I am going to say it!! Yes I am, Nathan Jones......................

fenaddick

The NJ thing I don’t like is his subs. They’re often late and too many players at once which causes us to lose all structure completely and the last 15/20 mins just becomes chaos 

shine166

ns9 said:

shine166 said:

oohaahmortimer said:

Surely he didn’t choose to spend £20k per week on Skipp , although the alleged last spend of £20k a week was on Kaminski so maybe but no we’re skint and we didn’t spend or waste any money on Ahadme, Olaofe , Apter, Alli, Kelman, Knibbs , JRC .

Let's not attempt to put Jones at fault for any of this, hes only had 8 transfer windows to recruit his own players. 

But in that time he’s kept us up, got us promoted and kept us up in the Championship so it has obviously worked to a much greater extent than it hasn’t. I do agree that our recruitment since getting promoted has been way off, but in relative terms we are spending absolute peanuts 

Maybe we need to spend our peanuts better ? When you start players from your promotion campaign, but none that you signed 12 months ago, youre definitely spending badly. We signed 17 players last season and not a single one of them were in yesterday's starting 11.
 

AberystwythAddick

shine166 said:

ns9 said:

shine166 said:

oohaahmortimer said:

Surely he didn’t choose to spend £20k per week on Skipp , although the alleged last spend of £20k a week was on Kaminski so maybe but no we’re skint and we didn’t spend or waste any money on Ahadme, Olaofe , Apter, Alli, Kelman, Knibbs , JRC .

Let's not attempt to put Jones at fault for any of this, hes only had 8 transfer windows to recruit his own players. 

But in that time he’s kept us up, got us promoted and kept us up in the Championship so it has obviously worked to a much greater extent than it hasn’t. I do agree that our recruitment since getting promoted has been way off, but in relative terms we are spending absolute peanuts 

Maybe we need to spend out peanuts better ? When you start players from your promotion campaign, but none that you signed 12 months ago, youre definitely spending badly. We signed 17 players last season and not a single one of them were in yesterday's starting 11.
 

This is what does it for me. Spent all the money poorly. After every window trots out the we’ve improved in quality but then doesn’t play the players he’s brought in. 

All well and good saying he’s not been backed. But why should the owners trust him with their money when he’s just thrown it away previously? 

LargeAddick

AberystwythAddick said:

shine166 said:

ns9 said:

shine166 said:

oohaahmortimer said:

Surely he didn’t choose to spend £20k per week on Skipp , although the alleged last spend of £20k a week was on Kaminski so maybe but no we’re skint and we didn’t spend or waste any money on Ahadme, Olaofe , Apter, Alli, Kelman, Knibbs , JRC .

Let's not attempt to put Jones at fault for any of this, hes only had 8 transfer windows to recruit his own players. 

But in that time he’s kept us up, got us promoted and kept us up in the Championship so it has obviously worked to a much greater extent than it hasn’t. I do agree that our recruitment since getting promoted has been way off, but in relative terms we are spending absolute peanuts 

Maybe we need to spend out peanuts better ? When you start players from your promotion campaign, but none that you signed 12 months ago, youre definitely spending badly. We signed 17 players last season and not a single one of them were in yesterday's starting 11.
 

This is what does it for me. Spent all the money poorly. After every window trots out the we’ve improved in quality but then doesn’t play the players he’s brought in. 

All well and good saying he’s not been backed. But why should the owners trust him with their money when he’s just thrown it away previously? 

 But it’s Catch 22. Has he spent money poorly or has he been short changed so we’ve had to shop around and recruit the best from the league below hoping they can step up or those with dubious injury records hoping we can keep them fit. At no point have we bought an oven ready Championship quality player. It’s all well and good for Carter & co. to trot out we want to be the most sustainable elite level club blah blah ad infinitum and then not spend to get there in the first place. I’ll say it again, a net summer spend of 1.5m in this league gets you one thing, a relegation fight. And that isn’t NJ’s fault.

2121

fenaddick said:

The NJ thing I don’t like is his subs. They’re often late and too many players at once which causes us to lose all structure completely and the last 15/20 mins just becomes chaos 

Agreed, altho i thought last season he did have a structure to his ‘finishers’ and it seemed to work. Now we it just seems like chaos, or maybe its chaos when we are chasing. 

shine166

LargeAddick said:

AberystwythAddick said:

shine166 said:

ns9 said:

shine166 said:

oohaahmortimer said:

Surely he didn’t choose to spend £20k per week on Skipp , although the alleged last spend of £20k a week was on Kaminski so maybe but no we’re skint and we didn’t spend or waste any money on Ahadme, Olaofe , Apter, Alli, Kelman, Knibbs , JRC .

Let's not attempt to put Jones at fault for any of this, hes only had 8 transfer windows to recruit his own players. 

But in that time he’s kept us up, got us promoted and kept us up in the Championship so it has obviously worked to a much greater extent than it hasn’t. I do agree that our recruitment since getting promoted has been way off, but in relative terms we are spending absolute peanuts 

Maybe we need to spend out peanuts better ? When you start players from your promotion campaign, but none that you signed 12 months ago, youre definitely spending badly. We signed 17 players last season and not a single one of them were in yesterday's starting 11.
 

This is what does it for me. Spent all the money poorly. After every window trots out the we’ve improved in quality but then doesn’t play the players he’s brought in. 

All well and good saying he’s not been backed. But why should the owners trust him with their money when he’s just thrown it away previously? 

 But it’s Catch 22. Has he spent money poorly or has he been short changed so we’ve had to shop around and recruit the best from the league below hoping they can step up or those with dubious injury records hoping we can keep them fit. At no point have we bought an oven ready Championship quality player. It’s all well and good for Carter & co. to trot out we want to be the most sustainable elite level club blah blah ad infinitum and then not spend to get there in the first place. I’ll say it again, a net summer spend of 1.5m in this league gets you one thing, a relegation fight. And that isn’t NJ’s fault.

Would love to know how much was spent on the 17 incomings last season. 

Gribbo

Got to be honest - and I'm a Jonesy fan - it did seem at times during the transfer windows, that he (or they) were a bit like kids in a toy shop, with a couple of bags burning a hole in their back pockets. There were players coming in who individually seemed to have pedigree, but there didn't seem to be any clear direction in terms of what they were trying to achieve with them. Was it just a bit of a free-for-all, trying to “improve” every area of the squad without any real overall plan?