I am going to say it!! Yes I am, Nathan Jones......................

Sword65pf

LittleAddick said:

NJ getting sacked doesn't solve anything, we haven't got the players to play 'good football' at this level

People liking this, is the general consensus that we have got a load of incapable shit players?, surely we’ve seen most of them play well at some point to look at the bigger picture, tactics for one, confidence, our play just seems so stifled. 

Dazzler21

Sword65pf said:

LittleAddick said:

NJ getting sacked doesn't solve anything, we haven't got the players to play 'good football' at this level

People liking this, is the general consensus that we have got a load of incapable shit players?, surely we’ve seen most of them play well at some point to look at the bigger picture, tactics for one, confidence, our play just seems so stifled. 

IMO I think every player at every level can have flashes of class. But true class is consistent. Unfortunately we're all over the shop. 

The players are individuals and should know the basics of how to play football and score goals... is that unrealistic? 

IR94

Just wish we even attempted to play better football, its a eyesore how we set up

MeerKat

Sword65pf said:

LittleAddick said:

NJ getting sacked doesn't solve anything, we haven't got the players to play 'good football' at this level

People liking this, is the general consensus that we have got a load of incapable shit players?, surely we’ve seen most of them play well at some point to look at the bigger picture, tactics for one, confidence, our play just seems so stifled. 

Just for arguments sake, if we sacked Jones and hired an absolute magician, who got the very most out of this squad of players, how high do you think they could finish? What do we think is the general consensus on this squads ability?

Sword65pf

Dazzler21 said:

Sword65pf said:

LittleAddick said:

NJ getting sacked doesn't solve anything, we haven't got the players to play 'good football' at this level

People liking this, is the general consensus that we have got a load of incapable shit players?, surely we’ve seen most of them play well at some point to look at the bigger picture, tactics for one, confidence, our play just seems so stifled. 

IMO I think every player at every level can have flashes of class. But true class is consistent. Unfortunately we're all over the shop. 

The players are individuals and should know the basics of how to play football and score goals... is that unrealistic? 

No need for a manager then?

Crispywood

Sword65pf said:

LittleAddick said:

NJ getting sacked doesn't solve anything, we haven't got the players to play 'good football' at this level

People liking this, is the general consensus that we have got a load of incapable shit players?, surely we’ve seen most of them play well at some point to look at the bigger picture, tactics for one, confidence, our play just seems so stifled. 

Even players like Hector played well at one point every player is capable of a good game.

Midfield options 
skipp- Struggled at Leceister
Ouma- discipline issues + nothing promising 
Mwamba- 19 years old 
Chalobah- Can’t stay fit 
JRC- wasn’t wanted at Blackburn 
Coventry- only us and Sheffield Wednesday interested when he was available 
Carey- Blackpool fans said he is massively inconsistent 

Forward Line 
apter- out for season 
grant- West Brom fans wanted him out 
Alli- Called crap by Pompey and Luton 
Leaburn- Highest level he’s played at 
Godden- Can’t stay fit 
Nkeng- 19 
Mbick- 19 


Is the team better what than they are producing absolutely but Kelman and Knibbs is the only players i can confidently look at like TC last season and think they have much better ability than what theyre displaying under Jones.

They are Jones signings and you can 100% hold him and the recruitment team responsible but sacking him, their is a very low ceiling for the quality this team can produce 

Sword65pf

Crispywood said:

Sword65pf said:

LittleAddick said:

NJ getting sacked doesn't solve anything, we haven't got the players to play 'good football' at this level

People liking this, is the general consensus that we have got a load of incapable shit players?, surely we’ve seen most of them play well at some point to look at the bigger picture, tactics for one, confidence, our play just seems so stifled. 

Even players like Hector played well at one point every player is capable of a good game.

Midfield options 
skipp- Struggled at Leceister
Ouma- discipline issues + nothing promising 
Mwamba- 19 years old 
Chalobah- Can’t stay fit 
JRC- wasn’t wanted at Blackburn 
Coventry- only us and Sheffield Wednesday interested when he was available 
Carey- Blackpool fans said he is massively inconsistent 

Forward Line 
apter- out for season 
grant- West Brom fans wanted him out 
Alli- Called crap by Pompey and Luton 
Leaburn- Highest level he’s played at 
Godden- Can’t stay fit 
Nkeng- 19 
Mbick- 19 


Is the team better what than they are producing absolutely but Kelman and Knibbs is the only players i can confidently look at like TC last season and think they have much better ability than what theyre displaying under Jones.

