Sonny Bradley has signed for Wycombe. Still doesn’t rule out a move for Jones as Swansea are sniffing around their other centre back
Instead of us worrying about losing Jones we should be disappointed that Charlton have not signed Bradley as his partner. Every window we need to come out stronger but it would appear all we’re interested in is having a squad that’s adequate and hope it works out. This window should be about bringing in quality not being forced to replace it. We’re going nowhere fast.
We play a back 3. Jones plays in the middle of it, Bradley would also have to play in the middle of it. Not what we need for the first eleven
I know people lose their heads in January, but we’re going nowhere because we didn’t sign a 33 year old centre back (that has barely played for 6 months) on loan and it’s January the 7th could be a new record
If we’d signed him you’d get people saying oh another Luton reject and he’s not fit because he’s hardly played. But because we didn’t sign him we’re going nowhere
I don't think there was that feeling in the summer. In fact, I think most people were positive about the ex-Luton players. It is only because most of them have been disappointingly poor that you would get that response. Also, I think you are missing SHG point in what I thought was a reasoned post/opinion, it isn't specifically Bradley, more the fact we are mostly talking about losing our best players rather than looking to strengthen.
There has definitely been an exercise in expectation management for this window from within the club. Talk of a bloated squad and player happiness reads as budget to me. There has been nothing said about making a push for the play-offs or addressing the issues with the balance of the squad, just the size.
Actions speak louder than words and, by the end of January, we will understand the true ambitions of our SMT and owners. Maybe then it will be OK to "lose our heads".
That’s a massive assumption that we aren’t looking to strengthen based on fan sentiment rather than anything concrete.
The expectation management might be as much about keeping a lid on potential transfer fees paid as it is managing the fanbase.
I agree, let’s see wait until the end of January to see.
It isn't an assumption, it is what NJ said, "one, maybe two" additions and reducing the size of the squad. It could all be smoke and mirrors to reduce fees, but I suspect selling clubs aren't going to be looking at our pre/post match press conferences and going Charlton don't have much to spend.
To be fair to NJ and the SMT, they did what they said they'd do. "One, maybe two signings. But also happy to not do any business." At least they didn't whack out the supa dupa deal phone while under a transfer embargo.
They also said that before the transfer window opened, and we were a way off the play-offs. So there has been no reaction or change in strategy after giving ourselves a chance.
This was said at the online fan's meeting on 23rd Jan.
The above conversation was Jan 7th. So they were talking about 1 or 2 additions at the very start of the window and before, if memory serves correct.
Yeah, he said it consistently throughout Jan, and also said it at the fan's meeting on 23rd, where Rodwell added that they were also happy to not do any business in some cases, and NJ nodded in agreement. It's evident that the improved league position did not change their plan.
Admits we wanted a wide man, other than not much new
Also, we only signed Mcintyre as a replacement for REG.
We signed McIntyre for competition to Gillesphey. Alex Mitchell has the job to fill in for any of the 3 potential CB roles for injuries at the moment.
Not according to NJ today at the press conference.
Just went back to listen: REG wanted more game time so we got McIntyre in. Nathan didn't say replace REG on the bench!
NJ then said McIntyre is a LEFT footed CB and Gillesphey is the only one we have.
IF McIntyre comes into the team it will be for Gillesphey. TBF to Gillesphey he has had some effective games in the last six but the mandatory mistakes negate his headers and decent play.
McIntyre won't replace Jones and Ramsey is allowing Small to spend more time attacking down the right side and I like the combo between Kayne and Thierry.
Personally I have always wanted Ramsey, Small and Edwards all in the team together but I didn't see Small doing so well on the right and assumed it would be on the left playing in front of Edwards.
Admits we wanted a wide man, other than not much new
Also, we only signed Mcintyre as a replacement for REG.
We signed McIntyre for competition to Gillesphey. Alex Mitchell has the job to fill in for any of the 3 potential CB roles for injuries at the moment.
Not according to NJ today at the press conference.
It would be worth remembering where Kayne Ramsay played on Saturday. Quite simply there was no need to sign a replacement for REG, Mitchell and Ramsay can cover that position and McIntyre can cover Gillesphey and if needed Lloyd Jones, as he can play across the back line.
