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Guy Luzon: TBH not to continue

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  • cafcsinger
    cafcsinger Posts: 5,548
    Beer7 said:

    I wish I could add but I can't.

    In order words you don't have anything to add.
  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    Davo55 said:

    Davo55 said:

    Not surprised if he moves on. Class player but never quite looked as if his heart was in it at Charlton. If it gives Joe Gomez a lot more playing time I think it will be a good thing overall, provided we get Joe the right partner. Not sure that is either Johnson (too slow) or Bikey (too volatile and too slow).

    Joe Gomez is at the stage of his career where we have to be careful not to overplay him anyway, so it's not as if his path to the first team is being blocked by more experienced defenders
    Usually, with a youngster, I would agree with you 100%. With Joe, I'm not so sure. He is such an exceptional talent, fast and strong too, that he might well be able to cope with and prosper through playing as a first choice. That would certainly accelerate his development, and of course his sale value.
    Agreed and it could also delay his departure as he'll be concentrating on playing rather than sitting on the bench thinking "i could be doing this at Arsenal "
  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,071
    TBH was great first half of the season. Since January he's done very little imo when he has played
  • Beer7 said:

    GL today on an Israeli radio today: "I understand that TBH is moving on to his next position. He's out of contract. We have a 17 years old defender who is going places".

    Good riddance TBH. Awful player, awful person. Glad that Guy can see how much better will JG be.

    Claudio Bizarro.
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,372
    Can't find any source online which backs this up.
  • Charltonparklane
    Charltonparklane Posts: 5,786
    Beer7 said:

    GL today on an Israeli radio today: "I understand that TBH is moving on to his next position. He's out of contract. We have a 17 years old defender who is going places".

    Good riddance TBH. Awful player, awful person. Glad that Guy can see how much better will JG be.

    Cant believe you signed up a year ago and kept your first post or comment bottled up for that?

    Odd
  • purdis
    purdis Posts: 1,046
    edited May 2015
    Beer7 said:

    GL today on an Israeli radio today: "I understand that TBH is moving on to his next position. He's out of contract. We have a 17 years old defender who is going places".

    Good riddance TBH. Awful player, awful person. Glad that Guy can see how much better will JG be.

    TBH was crucial for us this season - really disappointed to hear that he's moving on.
    A quality defender, for sure.
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,824
    edited May 2015
    That was Peeters' biggest error - I.e getting rid of Morro
  • purdis
    purdis Posts: 1,046
    wmcf123 said:

    That was Peeters' biggest error - I.e getting rid of Morro

    Our defence wasn't our problem - it was as good as most.
    Scoring goals was the problem.
  • CharltonDave85
    CharltonDave85 Posts: 502
    edited May 2015
    I'm not a fan of him and think he has been shocking most the season. I have said that from day one.
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  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,824
    purdis said:

    wmcf123 said:

    That was Peeters' biggest error - I.e getting rid of Morro

    Our defence wasn't our problem - it was as good as most.
    Scoring goals was the problem.
    Both Bikey and Ben-Haim lost their form; morrison could do everything that Johnson could and is considerably younger. Also, a leader
  • purdis
    purdis Posts: 1,046
    wmcf123 said:

    purdis said:

    wmcf123 said:

    That was Peeters' biggest error - I.e getting rid of Morro

    Our defence wasn't our problem - it was as good as most.
    Scoring goals was the problem.
    Both Bikey and Ben-Haim lost their form; morrison could do everything that Johnson could and is considerably younger. Also, a leader
    Diasgree - look at last season - Morro was poor and our defence was poor.
    TBH did not lose form.
    Just my opinion, of course
  • Mr. Happy
    Mr. Happy Posts: 653

    I'm not a fan of him and think he has been shocking most the season. I have said that from day one.

    On day one you said he'd been shocking for most of the season?

    You must be a right clever clogs.

  • Bournemouth Addick
    Bournemouth Addick Posts: 16,283
    edited May 2015
    Whoah...it's my job outing trolls on here!
  • East_Stand_Loopy
    East_Stand_Loopy Posts: 2,205
    I think that JG needs an experienced organiser next to him. Johnson was doing that when he first started playing.

    TBH was a really good player at the start of the season, but didn't give the impression of a great organiser for youngsters.

    Another example of that working was when "The Tank" played alongside a young Jonathon Fortune.

    Interesting to see how the club will fill that role.
  • CharltonDave85
    CharltonDave85 Posts: 502
    edited May 2015
    Indeed I am :) also I meant I was not a fan of him from day one
    Mr. Happy said:

    I'm not a fan of him and think he has been shocking most the season. I have said that from day one.

