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Palace and Europe ?

DaveStorryDaveStorry
edited January 2012 in General Charlton
I've tried to find the answer but can't see anything on uefa website re qualification for next sesaons Europa league.

CP fan here thinks they get in Europa Lge, (If they get to final, of course) even if they don't win it, providing either Man C or Liverpool, qualify for Ch League.

I thought, should that happen, then the Europa Lge place place goes to the next highest in Prem League and not to the CC Cup Runners up.

Anyone throw any light on this ?
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  • THEMCATHEMCA
    Pretty sure it goes to league not league cup runner up
  • Czech_AddickCzech_Addick
    They would have to win the cup. If the winners qualify for Champs League or Europa via the league or FA Cup, the place goes to the Premier League (6th place I think?)
  • PeakieRocketPeakieRocket
    That's what happens with the FA Cup (hence Stoke in Europe this season)

    Not sure about league cup though
  • C_A_F_CC_A_F_C
    edited January 2012
    You have to win the League Cup to be in Europe.
  • MuttleyCAFCMuttleyCAFC
    You have to win the League Cup - runner up is only FA Cup. Anyway, come on you Bluebirds!
  • MrLargoMrLargo
    As stated above, you have to win the league cup to get into Europe. If the side that wins it is qualifies through their final league position then the League Cup Europa spot goes to highest finishing club in the Prem outside of the automatic Europa slots. This has always been the case, hence when Wigan lost 4-0 to Man U in the League Cup Final a few years back they did not get to play in the Europa League the following season. The nearest Palace will get to playing in Europe is when they go to Wales tomorrow night.

    Conversely, in the FA Cup the runner-up does qualify for Europe if the winner has qualified through the League. I seem to recall that, a few years back, one side (possibly Newcastle) qualified for Europe just by getting to the semi-finals, because the other 3 semi-finalists, Chelsea, Man U and Arsenal had all qualified for the Champions League.

    Can't make up my mind whether I'd rather see Palace thrashed 6-0 tomorrow, or lose to a heartbreaking, last minute of extra-time winner. Either way, it'll be nice to see some of their Ultras having a sob on the telly (presuming they've been allowed out on a school night.
  • DaveStorryDaveStorry
    Thanks all.

    I'll be pleased to put him right should they sneak through tomorrow.
  • last_linelast_line
    edited January 2012
    MrLargo - Definitely the last minute extra time winner for Cardiff - either the most shockingly bad refereeing decision for a penalty to the Bluebirds, or McCarthorse OG. Would bring back memories of that day at The Valley when they were safe at one point (mainly due to Jacques Cousteau) until Jonny Fortune sent them down - that day would not have been as fulfilling had we hammered them 6-0.
  • MrLargoMrLargo
    @last-line
    I make you right mate, have fond memories of Steve Claridge's 120th minute winner for Leicester against the Nigels in the Play-off final back in the mid 90's - the look of disbelief and devastation on their spotty little faces still brings a smile to my face!

    So my ideal scenario is a last minute of extra time og by McCarthorse, looping the ball over Speroni from the edge of the penalty area. I still like the idea of a 6-0 thrashing though, but I'm happy to wait until Charlton's visit to Selhurst next season to see that. ;-)
  • Sparrows Lane LionSparrows Lane Lion
    I hope they get turned over massively.

    It's a shame it's not at Ninian Park where the locals could've have intimidated them to tears and slapped the Ultras all around Cardiff.
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  • guinnessaddickguinnessaddick
    They are playing in Europe tonight, I hope that's as far as they go.
  • tangoflashtangoflash
    On the flip side, It might be funny to watch them getting spanked in some russian backwater. ;-)

    Can't see them getting anywhere though.

    Wouldn't be too bad for them to stay in this competition for a bit longer as it seems to have affected their league standing of late.
  • MrLargoMrLargo
    Don't think they're going up or down this season, regardless of cup progress, so best they got knocked out now. Really don't want to spend an afternoon watching a load of acne-ridden teenagers waving their foam hands around. Should think the old bill are dreading the prospect of Palace getting to the final - would be a policing nightmare having to provide an escort for the Ultras all the way from Croydon to Wembley.
  • cafc4evercafc4ever
    Just got to say COME ON CARDIFF !
  • bloodnutbloodnut
    palace and napoli ultras going toe to toe... tuff one to call that?
  • FiiiiiishFiiiiiish
    Would never hear the end of it if they got into Europe....but the players being exhausted every week for league games to see them relegated, that season would do nicely.
  • MarcusH26MarcusH26
    Daft that they didn't see this coming. Marinakis put Forest into a trust to clear any issues for them , Brighton and Villa had similar issues they had to resolve regarding owning other clubs in European competitions. 

    Then again Textor does seem like a complete idiot. 
  • CallumcafcCallumcafc
    I’m sure they’ll get it sorted but watching them sweat is amusing.
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  • soapy_jonessoapy_jones
    edited June 2

  • stoneroses19stoneroses19
    Is owning multiple clubs common these days or is this a Palace thing having both the majority owner and part owner owning other clubs in Europe. 
  • iaitchiaitch
    It's more common nowadays with the big clubs wanting to hoover up all the talent so no one else can get them.

  • soapy_jonessoapy_jones
    It's called "A Roland"...
  • BigRedEvilBigRedEvil
    I read it's based on league position of the club apparently so on both counts they wouldn't qualify and would hand the spot to Brighton  :D I'm sure they'll work something out but if they don't, but if they don't I could see Glasner, Eze looking for a club which does 
  • Chris_from_SidcupChris_from_Sidcup
    They'll definitely work something out. If Leipzig/Salzburg and Man City/Girona can get around it so they could all play in the CL last season, then i'm sure Palace will find a way.

    Textor doesn't even have a controlling share in Palace, but the latest reports are that he is now looking to sell what he does own.
  • blackpool72blackpool72
    soapy_jones said:
    It's called "A Roland"...
    No.
    Roland hoovered up all the crap player's. 
  • JustFloydRoadJustFloydRoad
    BigRedEvil said:
    I read it's based on league position of the club apparently so on both counts they wouldn't qualify and would hand the spot to Brighton  :D I'm sure they'll work something out but if they don't, but if they don't I could see Glasner, Eze looking for a club which does 
    I hear they might get a cheap deal to go to Lyon
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