managers have wanted a player who offers them more than he provides. It's interesting, feels like his goals have elevated him to a glass ceiling in terms of his progression
    As good as he is he always looked to me like a player that was unlikely to ever regularly play Championship football.

    Similar to BWP for us, both poachers more than anything and at that level with the money available clubs want more well rounded strikers. Especially with how common 4-3-3 and 4-2-3-1 are, he doesn’t really fit either formation unless you convince yourself he’s a good 10 - in terms of goalscoring he is, but he doesn’t stand out when it comes to passing, dribbling and creativity/flair.
    So can you or anyone name a striker currently playing for a League 1 team who has more of these attributes than May, and also is likely to bag 20 goals this season? 

    And as a bonus, on which of those attributes is Ahadme or Godden  superior to May? 

    Scoham said:
    Chunes said:
    A second consecutive team that has decided his goals don't outweigh the rest of his game.
    On all available evidence I can't agree that's an accurate description of what has happened to May at Brum.

    They brought in another striker, who's similar in style to May, but is far better and who's fee smashed L1 records.

    Should Stansfield pick up an injury then May would be playing. 
    He would, much like he played every game for us under Jones when Jones had him despite preferences. In the end though they've gone out and got someone else they'd rather play than the bloke who scored 66 goals across his last three L1 seasons. That's what I'm saying, it doesn't seem to matter how many goals may scores, in the end his last two managers have wanted a player who offers them more than he provides. It's interesting, feels like his goals have elevated him to a glass ceiling in terms of his progression
    As good as he is he always looked to me like a player that was unlikely to ever regularly play Championship football.

    Similar to BWP for us, both poachers more than anything and at that level with the money available clubs want more well rounded strikers. Especially with how common 4-3-3 and 4-2-3-1 are, he doesn’t really fit either formation unless you convince yourself he’s a good 10 - in terms of goalscoring he is, but he doesn’t stand out when it comes to passing, dribbling and creativity/flair.
    Seriously ? We're not playing in the Championship & never will if our manager invests in strikers & midfielders who never look like scoring so Alfie would have been fine.


     To clarify I'm not trying to justify the decision to sell him. I was simply saying I don't believe he'll go on to play regularly in the Championship because he's not suited to being a lone striker and Championship clubs wouldn't sign him to play him in any other position.
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  • edited September 30
    Scoham said:
    Scoham said:
    Chunes said:
    A second consecutive team that has decided his goals don't outweigh the rest of his game.
    On all available evidence I can't agree that's an accurate description of what has happened to May at Brum.

    They brought in another striker, who's similar in style to May, but is far better and who's fee smashed L1 records.

    Should Stansfield pick up an injury then May would be playing. 
    He would, much like he played every game for us under Jones when Jones had him despite preferences. In the end though they've gone out and got someone else they'd rather play than the bloke who scored 66 goals across his last three L1 seasons. That's what I'm saying, it doesn't seem to matter how many goals may scores, in the end his last two managers have wanted a player who offers them more than he provides. It's interesting, feels like his goals have elevated him to a glass ceiling in terms of his progression
    As good as he is he always looked to me like a player that was unlikely to ever regularly play Championship football.

    Similar to BWP for us, both poachers more than anything and at that level with the money available clubs want more well rounded strikers. Especially with how common 4-3-3 and 4-2-3-1 are, he doesn’t really fit either formation unless you convince yourself he’s a good 10 - in terms of goalscoring he is, but he doesn’t stand out when it comes to passing, dribbling and creativity/flair.
    So can you or anyone name a striker currently playing for a League 1 team who has more of these attributes than May, and also is likely to bag 20 goals this season? 

    And as a bonus, on which of those attributes is Ahadme or Godden  superior to May? 

    Scoham said:
    Chunes said:
    A second consecutive team that has decided his goals don't outweigh the rest of his game.
    On all available evidence I can't agree that's an accurate description of what has happened to May at Brum.

    They brought in another striker, who's similar in style to May, but is far better and who's fee smashed L1 records.

