Lifers after Death.
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I think people who read the bible on the train are more deserving of strange looks.FishCostaFortune said:
I highly recconmend it. Even if you might get some strange looks on the train whilst reading it ha ha.Dave2l said:I just thought of getting this today and wrote on another thread, sounds like a purchase.
I enjoyed the 'God Delusion' but he was preaching to the converted. I'd be interested to know what non-atheists think of it.
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he knows more than me ;-)Oggy Red said:
Just one man's opinion, though.FishCostaFortune said:I am currently reading 'The God Delusion' by Richard Dawkins. Pretty much says everything I feel on the subject in a much more coherent and intelligent way then I could
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http://users.ox.ac.uk/~orie0087/pdf_files/General untechnical papers/The Existence of God.pdfShootersHillGuru said:
I see your point Oggy but Dawkins looks to cast doubt on why religion is held in such importance and has huge influence in world affairs and yet is based on nothing more than myth with any more credibility than believing in eg the Loch Ness monster. He does a very good job too.Oggy Red said:
Just one man's opinion, though.FishCostaFortune said:I am currently reading 'The God Delusion' by Richard Dawkins. Pretty much says everything I feel on the subject in a much more coherent and intelligent way then I could
He doesn't actually know any more than you or me.
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I'm really tempted but I just wonder given that I don't believe in life after death that what I have left in this my only life is far too short to listen to them.
If you never learn about things just because you disagree with the premise the rest of the time you have left maybe somewhat empty and unfulfilled.0 -
THIS .. Just how many redistributory 'big bangs' have there been ?ShootersHillGuru said:If by life after death we mean that when I am dead the atoms that currently help make up ShootersHillGuru are eventually randomly redistributed throughout the cosmos to end up for example in a leaf or rabbit or in my case more likely the big toenail of the then England centre forward then yes there is life after death. If by life after death we mean any of the notions associated with religious beliefs then no.
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Gotta agree with that, about time The Clairvoyant was put back into the set. Donington next year would be a good place to start!Leroy Ambrose said:
Great ALBUMFriend Or Defoe said:
Great song.Off_it said:There's a time to live and a time to die
When it's time to meet the maker
There's a time to live but isn't it strange
That as soon as you're born you're dying
- Steve Harris
Re the subject in hand I'm pretty sure there's nothing afterwards but I would guess that a lot of people like me cling on to the belief we'll go on in some way or another as we don't like the idea that death is the absolute end of us. Whether the 'afterwards' is up there or down there is open to speculation.....
"The world is full of Kings and Queens
Who blind your eyes then steal your dreams
...it's Heaven and Hell"
Tony Iommi & Ronnie James Dio - 1980
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When you cut your finger nails, or your hair, do they go to heaven? Do they have any conscious thought? Or are they dead pieces of matter that will soon disappear from this world?! I believe the latter, and no reason to think the other parts of my body are any different!0
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the burden of proof is not with the believers as they havnt asked the question.
There is a God but i have no religion.
As for an after life ? not sure what that would be ? my wife is a Budhist so does she go to their heaven (eventually) and i wont be there as i dont have her beliefs (yes i know lucky her)0 -
Knowing my luck I'll come back as myself!!!
On a more serious note I think that it's all a load of crap. To me death means death.0 -
You'd come back as an Arsenal supporter?Goonerhater said:
As for an after life ? not sure what that would be ?
;o)
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Well I've already ducked and covered my ears....Oggy Red said:
You'd come back as an Arsenal supporter?Goonerhater said:
As for an after life ? not sure what that would be ?
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If I locked my young son in a room, with no tv/internet or contact with anyone, would he start praying to a God? Of course not as he has not been conditioned to believe there is a god or there is a concept of relgion, let alone life after death.
All that will remain after I die are the memories others have of me and some postings I have made on the internet.0 -
In 1000s of years time after empires have risen, fallen, risen and fallen again all that will be left of so called civilisation will be tatty print outs of ancient "Charlton Life" threads that will be poured over by scholars for meaning.
The significance of SISS, ETCYT and LLLBH will be debated long into the night. The true meanings will be known only to the high priests of the new religion known as "clique"
Denying the divinity of the Great AFKA will become a crime punishable by burning.
Wars will be fought over which is the true path to enlightenment. Is it the Lib or the Oak?
Children will be told that if they do not eat all their food or go to bed the evil spirits known as SparrowsLaneLion and Bunny will get them.
There is no god but AFKA and Lookout is his prophet0 -
I like to think there is, mainly in the vain hope of meeting up with a couple of people again. But im not hopeful if im honest.0
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When you're not looking we delete all your posts!MrOneLung said:If I locked my young son in a room, with no tv/internet or contact with anyone, would he start praying to a God? Of course not as he has not been conditioned to believe there is a god or there is a concept of relgion, let alone life after death.
All that will remain after I die are the memories others have of me and some postings I have made on the internet.0 -
You're quite right as far as people with their own private beliefs is concerned, as long as they seek only to keep those beliefs to themselves. However, for anyone who wants to convince a rational person of anything, then there is most definately a burden of proof. In this case need for proof, that has most definately remained unfulfilled and I confidently predict will continue to do so.Goonerhater said:the burden of proof is not with the believers as they havnt asked the question...
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But Henry, I thought Charlton Life was a non-prophet organisation?Henry Irving said:
There is no god but AFKA and Lookout is his prophet
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Brilliant stuff the two of you. They are my favourite posts on CL this year.A-R-T-H-U-R said:
But Henry, I thought Charlton Life was a non-prophet organisation?Henry Irving said:
There is no god but AFKA and Lookout is his prophet
As for me, I think that there is life after death. It's just that you don't get to live it yourself.
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Life after death= Not gauranteed
Death after life= Gauranteed0 -
Spell check after life ?BaronPaolo said:Life after death= Not gauranteed
Death after life= Gauranteed
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Spell checking during life = Not guaranteed
Not spell checking after death =Guaranteed
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'Nice to see ya to see ya nice! Here's a song off 'Piece of Mind' this one, written about religion- or about washing your car, that's about as easy as opening a pair of curtains- song's called 'Revelations' this one!'Off_it said:
Bruce Dickinson, Long Beach Arena, 1985
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