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I am going to say it!! Yes I am, Nathan Jones......................

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  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 38,710
    Leuth said:
    Crispywood said:
    When you play to win in the moments you need your players to not be donkeys Jones has way too many of those at this level
    He has Conor Coventry and he's decided to hold a grudge against him. Idiot 
    It’s debatable but let’s not turn Conor Coventry into the Championship Pirlo.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 17,791
    Scoham said:
    Leuth said:
    Crispywood said:
    When you play to win in the moments you need your players to not be donkeys Jones has way too many of those at this level
    He has Conor Coventry and he's decided to hold a grudge against him. Idiot 
    It’s debatable but let’s not turn Conor Coventry into the Championship Pirlo.
    Have you ever read Leuth's posts before?
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,893
    Scoham said:
    Leuth said:
    Crispywood said:
    When you play to win in the moments you need your players to not be donkeys Jones has way too many of those at this level
    He has Conor Coventry and he's decided to hold a grudge against him. Idiot 
    It’s debatable but let’s not turn Conor Coventry into the Championship Pirlo.
    He's good enough for our midfield, but Jones blames him for a goal or two so he's dropped him for the foreseeable even when he'd obviously have been the best choice today 
  • Laddick01
    Laddick01 Posts: 7,634
    Coady/ Docherty midfield away from home when you should be the side in control. 

    Abject.
  • WillmoreTheRed
    WillmoreTheRed Posts: 949
    Can he stay at Swansea after the last game? He’s back home then and we can find someone who allows their players to string more than 2 passes together.
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 13,349
    Croydon said:
    Deserves all the plaudits if he keeps us up but I don't think he has what it takes to improve a team in this league. 
    I stand by this. No excuse for how poor the football and tactics are
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 38,710
    edited April 18
    Leuth said:
    Scoham said:
    Leuth said:
    Crispywood said:
    When you play to win in the moments you need your players to not be donkeys Jones has way too many of those at this level
    He has Conor Coventry and he's decided to hold a grudge against him. Idiot 
    It’s debatable but let’s not turn Conor Coventry into the Championship Pirlo.
    He's good enough for our midfield, but Jones blames him for a goal or two so he's dropped him for the foreseeable even when he'd obviously have been the best choice today 
    I’m not convinced any of our midfielders are good enough really, other than Carey when he’s on form.

    Had we got the same result (or worse) with Coventry, others would have said why not play Coady with his experience and his record with us.
  • LittleAddick
    LittleAddick Posts: 715
    edited April 18


  • FAVADDICK
    FAVADDICK Posts: 599
    blackpool72 said:
    Most of our squad is league one standard. 
    I'd like to see NJ given a decent budget in the summer to see what he can do.
    Far too early to think about another managerial change. 
    He had a decent budget and wasted it, he doesn't deserve a penny to spend, the man is a fraud just like stoke and Southampton fans say 


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  • Oakster2
    Oakster2 Posts: 336
    edited April 18
    I feel Jones has taken us as far as he can - need fresh ideas and Championship class coaching team next season. Very appreciative for what he’s done but the Sheffield Wednesday factor and points deductions to rivals has been our saviour this season.

    Posting this I know it has echoes of the alleged feelings towards Curbs at the end of his reign - I still call bullshit on that particular myth though.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 99,363
    Oakster2 said:
    I feel Jones has taken us as far as he can - need fresh ideas and Championship class coaching team next season. Very appreciative for what he’s done but the Sheffield Wednesday factor and points deductions to rivals has been our saviour this season
    We're more than six points clear of Leicester...
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 5,390
    50 points, 3 games to go. We’d all have taken that in August 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 99,363
    NabySarr said:
    50 points, 3 games to go. We’d all have taken that in August 
    Yeah but all those defeats needed to end with us playing out of our skin each and every week for that to be acceptable
  • Nicholas
    Nicholas Posts: 7,796
    Nathan Jones red and white army!!
  • SheedyCAFC
    SheedyCAFC Posts: 1,310
    Even if we stay up can the owners trust him with more of their money in the summer when he’s already spent £10m on players that hardly ever play?
  • LittleAddick
    LittleAddick Posts: 715
    People saying that they'd like to see what Jones could do with a bigger budget, I'm curious as to whether they think Jones has a good track record when it comes to spending money wisely.