    Should Stansfield pick up an injury then May would be playing. 
    He would, much like he played every game for us under Jones when Jones had him despite preferences. In the end though they've gone out and got someone else they'd rather play than the bloke who scored 66 goals across his last three L1 seasons. That's what I'm saying, it doesn't seem to matter how many goals may scores, in the end his last two managers have wanted a player who offers them more than he provides. It's interesting, feels like his goals have elevated him to a glass ceiling in terms of his progression
    As good as he is he always looked to me like a player that was unlikely to ever regularly play Championship football.

    Similar to BWP for us, both poachers more than anything and at that level with the money available clubs want more well rounded strikers. Especially with how common 4-3-3 and 4-2-3-1 are, he doesn’t really fit either formation unless you convince yourself he’s a good 10 - in terms of goalscoring he is, but he doesn’t stand out when it comes to passing, dribbling and creativity/flair.
    Seriously ? We're not playing in the Championship & never will if our manager invests in strikers & midfielders who never look like scoring so Alfie would have been fine.


     To clarify I'm not trying to justify the decision to sell him. I was simply saying I don't believe he'll go on to play regularly in the Championship because he's not suited to being a lone striker and Championship clubs wouldn't sign him to play him in any other position.
    I am shocked that that wasn’t understood. It’s like people are arguing two different points that nobody disagrees on.

    To answer Prague’s question directly: there are players in this league that will offer goals in the third tier and more of an all around game than Alfie does.

    Their names are Jay Stansfield and Lyndon Dykes.
  • Scoham said:
    Scoham said:
    Chunes said:
    A second consecutive team that has decided his goals don't outweigh the rest of his game.
    On all available evidence I can't agree that's an accurate description of what has happened to May at Brum.

    They brought in another striker, who's similar in style to May, but is far better and who's fee smashed L1 records.

    Should Stansfield pick up an injury then May would be playing. 
    He would, much like he played every game for us under Jones when Jones had him despite preferences. In the end though they've gone out and got someone else they'd rather play than the bloke who scored 66 goals across his last three L1 seasons. That's what I'm saying, it doesn't seem to matter how many goals may scores, in the end his last two managers have wanted a player who offers them more than he provides. It's interesting, feels like his goals have elevated him to a glass ceiling in terms of his progression
    As good as he is he always looked to me like a player that was unlikely to ever regularly play Championship football.

    Similar to BWP for us, both poachers more than anything and at that level with the money available clubs want more well rounded strikers. Especially with how common 4-3-3 and 4-2-3-1 are, he doesn’t really fit either formation unless you convince yourself he’s a good 10 - in terms of goalscoring he is, but he doesn’t stand out when it comes to passing, dribbling and creativity/flair.
    So can you or anyone name a striker currently playing for a League 1 team who has more of these attributes than May, and also is likely to bag 20 goals this season? 

    And as a bonus, on which of those attributes is Ahadme or Godden  superior to May? 

    Scoham said:
    Chunes said:
    A second consecutive team that has decided his goals don't outweigh the rest of his game.
    On all available evidence I can't agree that's an accurate description of what has happened to May at Brum.

    They brought in another striker, who's similar in style to May, but is far better and who's fee smashed L1 records.

    Should Stansfield pick up an injury then May would be playing. 
    He would, much like he played every game for us under Jones when Jones had him despite preferences. In the end though they've gone out and got someone else they'd rather play than the bloke who scored 66 goals across his last three L1 seasons. That's what I'm saying, it doesn't seem to matter how many goals may scores, in the end his last two managers have wanted a player who offers them more than he provides. It's interesting, feels like his goals have elevated him to a glass ceiling in terms of his progression
    As good as he is he always looked to me like a player that was unlikely to ever regularly play Championship football.

    Similar to BWP for us, both poachers more than anything and at that level with the money available clubs want more well rounded strikers. Especially with how common 4-3-3 and 4-2-3-1 are, he doesn’t really fit either formation unless you convince yourself he’s a good 10 - in terms of goalscoring he is, but he doesn’t stand out when it comes to passing, dribbling and creativity/flair.
    Seriously ? We're not playing in the Championship & never will if our manager invests in strikers & midfielders who never look like scoring so Alfie would have been fine.


