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Reporter and Cameraman Shot Dead On-Air

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  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,446
    Riviera said:

    Horrific incident but do not see why it has to be our lead news story over here.

    What else would you go with? Corbyn wants all female carriages? Not exactly a big seller...
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,034
    LuckyReds said:

    Another reason never to buy The Sun again...



    Words fail me why anyone would think that's acceptable.
    The "watch the chilling video..." but in the bottom left hand corner is horrible too
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,783
    edited August 2015
    Dazzler21 said:

    What I saw was horrible, but luckily not graphic.

    I don't understand America a lot of the time.

    What is the NRA of America going to say?

    That the two victims should have been armed or have had an armed guard. In the Looking Glass world of the NRA, the answer to gun crime is always more guns.
  • newyorkaddick
    newyorkaddick Posts: 3,052
    Riviera said:

    Horrific incident but do not see why it has to be our lead news story over here.

    Was thinking just the same - I wonder how much coverage say the Shoreham crash garnered in the US?
  • Halix
    Halix Posts: 2,237

    Every way you turn this world of ours is fucked up!

    And seems to be getting worse too.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,034

    Riviera said:

    Horrific incident but do not see why it has to be our lead news story over here.

    Was thinking just the same - I wonder how much coverage say the Shoreham crash garnered in the US?
    I'm glad that our news coverage carries important stories from around the world, I'm sure if this terrible incident had happened in France/Germany etc it would still be big news here.
  • newyorkaddick
    newyorkaddick Posts: 3,052
    se9addick said:

    Riviera said:

    Horrific incident but do not see why it has to be our lead news story over here.

    Was thinking just the same - I wonder how much coverage say the Shoreham crash garnered in the US?
    I'm glad that our news coverage carries important stories from around the world, I'm sure if this terrible incident had happened in France/Germany etc it would still be big news here.
    Agree but given that the US has on average 40 murders per day mainly from gun crime, I'm not sure why the presence of a camera on a small-time local TV station renders these two front page global news.

    Either way terrible for the victims and their families of course.
  • IA
    IA Posts: 6,103

    se9addick said:

    Riviera said:

    Horrific incident but do not see why it has to be our lead news story over here.

    Was thinking just the same - I wonder how much coverage say the Shoreham crash garnered in the US?
    I'm glad that our news coverage carries important stories from around the world, I'm sure if this terrible incident had happened in France/Germany etc it would still be big news here.
    Agree but given that the US has on average 40 murders per day mainly from gun crime, I'm not sure why the presence of a camera on a small-time local TV station renders these two front page global news.

    Either way terrible for the victims and their families of course.
    Journalists were killed. Journalists write the news stories. Journalists decide what goes on the front page.
  • Greenie
    Greenie Posts: 9,172

    Riviera said:

    Horrific incident but do not see why it has to be our lead news story over here.

    Was thinking just the same - I wonder how much coverage say the Shoreham crash garnered in the US?
    Because we are another American state thats why, we blindly follow them to war and we even use so much of their terminology.....Team GB instead of the GB Team, can I get instead of may I have....etc ....etc...
  • newyorkaddick
    newyorkaddick Posts: 3,052
    Greenie said:

    Riviera said:

    Horrific incident but do not see why it has to be our lead news story over here.

    Was thinking just the same - I wonder how much coverage say the Shoreham crash garnered in the US?
    Because we are another American state thats why, we blindly follow them to war and we even use so much of their terminology.....Team GB instead of the GB Team, can I get instead of may I have....etc ....etc...
    Awesome analogy.
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  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    That second video is harrowing. It's even more sickening from first person pov.
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,843
    Greenie said:

    Riviera said:

    Horrific incident but do not see why it has to be our lead news story over here.

    Was thinking just the same - I wonder how much coverage say the Shoreham crash garnered in the US?
    Because we are another American state thats why, we blindly follow them to war and we even use so much of their terminology.....Team GB instead of the GB Team, can I get instead of may I have....etc ....etc...
    I hate Americanisms infiltrating our culture but not sure us being the 51st state of America is the reason why American news is covered here whereas very little non-American news is covered over there. It's more to do with the fact that we, unlike America, recognise there is actually a world outside our borders.
  • Riviera
    Riviera Posts: 8,167
    Very little American news is covered over there! Local news stations broadcast 98% local news, 1.9% national news and 0.1% international news.
  • Greenie
    Greenie Posts: 9,172
    bobmunro said:

    Greenie said:

    Riviera said:

    Horrific incident but do not see why it has to be our lead news story over here.