    We've spent the best part of a million on Ahadme, who was a terrible signing. Spent 2 million on a youngster, only to drop him after 10 games and loan him out after 4 months. Signed Oloafe and did the same. Knibbs wasn't even that highly rated by Reading fans and we shelled out 3 million.  Then paid another 3-4 million for a striker who can't get in the side. Add to that the predictably terrible signing of Burke. Kaminski failed to impress, and by dropping him I'd say that's confirmation it was a waste of 2 million. Not forgetting JRC who has barely featured.

    Carey, Godden, and Bell are probably his only signings I'd call good.

    Giving him 15 million to spend again would be financially reckless.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 99,363
    Should be thankful that people are calling for Jones' head again
    As each time its happened so far, he's made those comments look idiotic and pathetic
  • LittleAddick
    LittleAddick Posts: 715
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Should be thankful that people are calling for Jones' head again
    As each time its happened so far, he's made those comments look idiotic and pathetic
    I don't necessarily agree with those calls - but in my view we're past the point of calling them idiotic and pathetic. We genuinely can't score more than one goal, even against a team on -4 points.
  • paulsturgess
    paulsturgess Posts: 4,263
    Failing to get more than a couple of draws (and failing to deserve more than a couple of draws) from the position we were in and a run of Norwich, Bristol, Preston at home and oxford, a pathetic / on the beach Watford, and Wednesday away

    that just ain’t right 

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  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 17,791
    SheedyCAFC said:
    Even if we stay up can the owners trust him with more of their money in the summer when he’s already spent £10m on players that hardly ever play?
    I do understand that argument but I’d argue that our recruitment team should be better this time out. Chapple will have been in post for a year rather than a month or two and he’s clearly been searching wider (look at Sichenje). Our January business has generally been good, I’m hoping that continues 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 99,363
    edited April 18
    LittleAddick said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Should be thankful that people are calling for Jones' head again
    As each time its happened so far, he's made those comments look idiotic and pathetic
    I don't necessarily agree with those calls - but in my view we're past the point of calling them idiotic and pathetic. We genuinely can't score more than one goal, even against a team on -4 points.
    The question that always struggles to get answered with the Jones out calls
    Is what did you all expect at this stage of the season, that is being done differently?
    If you expected us to be doing worse, then we're doing better
    If you expected us to be doing better, then am sorry thats just naivity 
  • Oakster2
    Oakster2 Posts: 336
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Should be thankful that people are calling for Jones' head again
    As each time its happened so far, he's made those comments look idiotic and pathetic
    calling someone’s opinion “idiotic and pathetic” just because it doesn’t align with your view….end of discussion for me
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 18,220
    Scoham said:
    Leuth said:
    Scoham said:
    Leuth said:
    Crispywood said:
    When you play to win in the moments you need your players to not be donkeys Jones has way too many of those at this level
    He has Conor Coventry and he's decided to hold a grudge against him. Idiot 
    It’s debatable but let’s not turn Conor Coventry into the Championship Pirlo.
    He's good enough for our midfield, but Jones blames him for a goal or two so he's dropped him for the foreseeable even when he'd obviously have been the best choice today 
    I’m not convinced any of our midfielders are good enough really, other than Carey when he’s on form.

    Had we got the same result (or worse) with Coventry, others would have said why not play Coady with his experience and his record with us.
    I agree. Our midfield is absolutely honking, with or without him. 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 9,577
    fenaddick said:
    SheedyCAFC said:
    Even if we stay up can the owners trust him with more of their money in the summer when he’s already spent £10m on players that hardly ever play?
    I do understand that argument but I’d argue that our recruitment team should be better this time out. Chapple will have been in post for a year rather than a month or two and he’s clearly been searching wider (look at Sichenje). Our January business has generally been good, I’m hoping that continues 
    It just feels like it's going to be a very expensive summer. Quality CMs that can transform us aren't going to be cheap so hopefully PC has racked up the air miles going wider afield to try and find some gems. 