     To clarify I'm not trying to justify the decision to sell him. I was simply saying I don't believe he'll go on to play regularly in the Championship because he's not suited to being a lone striker and Championship clubs wouldn't sign him to play him in any other position.
    I am shocked that that wasn’t understood. It’s like people are arguing two different points that nobody disagrees on.

    To answer Prague’s question directly: there are players in this league that will offer goals in the third tier and more of an all around game than Alfie does.

    Their names are Jay Stansfield and Lyndon Dykes.
    None that play for Charlton Athletic unfortunately. 
  • Selling a proven goal-scoring striker must be one of the easiest transactions in professional football. Replacing him with someone better is one of the most difficult tasks in professional football, even if you are ready to spend a lot more than you received for the one you sold. 

    While I wait for someone to answer my previous question, here is another one.

    What do we think we have received for May, and how much have we forked out for Ahadme? (Godden was a free, if I recall.) And then what do we think was Alfie's wage here, and what do we think we are paying Ahadme and Godden?

    I have a very ominous feeling that the answer isn't favourable for the P&L....
    Seen it reported as £775,000 for May, I doubt Ahadme is anywhere near the reported 1m, that is maybe with add ons including promotion, goals etc. Godden undisclosed.
    Saw the same on May, believe it was on the SLP website and agree on Ahadme. I noticed Godden was reported as up to £400k here:

    https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/sport/football/transfer-news/coventry-transfers-charlton-matty-godden-29463751
  • se9addick said:
    Scoham said:
    Scoham said:
    Chunes said:
    A second consecutive team that has decided his goals don't outweigh the rest of his game.
    On all available evidence I can't agree that's an accurate description of what has happened to May at Brum.

    They brought in another striker, who's similar in style to May, but is far better and who's fee smashed L1 records.

    Should Stansfield pick up an injury then May would be playing. 
    He would, much like he played every game for us under Jones when Jones had him despite preferences. In the end though they've gone out and got someone else they'd rather play than the bloke who scored 66 goals across his last three L1 seasons. That's what I'm saying, it doesn't seem to matter how many goals may scores, in the end his last two managers have wanted a player who offers them more than he provides. It's interesting, feels like his goals have elevated him to a glass ceiling in terms of his progression
    As good as he is he always looked to me like a player that was unlikely to ever regularly play Championship football.

    Similar to BWP for us, both poachers more than anything and at that level with the money available clubs want more well rounded strikers. Especially with how common 4-3-3 and 4-2-3-1 are, he doesn’t really fit either formation unless you convince yourself he’s a good 10 - in terms of goalscoring he is, but he doesn’t stand out when it comes to passing, dribbling and creativity/flair.
    So can you or anyone name a striker currently playing for a League 1 team who has more of these attributes than May, and also is likely to bag 20 goals this season? 

    And as a bonus, on which of those attributes is Ahadme or Godden  superior to May? 

    Scoham said:
    Chunes said:
    A second consecutive team that has decided his goals don't outweigh the rest of his game.
    On all available evidence I can't agree that's an accurate description of what has happened to May at Brum.

    They brought in another striker, who's similar in style to May, but is far better and who's fee smashed L1 records.

    Should Stansfield pick up an injury then May would be playing. 
    He would, much like he played every game for us under Jones when Jones had him despite preferences. In the end though they've gone out and got someone else they'd rather play than the bloke who scored 66 goals across his last three L1 seasons. That's what I'm saying, it doesn't seem to matter how many goals may scores, in the end his last two managers have wanted a player who offers them more than he provides. It's interesting, feels like his goals have elevated him to a glass ceiling in terms of his progression
    As good as he is he always looked to me like a player that was unlikely to ever regularly play Championship football.