    Was thinking just the same - I wonder how much coverage say the Shoreham crash garnered in the US?
    Because we are another American state thats why, we blindly follow them to war and we even use so much of their terminology.....Team GB instead of the GB Team, can I get instead of may I have....etc ....etc...
    I hate Americanisms infiltrating our culture but not sure us being the 51st state of America is the reason why American news is covered here whereas very little non-American news is covered over there. It's more to do with the fact that we, unlike America, recognise there is actually a world outside our borders.
    Yep and this ^^
  • lolwray
    lolwray Posts: 4,900
    i am not sure what i am more outraged by ? the crime itself,american gun laws,having to see it (i find this kind of intrusiveness obscene) or the media for circulating it
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    That sun page is appalling. The biggest spreader of fear is Rupert Murdoch and his toilet papers and news outlets. Not terrorists or gun men, but a grumpy old Australian man who runs his enterprise like the Mafia.

    Sooner he kicks the bucket the better in all honesty, and I know that's a particularly harsh thing to say, but fuck that guy.
  • Redvalleyeast
    Redvalleyeast Posts: 4,689
    Its quite sickening that newspapers are showing the last,few terrifying seconds of a young womans life and plastering it all over the front pages. Sad proof of some peoples thirst to see everything,even murder, played out on social media :(
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,348
    if idiots like the subject of the attached report go relatively unpunished for a total failure to make sure that lethal weapons are always stored in a secure place, we could start having more shootings in the UK

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-34065350
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    Which plays into the narrative that the world is getting more dangerous and more violent. When it isn't. It's getting safer and safer.
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,348
    Riviera said:

    Horrific incident but do not see why it has to be our lead news story over here.

    I agree .. 24/7 blanket 'news' coverage on scores of radio and TV stations means that the sensational and the irrelevant to the UK are all too often broadcast every half hour as vital pieces of 'news'.

    .. yes, a shocking incident but nothing too unique so far as the USA is concerned .. such dreadful but essentially non unique incidents should be reported only in passing .. I know that similar incidents are commonplace throughout, for example, central and South America as well as the USA .. NOT a UK issue or problem ..
    as I wrote on here recently, the BBC newsrooms are getting far too 'Red Top' and should be above sensationalist reporting
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  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,242
    But its their cons-tuh-too-shun-arl right to bear arms, the amendment says so.....

    Bowling for columbine tells you all you need to know.

    The worse thing is the most shocking part is that it was filmed. Not that some handpump killed two former colleagues. This nonsense happens every day multiple times in that country

    Feel incredibly sad for the families of the victims having this splashed all over the worlds media
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729

    Riviera said:

    Horrific incident but do not see why it has to be our lead news story over here.

    I agree .. 24/7 blanket 'news' coverage on scores of radio and TV stations means that the sensational and the irrelevant to the UK are all too often broadcast every half hour as vital pieces of 'news'.

    .. yes, a shocking incident but nothing too unique so far as the USA is concerned .. such dreadful but essentially non unique incidents should be reported only in passing .. I know that similar incidents are commonplace throughout, for example, central and South America as well as the USA .. NOT a UK issue or problem ..
    as I wrote on here recently, the BBC newsrooms are getting far too 'Red Top' and should be above sensationalist reporting
    24 hour news is probably the worst thing to have come out of the Internet age.
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,242
    24 news was prevalent way before the internet or social media took hold. They have just taken this instant access news to another level
  • Rossman92
    Rossman92 Posts: 3,650
    Just so everyone knows, the Shoreham air disaster received plenty of news coverage here
  • Rossman92
    Rossman92 Posts: 3,650
    edited August 2015
    And for those of you who don't think this should be news over there and it doesn't concern you. I'm sorry that I'm currently quite frightened to be living in this country and when something this appalling happens, I thought you all would like to know. Only the devil could ask someone to do something like this and even though this happened 800 miles from me, I am still mortified that my country houses people like this and acts like this are being committed. if something like this happened on the UK, I would want to know and I'm sure everyone there would be extremely concerned. And 1 or 2 comments are getting close to slagging America off. I share these 50 states with some right c**** here to put it extremely lightly, but it's these bastards that give us our image, I'm sorry they have ruined it for the rest of us
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    Rossman92 said:

