Drinking in the stands- could it catch on?

JustFloydRoad

usetobunkin said:

And a white wine when watching the ladies 

Chances are if it is allowed it would be at the ladies (and not the Men)

JustFloydRoad

YTS1978 said:

Ilovelondontown said:

YTS1978 said:

Weirdly me and my bro were talking bout this a few weeks ago. Let's be honest, there's no way we can be trusted to drink in our seats during the game. It would be carnage. And for all those saying "they do it in Holland/Germany" just have a look online at some of the aggro that goes on in those countries both in and outside of the grounds!

Carnage? I don’t think so, policing inside grounds in this country is too good any little incidents would be dealt with/ bans,  In this day & age I don’t think having a drink would would be too much of an issue, things/attitudes have changed since 80’s. 

Maybe mate, but I really don't think it would work for the men's game. I can see the trial being successful for the women and maybe they'll trial it at a few mens games soon. Leeds, Stoke, Wolves, Birmingham maybe as a start 😏

I would be interested who they would trial it at for the Men's game- can you imagine it being allowed at the toolbox (for the spanners)?

SporadicAddick

I genuinely cant recall people sitting / standing in grounds drinking before alcohol was banned. I've heard the stories of standing on an empty East Terrace with pints lines up on the steps, but there was room for that. 

Does anyone really think it would make that much of a difference to their experience by having a pint during the game, when balanced with the disruption of doing that in an all seater / safe standing stadium and the level of jumping up and down there is when a goal goes in?

usetobunkin

Never had a problem taking a nip from a hip flask. Recommend it, especially H/T on a cold damp Saturday afternoon. 

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SporadicAddick said:

I genuinely cant recall people sitting / standing in grounds drinking before alcohol was banned. I've heard the stories of standing on an empty East Terrace with pints lines up on the steps, but there was room for that. 

Does anyone really think it would make that much of a difference to their experience by having a pint during the game, when balanced with the disruption of doing that in an all seater / safe standing stadium and the level of jumping up and down there is when a goal goes in?

Is drinking part of your football culture?

superclive

it's interesting, I've never known any different, a few beers before and after and perhaps at half time is the norm now. 

at crixket drinking whilst watching is part of it, but your their much longer. I guess it would be a bit like a t20 night. it would make alot of revenue I'd think. 

SidewaysInOz

Yes please. Drinking in the stands quite normal down under.

Radostanradical

The issue is that the vast majority of people would be fine, we all know that. Next time you go Charlton (even in the upper north) look around actually analyze how may of these people here would actually really kick off should they be allowed to have a drink in the stands ? In reality probably very, very few.

However you would get the handful of incidents (which we get some anyway) of people kicking off getting too pissed which I'm sure the media would pick up on and make an odyssey out of it. 

Perhaps it could be trialed at some games I.E. midweek or below a certain capacity. Clubs would probably welcome it as long as they arent forced to hire more security.

MuttleyCAFC

I think in terms of people being pissed, not drinking in the stands has little impact on that. People may indeed drink more before the game and they can always get a drink from the stand bars if they have issues as some do. I went to football drunk once, many moons ago and didn't enjoy it at all. 

Ilovelondontown

I think its absolutely ridiculous that in these modern times a football supporter can not take an alcoholic beverage to their seat

Starinnaddick

Ilovelondontown said:

I think its absolutely ridiculous that in these modern times a football supporter can not take an alcoholic beverage to their seat

I hope you feel the same way after you get covered in beer when we score. I think North lower would be an area to avoid Lol

Hal1x

Ilovelondontown said:

I think its absolutely ridiculous that in these modern times a football supporter can not take an alcoholic beverage to their seat

yeah you would think in these modern times that lager would be delivered to your seat by a drone, the glass would recycle itself, and a little robot would travel along the row and drain your surplus liquid for you- i'm sure Judith Hann mentioned it on Tomorrows World once.

Karim_myBagheri

Hal1x said:

Ilovelondontown said:

I think its absolutely ridiculous that in these modern times a football supporter can not take an alcoholic beverage to their seat

yeah you would think in these modern times that lager would be delivered to your seat by a drone, the glass would recycle itself, and a little robot would travel along the row and drain your surplus liquid for you- i'm sure Judith Hann mentioned it on Tomorrows World once.

This 

SporadicAddick

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SporadicAddick said:

I genuinely cant recall people sitting / standing in grounds drinking before alcohol was banned. I've heard the stories of standing on an empty East Terrace with pints lines up on the steps, but there was room for that. 