    Similar to BWP for us, both poachers more than anything and at that level with the money available clubs want more well rounded strikers. Especially with how common 4-3-3 and 4-2-3-1 are, he doesn’t really fit either formation unless you convince yourself he’s a good 10 - in terms of goalscoring he is, but he doesn’t stand out when it comes to passing, dribbling and creativity/flair.
    Seriously ? We're not playing in the Championship & never will if our manager invests in strikers & midfielders who never look like scoring so Alfie would have been fine.


     To clarify I'm not trying to justify the decision to sell him. I was simply saying I don't believe he'll go on to play regularly in the Championship because he's not suited to being a lone striker and Championship clubs wouldn't sign him to play him in any other position.
    I am shocked that that wasn’t understood. It’s like people are arguing two different points that nobody disagrees on.

    To answer Prague’s question directly: there are players in this league that will offer goals in the third tier and more of an all around game than Alfie does.

    Their names are Jay Stansfield and Lyndon Dykes.
    None that play for Charlton Athletic unfortunately. 
    Let's see where we are at the end of the season, as a team and as individual players, before condemning anyone.
  • Scoham said:
    Scoham said:
    Chunes said:
    A second consecutive team that has decided his goals don't outweigh the rest of his game.
    On all available evidence I can't agree that's an accurate description of what has happened to May at Brum.

    They brought in another striker, who's similar in style to May, but is far better and who's fee smashed L1 records.

    Should Stansfield pick up an injury then May would be playing. 
    He would, much like he played every game for us under Jones when Jones had him despite preferences. In the end though they've gone out and got someone else they'd rather play than the bloke who scored 66 goals across his last three L1 seasons. That's what I'm saying, it doesn't seem to matter how many goals may scores, in the end his last two managers have wanted a player who offers them more than he provides. It's interesting, feels like his goals have elevated him to a glass ceiling in terms of his progression
    As good as he is he always looked to me like a player that was unlikely to ever regularly play Championship football.

    Similar to BWP for us, both poachers more than anything and at that level with the money available clubs want more well rounded strikers. Especially with how common 4-3-3 and 4-2-3-1 are, he doesn’t really fit either formation unless you convince yourself he’s a good 10 - in terms of goalscoring he is, but he doesn’t stand out when it comes to passing, dribbling and creativity/flair.
    So can you or anyone name a striker currently playing for a League 1 team who has more of these attributes than May, and also is likely to bag 20 goals this season? 

    And as a bonus, on which of those attributes is Ahadme or Godden  superior to May? 

    Scoham said:
    Chunes said:
    A second consecutive team that has decided his goals don't outweigh the rest of his game.
    On all available evidence I can't agree that's an accurate description of what has happened to May at Brum.

    They brought in another striker, who's similar in style to May, but is far better and who's fee smashed L1 records.

    Should Stansfield pick up an injury then May would be playing. 
    He would, much like he played every game for us under Jones when Jones had him despite preferences. In the end though they've gone out and got someone else they'd rather play than the bloke who scored 66 goals across his last three L1 seasons. That's what I'm saying, it doesn't seem to matter how many goals may scores, in the end his last two managers have wanted a player who offers them more than he provides. It's interesting, feels like his goals have elevated him to a glass ceiling in terms of his progression
    As good as he is he always looked to me like a player that was unlikely to ever regularly play Championship football.

    Similar to BWP for us, both poachers more than anything and at that level with the money available clubs want more well rounded strikers. Especially with how common 4-3-3 and 4-2-3-1 are, he doesn’t really fit either formation unless you convince yourself he’s a good 10 - in terms of goalscoring he is, but he doesn’t stand out when it comes to passing, dribbling and creativity/flair.
    Seriously ? We're not playing in the Championship & never will if our manager invests in strikers & midfielders who never look like scoring so Alfie would have been fine.


     To clarify I'm not trying to justify the decision to sell him. I was simply saying I don't believe he'll go on to play regularly in the Championship because he's not suited to being a lone striker and Championship clubs wouldn't sign him to play him in any other position.
    I am shocked that that wasn’t understood. It’s like people are arguing two different points that nobody disagrees on.

