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  • lolwray
    lolwray Posts: 4,899
    must admit i thought there would be a lot more posts here today ...probably shows how accepting we have become of the current situation ,probably a very dangerous thing in itself
  • LouisMend
    LouisMend Posts: 5,446
    There's a different thread called Grenoble where there are a lot more comments
  • cafcnick1992
    cafcnick1992 Posts: 7,413
    Rizzo said:

    Quite where IS gets any sort of justification for attacking a mosque (you know, the church of your purported religion) on a Friday (the holy day of your purported religion) during Ramadan (the holy festival of your purported religion) is beyond me.

    Mind you, anything those frothing lunatics do is beyond reason so I'm not sure why I should be surprised.

    There's a pretty devout Muslim girl at work and she is unbelievably angry at IS and other such scumbags for perverting her religion.

    I imagine it is her that isn't following Islam correctly. The quar'an is an incredibly violent book.
  • colthe3rd
    colthe3rd Posts: 8,486
    cafcnick1992 said:

    Rizzo said:

    Quite where IS gets any sort of justification for attacking a mosque (you know, the church of your purported religion) on a Friday (the holy day of your purported religion) during Ramadan (the holy festival of your purported religion) is beyond me.

    Mind you, anything those frothing lunatics do is beyond reason so I'm not sure why I should be surprised.

    There's a pretty devout Muslim girl at work and she is unbelievably angry at IS and other such scumbags for perverting her religion.

    I imagine it is her that isn't following Islam correctly. The quar'an is an incredibly violent book.
    Read it a few times have you?
  • Leroy Ambrose
    Leroy Ambrose Posts: 14,436
    cafcnick1992 said:

    Rizzo said:

    Quite where IS gets any sort of justification for attacking a mosque (you know, the church of your purported religion) on a Friday (the holy day of your purported religion) during Ramadan (the holy festival of your purported religion) is beyond me.

    Mind you, anything those frothing lunatics do is beyond reason so I'm not sure why I should be surprised.

    There's a pretty devout Muslim girl at work and she is unbelievably angry at IS and other such scumbags for perverting her religion.

    I imagine it is her that isn't following Islam correctly. The quar'an is an incredibly violent book.
    Just like the bible, in fact
  • Red_in_SE8
    Red_in_SE8 Posts: 5,961
    edited June 2015
    colthe3rd said:

    cafcnick1992 said:

    Rizzo said:

    Quite where IS gets any sort of justification for attacking a mosque (you know, the church of your purported religion) on a Friday (the holy day of your purported religion) during Ramadan (the holy festival of your purported religion) is beyond me.

    Mind you, anything those frothing lunatics do is beyond reason so I'm not sure why I should be surprised.

    There's a pretty devout Muslim girl at work and she is unbelievably angry at IS and other such scumbags for perverting her religion.

    I imagine it is her that isn't following Islam correctly. The quar'an is an incredibly violent book.
    Read it a few times have you?
    I have not read Mein Kampf. And I never intend to. But I think I can express a perfectly valid opinion about it.
  • cafcnick1992
    cafcnick1992 Posts: 7,413
    I know, the Bible is a load of old trollop too.

    You don't need to be a muslim to know the Quar'an to establish it contains violent verses. Weak argument.
  • colthe3rd
    colthe3rd Posts: 8,486
    Red_in_SE8 said:

    colthe3rd said:

    cafcnick1992 said:

    Rizzo said:

    Quite where IS gets any sort of justification for attacking a mosque (you know, the church of your purported religion) on a Friday (the holy day of your purported religion) during Ramadan (the holy festival of your purported religion) is beyond me.

    Mind you, anything those frothing lunatics do is beyond reason so I'm not sure why I should be surprised.

    There's a pretty devout Muslim girl at work and she is unbelievably angry at IS and other such scumbags for perverting her religion.

    I imagine it is her that isn't following Islam correctly. The quar'an is an incredibly violent book.
    Read it a few times have you?
    I have not read Mein Kempt. And I never intend to. But I think I can express a perfectly valid opinion about it.
    Might help if you got the right book pal.
  • Red_in_SE8
    Red_in_SE8 Posts: 5,961
    colthe3rd said:

    Red_in_SE8 said:

    colthe3rd said:

    cafcnick1992 said:

    Rizzo said:

    Quite where IS gets any sort of justification for attacking a mosque (you know, the church of your purported religion) on a Friday (the holy day of your purported religion) during Ramadan (the holy festival of your purported religion) is beyond me.