They are Jones signings and you can 100% hold him and the recruitment team responsible but sacking him, their is a very low ceiling for the quality this team can produce 

If they came out and sacked him, which I don’t think they will purely because they won’t want to pay for it, as I think they are bailing out and given up on us, NJ would probably say first and foremost how he wasn’t backed this season and he got all he could through the door. Can’t help thinking we don’t know the full story or we’ve been spun plenty of bullshit. NJ just doesn’t seem to have the trust in a lot of squad to play forward attacking football or he just can’t coach a side to do so?, not sure which?🤷🏻‍♂️

LargeAddick

With a net spend of just 1.5m this summer what exactly did people expect we were going to get? That sort of spending gets you one thing, a relegation battle. Yes NJ has made mistakes and sometimes team selection and tactics baffle me but he’s operating with what he has, a poor unbalanced squad.

Oh, and basically that 1.5m spend was on Alli, who is poor. How long before Nkeng gets a look in?

ElfsborgAddick

NabySarr said:

NabySarr said:

Seeing a lot of Jones out. Who do people think we can attract that’s a better manager than Jones? Only suggestion I’ve seen is Scott Parker which is laughable 

We are not an attractive proposition, we have one of the worst squads and lowest budgets in the league. Do you really think there’s any managers out there that would be better and actually want to join? 

Still waiting for a Jones outer to actually name a realistic replacement that’s better… 

Who would you suggest?  There has to be one that fits the bill, you clearly know your football.

J BLOCK

DubaiCAFC said:

Not sure many want Jones to go, but people are frustrated because this is a strong squad, just feels like being aloud to go and play. Also they don’t know if they are attacking or defensive at the moment. Caught in between. It is a worry at the moment.. Watford and Burnley are poor, low in confidence and we got 1 point and never really had a go at them. If we go at them, get an early goal it could been a few goals and we could have kicked on.
He needs to get this low budget thing out of his head and believe in the players 

But this isn’t a strong squad. Another season where we have one of the worst midfields in the league and our strikers wouldn’t start for any other team in the league.

Our ownership stumbled upon a miracle worker in Jones. He can’t continue to perform when he doesn’t get backed. 

SantaClaus

J BLOCK said:

DubaiCAFC said:

Not sure many want Jones to go, but people are frustrated because this is a strong squad, just feels like being aloud to go and play. Also they don’t know if they are attacking or defensive at the moment. Caught in between. It is a worry at the moment.. Watford and Burnley are poor, low in confidence and we got 1 point and never really had a go at them. If we go at them, get an early goal it could been a few goals and we could have kicked on.
He needs to get this low budget thing out of his head and believe in the players 

But this isn’t a strong squad. Another season where we have one of the worst midfields in the league and our strikers wouldn’t start for any other team in the league.

Our ownership stumbled upon a miracle worker in Jones. He can’t continue to perform when he doesn’t get backed. 

'One of' is being generous.

EveryDayAddick

A good friend of mine (who used to be Jude Bellingham's agent before his move to Real Madrid) is best mates with an ageing goalkeeper we tried to sign at the start of our League One promotion season (not Begovic). I asked him at the time why said goalkeeper didn't sign, his answer was that the guy had a phone call with NJ, and came away thinking he was a bit of an "idiot".

At the time (with my rose tinted glasses on), I wondered if the player was just looking for a paycheck, and wasn't willing to roll up his sleeves, so took it as a positive. I'm starting to think the player might have been right. This whole anti-football/try to nick a win culture probably has a ceiling, and I would suggest that ceiling is League One. Maybe it's the club that has to evolve, not the manager.

closet_addick

EveryDayAddick said:

A good friend of mine (who used to be Jude Bellingham's agent before his move to Real Madrid) is best mates with an ageing goalkeeper we tried to sign at the start of our League One promotion season (not Begovic). I asked him at the time why said goalkeeper didn't sign, his answer was that the guy had a phone call with NJ, and came away thinking he was a bit of an "idiot".

At the time (with my rose tinted glasses on), I wondered if the player was just looking for a paycheck, and wasn't willing to roll up his sleeves, so took it as a positive. I'm starting to think the player might have been right. This whole anti-football/try to nick a win culture probably has a ceiling, and I would suggest that ceiling is League One. Maybe it's the club that has to evolve, not the manager.

My neighbour (who works as Cristiano Ronaldo's make up artist) agrees with your mate.