I assume there was a Target A then Owen Dale didn't work out so Bennette was an " oh he's available last minute" and we just didn't get the paperwork done.
I’d throw Tovide in there potentially too. Target A, Dale, Tovide and then Bennette was so last minute because Tovide fell through
Oh yes of course. Hopefully that's one we go back to in the summer because he's got the attributes to potentially replace Chuks.
Admits we wanted a wide man, other than not much new
Also, we only signed Mcintyre as a replacement for REG.
We signed McIntyre for competition to Gillesphey. Alex Mitchell has the job to fill in for any of the 3 potential CB roles for injuries at the moment.
Not according to NJ today at the press conference.
Just went back to listen: REG wanted more game time so we got McIntyre in. Nathan didn't say replace REG on the bench!
NJ then said McIntyre is a LEFT footed CB and Gillesphey is the only one we have.
IF McIntyre comes into the team it will be for Gillesphey. TBF to Gillesphey he has had some effective games in the last six but the mandatory mistakes negate his headers and decent play.
McIntyre won't replace Jones and Ramsey is allowing Small to spend more time attacking down the right side and I like the combo between Kayne and Thierry.
Personally I have always wanted Ramsey, Small and Edwards all in the team together but I didn't see Small doing so well on the right and assumed it would be on the left playing in front of Edwards.
I'm sorry, I think you missed my point. My mistake, it wasn't that expansive. I appreciate he is LEFT footed and brought in as competition for Gillesphey. I was at Blackpool the other day, so I'm well aware of Gillesphey's shortcomings.
My point was, that we only looked to rebalance the squad AFTER selling REG. It wasn't on the cards to bring McIntyre in as competition until we had sold a player. It would have been madness to bring in a right footed player with Watson, Ramsey and Mitchell in the squad.
From what the Colchester manager said they were expecting Tovide to go and he didn’t because things weren’t quite right or words to that effect. @AFKABartram posted the link a few pages ago.
I assume there was a Target A then Owen Dale didn't work out so Bennette was an " oh he's available last minute" and we just didn't get the paperwork done.
I’d throw Tovide in there potentially too. Target A, Dale, Tovide and then Bennette was so last minute because Tovide fell through
So 3 players plus a last ditch attempt all failed.
I assume there was a Target A then Owen Dale didn't work out so Bennette was an " oh he's available last minute" and we just didn't get the paperwork done.
I’d throw Tovide in there potentially too. Target A, Dale, Tovide and then Bennette was so last minute because Tovide fell through
So 3 players plus a last ditch attempt all failed.
We aren't the draw some fans think we are then.
No way to know why those players didn’t come. You’re right that it could be us, could equally be them asking for too much money, the other club not wanting to sell, medical problems etc
Hopefully the comments about under 21 and academy lads being close means Dixon gets another opportunity to impress before the seasons out.
Dixon will get as much chance as you or I will. Another player that doesn't fit in with Nathan's "style of play" and therefore wont see any action unless we get an injury crisis......which knowing our luck will be next week !
Hopefully the comments about under 21 and academy lads being close means Dixon gets another opportunity to impress before the seasons out.
Dixon will get as much chance as you or I will. Another player that doesn't fit in with Nathan's "style of play" and therefore wont see any action unless we get an injury crisis......which knowing our luck will be next week !
Hopefully the comments about under 21 and academy lads being close means Dixon gets another opportunity to impress before the seasons out.
Dixon will get as much chance as you or I will. Another player that doesn't fit in with Nathan's "style of play" and therefore wont see any action unless we get an injury crisis......which knowing our luck will be next week !
What's that based on? I don't think Jones has an issue with Dixon, it's more that like any u21 player he'll be involved when he's ready.
Not many wanted Mbick and Casey in the first team when they kept scoring for the u21s. We might have paid a small fee for Dixon and he has caps for Jamaica, but he's not miles ahead of those two. If he was, he'd have made the first team bench more often.
I didn’t watch the Orient cup game but from my understanding Dixon played right wing back, is that correct?
Dixon is a striker and it’s unfair to write him off from a cup game where seemingly everyone played badly and he wasn’t in his natural position.
To me, if TC is to continue up front or just off the striker, Dixon needs to build strength the same way TC did and he’d be a good option. But the boy needs time.
And I think in time, we will see Dixon involved, but that might not happen until next season.