    Mind you, anything those frothing lunatics do is beyond reason so I'm not sure why I should be surprised.

    There's a pretty devout Muslim girl at work and she is unbelievably angry at IS and other such scumbags for perverting her religion.

    I imagine it is her that isn't following Islam correctly. The quar'an is an incredibly violent book.
    Read it a few times have you?
    I have not read Mein Kempt. And I never intend to. But I think I can express a perfectly valid opinion about it.
    Might help if you got the right book pal.
    Ok I spelt it incorrectly. But you knew which book I was talking about. So how would it help. In a couple hundred years Nazism will be a religion, Mein Kampf will be the book and Adolf Hitler will be the Mohammad/Jesus Christ figure.
  • brogib
    brogib Posts: 2,128
    Red_in_SE8 said:

    colthe3rd said:

    Red_in_SE8 said:

    colthe3rd said:

    cafcnick1992 said:

    Rizzo said:

    Quite where IS gets any sort of justification for attacking a mosque (you know, the church of your purported religion) on a Friday (the holy day of your purported religion) during Ramadan (the holy festival of your purported religion) is beyond me.

    Mind you, anything those frothing lunatics do is beyond reason so I'm not sure why I should be surprised.

    There's a pretty devout Muslim girl at work and she is unbelievably angry at IS and other such scumbags for perverting her religion.

    I imagine it is her that isn't following Islam correctly. The quar'an is an incredibly violent book.
    Read it a few times have you?
    I have not read Mein Kempt. And I never intend to. But I think I can express a perfectly valid opinion about it.
    Might help if you got the right book pal.
    Ok I spelt it incorrectly. But you knew which book I was talking about. So how would it help. In a couple hundred years Nazism will be a religion, Mein Kampf will be the book and Adolf Hitler will be the Mohammad/Jesus Christ figure.
    Can't wait for the Lloyd-Webber/Rice musical!
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  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    edited June 2015
    Red_in_SE8 said:

    colthe3rd said:

    cafcnick1992 said:

    Rizzo said:

    Quite where IS gets any sort of justification for attacking a mosque (you know, the church of your purported religion) on a Friday (the holy day of your purported religion) during Ramadan (the holy festival of your purported religion) is beyond me.

    Mind you, anything those frothing lunatics do is beyond reason so I'm not sure why I should be surprised.

    There's a pretty devout Muslim girl at work and she is unbelievably angry at IS and other such scumbags for perverting her religion.

    I imagine it is her that isn't following Islam correctly. The quar'an is an incredibly violent book.
    Read it a few times have you?
    I have not read Mein Kampf. And I never intend to. But I think I can express a perfectly valid opinion about it.
    You should do - it's a fascinating read, just as Das Kapital is.

    “Obstacles do not exist to be surrendered to, but only to be broken.”

    "A spider conducts operations that resemble those of a weaver, and a bee puts to shame many an architect in the construction of her cells. But what distinguishes the worst architect from the best of bees is this, that the architect raises his structure in imagination before he erects it in reality."

    But which is which?
  • colthe3rd
    colthe3rd Posts: 8,486
    Red_in_SE8 said:

    colthe3rd said:

    Red_in_SE8 said:

    colthe3rd said:

    cafcnick1992 said:

    Rizzo said:

    Quite where IS gets any sort of justification for attacking a mosque (you know, the church of your purported religion) on a Friday (the holy day of your purported religion) during Ramadan (the holy festival of your purported religion) is beyond me.

    Mind you, anything those frothing lunatics do is beyond reason so I'm not sure why I should be surprised.

    There's a pretty devout Muslim girl at work and she is unbelievably angry at IS and other such scumbags for perverting her religion.