    On day one you said he'd been shocking for most of the season?

    You must be a right clever clogs.

  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,037
    Thought he was the most consistently solid of our three senior centre back options. Best of luck to him, he only had a one year deal and now he's fully entitled to pursue other options.

    I'm not sure we can rely on Bikey & Johnson as first choices next year, ok for squad players - CB is a position that needs addressing as a priority this summer I believe, even if Gomez stays.
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,256
    RedChaser said:

    Beer7 said:

    GL today on an Israeli radio today: "I understand that TBH is moving on to his next position. He's out of contract. We have a 17 years old defender who is going places".

    Good riddance TBH. Awful player, awful person. Glad that Guy can see how much better will JG be.

    Congratulations. You've managed to reach the Top 100 stupid posts of 2015.
    Hmm, with his first discussion and post as well! Treat with caution fellow Addicks wouldn't be surprised if this was a Pompey fan in disguise :wink:
    ACKWORTH
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,171
    purdis said:

    wmcf123 said:

    purdis said:

    wmcf123 said:

    That was Peeters' biggest error - I.e getting rid of Morro

    Our defence wasn't our problem - it was as good as most.
    Scoring goals was the problem.
    Both Bikey and Ben-Haim lost their form; morrison could do everything that Johnson could and is considerably younger. Also, a leader
    Diasgree - look at last season - Morro was poor and our defence was poor.
    TBH did not lose form.
    Just my opinion, of course
    Morro wasn't poor last season. Our biggest struggle was our total inability to score goals. The only thing that stopped us being cut adrift was the fact our defence stood up enough for us to squeak out some wins off the few goals we scored
  • PL54
    PL54 Posts: 10,757

    I'm not a fan of him and think he has been shocking most the season. I have said that from day one.

    He's not been shocking - Church is shocking
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  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,037

    purdis said:

    wmcf123 said:

    purdis said:

    wmcf123 said:

    That was Peeters' biggest error - I.e getting rid of Morro

    Our defence wasn't our problem - it was as good as most.
    Scoring goals was the problem.
    Both Bikey and Ben-Haim lost their form; morrison could do everything that Johnson could and is considerably younger. Also, a leader
    Diasgree - look at last season - Morro was poor and our defence was poor.
    TBH did not lose form.
    Just my opinion, of course
    Morro wasn't poor last season. Our biggest struggle was our total inability to score goals. The only thing that stopped us being cut adrift was the fact our defence stood up enough for us to squeak out some wins off the few goals we scored
    Who was it playing alongside Morro last year ? I can picture him but can't remember the name.
  • Covered_End_Lad
    Covered_End_Lad Posts: 5,725
    se9addick said:

    purdis said:

    wmcf123 said:

    purdis said:

    wmcf123 said:

    That was Peeters' biggest error - I.e getting rid of Morro

    Our defence wasn't our problem - it was as good as most.
    Scoring goals was the problem.
    Both Bikey and Ben-Haim lost their form; morrison could do everything that Johnson could and is considerably younger. Also, a leader
    Diasgree - look at last season - Morro was poor and our defence was poor.
    TBH did not lose form.
    Just my opinion, of course
    Morro wasn't poor last season. Our biggest struggle was our total inability to score goals. The only thing that stopped us being cut adrift was the fact our defence stood up enough for us to squeak out some wins off the few goals we scored
    Who was it playing alongside Morro last year ? I can picture him but can't remember the name.
    Dorian dervite
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,825
    Thanks @Beer7 it's been known for a while that TBH is moving on, but cheers. No interest why you don't like him, but you might be surprised he had been one of our better performers this season and very consistent.

    Has there been much on Luzon in the Israeli press since he has joined us ?
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,037

    se9addick said:

    purdis said:

    wmcf123 said:

    purdis said:

    wmcf123 said:

    That was Peeters' biggest error - I.e getting rid of Morro

    Our defence wasn't our problem - it was as good as most.
    Scoring goals was the problem.
    Both Bikey and Ben-Haim lost their form; morrison could do everything that Johnson could and is considerably younger. Also, a leader
    Diasgree - look at last season - Morro was poor and our defence was poor.
    TBH did not lose form.
    Just my opinion, of course
    Morro wasn't poor last season. Our biggest struggle was our total inability to score goals. The only thing that stopped us being cut adrift was the fact our defence stood up enough for us to squeak out some wins off the few goals we scored
    Who was it playing alongside Morro last year ? I can picture him but can't remember the name.
    Dorian dervite
    I actually always thought Dervite was better sitting in front of the defence.