    And for those of you who don't think this should be news over there and it doesn't concern you. I'm sorry that I'm currently quite frightened to be living in this country and when something this appalling happens, I thought you all would like to know. Only the devil could ask someone to do something like this and even though this happened 800 miles from me, I am still mortified that my country houses people like this and acts like this are being committed. if something like this happened on the UK, I would want to know and I'm sure everyone there would be extremely concerned. And some comments are getting close to slagging America off. I share these 50 states with some right c**** here to put it extremely lightly, but it's these bastards that give us our image, I'm sorry they have ruined it for the rest of us

    I don't want to get too tin foiled hatty but fear just makes you want to buy more fear. That's what Murdoch and the news agencies trade off these days. It's also probably why people are doing those crazy stuff. Just because they have been made to feel scared. The USA is a great country but for too long has papered over the deep cracks with staunch patriotism. There are big problems in that country and they need to be addressed. Gun control and racism namely, two things that have caused the major problems currently facing the country internally.
  • Rossman92
    Rossman92 Posts: 3,650
    edited August 2015
    Our brilliant 2nd amendment has ensured that gun control will not be enforced. If we drafted a new amendment repealing the 2nd amendment, we'd break into the second civil war. Racism is not as big a problem as it once was. Yes I still see it but not as much as I used to. I'm very aware that my country is fucked up beyond repair, and I am at the point of picking up and leaving. But being only 18 and heading off to university, that's easier said than done
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    Rossman92 said:

    Our brilliant 2nd amendment has ensured that gun control will not be enforced. If we drafted a new amendment repealing the 2nd amendment, we'd break into the second civil war. Racism is not as big a problem as it once was. Yes I still see it but not as much as I used to. I'm very aware that my country is fucked up beyond repair, and I am at the point of picking up and leaving. But being only 18 and heading off to university, that's easier said than done

    Racism is still rife. It's more covert than it was but still rife. I drove through communities that were dirt poor, and, surprise suprise, almost exclusively black. If that doesn't sound alarm bells to institutional racism then what does?

    May I also ask, honestly out of interest, why you think the 2nd amendment is wonderful?

    As for a civil war, I very much doubt it. Maybe some pissed off tweets and an assassination or two but I don't think there would be the infrastructure or willpower for pro guns people to mount any kind of effective resistance to the federal government.
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,843
    Rossman92 said:

    Our brilliant 2nd amendment has ensured that gun control will not be enforced. If we drafted a new amendment repealing the 2nd amendment, we'd break into the second civil war. Racism is not as big a problem as it once was. Yes I still see it but not as much as I used to. I'm very aware that my country is fucked up beyond repair, and I am at the point of picking up and leaving. But being only 18 and heading off to university, that's easier said than done

    Once you graduate they'll always be a warm welcome when you relocate to south London!
  • Rossman92
    Rossman92 Posts: 3,650

    Rossman92 said:

    Our brilliant 2nd amendment has ensured that gun control will not be enforced. If we drafted a new amendment repealing the 2nd amendment, we'd break into the second civil war. Racism is not as big a problem as it once was. Yes I still see it but not as much as I used to. I'm very aware that my country is fucked up beyond repair, and I am at the point of picking up and leaving. But being only 18 and heading off to university, that's easier said than done

    Racism is still rife. It's more covert than it was but still rife. I drove through communities that were dirt poor, and, surprise suprise, almost exclusively black. If that doesn't sound alarm bells to institutional racism then what does?

    May I also ask, honestly out of interest, why you think the 2nd amendment is wonderful?

    As for a civil war, I very much doubt it. Maybe some pissed off tweets and an assassination or two but I don't think there would be the infrastructure or willpower for pro guns people to mount any kind of effective resistance to the federal government.
    I'm shocked you couldn't tell I was being sarcastic about the 2nd amendment. As for the war, a couple years ago Texas tried getting a petition together to secede from the union and become their own country. Anything is possible