    I imagine it is her that isn't following Islam correctly. The quar'an is an incredibly violent book.
    Read it a few times have you?
    I have not read Mein Kempt. And I never intend to. But I think I can express a perfectly valid opinion about it.
    Might help if you got the right book pal.
    Ok I spelt it incorrectly. But you knew which book I was talking about. So how would it help. In a couple hundred years Nazism will be a religion, Mein Kampf will be the book and Adolf Hitler will be the Mohammad/Jesus Christ figure.
    Ok I was being pedantic but passages in isolation could be taken by any one of us and used as very intelligent and inspiring words. I think a while ago there were memes going about with photos of famous people like MLK and JFK with sentences from Mein Kampf and people were sharing and retweeting them worldwide. My point being that take any words out of context and you can make of them what you want.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,033
    cafcnick1992 said:

    Rizzo said:

    Quite where IS gets any sort of justification for attacking a mosque (you know, the church of your purported religion) on a Friday (the holy day of your purported religion) during Ramadan (the holy festival of your purported religion) is beyond me.

    Mind you, anything those frothing lunatics do is beyond reason so I'm not sure why I should be surprised.

    There's a pretty devout Muslim girl at work and she is unbelievably angry at IS and other such scumbags for perverting her religion.

    I imagine it is her that isn't following Islam correctly. The quar'an is an incredibly violent book.
    You're pretty vocal in your belief that the UK should leave the EU too, aren't you ?
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,989
    A plot to explode a pressure cooker bomb at a parade in south London yesterday was foiled, according to The Sun.

    http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/police-reassure-public-after-is-plot-foiled/ar-AAccdYS
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,989
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33297440
  • cafcnick1992
    cafcnick1992 Posts: 7,413
    se9addick said:

    cafcnick1992 said:

    Rizzo said:

    Quite where IS gets any sort of justification for attacking a mosque (you know, the church of your purported religion) on a Friday (the holy day of your purported religion) during Ramadan (the holy festival of your purported religion) is beyond me.

    Mind you, anything those frothing lunatics do is beyond reason so I'm not sure why I should be surprised.

    There's a pretty devout Muslim girl at work and she is unbelievably angry at IS and other such scumbags for perverting her religion.

    I imagine it is her that isn't following Islam correctly. The quar'an is an incredibly violent book.
    You're pretty vocal in your belief that the UK should leave the EU too, aren't you ?
    I am.
  • Salad
    Salad Posts: 10,189
    cafcnick1992 said:

    . The quar'an is an incredibly violent book.

    In the Bible, with the world population of 4, Cain kills his brother Able, that's a 25% homicide rate, so a pretty violent start for the Bible and it continues in the same vein. God decides men are sinful, and commits genocide by flooding the earth. He also teaches Noah the code of the vendetta, " Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed."

    The 10 Commandments outlaw engraved images and the coveting of livestock but give a pass to slavery, rape, torture, mutiliation and genocide of neighbouring tribes, all common acts in the bible. For example, on the instructions of God, Moses & his brother Aaron kill 3,000 fellow Israelites for worshipping a statue of a calf. When Aaron uses the wrong incense in the slaughter of many animals (that must be sacrificed to God), God burns Aaron and his sons to death.

    When the Israelites meet the Midianites, God orders them to kill all the males, burn the city, plunder the livestock. However, Moses is furious they spared the women and children and orders them all to be killed, except "all the women children, that have not known man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves" i.e. young sex slaves to raped at their pleasure. Amongst other enemies, the genocide has to be total, "thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth. But thou shall utterly destroy them ... as the Lord thy God has commanded thee".

    And it goes on and on an on.
  • IA
    IA Posts: 6,103
    Can we stop comparing violence in these two books now? Nick (the person who mentioned the violence in the Qu'uran) also thinks the Bible is violent and made that point on another thread too.

    We do have to accept that violent extremism is not unique to one culture, race or religion, but the tit-for-tat stuff doesn't help.
  • bigstemarra
    bigstemarra Posts: 5,098
    Maybe so, but the vast, vast majority of violent extremism is committed by the followers of one particular faith. To try and argue otherwise is laughable.
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    bigstemarra said:

    Maybe so, but the vast, vast majority of violent extremism is committed by the followers of one particular faith. To try and argue otherwise is laughable.