Does anyone really think it would make that much of a difference to their experience by having a pint during the game, when balanced with the disruption of doing that in an all seater / safe standing stadium and the level of jumping up and down there is when a goal goes in?

Is drinking part of your football culture?

Insofar as it's possible for me to have a "culture", then yes, I love a beer before the game, and I love a beer after the game - both are part of the matchday experience. I have no interest in being anywhere near the inevitable lager shower when a goal goes in, or continuously moving out of the way for people to go to the bar during the game. 

Outside of the "fan experience" point of view, and from a pure cost benefit analysis point of view, the incremental margin from the possible volume upside would need to be balanced with the additional cleaning costs (I can't see many terrace drinkers diligently returning their empty plastic cups at the end of the game, and the stale beer from spillages (even if they weren't thrown) would need to be regularly cleaned from both the steps and the seats).

cantersaddick

SporadicAddick said:

PopIcon said:

SporadicAddick said:

I genuinely cant recall people sitting / standing in grounds drinking before alcohol was banned. I've heard the stories of standing on an empty East Terrace with pints lines up on the steps, but there was room for that. 

Does anyone really think it would make that much of a difference to their experience by having a pint during the game, when balanced with the disruption of doing that in an all seater / safe standing stadium and the level of jumping up and down there is when a goal goes in?

Is drinking part of your football culture?

Insofar as it's possible for me to have a "culture", then yes, I love a beer before the game, and I love a beer after the game - both are part of the matchday experience. I have no interest in being anywhere near the inevitable lager shower when a goal goes in, or continuously moving out of the way for people to go to the bar during the game. 

Outside of the "fan experience" point of view, and from a pure cost benefit analysis point of view, the incremental margin from the possible volume upside would need to be balanced with the additional cleaning costs (I can't see many terrace drinkers diligently returning their empty plastic cups at the end of the game, and the stale beer from spillages (even if they weren't thrown) would need to be regularly cleaned from both the steps and the seats).

this might be the first time you and I have agreed on something! 

SporadicAddick

cantersaddick said:

SporadicAddick said:

PopIcon said:

SporadicAddick said:

I genuinely cant recall people sitting / standing in grounds drinking before alcohol was banned. I've heard the stories of standing on an empty East Terrace with pints lines up on the steps, but there was room for that. 

Does anyone really think it would make that much of a difference to their experience by having a pint during the game, when balanced with the disruption of doing that in an all seater / safe standing stadium and the level of jumping up and down there is when a goal goes in?

Is drinking part of your football culture?

Insofar as it's possible for me to have a "culture", then yes, I love a beer before the game, and I love a beer after the game - both are part of the matchday experience. I have no interest in being anywhere near the inevitable lager shower when a goal goes in, or continuously moving out of the way for people to go to the bar during the game. 

Outside of the "fan experience" point of view, and from a pure cost benefit analysis point of view, the incremental margin from the possible volume upside would need to be balanced with the additional cleaning costs (I can't see many terrace drinkers diligently returning their empty plastic cups at the end of the game, and the stale beer from spillages (even if they weren't thrown) would need to be regularly cleaned from both the steps and the seats).

this might be the first time you and I have agreed on something! 

I'm not having that...

Bring on stand drinking! 

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SporadicAddick said:

PopIcon said:

SporadicAddick said:

I genuinely cant recall people sitting / standing in grounds drinking before alcohol was banned. I've heard the stories of standing on an empty East Terrace with pints lines up on the steps, but there was room for that. 

Does anyone really think it would make that much of a difference to their experience by having a pint during the game, when balanced with the disruption of doing that in an all seater / safe standing stadium and the level of jumping up and down there is when a goal goes in?

Is drinking part of your football culture?

Insofar as it's possible for me to have a "culture", then yes, I love a beer before the game, and I love a beer after the game - both are part of the matchday experience. I have no interest in being anywhere near the inevitable lager shower when a goal goes in, or continuously moving out of the way for people to go to the bar during the game. 

Outside of the "fan experience" point of view, and from a pure cost benefit analysis point of view, the incremental margin from the possible volume upside would need to be balanced with the additional cleaning costs (I can't see many terrace drinkers diligently returning their empty plastic cups at the end of the game, and the stale beer from spillages (even if they weren't thrown) would need to be regularly cleaned from both the steps and the seats).

There is an army of staff who are paid to clean the stands post match, the sales of beer will go beyond offsetting the extra time it will take to clear the additional cups. Provide some of those clear plastic bins and the majority of adults will use them, the ones they have hanging on the railings at the top of the West Stand.