    I always knew we'd be a difficult watch this season , I didn't quite expect it to get this difficult. 
  • Greenie
    Greenie Posts: 9,177
    Croydon said:
    Croydon said:
    Deserves all the plaudits if he keeps us up but I don't think he has what it takes to improve a team in this league. 
    I stand by this. No excuse for how poor the football and tactics are
    Bang on, once the other teams found us out after approx 8 games, he just didn’t  seem to have the nous to change, always appears to be clutching at straws! And it’s never his fault. 
  • paulsturgess
    paulsturgess Posts: 4,263
    ForeverAddickted said:
    LittleAddick said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Should be thankful that people are calling for Jones' head again
    As each time its happened so far, he's made those comments look idiotic and pathetic
    I don't necessarily agree with those calls - but in my view we're past the point of calling them idiotic and pathetic. We genuinely can't score more than one goal, even against a team on -4 points.
    The question that always struggles to get answered with the Jones out calls
    Is what did you all expect at this stage of the season, that is being done differently?
    If you expected us to be doing worse, then we're doing better
    If you expected us to be doing better, then am sorry thats just naivity 
    If you didn’t expect us to be doing better, then you have not been watching any of our matches. Fact. People need to get a grip and stop banging on about budget and playing football manager , looking at bits of paper.

    look at the players on the pitch and how effing pitiful they are playing. If you don’t think they could and/or should be doing better, then you are the naive one!
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 99,363
    paulsturgess said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    LittleAddick said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Should be thankful that people are calling for Jones' head again
    As each time its happened so far, he's made those comments look idiotic and pathetic
    I don't necessarily agree with those calls - but in my view we're past the point of calling them idiotic and pathetic. We genuinely can't score more than one goal, even against a team on -4 points.
    The question that always struggles to get answered with the Jones out calls
    Is what did you all expect at this stage of the season, that is being done differently?
    If you expected us to be doing worse, then we're doing better
    If you expected us to be doing better, then am sorry thats just naivity 
    If you didn’t expect us to be doing better, then you have not been watching any of our matches. Fact. People need to get a grip and stop banging on about budget and playing football manager , looking at bits of paper.

    look at the players on the pitch and how effing pitiful they are playing. If you don’t think they could and/or should be doing better, then you are the naive one!
    Survival is the target, its been the aim all season nothing more... nothing less
    Yet despite how pittiful we're playing, we're still in control of our destiny, we've still not entered the bottom three
    Sorry but those are the facts I'm looking at
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 1,675
    Chunes said:
    Scoham said:
    Leuth said:
    Scoham said:
    Leuth said:
    Crispywood said:
    When you play to win in the moments you need your players to not be donkeys Jones has way too many of those at this level
    He has Conor Coventry and he's decided to hold a grudge against him. Idiot 
    It’s debatable but let’s not turn Conor Coventry into the Championship Pirlo.
    He's good enough for our midfield, but Jones blames him for a goal or two so he's dropped him for the foreseeable even when he'd obviously have been the best choice today 
    I’m not convinced any of our midfielders are good enough really, other than Carey when he’s on form.

    Had we got the same result (or worse) with Coventry, others would have said why not play Coady with his experience and his record with us.
    I agree. Our midfield is absolutely honking, with or without him. 
    Our midfield has been our problem all season, nothing we can do now, but if it’s not the priority to replace all of it I’ll be pretty pissed off. Keep Carey but he would need to be scared of his place in the team at the very least.
  • paulsturgess
    paulsturgess Posts: 4,263
    ForeverAddickted said:
    paulsturgess said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    LittleAddick said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Should be thankful that people are calling for Jones' head again
    As each time its happened so far, he's made those comments look idiotic and pathetic
    I don't necessarily agree with those calls - but in my view we're past the point of calling them idiotic and pathetic. We genuinely can't score more than one goal, even against a team on -4 points.
    The question that always struggles to get answered with the Jones out calls
    Is what did you all expect at this stage of the season, that is being done differently?
    If you expected us to be doing worse, then we're doing better
    If you expected us to be doing better, then am sorry thats just naivity 
    If you didn’t expect us to be doing better, then you have not been watching any of our matches. Fact. People need to get a grip and stop banging on about budget and playing football manager , looking at bits of paper.

    look at the players on the pitch and how effing pitiful they are playing. If you don’t think they could and/or should be doing better, then you are the naive one!
    Survival is the target, its been the aim all season nothing more... nothing less
    Yet despite how pittiful we're playing, we're still in control of our destiny, we've still not entered the bottom three
    Sorry but those are the facts I'm looking at
    I'm sorry you're deviating from the point here:

    Your comment - " if you expected us to be doing better, than am sorry thats just naivety"

    my response is this a single simple question - "do you think the team should be playing better than they are?"

    Please answer with one word only - yes or no

    (and before answering would urge you to reflect on today's opponents, Preston and Watford's recent/current form)

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