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Drinking in the stands- could it catch on?

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  • Surely a plastic bottle with the cap taken off, just like fizzies is the answer? Not the best ‘experience’ drinking it but I’d take the hit if I could take it to my seat. Not sure if any beer companies are making plastic bottles but I’m sure they’d start if that market opened up.
  • Surely a plastic bottle with the cap taken off, just like fizzies is the answer? Not the best ‘experience’ drinking it but I’d take the hit if I could take it to my seat. Not sure if any beer companies are making plastic bottles but I’m sure they’d start if that market opened up.
    Yeah i'd agree with this, if it's going to work it has to be plastic bottles as at least then it's a bit more difficult for beer to go everywhere when a goal is scored.

    The obvious downside of course is that it probably won't be long before a bunch of pissed up away fans rain plastic bottles down on the opposition striker celebrating a goal in a local derby.
  • Surely a plastic bottle with the cap taken off, just like fizzies is the answer? Not the best ‘experience’ drinking it but I’d take the hit if I could take it to my seat. Not sure if any beer companies are making plastic bottles but I’m sure they’d start if that market opened up.
    they sell them like that at other grounds already. Peterborough comes to mind, they also get produced for some music venues so it’s not out of the question. The problem with a bottle is it can be used as a projectile onto the pitch in a way that a plastic cup can. I know you could do that with a coke bottle too but if you’ve had a few too many beers you’re more likely to lob your bottle than if you’ve had a diet coke 
  • Surely a plastic bottle with the cap taken off, just like fizzies is the answer? Not the best ‘experience’ drinking it but I’d take the hit if I could take it to my seat. Not sure if any beer companies are making plastic bottles but I’m sure they’d start if that market opened up.
    What is happening now with the new bottles where the cap can't be detached from the bottle (for recycling reasons) without brute force?
  • seth plum said:
    The world is supposed to be moving away from unnecessary plastic for environmental reasons.
    Beer should be served in rolled up newspapers.
    Disagree that a ridiculous proposal, i suggest fans are given rubber reusable gumshields they then pay £5 and they be allowed to gum the tap of a barrow for a period (up to a maximum of 45 seconds), which is both hygienic and ensures no beer is wasted.
  • It should definitely not be illegal under UK law. It think that is ridiculous and unnecessary!

    Clubs should be able to decide for themselves how to handle it. My preference in the West Stand would be that
    the bars underneath shut while the game goes on so there is no point in leaving your seat unless you want a pee. No problem with people bringing a pint with them. Glass bottles or anything never allowed of course.
  • It should definitely not be illegal under UK law. It think that is ridiculous and unnecessary!

    Clubs should be able to decide for themselves how to handle it. My preference in the West Stand would be that
    the bars underneath shut while the game goes on so there is no point in leaving your seat unless you want a pee. No problem with people bringing a pint with them. Glass bottles or anything never allowed of course.
    100%
  • edited November 8
    seth plum said:
    The world is supposed to be moving away from unnecessary plastic for environmental reasons.
    Beer should be served in rolled up newspapers.

    In Germany, France and Austria you pay for a reusable cup then can get your deposit back at the end of the game - or you can keep the cup for next time, or take it as a souvenir. 

    I'm against it though. Time in the ground is a useful booze break during games and extends the evening's activities. The English, me included, don't handle our beer well enough.
  • RedPanda said:
    seth plum said:
    The world is supposed to be moving away from unnecessary plastic for environmental reasons.
    Beer should be served in rolled up newspapers.

    In Germany, France and Austria you pay for a reusable cup then can get your deposit back at the end of the game - or you can keep the cup for next time, or take it as a souvenir. 

    Which is what happens at most cricket grounds (though strangely Kent seem to have gone back to disposable cups)
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  • RedPanda said:
    seth plum said:
    The world is supposed to be moving away from unnecessary plastic for environmental reasons.
    Beer should be served in rolled up newspapers.

    In Germany, France and Austria you pay for a reusable cup then can get your deposit back at the end of the game - or you can keep the cup for next time, or take it as a souvenir. 

    I'm against it though. Time in the ground is a useful booze break during games and extends the evening's activities. The English, me included, don't handle our beer well enough.

    You, no doubt, like myself have experienced many countries where you can drink whilst watching the game.  Sadly, I doubt it will ever be done in the professional game over here.
  • RedPanda said:
    seth plum said:
    The world is supposed to be moving away from unnecessary plastic for environmental reasons.
    Beer should be served in rolled up newspapers.

    In Germany, France and Austria you pay for a reusable cup then can get your deposit back at the end of the game - or you can keep the cup for next time, or take it as a souvenir. 

    Which is what happens at most cricket grounds (though strangely Kent seem to have gone back to disposable cups)
    Cool, I've not been to watch cricket for a few years. Stewart and I had the same at a Hungerford non league game a couple of years ago. 