I think the throwing oh the beer will be an occasional occurrence. Those England games were rare occurrences, a couple of games every two years. Week in, week out, fans don't be happy going home soaked and stinking or beer.

SporadicAddick

PopIcon said:

SporadicAddick said:

PopIcon said:

SporadicAddick said:

I genuinely cant recall people sitting / standing in grounds drinking before alcohol was banned. I've heard the stories of standing on an empty East Terrace with pints lines up on the steps, but there was room for that. 

Does anyone really think it would make that much of a difference to their experience by having a pint during the game, when balanced with the disruption of doing that in an all seater / safe standing stadium and the level of jumping up and down there is when a goal goes in?

Is drinking part of your football culture?

Insofar as it's possible for me to have a "culture", then yes, I love a beer before the game, and I love a beer after the game - both are part of the matchday experience. I have no interest in being anywhere near the inevitable lager shower when a goal goes in, or continuously moving out of the way for people to go to the bar during the game. 

Outside of the "fan experience" point of view, and from a pure cost benefit analysis point of view, the incremental margin from the possible volume upside would need to be balanced with the additional cleaning costs (I can't see many terrace drinkers diligently returning their empty plastic cups at the end of the game, and the stale beer from spillages (even if they weren't thrown) would need to be regularly cleaned from both the steps and the seats).

There is an army of staff who are paid to clean the stands post match, the sales of beer will go beyond offsetting the extra time it will take to clear the additional cups. Provide some of those clear plastic bins and the majority of adults will use them, the ones they have hanging on the railings at the top of the West Stand.

I think the throwing oh the beer will be an occasional occurrence. Those England games were rare occurrences, a couple of games every two years. Week in, week out, fans don't be happy going home soaked and stinking or beer.

As long as we have Ahadme up front I agree. 

JustFloydRoad

SporadicAddick said:

I genuinely cant recall people sitting / standing in grounds drinking before alcohol was banned. I've heard the stories of standing on an empty East Terrace with pints lines up on the steps, but there was room for that. 

No wonder The Sporting Events (Control of Alcohol etc.) Act came in 1985, so that makes it 40 years old this year. 

Starinnaddick

I think the potential for trouble far outweighs the financial benefits. 

JustFloydRoad

Starinnaddick said:

I think the potential for trouble (in Men's football) far outweighs the financial benefits. 

That is why they are trialling it out for the Women's games not the Men's.

DyerConsequences

14 of the 24 teams in the top 2 tiers of women's football will be allowing drinking in the stands at the start of this season: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c77v7xd58kmo

Charlton are one of only 10 that are not.

killerandflash

DyerConsequences said:

14 of the 24 teams in the top 2 tiers of women's football will be allowing drinking in the stands at the start of this season: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c77v7xd58kmo

Charlton are one of only 10 that are not.

Will the clubs change what's on offer at women's games, and offer prosecco, NZ sauvignon blanc and Aperol Spritzes instead of beer 

iainment

 I can’t understand why anyone would want to have a drink watching football. We know from the past the anti social crap that drunks at football get up to.

fenaddick

iainment said:

 I can’t understand why anyone would want to have a drink watching football. We know from the past the anti social crap that drunks at football get up to.

Not everyone drinks to get drunk and those that do will get drunk whether they can do so in their seat or not

gringo

fenaddick said:

iainment said:

 I can’t understand why anyone would want to have a drink watching football. We know from the past the anti social crap that drunks at football get up to.

Not everyone drinks to get drunk and those that do will get drunk whether they can do so in their seat .

fenaddick

gringo said:

fenaddick said:

iainment said:

 I can’t understand why anyone would want to have a drink watching football. We know from the past the anti social crap that drunks at football get up to.

Not everyone drinks to get drunk and those that do will get drunk whether they can do so in their seat or not

but plenty do... and its not a good outcome in a confined stadium- and the fact that some are already pissed doesnt mean you should make it easier for others.

Personally I don't think it will make much difference to who is drunk, the main issue is potential for beer being chucked but at £7 a pint some people will hopefully be put off going that!

eaststandmike

iainment said:

 I can’t understand why anyone would want to have a drink watching football. We know from the past the anti social crap that drunks at football get up to.

That’s why it’s not going to happen in the men’s game 

fenaddick

eaststandmike said:

iainment said:

 I can’t understand why anyone would want to have a drink watching football. We know from the past the anti social crap that drunks at football get up to.

That’s why it’s not going to happen in the men’s game 

Think it will within the next 5 years or so, clear the WSL/WSL2 teams are being used as a testing ground

sam3110

There should be a halfway house, serve beer, but only low ABV stuff, maximum 2%