    To answer Prague’s question directly: there are players in this league that will offer goals in the third tier and more of an all around game than Alfie does.

    Their names are Jay Stansfield and Lyndon Dykes.
    At 15 & 5 Million quid I would hope so.
  • Scoham said:
    Scoham said:
    Chunes said:
    A second consecutive team that has decided his goals don't outweigh the rest of his game.
    On all available evidence I can't agree that's an accurate description of what has happened to May at Brum.

    They brought in another striker, who's similar in style to May, but is far better and who's fee smashed L1 records.

    Should Stansfield pick up an injury then May would be playing. 
    He would, much like he played every game for us under Jones when Jones had him despite preferences. In the end though they've gone out and got someone else they'd rather play than the bloke who scored 66 goals across his last three L1 seasons. That's what I'm saying, it doesn't seem to matter how many goals may scores, in the end his last two managers have wanted a player who offers them more than he provides. It's interesting, feels like his goals have elevated him to a glass ceiling in terms of his progression
    As good as he is he always looked to me like a player that was unlikely to ever regularly play Championship football.

    Similar to BWP for us, both poachers more than anything and at that level with the money available clubs want more well rounded strikers. Especially with how common 4-3-3 and 4-2-3-1 are, he doesn’t really fit either formation unless you convince yourself he’s a good 10 - in terms of goalscoring he is, but he doesn’t stand out when it comes to passing, dribbling and creativity/flair.
    So can you or anyone name a striker currently playing for a League 1 team who has more of these attributes than May, and also is likely to bag 20 goals this season? 

    And as a bonus, on which of those attributes is Ahadme or Godden  superior to May? 

    Scoham said:
    Chunes said:
    A second consecutive team that has decided his goals don't outweigh the rest of his game.
    On all available evidence I can't agree that's an accurate description of what has happened to May at Brum.

    They brought in another striker, who's similar in style to May, but is far better and who's fee smashed L1 records.

    Should Stansfield pick up an injury then May would be playing. 
    He would, much like he played every game for us under Jones when Jones had him despite preferences. In the end though they've gone out and got someone else they'd rather play than the bloke who scored 66 goals across his last three L1 seasons. That's what I'm saying, it doesn't seem to matter how many goals may scores, in the end his last two managers have wanted a player who offers them more than he provides. It's interesting, feels like his goals have elevated him to a glass ceiling in terms of his progression
    As good as he is he always looked to me like a player that was unlikely to ever regularly play Championship football.

    Similar to BWP for us, both poachers more than anything and at that level with the money available clubs want more well rounded strikers. Especially with how common 4-3-3 and 4-2-3-1 are, he doesn’t really fit either formation unless you convince yourself he’s a good 10 - in terms of goalscoring he is, but he doesn’t stand out when it comes to passing, dribbling and creativity/flair.
    Seriously ? We're not playing in the Championship & never will if our manager invests in strikers & midfielders who never look like scoring so Alfie would have been fine.


     To clarify I'm not trying to justify the decision to sell him. I was simply saying I don't believe he'll go on to play regularly in the Championship because he's not suited to being a lone striker and Championship clubs wouldn't sign him to play him in any other position.
    I am shocked that that wasn’t understood. It’s like people are arguing two different points that nobody disagrees on.

    To answer Prague’s question directly: there are players in this league that will offer goals in the third tier and more of an all around game than Alfie does.

    Their names are Jay Stansfield and Lyndon Dykes.
    At 15 & 5 Million quid I would hope so.
    Goalposts moved for the seventh time…



  •  To clarify I'm not trying to justify the decision to sell him. I was simply saying I don't believe he'll go on to play regularly in the Championship because he's not suited to being a lone striker and Championship clubs wouldn't sign him to play him in any other position.
    I am shocked that that wasn’t understood. It’s like people are arguing two different points that nobody disagrees on.

    To answer Prague’s question directly: there are players in this league that will offer goals in the third tier and more of an all around game than Alfie does.