I didn’t watch the Orient cup game but from my understanding Dixon played right wing back, is that correct?
Dixon is a striker and it’s unfair to write him off from a cup game where seemingly everyone played badly and he wasn’t in his natural position.
To me, if TC is to continue up front or just off the striker, Dixon needs to build strength the same way TC did and he’d be a good option. But the boy needs time.
And I think in time, we will see Dixon involved, but that might not happen until next season.
I think it was right midfield in a flat 4-4-2, but either way I agree he’s a striker and we should be patient to let him develop.
I didn’t watch the Orient cup game but from my understanding Dixon played right wing back, is that correct?
Dixon is a striker and it’s unfair to write him off from a cup game where seemingly everyone played badly and he wasn’t in his natural position.
To me, if TC is to continue up front or just off the striker, Dixon needs to build strength the same way TC did and he’d be a good option. But the boy needs time.
And I think in time, we will see Dixon involved, but that might not happen until next season.
I think it was right midfield in a flat 4-4-2, but either way I agree he’s a striker and we should be patient to let him develop.
I think he would be worth sticking up front when we are desperate for a goal and lumping it up with Chucks attracting all the physical stuff. A natural finisher could do well
Hopefully the comments about under 21 and academy lads being close means Dixon gets another opportunity to impress before the seasons out
Hope not, unable to remember when he impressed the first time, unless it was getting the Peterborough game postponed.
He impressed in his cameo in the Birmingham game. In the Orient game he didn't stand out, but as many have said the entire club was at a low ebb at that point so it's unfair to judge him solely on that. He's stood out in the recent spat of academy games, and given the lack of depth in the squad when it comes to pacy, tricky forwards, I hope and expect he will get minutes before the end of the season.
Hopefully the comments about under 21 and academy lads being close means Dixon gets another opportunity to impress before the seasons out.
Dixon will get as much chance as you or I will. Another player that doesn't fit in with Nathan's "style of play" and therefore wont see any action unless we get an injury crisis......which knowing our luck will be next week !
What's that based on? I don't think Jones has an issue with Dixon, it's more that like any u21 player he'll be involved when he's ready.
Not many wanted Mbick and Casey in the first team when they kept scoring for the u21s. We might have paid a small fee for Dixon and he has caps for Jamaica, but he's not miles ahead of those two. If he was, he'd have made the first team bench more often.
We've been crying out for pace & something different since the start of the season. Dixon gives you both. Not saying he is the dogs bollox or anything like it......but no harm trying him for the last 10 mins when its 1-1 & you need all 3 points. You have the ability to name 7 subs & recently we've had 3 strikers within those 7 spots. Maybe try Dixon instead, esp when it seems we were looking at a raw recruit from Sunderland at 22.59 on Monday.
Quite a few entertaining opinions flying about, as to what the club is doing wrong. Reminds me of a bloke who said, 'What a pity we don't have the people running things who could put the world to rights but are instead driving cabs and cutting hair".
Quite a few entertaining opinions flying about, as to what the club is doing wrong. Reminds me of a bloke who said, 'What a pity we don't have the people running things who could put the world to rights but are instead driving cabs and cutting hair".
Pretty shit quote. I don't do either of those as careers, but cab drivers and hairdressers/barbers can be some of the wittiest or knowledgeable people you will meet.
In a job where you spend most of your day in close contact with strangers, you have the potential to become a bit of an information sponge and have access to a network of different people from all walks of life to engage with.
I know that comes a bit serious, but that's just one of the laziest and short sighted things I've read to undermine someone's value in life based on their career.
Hopefully the comments about under 21 and academy lads being close means Dixon gets another opportunity to impress before the seasons out.
Dixon will get as much chance as you or I will. Another player that doesn't fit in with Nathan's "style of play" and therefore wont see any action unless we get an injury crisis......which knowing our luck will be next week !
What's that based on? I don't think Jones has an issue with Dixon, it's more that like any u21 player he'll be involved when he's ready.
Not many wanted Mbick and Casey in the first team when they kept scoring for the u21s. We might have paid a small fee for Dixon and he has caps for Jamaica, but he's not miles ahead of those two. If he was, he'd have made the first team bench more often.
