One or two , I'm guessing CAM and a winger/striker that can take some of the load off of TC. LCB is difficult enough to recruit in the summer let alone Jan.
I've got a feeling we're going to be underwhelmed with the incomings, interested to hear what everyone's got to say this evening
We’ve had plenty of players fail to meet high expectations, and plenty who were well above what was expected.
I’m hopeful any signings can have a positive impact given we’re only after a couple rather than having to spread our budget between several players to plug multiple gaps.
"Pretty convinced" that it will happen before "the window shuts" seems near enough to be tacitly saying that absolutely nothing is imminent. Most likely to be next week and I would guess towards the later end of it before we see any real indications at all.
Even Cawley hasn't been given/giving anything specific so you have to imagine we're not close to anything happening.
One or two , I'm guessing CAM and a winger/striker that can take some of the load off of TC. LCB is difficult enough to recruit in the summer let alone Jan.
Sean Roughan, 23 yrs old. Lincoln. Decent. Out of contract in the summer. Lincoln are small, offer them cash now LCB
One or two , I'm guessing CAM and a winger/striker that can take some of the load off of TC. LCB is difficult enough to recruit in the summer let alone Jan.
Sean Roughan, 23 yrs old. Lincoln. Decent. Out of contract in the summer. Lincoln are small, offer them cash now LCB
A lot of the time players will prefer to run their contract down than move in January. Will mean they can demand a better contract with there being no transfer fee. So it’s not always as easy as just looking at players with 6 months left
Nathan Jones doesn't want us to sign exciting young talent from the likes of Palace (JRS) and Chelsea (Gallagher) because we are just improving players for other teams. And that we might only have them for half a season as they could get recalled in January.
BUT
He is happy for us to sign aging players like Hylton, or dull useless players like A. Campbell (who is a loanee - wtf ?) & Potts (on short term contracts that might not last a whole season....wtf ?).
Not just double standards but utterly bewildering & non-sensical.
Nathan Jones doesn't want us to sign exciting young talent from the likes of Palace (JRS) and Chelsea (Gallagher) because we are just improving players for other teams. And that we might only have them for half a season as they could get recalled in January.
BUT
He is happy for us to sign aging players like Hylton, or dull useless players like A. Campbell (who is a loanee - wtf ?) & Potts (on short term contracts that might not last a whole season....wtf ?).
Not just double standards but utterly bewildering & non-sensical.
Someone make it make sense.
Loans are a gamble, the player might not fit in and we have had many who were not as good as we/they thought they were. They may not want to risk injury at a lower team, and they could be expensive.
Old ex players, known to the manager may bring in experience, fill a specific role for the manager (ie coaching), may be cheaper and because they are known to manager are less risky.
I understand to a degree a manager that works in a such a particular way as NJ that bringing in someone like Luke Berry that worked with him for years, understands the standards he expects and can still offer something on the pitch that makes sense. Potts and Hylton I don't especially understand especially with Potts's injury history.
Allan Campbell just feels like a player on the downslope who was good a couple of years ago but has just completely lost it. We've signed too many of those in recent years both on loan and permanent.
I get the whole Rodwell argument of not wanting to "block" academy talent , but the academy has got to be churning out a constant stream of talent that's good enough so that's a big pressure to have. If there isn't an outstanding academy player in a certain position then I've got no problem with a high level loan signing from a prem side.
They weren’t opposed to loans prior to Nathan Jones coming in so it’s clearly a directive from the manager.
For every Rak-Sakyi, Gallagher or Cullen there’s a Nile John, Juan Castillo, Chem Campbell, Slobodan Tedic, Louie Watson…
That’s the same principle for signing players permanently as well though, should they be stopped too? For every Ramsey, Small and Lloyd Jones there’s Ahadme, Potts and Hylton.
Nathan Jones doesn't want us to sign exciting young talent from the likes of Palace (JRS) and Chelsea (Gallagher) because we are just improving players for other teams. And that we might only have them for half a season as they could get recalled in January.
BUT
He is happy for us to sign aging players like Hylton, or dull useless players like A. Campbell (who is a loanee - wtf ?) & Potts (on short term contracts that might not last a whole season....wtf ?).
Not just double standards but utterly bewildering & non-sensical.
Someone make it make sense.
Dear Bewildered,
A manager will be given a budget. Loans cost money, may not work out, may come with strings attached as to playing time and position, can block youth team development leading to early departures which can impact future advancement of the team and profits from sales. They can also be recalled, which can be very frustrating as you are then left scratching around trying to find a replacement and team morale could drop. It won’t work all the time and if performance drops off the following season you will be sacked.
Mature players will be moving down the leagues as they are no longer wanted by their clubs which reduces the risks listed. They are also a known quantity who can also offer younger players advice and support. Their experience is essential IMO when you have a lot of young players in your squad.
Hylton was bought in mainly for coaching reasons. Potts was bought in because our defence had been non existent the previous season and looked a good stop gap until we could find better. A Campbell had a lot of Championship experience, was only 26(?) and on paper a good signing. Pity he wasn’t good on grass. Jones obviously thought he could get him back to his best, you can’t win everything.
Overall I agree with Jones.
I would rather the budget be spent on keeping players like Jones and buying players, but still have an open mind on the possibilities of a loan if we don’t have a player of sufficient quality or a youth player that can step up.
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Says Ronnie Moore tomorrow
Hopefully the players brought in are improvements on what we have rather than squad fillers
I’m hopeful any signings can have a positive impact given we’re only after a couple rather than having to spread our budget between several players to plug multiple gaps.
Even Cawley hasn't been given/giving anything specific so you have to imagine we're not close to anything happening.
In their favour!
Sean Roughan, 23 yrs old. Lincoln. Decent. Out of contract in the summer. Lincoln are small, offer them cash now
LCB
Nathan Jones doesn't want us to sign exciting young talent from the likes of Palace (JRS) and Chelsea (Gallagher) because we are just improving players for other teams. And that we might only have them for half a season as they could get recalled in January.
BUT
He is happy for us to sign aging players like Hylton, or dull useless players like A. Campbell (who is a loanee - wtf ?) & Potts (on short term contracts that might not last a whole season....wtf ?).
Not just double standards but utterly bewildering & non-sensical.
Someone make it make sense.
For every Rak-Sakyi, Gallagher or Cullen there’s a Nile John, Juan Castillo, Chem Campbell, Slobodan Tedic, Louie Watson…
Old ex players, known to the manager may bring in experience, fill a specific role for the manager (ie coaching), may be cheaper and because they are known to manager are less risky.
Will that do.
Allan Campbell just feels like a player on the downslope who was good a couple of years ago but has just completely lost it. We've signed too many of those in recent years both on loan and permanent.
I get the whole Rodwell argument of not wanting to "block" academy talent , but the academy has got to be churning out a constant stream of talent that's good enough so that's a big pressure to have. If there isn't an outstanding academy player in a certain position then I've got no problem with a high level loan signing from a prem side.
A manager will be given a budget.
Loans cost money, may not work out, may come with strings attached as to playing time and position, can block youth team development leading to early departures which can impact future advancement of the team and profits from sales. They can also be recalled, which can be very frustrating as you are then left scratching around trying to find a replacement and team morale could drop.
It won’t work all the time and if performance drops off the following season you will be sacked.
Hylton was bought in mainly for coaching reasons. Potts was bought in because our defence had been non existent the previous season and looked a good stop gap until we could find better. A Campbell had a lot of Championship experience, was only 26(?) and on paper a good signing. Pity he wasn’t good on grass. Jones obviously thought he could get him back to his best, you can’t win everything.
Overall I agree with Jones.