    It was Leon Clarke I was thinking of (just looked up last seasons squad).

    It's crazy how much our squad changes year on year, it's pretty much only Chris Solly who gets stuck with us year after year !
  • Covered_End_Lad
    Covered_End_Lad Posts: 5,725
    se9addick said:

    se9addick said:

    purdis said:

    wmcf123 said:

    purdis said:

    wmcf123 said:

    That was Peeters' biggest error - I.e getting rid of Morro

    Our defence wasn't our problem - it was as good as most.
    Scoring goals was the problem.
    Both Bikey and Ben-Haim lost their form; morrison could do everything that Johnson could and is considerably younger. Also, a leader
    Diasgree - look at last season - Morro was poor and our defence was poor.
    TBH did not lose form.
    Just my opinion, of course
    Morro wasn't poor last season. Our biggest struggle was our total inability to score goals. The only thing that stopped us being cut adrift was the fact our defence stood up enough for us to squeak out some wins off the few goals we scored
    Who was it playing alongside Morro last year ? I can picture him but can't remember the name.
    Dorian dervite
    I actually always thought Dervite was better sitting in front of the defence.

    It was Leon Clarke I was thinking of (just looked up last seasons squad).

    It's crazy how much our squad changes year on year, it's pretty much only Chris Solly who gets stuck with us year after year !
    Think you mean cort, Clarke was a striker
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,037
    edited May 2015

    se9addick said:

    se9addick said:

    purdis said:

    wmcf123 said:

    purdis said:

    wmcf123 said:

    That was Peeters' biggest error - I.e getting rid of Morro

    Our defence wasn't our problem - it was as good as most.
    Scoring goals was the problem.
    Both Bikey and Ben-Haim lost their form; morrison could do everything that Johnson could and is considerably younger. Also, a leader
    Diasgree - look at last season - Morro was poor and our defence was poor.
    TBH did not lose form.
    Just my opinion, of course
    Morro wasn't poor last season. Our biggest struggle was our total inability to score goals. The only thing that stopped us being cut adrift was the fact our defence stood up enough for us to squeak out some wins off the few goals we scored
    Who was it playing alongside Morro last year ? I can picture him but can't remember the name.
    Dorian dervite
    I actually always thought Dervite was better sitting in front of the defence.

    It was Leon Clarke I was thinking of (just looked up last seasons squad).

    It's crazy how much our squad changes year on year, it's pretty much only Chris Solly who gets stuck with us year after year !
    Think you mean cort, Clarke was a striker
    Sorry you're right, Leon Court
  • purdis
    purdis Posts: 1,046

    purdis said:

    wmcf123 said:

    purdis said:

    wmcf123 said:

    That was Peeters' biggest error - I.e getting rid of Morro

    Our defence wasn't our problem - it was as good as most.
    Scoring goals was the problem.
    Both Bikey and Ben-Haim lost their form; morrison could do everything that Johnson could and is considerably younger. Also, a leader
    Diasgree - look at last season - Morro was poor and our defence was poor.
    TBH did not lose form.
    Just my opinion, of course
    Morro wasn't poor last season. Our biggest struggle was our total inability to score goals. The only thing that stopped us being cut adrift was the fact our defence stood up enough for us to squeak out some wins off the few goals we scored
    Point taken - just not a big fan of Morro - preferred Dervite and was sorry to see him go.

    TBH a different level to Morro, imho, and will never forget my fave ever CB - Jorge Costa.
    Had to pinch myself when I heard we'd got him on loan - he was a proper Centre Back.
    Understand that was Premiership and not fair to compare.
  • Beer7
    Beer7 Posts: 5
    Thanks @AFKABartram. I think TBH is like a firefighter starting fires to look like a hero when he turn just in time to put it out. His mistakes lead to heroic efforts from him.

    However, there was a basic coverage of CAFC in Israel every game and a positive piece at Haaretz after the HUFC game. Last week there was a big interview with GL, a bit OTT, in which he said many positive things about the club and England.
  • Blucher
    Blucher Posts: 4,135
    TBH has been very good for us. Perhaps his form dipped slightly in the second half of the season (albeit not on the Bikey scale) and he was no longer an automatic choice under Guy, although I suspect all parties knew there would be a parting of the ways at the end of this season. A quality player but no real surprise that he's moving on.

    We'll need some reinforcement in central defence, for sure.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Only my view, but I thought TBH was going to be crap but he isn't, and I think at his best he is a class player.
    We need a replacement, hopefully not called Roger Johnson who might yet stick around, but a player that has a real sense of authority.