Royal Rumble
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But you CAN place a bet!0
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I simply don't understand that. The outcome of the match is pre-determined long before the bell rings.Ollywozere said:But you CAN place a bet!
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You could bet on Eastenders, how derek branning died. Thats scripted.Rizzo said:
I simply don't understand that. The outcome of the match is pre-determined long before the bell rings.Ollywozere said:But you CAN place a bet!
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Tell that to Brett Hart. He got screwed back in the day.Rizzo said:
I simply don't understand that. The outcome of the match is pre-determined long before the bell rings.Ollywozere said:But you CAN place a bet!
I'm being serious.
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I guess the thing is that only a very small amount of people (in the US) are privy to the outcome and are unlikely to be placing bets in the UK anyway. And it's no different really from say, a manager (let's say Redknapp) lumping on himself to move to his next club when he already knows the outcome. (which may or may not have happened when he returned to Pompey!)Rizzo said:
I simply don't understand that. The outcome of the match is pre-determined long before the bell rings.Ollywozere said:But you CAN place a bet!
But yeah, I do agree, if I were a bookies it's not something I would be taking bets on!
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Rizzo said:
I simply don't understand that. The outcome of the match is pre-determined long before the bell rings.Ollywozere said:But you CAN place a bet!
The outcome is only ever known by a handful of people within the organisation, it's not common knowledge and the general public can only guess.
But for the reason that the outcome is known, bookies will only ever let you stake a few quid. You certainly couldn't go in and ask for £5k on something, these 'novelty' markets are restricted to something between £25-50 maximum bet.0 -
had a monkey on Branning being suffocated by Cena.
lost the lot.0 -
Wrestling is not scripted though its 2 athletes going at itValleyGary said:
You could bet on Eastenders, how derek branning died. Thats scripted.Rizzo said:
I simply don't understand that. The outcome of the match is pre-determined long before the bell rings.Ollywozere said:But you CAN place a bet!
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Ollywozere said:
I guess the thing is that only a very small amount of people (in the US) are privy to the outcome and are unlikely to be placing bets in the UK anyway.Rizzo said:
I simply don't understand that. The outcome of the match is pre-determined long before the bell rings.Ollywozere said:But you CAN place a bet!
Exactly, if a Mr V McMahon logs on and wants to bet on it the bookie might suspect something but your average punter in the UK is only ever going to be guessing. Bookies are not stupid.0 -
And of course the outcome can and often does change right up until the last minute going into a match.Chris_from_Sidcup said:Ollywozere said:
I guess the thing is that only a very small amount of people (in the US) are privy to the outcome and are unlikely to be placing bets in the UK anyway.Rizzo said:
I simply don't understand that. The outcome of the match is pre-determined long before the bell rings.Ollywozere said:But you CAN place a bet!
Exactly, if a Mr V McMahon logs on and wants to bet on it the bookie might suspect something but your average punter in the UK is only ever going to be guessing. Bookies are not stupid.
Now in play betting would be an interesting idea for Wrestling!
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VG I respect your rounded and unbiased views but if that were the case the scriptwriter of East Enders could write that Stacey died wrestling a Gorrilla in custard...can you imagine the odds youd get on that...at a guess 1,000,000 / 1 Nice retiremeant for a quid!ValleyGary said:
You could bet on Eastenders, how derek branning died. Thats scripted.Rizzo said:
I simply don't understand that. The outcome of the match is pre-determined long before the bell rings.Ollywozere said:But you CAN place a bet!
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Watched a lot when I was a teenager. Yes it is scripted but these guys do feel pain and do suffer. The amount of young deaths in the industry speaks volumes.
This clip will absolutely blow your mind, I'm telling you.
youtube.com/watch?v=HRGF9A1KiGY0 -
But you can bet on it and Eastenders!maybe_baby said:
VG I respect your rounded and unbiased views but if that were the case the scriptwriter of East Enders could write that Stacey died wrestling a Gorrilla in custard...can you imagine the odds youd get on that...at a guess 1,000,000 / 1 Nice retiremeant for a quid!ValleyGary said:
You could bet on Eastenders, how derek branning died. Thats scripted.Rizzo said:
I simply don't understand that. The outcome of the match is pre-determined long before the bell rings.Ollywozere said:But you CAN place a bet!