We've been crying out for pace & something different since the start of the season. Dixon gives you both. Not saying he is the dogs bollox or anything like it......but no harm trying him for the last 10 mins when its 1-1 & you need all 3 points. You have the ability to name 7 subs & recently we've had 3 strikers within those 7 spots. Maybe try Dixon instead, esp when it seems we were looking at a raw recruit from Sunderland at 22.59 on Monday.
No harm - that depends on why he’s not involved yet. We’ve seen throwing young players in too early can knock their confidence and sometimes it takes a lot of work to build it back up. Less risk with short cameos of course but I think we can trust Jones to play him at the right time.
Golfie you would be the first to have a meltdown if we brought Dixon on at 1-1 with 10 minutes to go, and because of his naivety or lack of physicality, fails to track back or gets the ball nicked off him doing a trick, and the opposition score.
I understand a football forum is a place for views. But the strong opinions people have when they have such a small snippet of knowledge and the day to days facts never fails to surprise me.
CAFC last 10 games: W6 D3 L1=21 points A very good return for the last 10 League games. From 14th to 7th place.
Unless we paid good money for an in form wide man from League 1 or 2, did we really want to go back to the Steve Gallen list of 5 players for a position and then at the last minute get the 6th choice after knock backs from the other 5 ? Rhetorical question as it's a NO.
Gilbert has played so few game for a 23 year old that it's a big risk and McIntyre has had mixed reviews but we hope they are similar to Leicester fans on Yann or CAFC critics on Simon Francis.
I'm having a real battle trying to be optimistic (7th to 10th was my pick back in August) and we would need the nucleus of the team to stay fit to give us a chance of 5th or 6th.
Nathan Jones took 20 odd games to see width was paramount and Small and TC need to stay fit.
I hope we don't rue the inability to get another player who can operate wide with some pace or trickery.
People keep saying Dixon impressed in the Birmingham game but it was Stockport he came off the bench for not Birmingham. His only other appearances are in the EFL trophy, the start against Orient where everyone was crap and 15 mins against Chelsea U21s.
He was lively in his 5 minutes against Stockport and pressed well but it was only 5 minutes. I don’t think he’s been given long enough in a proper senior match for most of us to have an informed opinion. If Jones feels he isn’t ready, he probably isn’t ready
CAFC last 10 games: W6 D3 L1=21 points A very good return for the last 10 League games. From 14th to 7th place.
Unless we paid good money for an in form wide man from League 1 or 2, did we really want to go back to the Steve Gallen list of 5 players for a position and then at the last minute get the 6th choice after knock backs from the other 5 ? Rhetorical question as it's a NO.
Gilbert has played so few game for a 23 year old that it's a big risk and McIntyre has had mixed reviews but we hope they are similar to Leicester fans on Yann or CAFC critics on Simon Francis.
I'm having a real battle trying to be optimistic (7th to 10th was my pick back in August) and we would need the nucleus of the team to stay fit to give us a chance of 5th or 6th.
Nathan Jones took 20 odd games to see width was paramount and Small and TC need to stay fit.
I hope we don't rue the inability to get another player who can operate wide with some pace or trickery.
Nathan's answer is that we have those options in the Academy / U21's (his interview yesterday) but I've just been slated by @FishCostaFortune for suggesting using Dixon because we didn't strengthen in those areas.
Not having a go at @FishCostaFortune ......more having a go at NJ for saying one thing but then not doing it.
CAFC last 10 games: W6 D3 L1=21 points A very good return for the last 10 League games. From 14th to 7th place.
Unless we paid good money for an in form wide man from League 1 or 2, did we really want to go back to the Steve Gallen list of 5 players for a position and then at the last minute get the 6th choice after knock backs from the other 5 ? Rhetorical question as it's a NO.
Gilbert has played so few game for a 23 year old that it's a big risk and McIntyre has had mixed reviews but we hope they are similar to Leicester fans on Yann or CAFC critics on Simon Francis.
I'm having a real battle trying to be optimistic (7th to 10th was my pick back in August) and we would need the nucleus of the team to stay fit to give us a chance of 5th or 6th.
Nathan Jones took 20 odd games to see width was paramount and Small and TC need to stay fit.
I hope we don't rue the inability to get another player who can operate wide with some pace or trickery.
