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  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    The Red Robin said:

    Mings is a quality player and I'm surprised none of the bigger clubs have gone after him.

    You will find that they turned down big Money last season while they were in the promotion hunt. Will be amazed if he does'nt go to a Southampton, Stoke or a West Ham type of Premier club next season.
    Tyrone is 22 now and like Joe Gomez, glides over the ground,


  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,127
    soapboxsam said:

    The Red Robin said:

    Mings is a quality player and I'm surprised none of the bigger clubs have gone after him.

    You will find that they turned down big Money last season while they were in the promotion hunt. Will be amazed if he does'nt go to a Southampton, Stoke or a West Ham type of Premier club next season.
    Tyrone is 22 now and like Joe Gomez, glides over the ground,


    Heard Chelsea were after him in January.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    edited June 2015
    The Red Robin said:

    soapboxsam said:

    The Red Robin said:

    Mings is a quality player and I'm surprised none of the bigger clubs have gone after him.

    You will find that they turned down big Money last season while they were in the promotion hunt. Will be amazed if he does'nt go to a Southampton, Stoke or a West Ham type of Premier club next season.
    Tyrone is 22 now and like Joe Gomez, glides over the ground,


    Heard Chelsea were after him in January.
    I can believe that Red Robin,
    hope for his sake, He doesn't go there(football reasons not Money)
    Have just realized when he was 18 he was playing for Chippenham town !
    So a different route to Gomez.
    Was stunned to see both Moses and Chalobah are still Chelsea players.
    When Chelsea had a Christmas party with all their Loan players, they had to hire out the Albert Hall.

  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,127
    soapboxsam said:

    The Red Robin said:

    soapboxsam said:

    The Red Robin said:

    Mings is a quality player and I'm surprised none of the bigger clubs have gone after him.

    You will find that they turned down big Money last season while they were in the promotion hunt. Will be amazed if he does'nt go to a Southampton, Stoke or a West Ham type of Premier club next season.
    Tyrone is 22 now and like Joe Gomez, glides over the ground,


    Heard Chelsea were after him in January.
    I can believe that Red Robin,
    hope for his sake, He doesn't go there(football reasons not Money)
    Have just realized when he was 18 he was playing for Chippenham town !
    So a different route to Gomez.
    Was stunned to see both Moses and Chalobah are still Chelsea players.
    When Chelsea had a Christmas party with all their Loan players, they had to hire out the Albert Hall.

    Sound slick Moses will be off this summer. Decent enough player but he was never going to be good enough for Chelsea. They're trying to use him as a makeweight with Stoke to get Begovic. Chalobah is a decent midfielder and needs a Premier League loan move at the very least.
  • nth_london_addick
    nth_london_addick Posts: 35,919
    Chalobah has lost his way , showed so much promise but the Chelsea way of loan loan and loan again has taken its toll

    I do t understand why once a player has been on loan once potentially for a whole season if he has no immediate plans to be in the first team squad that there is not an fa rule to say he can't be loaned again and as such play him or let him go
  • Ben18
    Ben18 Posts: 1,638
    nth london addick said:

    Chalobah has lost his way , showed so much promise but the Chelsea way of loan loan and loan again has taken its toll

    I do t understand why once a player has been on loan once potentially for a whole season if he has no immediate plans to be in the first team squad that there is not an fa rule to say he can't be loaned again and as such play him or let him go

    Agree that something should be done about this. Here is a list of all of Chelsea's outgoing loans for last season. The stockpiling of players is ridiculous.

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    There should be a rule where you can only loan out x amount (2 or 3) of over 21s per season. Players not in your 25 man Premier League squad could then be released/sold by tribunal.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,765
    It's ridiculous. Expect Kasey Palmer to be one of those loaned out soon.
  • nth_london_addick
    nth_london_addick Posts: 35,919
    But they shouldn't be allowed to just keep loaning the same players out , it should be 1 loan of a full season or no more than two loans to different clubs in 1 season, the fact that a young footballer could play for three or four different clubs from 18-22 if he stayed at one club per season or 6-8 clubs if he had 6 month loans

    This is not designed to develop players, I fully support the need to evaluate a players gaps in his career by loaning them out to see what is needed

    But that is scandalous above and how can the fa just accept it
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,004
    Ben18 said:

    nth london addick said:

    Chalobah has lost his way , showed so much promise but the Chelsea way of loan loan and loan again has taken its toll

    I do t understand why once a player has been on loan once potentially for a whole season if he has no immediate plans to be in the first team squad that there is not an fa rule to say he can't be loaned again and as such play him or let him go

    Agree that something should be done about this. Here is a list of all of Chelsea's outgoing loans for last season. The stockpiling of players is ridiculous.