    It's worth noting the French do it but for non-alcoholic beer only so you're effectively paying for a souvenir cup and getting a free drink. Scottish grounds are also always 'dry' so we don't have it too bad. In fact I got fined for having a supermarket beer near Hampden once. 
  • But we’re not in Germany or Italy so it’s irrelevant.
    I agree with others, it may raise an extra £200 a match, but at the expense of many pissed off fans.
    Why is it irrelevant? They’re human beings watching a football match in very similar circumstances. Germany our culturally very similar to us. Germans also drink shitloads and somebody above mentioned our tribalism around football which they also have in droves. 

    Why on earth should tens of thousands of people be able to neck beers whilst watching football in Dortmund or Berlin or Hamburg without it kicking off or people fighting each other cos somebody’s getting up in their way every 2 minutes but it’s not possible in England?! 

    I would also add that thousands of England fans were able to do it whilst watching England matches at the Euros during the summer and again , not a problem. 

    I feel like this is just hypothetical panic, reality is it would likely be absolutely fine especially when we got used to it. 
  • RedPanda said:
    seth plum said:
    The world is supposed to be moving away from unnecessary plastic for environmental reasons.
    Beer should be served in rolled up newspapers.

    In Germany, France and Austria you pay for a reusable cup then can get your deposit back at the end of the game - or you can keep the cup for next time, or take it as a souvenir. 

    I'm against it though. Time in the ground is a useful booze break during games and extends the evening's activities. The English, me included, don't handle our beer well enough.
    I don't think that would work in English football culture. I live in Berlin and have been to quite a few Hertha and Union games. While people get extremely drunk, they are still sensible—each individual will correctly recycle every bottle and cup or take it home with them. 

    At the Valley, I can imagine a thousand plastic cups thrown on the floor next to all the disposable vapes and small transparent bags.
  • edited November 8
    RedPanda said:
    seth plum said:
    The world is supposed to be moving away from unnecessary plastic for environmental reasons.
    Beer should be served in rolled up newspapers.

    In Germany, France and Austria you pay for a reusable cup then can get your deposit back at the end of the game - or you can keep the cup for next time, or take it as a souvenir. 

    Which is what happens at most cricket grounds (though strangely Kent seem to have gone back to disposable cups)
    So has The Oval.

    NB Charlton would be mad to give out plastic bottles in the Covered End after the referee was hit with a plastic ketchup bottle and 2 fans were hit and injured from bottles thrown from the upper into the lower tier in the last couple of seasons.
  • But we’re not in Germany or Italy so it’s irrelevant.
    I agree with others, it may raise an extra £200 a match, but at the expense of many pissed off fans.
    Why is it irrelevant? They’re human beings watching a football match in very similar circumstances. Germany our culturally very similar to us. Germans also drink shitloads and somebody above mentioned our tribalism around football which they also have in droves. 

    Why on earth should tens of thousands of people be able to neck beers whilst watching football in Dortmund or Berlin or Hamburg without it kicking off or people fighting each other cos somebody’s getting up in their way every 2 minutes but it’s not possible in England?! 

    I would also add that thousands of England fans were able to do it whilst watching England matches at the Euros during the summer and again , not a problem. 

    I feel like this is just hypothetical panic, reality is it would likely be absolutely fine especially when we got used to it. 
    Germany doesn’t have the same issues with cocaine as we do. 
  • But we’re not in Germany or Italy so it’s irrelevant.
    I agree with others, it may raise an extra £200 a match, but at the expense of many pissed off fans.
    Why is it irrelevant? They’re human beings watching a football match in very similar circumstances. Germany our culturally very similar to us. Germans also drink shitloads and somebody above mentioned our tribalism around football which they also have in droves. 

    Why on earth should tens of thousands of people be able to neck beers whilst watching football in Dortmund or Berlin or Hamburg without it kicking off or people fighting each other cos somebody’s getting up in their way every 2 minutes but it’s not possible in England?! 

    I would also add that thousands of England fans were able to do it whilst watching England matches at the Euros during the summer and again , not a problem. 

    I feel like this is just hypothetical panic, reality is it would likely be absolutely fine especially when we got used to it. 
    Reality is see my post above, about the referee and fans being hit by thrown plastic bottles.
  • Rothko said:
    But we’re not in Germany or Italy so it’s irrelevant.
    I agree with others, it may raise an extra £200 a match, but at the expense of many pissed off fans.
    Why is it irrelevant? They’re human beings watching a football match in very similar circumstances. Germany our culturally very similar to us. Germans also drink shitloads and somebody above mentioned our tribalism around football which they also have in droves. 

    Why on earth should tens of thousands of people be able to neck beers whilst watching football in Dortmund or Berlin or Hamburg without it kicking off or people fighting each other cos somebody’s getting up in their way every 2 minutes but it’s not possible in England?! 

    I would also add that thousands of England fans were able to do it whilst watching England matches at the Euros during the summer and again , not a problem. 

    I feel like this is just hypothetical panic, reality is it would likely be absolutely fine especially when we got used to it. 
    Germany doesn’t have the same issues with cocaine as we do. 
    You are right, they are a LOT more Liberal and give far less of a shit about going off into toilets. Hamburg, Berlin I've seen people doing keys and card edges sat at tables in bars and nobody cares. Also the German police are absolutely fucking brutal which discourages a lot of the bullshit behaviour we put up with over here 
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