    Utter fucking bullshit. The vast majority of violent extremism is carried out by western goverments who invade countries and slaughter vast numbers of civilians - far more than any other agency. But I guess you werent including the US or UK govrrnments.
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  • brogib
    brogib Posts: 2,128
    Wheresmeticket? said:

    bigstemarra said:

    Maybe so, but the vast, vast majority of violent extremism is committed by the followers of one particular faith. To try and argue otherwise is laughable.

    Utter fucking bullshit = The vast majority of violent extremism is carried out by western goverments who invade countries and slaughter vast numbers of civilians - far more than any other agency. But I guess you werent including the US or UK govrrnments.
  • bigstemarra
    bigstemarra Posts: 5,098
    Ok, I'll bite.

    The vast majority of muslims killed in the aftermath of Iraq were killed by other muslims in bomb attacks not by 'Western governments'. Day after day of indiscriminate, large scale slaughter that deliberately targeted civilians and killed them in sickeningly huge numbers. Now I know that that many civilians were regrettably killed in military operations linked to the allied invasion, but at least they weren't trying to kill them - not least because it would be all over the news in short order and giving credence to their political opponents.

    The scum deliberately targeting civilians are like any other person and have responsibility for their own actions, despite some folk on here arguing that they exist in some kind of child-like state where the US invading Iraq 10 years ago somehow excuses ISIS for raping and murdering women and kids.

    So, given all the well publicised killing going on in the name of the religion of peace in the past few weeks/months - where are all the killings taking place by western governments that outweigh them in number? You can start with a list of wars currently being prosecuted by western governments that involve the invasion of sovereign countries and the slaughter of vast numbers of their civilians.

    I await your answer with interest - if you are going to accuse me of talking 'uttter fucking bullshit', it should be a simple matter of proving me wrong with concrete examples.

    Over to you.
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    Wheresmeticket? said:

    bigstemarra said:

    Maybe so, but the vast, vast majority of violent extremism is committed by the followers of one particular faith. To try and argue otherwise is laughable.

    Utter fucking bullshit. The vast majority of violent extremism is carried out by western goverments who invade countries and slaughter vast numbers of civilians - far more than any other agency. But I guess you werent including the US or UK govrrnments.
    Those Lib/Dem suicide bombers are right bastards.

  • Greenie Junior
    Greenie Junior Posts: 3,881
    se9addick said:

    cafcnick1992 said:

    Rizzo said:

    Quite where IS gets any sort of justification for attacking a mosque (you know, the church of your purported religion) on a Friday (the holy day of your purported religion) during Ramadan (the holy festival of your purported religion) is beyond me.

    Mind you, anything those frothing lunatics do is beyond reason so I'm not sure why I should be surprised.

    There's a pretty devout Muslim girl at work and she is unbelievably angry at IS and other such scumbags for perverting her religion.

    I imagine it is her that isn't following Islam correctly. The quar'an is an incredibly violent book.
    You're pretty vocal in your belief that the UK should leave the EU too, aren't you ?
    I am too, what point are you trying to make
  • nth_london_addick
    nth_london_addick Posts: 35,919
    You know what he/she is trying to do , don't lower yourselves to fall for the baited hook pal ignore and forget
  • AdTheAddicK
    AdTheAddicK Posts: 3,379
    Has anyone been following #findsuedavey on twitter? Absolute tragedy.. RIP Sue
  • Greenie Junior
    Greenie Junior Posts: 3,881
    nth london addick said:

    You know what he/she is trying to do , don't lower yourselves to fall for the baited hook pal ignore and forget

    Trying not to mate! Haha
    AdTheAddicK said:

    Has anyone been following #findsuedavey on twitter? Absolute tragedy.. RIP Sue

    Just seen it. Absolutely heart breaking. RIP Sue
  • nth_london_addick
    nth_london_addick Posts: 35,919
    Rip Sue Davey

    Gutted for their candle of hope to have gone out tonight ,.

    It really is quite unbelievable the actions of the latest terror attack, how aimed to hurt those who have no influence or impact on the issues that are meant to cause this

    Filth absolute filth
  • Greenie Junior
    Greenie Junior Posts: 3,881
    Scott Chalkley also confirmed to be one of the dead too
  • Curb_It
    Curb_It Posts: 21,219
    Oh my god.. You lot really??

    Still trying to score points over a tragedy.

    May all the victims rest in peace.

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