    image

    There should be a rule where you can only loan out x amount (2 or 3) of over 21s per season. Players not in your 25 man Premier League squad could then be released/sold by tribunal.
    Wow had no idea it was so bad, disgraceful
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,255
    nth london addick said:

    But they shouldn't be allowed to just keep loaning the same players out , it should be 1 loan of a full season or no more than two loans to different clubs in 1 season, the fact that a young footballer could play for three or four different clubs from 18-22 if he stayed at one club per season or 6-8 clubs if he had 6 month loans

    This is not designed to develop players, I fully support the need to evaluate a players gaps in his career by loaning them out to see what is needed

    But that is scandalous above and how can the fa just accept it

    Fully agree with this and Ben18's views. Use it or lose it basically - Even Mourinho came out and said there's not much point in their academy as none of them ever break through. They just go out and buy what they need like Zouma
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  • nth_london_addick
    nth_london_addick Posts: 35,919
    Is there any info on how many times those players have been loaned out in their careers so far
  • Ben18
    Ben18 Posts: 1,638
    edited June 2015
    nth london addick said:

    Is there any info on how many times those players have been loaned out in their careers so far

    come on mate, I've got to do some work today!
  • nth_london_addick
    nth_london_addick Posts: 35,919
    Same here but there's always someone who can help , who is being paid to work but can't be arsed
  • cafc4life
    cafc4life Posts: 4,632
    @snoopy4570 why the flag?
  • ValleyMick
    ValleyMick Posts: 473
    Ben18 said:

    nth london addick said:

    Is there any info on how many times those players have been loaned out in their careers so far

    come on mate, I've got to some work today!
    Selfish
  • PL54
    PL54 Posts: 10,757
    Why are they so fond of sending players to Middlesborough ?

    All but one of their English players went to English clubs.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,127
    PL54 said:

    Why are they so fond of sending players to Middlesborough ?

    All but one of their English players went to English clubs.

    Karanka was Mourinho's assistant at Real.
  • nth_london_addick
    nth_london_addick Posts: 35,919
    And reading is the Steve Clarke I would pressume
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,255
    Josh Mceachran is the best for me out that list. The wonder kid who was touted a few years ago as the next big thing. He's probably 28 now
  • rjh157
    rjh157 Posts: 10
    Middlesborough are their Affiliated club - Agreement to send players to help development/help borough and get first dibs on Middlesborough players.
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  • Starinnaddick
    Starinnaddick Posts: 4,345
    Ryan Bertrand looked like he could make it at Chelsea but he signed for Southampton after being on loan there.
  • Starinnaddick
    Starinnaddick Posts: 4,345
    Starinnaddick said:

    Ryan Bertrand looked like he could make it at Chelsea but he signed for Southampton after being on loan there.

    Just looked at Wiki and surprised to see he was at Gillingham .
    He was signed at 16 for £125000 which was set by a tribunal.
    Sounds familiar !!!
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,312
    rjh157 said:

    Middlesborough are their Affiliated club - Agreement to send players to help development/help borough and get first dibs on Middlesborough players.

    Surely with our academy producing quality youngsters year on year,'top teams' would be fighting eachother to be affliaited with us
  • MrLargo
    MrLargo Posts: 7,989
    rjh157 said:

    Middlesborough are their Affiliated club - Agreement to send players to help development/help borough and get first dibs on Middlesborough players.

    So a bit like our arrangement with Inter Milan Valencia Liverpool?!
  • MrLargo
    MrLargo Posts: 7,989
    They've loaned players to 15 different English clubs, including 4 Premier League sides. Quite apart from the waste of talent, I'm sure there's an issue with conflict of interests there.

    Let's say, using an extreme example, that on-loanVictor Moses bangs in a hattrick for Stoke to defeat Arsenal - Arsenal miss out on the title by a point to Chelsea. Is that fair, I think not.
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,171
    rjh157 said:

    Middlesborough are their Affiliated club - Agreement to send players to help development/help borough and get first dibs on Middlesborough players.

    Other teams must be devastated to miss out on this..
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,765
    Getting bored with the lack of decent rumours, let alone signings!!
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,223
    Callumcafc said:

    Getting bored with the lack of decent rumours, let alone signings!!

    do what most twitter accounts do - make some up
  • MrLargo
    MrLargo Posts: 7,989
    Henry Irving said:

    Callumcafc said:

    Getting bored with the lack of decent rumours, let alone signings!!

    do what most twitter accounts do - make some up
    Just seen Andy Delort buying 4 cushions, a box of scented candles and a non-stick frying pan at the new Sainsbury's on Woolwich Road. Darren Purse was pushing the trolley for him.
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