Nathan's answer is that we have those options in the Academy / U21's (his interview yesterday) but I've just been slated by @FishCostaFortune for suggesting using Dixon because we didn't strengthen in those areas.
Not having a go at @FishCostaFortune ......more having a go at NJ for saying one thing but then not doing it.
Nathan and Charlie say a lot of things and don’t do them, full of waffle the pair of them
Quite a few entertaining opinions flying about, as to what the club is doing wrong. Reminds me of a bloke who said, 'What a pity we don't have the people running things who could put the world to rights but are instead driving cabs and cutting hair".
Pretty shit quote. I don't do either of those as careers, but cab drivers and hairdressers/barbers can be some of the wittiest or knowledgeable people you will meet.
In a job where you spend most of your day in close contact with strangers, you have the potential to become a bit of an information sponge and have access to a network of different people from all walks of life to engage with.
I know that comes a bit serious, but that's just one of the laziest and short sighted things I've read to undermine someone's value in life based on their career.
Blimey, thank goodness Major didn't share the full original quote.
"What a pity we don't have the people running things who could put the world to rights but are instead driving cabs, cutting hair and vlogging"
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We signed McIntyre for competition to Gillesphey.
Alex Mitchell has the job to fill in for any of the 3 potential CB roles for injuries at the moment.
Just went back to listen:
REG wanted more game time so we got McIntyre in.
Nathan didn't say replace REG on the bench!
NJ then said McIntyre is a LEFT footed CB and Gillesphey is the only one we have.
IF McIntyre comes into the team it will be for Gillesphey. TBF to Gillesphey he has had some effective games in the last six but the mandatory mistakes negate his headers and decent play.
McIntyre won't replace Jones and Ramsey is allowing Small to spend more time attacking down the right side and I like the combo between Kayne and Thierry.
Personally I have always wanted Ramsey, Small and Edwards all in the team together but I didn't see Small doing so well on the right and assumed it would be on the left playing in front of Edwards.
We aren't the draw some fans think we are then.
Not many wanted Mbick and Casey in the first team when they kept scoring for the u21s. We might have paid a small fee for Dixon and he has caps for Jamaica, but he's not miles ahead of those two. If he was, he'd have made the first team bench more often.
Dixon is a striker and it’s unfair to write him off from a cup game where seemingly everyone played badly and he wasn’t in his natural position.
To me, if TC is to continue up front or just off the striker, Dixon needs to build strength the same way TC did and he’d be a good option. But the boy needs time.
And I think in time, we will see Dixon involved, but that might not happen until next season.
Reminds me of a bloke who said, 'What a pity we don't have the people running things who could put the world to rights but are instead driving cabs and cutting hair".
In a job where you spend most of your day in close contact with strangers, you have the potential to become a bit of an information sponge and have access to a network of different people from all walks of life to engage with.
I know that comes a bit serious, but that's just one of the laziest and short sighted things I've read to undermine someone's value in life based on their career.
I understand a football forum is a place for views. But the strong opinions people have when they have such a small snippet of knowledge and the day to days facts never fails to surprise me.
A very good return for the last 10 League games.
From 14th to 7th place.
Unless we paid good money for an in form wide man from League 1 or 2, did we really want to go back to the Steve Gallen list of 5 players for a position and then at the last minute get the 6th choice after knock backs from the other 5 ? Rhetorical question as it's a NO.
Gilbert has played so few game for a 23 year old that it's a big risk and McIntyre has had mixed reviews but we hope they are similar to Leicester fans on Yann or CAFC critics on Simon Francis.
I'm having a real battle trying to be optimistic (7th to 10th was my pick back in August) and we would need the nucleus of the team to stay fit to give us a chance of 5th or 6th.
Nathan Jones took 20 odd games to see width was paramount and Small and TC need to stay fit.
I hope we don't rue the inability to get another player who can operate wide with some pace or trickery.
He was lively in his 5 minutes against Stockport and pressed well but it was only 5 minutes. I don’t think he’s been given long enough in a proper senior match for most of us to have an informed opinion. If Jones feels he isn’t ready, he probably isn’t ready
Not having a go at @FishCostaFortune ......more having a go at NJ for saying one thing but then not doing it.
"What a pity we don't have the people running things who could put the world to rights but are instead driving cabs, cutting hair and vlogging"