    Their names are Jay Stansfield and Lyndon Dykes.
    At 15 & 5 Million quid I would hope so.
    Goalposts moved for the seventh time…
    So you're telling us that there are better players who offer goals & have more of an all round game than Alfie & then offer up the names of the 2 most expensive players in the history of the 3rd Division & you claim that the goalposts have moved ? Well you've lost me on that one.
  • Scoham said:
    Scoham said:
    Chunes said:
    A second consecutive team that has decided his goals don't outweigh the rest of his game.
    On all available evidence I can't agree that's an accurate description of what has happened to May at Brum.

    They brought in another striker, who's similar in style to May, but is far better and who's fee smashed L1 records.

    Should Stansfield pick up an injury then May would be playing. 
    He would, much like he played every game for us under Jones when Jones had him despite preferences. In the end though they've gone out and got someone else they'd rather play than the bloke who scored 66 goals across his last three L1 seasons. That's what I'm saying, it doesn't seem to matter how many goals may scores, in the end his last two managers have wanted a player who offers them more than he provides. It's interesting, feels like his goals have elevated him to a glass ceiling in terms of his progression
    As good as he is he always looked to me like a player that was unlikely to ever regularly play Championship football.

    Similar to BWP for us, both poachers more than anything and at that level with the money available clubs want more well rounded strikers. Especially with how common 4-3-3 and 4-2-3-1 are, he doesn’t really fit either formation unless you convince yourself he’s a good 10 - in terms of goalscoring he is, but he doesn’t stand out when it comes to passing, dribbling and creativity/flair.
    So can you or anyone name a striker currently playing for a League 1 team who has more of these attributes than May, and also is likely to bag 20 goals this season? 

    And as a bonus, on which of those attributes is Ahadme or Godden  superior to May? 

    Scoham said:
    Chunes said:
    A second consecutive team that has decided his goals don't outweigh the rest of his game.
    On all available evidence I can't agree that's an accurate description of what has happened to May at Brum.

    They brought in another striker, who's similar in style to May, but is far better and who's fee smashed L1 records.

    Should Stansfield pick up an injury then May would be playing. 
    He would, much like he played every game for us under Jones when Jones had him despite preferences. In the end though they've gone out and got someone else they'd rather play than the bloke who scored 66 goals across his last three L1 seasons. That's what I'm saying, it doesn't seem to matter how many goals may scores, in the end his last two managers have wanted a player who offers them more than he provides. It's interesting, feels like his goals have elevated him to a glass ceiling in terms of his progression
    As good as he is he always looked to me like a player that was unlikely to ever regularly play Championship football.

    Similar to BWP for us, both poachers more than anything and at that level with the money available clubs want more well rounded strikers. Especially with how common 4-3-3 and 4-2-3-1 are, he doesn’t really fit either formation unless you convince yourself he’s a good 10 - in terms of goalscoring he is, but he doesn’t stand out when it comes to passing, dribbling and creativity/flair.
    Seriously ? We're not playing in the Championship & never will if our manager invests in strikers & midfielders who never look like scoring so Alfie would have been fine.


     To clarify I'm not trying to justify the decision to sell him. I was simply saying I don't believe he'll go on to play regularly in the Championship because he's not suited to being a lone striker and Championship clubs wouldn't sign him to play him in any other position.
    I am shocked that that wasn’t understood. It’s like people are arguing two different points that nobody disagrees on.

    To answer Prague’s question directly: there are players in this league that will offer goals in the third tier and more of an all around game than Alfie does.

    Their names are Jay Stansfield and Lyndon Dykes.
    At 15 & 5 Million quid I would hope so.
    Goalposts moved for the seventh time…
    Is that why our strikers keep missing the target ?
    Nah I reckon it’s your crying that’s putting them off!

  • Goalposts moved for the seventh time…
    Is that why our strikers keep missing the target ?
    Nah I reckon it’s your crying that’s putting them off!
    Oh great putdown ................................if you're 5 years old
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