WSS, Bret screwed Bret.0 -
What were their injuries?cafctom said:Watched a lot when I was a teenager. Yes it is scripted but these guys do feel pain and do suffer. The amount of young deaths in the industry speaks volumes.
This clip will absolutely blow your mind, I'm telling you.
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The list of guys who have died since I used to watch avidly in the late 90's - early 00's is frightening.
Big Bossman
British Bulldog
Crash Holly
Test
Eddie Guerrero
Chris Benoit (exception in that it was a murder/suicide)
Chris Candido
Umaga
Mike Awesome
Kanyon
Curt Henning
Bam Bam Biggalow
Hawk (Road warrior)
All relatively young guys. Scary
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I think there's probably a common factor responsible for most (if not all) of their deaths0
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In saying its faked I dont think anyone has said it wasnt dangerous. I dont not watch it because its boring, I dont watch it because its violent and for me that doesnt equate to entertainment...but each to their own.0
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Indeed. A mixture of Steroid abuse putting strain on the heart and brain issues due to multiple head shots (see Chris Benoit). Brutal reallyChris_from_Sidcup said:I think there's probably a common factor responsible for most (if not all) of their deaths
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You forgot the tragic death of Owen Hart during his ring entrance.Ollywozere said:The list of guys who have died since I used to watch avidly in the late 90's - early 00's is frightening.
Big Bossman
British Bulldog
Crash Holly
Test
Eddie Guerrero
Chris Benoit (exception in that it was a murder/suicide)
Chris Candido
Umaga
Mike Awesome
Kanyon
Curt Henning
Bam Bam Biggalow
Hawk (Road warrior)
All relatively young guys. Scary
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I started watching not long after that event but yes that was tragic. Thank god nothing similar has happened since0
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Used to watch a lot in my younger days, seen a little bit over the last few years and it just seems everyone is a body builder type and no characters about.
And everyone saying it's not real etc. I think 99% of the people who watch it know that the matches are all pre-determined but it can be good fun and you have to respect the amount of skill and athleticism involved.0 -
Addiction to painkillers took most of them out. The list is only a quarter of the size of the actual one.Chris_from_Sidcup said:I think there's probably a common factor responsible for most (if not all) of their deaths
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/wrestling/257371/109-wrestlers-die-in-a-decade.html
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Its not a sport its theater, but there is no doubting the strength, agility and bravery of some of them, the moves are real and some look incredible when they come off.
Anyway, predictions are:
Del Rio, Ziggler cashes in
Team Hell No! (what have they done to poor Kane? He used to be a demonic beast)
The Rock (loses to Cena at Wrestlemania in a long overdue heel turn for Cena)
Rumble winner: Orton, getting a renewed push into the big leagues after a couple of years jobbing in the mid card and getting injured0 -
I was watching the 'over the edge' pay per view live when Owen hart died it was tense, they never showed it going on they were filming the crowd only but they all looked shell shocked and JR kept saying that there has been a tragic accident and it was not part of the nights entertainment.
Like they say on the show all the time 'yes ladies and gentleman this is entertainment but the hazards are real, the dangers are real...'0 -
Rather watch Big Daddy v Haystacks meself0
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Looks like it was all a bit predictable then.
Del Rio won
The Rock won
and Cena won the Rumble
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It was a fantastic night of entertainment I watch it live and then watched it again on recording before finally hitting a wall. Just rocked up to work to find not too many watched it.0
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The return of the GODFATHER was brilliant. The HOOOOOOOO train!0
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isn't the clue in the adverts on sky sports when they say 'stunts take years to perfect' blah blah.....please don't try this at school !
for what it's worth I used to watch it in the 80's and thought it was brilliant0 -
Perhaps this should be on a different thread but speaking to Ben in the Lib saturday he admitted to missing an incident at the VIP meeting out of his report, apparently when SCP was talking about potential signings the lights went out, there was confusion and when they came on again "the Shield" had done him! I dont mind admitting I watch this light entertainment with my son who loves it, too much history channel makes for a dull life especially in my line of work. I have convinced my son that Big Show would loose a TLC match against Catweazle as well....0